I'm thinking of going Darklore because I'm brash and bold and impatient and cocky

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Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:38:52 2011 No.8248984 [Reply] [Original]

I'm thinking of going Darklore because I'm brash and bold and impatient and cocky

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:40:20 2011 No.8248993 Iri is the cutest but her ability sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:40:51 2011 No.8248997 And what the FUCK is this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:41:20 2011 No.8249001 >>8248993 Oh, what's wrong with it? I would think that damaging enemies directly would be crazy awesome and stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:43:22 2011 No.8249011 Can someone explain this game to me in terms of the only card game I've ever played, Yu-Gi-Oh! back when it was the original series and there weren't fusion summons and stuff

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:46:51 2011 No.8249026

>>8249011
If you're going in with that mindset, you'll never understand much less like it. It's not a game you play, so to say, it's a game you just ogle at then get tired of. If that appeals to you, then welcome aboard. There's no gameplay value in this for you otherwise.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:47:21 2011 No.8249036

>>8249011
1 buy a deck, I think you get one for free. Start a game, every card has a size value at the top right. You can have a combined total of 10 on the board. Put down your cards until you get as close to 10 as possible, then hit the read button.

Everything else is RNG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:47:50 2011 No.8249035 >>8249026 Oh. That's silly. I'm going to play Tribes instead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 01:51:21 2011 No.8249047 >>8248997 Sword Girls Online. A shitty card game with girls plastered all over the cards. Its the flavor the month MMO. /jp/ is playing it so its shit.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat Dec 17 02:01:20 2011 No.8249087

>>start playing
>>look at the deck I want to create
>>"you need 30 cards to create this one rare card, and then you need 15 of those rare cards so you can create a FINAL CARD"

NOPE.jpg

Worth playing for a few hours to look at all the cute girl pictures though.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sat Dec 17 02:04:50 2011 No.8249100 I really love card games and would love to play jpers but this is closed beta. When is open beta starting?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 02:07:20 2011 No.8249116 >>8249100 just type in SWORD1337 when it asks you for a key, also don't bother game is shit

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 02:10:50 2011 No.8249130 That darklore picture is nice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 02:18:20 2011 No.8249161 It has quite a bit of depth, if you know how to invest time into it. It takes a while to understand the game though. Sure the randomness can stuff you up, but it is random, so it's the same for the other guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 02:24:50 2011 No.8249199 >>8249161 >depth You are trying way to hard swordgirls devs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:00:25 2011 No.8249866 So, this is the new Sword Girls thread? Ok. Anyone play with Mass Recall in a non Academy deck? How useful is it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:06:55 2011 No.8249880 Splendid monogatari amigo. So is there an actual story behind these girls ? If it's a no, forget I ever asked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:07:25 2011 No.8249881 >>8249866 Mini-Balance. Good for getting raped by Luna Flina. Use if you really hate Layna, Senpai Maid and the like.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:13:55 2011 No.8249894

Darklore is absolutely awful in the CBT. There is basically no combo besides PTB, and rites.

Most people rite with level 2s and 1s, but I've seen a few creative ones.PTB has very limited targets. Both are easy to counter.

My Darklore deck is pretty well made, but it will fail at times when playing less well made Crux decks.

tl;dr - don't pick Darklore

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:15:56 2011 No.8249897 >>8249894 Fuck darklore. The only way to use it is combine your deck with crux followers with size 1.

>>	Necrobrotent Sat Dec 17 05:24:26 2011 No.8249916 I picked crux because she had the largest breast. I don't regret this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:25:56 2011 No.8249921 File: 31 KB, 320x480, cute witch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh god dammit all to hell, where's the "Refusal to fight due to enemy being too adorable" button?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:27:28 2011 No.8249929 Take a guess, what percentage of the SG player base is /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:29:26 2011 No.8249938 What a surprise the vampires are the favorite among the noobs. Maids are clearly superior but their tactics are harder to learn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:32:27 2011 No.8249947 can someone explain the gameplay a bit more? Does the game literally just do everything for you while you look at pretty girls?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:33:56 2011 No.8249950 >>8249947 Not everything, you actually have to pick what cards you put on the table!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:34:57 2011 No.8249952 File: 54 KB, 640x480, Facepalm Lina.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >My face when Final Fantasy mini games have more depth than this game does.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:36:26 2011 No.8249959 >>8249950 Is that it? You can't even order them or give them any kind of priority? You just throw a handful of cards on the table and they all activate at random? . . . What?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:36:26 2011 No.8249960 >>8249916 Make a Seeker deck, Lucia and Lydia are pretty mean cards.

>>	Necrobrotent Sat Dec 17 05:38:27 2011 No.8249966 >>8249960 I'm good at tcg's I'm terrible at grinding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:38:56 2011 No.8249967 >>8249959 Pretty lame, I know. Finally someone makes an game and they forget to put in the gameplay. Ohh well, one more disappointment added to the heap. Im getting pretty used to disappointing online games.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 05:51:26 2011 No.8250023 >>8249966 Ah, yes yes. Myself, I never went through all the cards. I learned the hard way when people played them against me. I point out only to help know what's available.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:16:56 2011 No.8250144 >>8249967 Just send your complain to them. That's what i do when i realize the gameplay was so shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:25:56 2011 No.8250181 >>8250144 Its about to go in to open beta. There is no way the core game mechanics are going to change at this point. Its just a quick buck to them. They are not interested in the long run.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:43:26 2011 No.8250222

Obligatory new thread pasta.

http://www.swordgirlsonline.com/

2nd closed beta is running from December 7th to December 19th.

Wiki: http://swordgirls.wikia.com/wiki/Sword_Girls_Wiki
Official guide: http://www.swordgirlsonline.com/game-info/game-guide/
Spreadsheet/IRC: http://www.swordgirlsonline.com/forum/showthread.php?150-Useful-Resources-created-by-the-Sword-Girls
-Community!

Don't worry about making a mistake in picking your starting faction. You get 3000 tokens at the start + 500/day more as a daily bonus, so you can buy starting decks for other factions right away (SHOP > DECKS; they cost 500 tokens each).

If you grind up 100 wins (PvE or PvP, all wins count) you get to keep that Blade Tutor Grace Neutral promo card even after the closed beta wipe.
(US citizens only) If you grind up 250 wins (PvE or PvP, all wins count) you get a chance to win an ASUS tablet.

The event over at Facebook was a success so after the maintenance on Dec 14/Dec 15 we are getting 50 of every crafting material (all ores, all accessories, plus hearts and ruins).

http://www.swordgirlsonline.com/forum/showthread.php?185-Censorship-already
If you are against artwork censorship and want your voice to be heard by developers/publishers you better post in this thread.

Take it easy and have fun with your cooking keyons, futanari maids, vocaloid knights, and censored vampires.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:46:57 2011 No.8250239 >>8250181 But these cards are so fucking idiot. Why they attack card with high def when you just need to beat another card to win? Really, i don't even know which one to blame anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:47:57 2011 No.8250242 Ahaha, oh wow

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 06:49:56 2011 No.8250253 >>8250239 Yeah I dont get it either. There was this one time the NPC had a Knight with 1 health and about 14 hit power which was one shotting half my minions. My minions though would attack every damn creature but that one. Its really dumb.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:01:56 2011 No.8250300

>>8250253
It's all about the RNG. In actuality, you should try to remember the times you managed pull off a similar kind of bullshittery and pissed someone else off. That's what I do at least. Then again, I try to keep my strategy less reliant on big gambles, so I don't get those proving-ground-type scenarios a lot.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:13:58 2011 No.8250351

>If you grind up 100 wins (PvE or PvP, all wins count) you get to keep that Blade Tutor Grace Neutral promo card even after the closed beta wipe.
If it really worth it though? Grace doesn't seem that great when you think about it, and since it's neutral it's not affected by faction-specific buffs either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:14:27 2011 No.8250357 File: 261 KB, 304x476, 013.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Academy has maids Darklore has vampires

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:16:27 2011 No.8250362 >>8250351 Meh. Before I knew it'd I'd already passed that mark 3 times. Can't get your fucking hands on the good stuff without a ton of grinding. Haah... Perhaps the same could be said of all MMOs...

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:16:57 2011 No.8250364

Well, its not like I expected Cute girls doing Gatherings. I suppose they had to dumb this thing down for kids and the AI. Still, could have at least had some strategy in it, like picking your targets and more than one phase per round. I rather liked casting phases im MTG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:18:57 2011 No.8250368 File: 73 KB, 322x480, luthica.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8250351 Yeah, I really hoped they let us keep the transformed character cards ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:19:57 2011 No.8250370 >>8250364 Unfortunately, if you do that, the naive kids laden with their parents' money can't hope to get a good enough edge with someone like an average /jp/ browser.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:22:58 2011 No.8250382

>>8250370
Thats true, mastering the casting phases was the true strength of a good MTG player but with this game, I dont think that would have been a huge issue. I guess a guy with a starter deck could still woop a 14 year olds add that plays 8 hours a day.

Yeah I take that back, this game is being pushed as an MMO and not a card game and with an MMO He who grinds most, Wins.

Fucking amazing how they managed to take everything that sucks about mmos and bring it to a card game. How is /tg/ taking this game?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:28:57 2011 No.8250398 File: 35 KB, 320x479, CruxGirl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8250357 Crux is better. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:29:58 2011 No.8250400 File: 406 KB, 1030x793, Screenshot (2011-12-15 at 04.24.32).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8250362 I already have a grindfest to play.

>>	Necrobrotent Sat Dec 17 07:33:57 2011 No.8250412 >>8250400 Everyone on /jp/ has at least one mmo vice, Mine is altiel.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 07:44:27 2011 No.8250447

>>8250412
I figure that much.

I just kind of wish I knew more people that played Maple Story. It's been with me for many years, but... I get kind of lonely sometimes.

I make up for my antisocialness in real life by being a really social gamer and MMO player. So far I just haven't found many people willing to play games with me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 08:03:58 2011 No.8250545 Why do half the posts in this thread seem to be the same person talking to himself?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 08:05:58 2011 No.8250552 >>8250545 Because the name by default is Anonymous. You have to set the name manually. Welcome to the Web, new friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 08:10:58 2011 No.8250571 >>8250545 Oh, hello visitor. Welcome to /jp/. Right now there are two posters here. Me and you. Why don't we take a stroll to the VN thread?

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 08:58:29 2011 No.8250784

Played my first PVP battle against a regular Cilia, thought it would be an easy win, since he didn't play any rare cards, and then BAM! - windmill slams Senpai Maid and Undertaker on the table. I wish I could save a replay to see if I could play it smarter than I did (RNG aside, of course).

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 09:12:31 2011 No.8250845

>>8250784
As a general tip, matchmaker always matches you to the people with a close deck point. No one too low no one too high. That's why, if he's playing cards that seem too common, you best keep on watch for a heavy comeback late game, so you want to win fast with heavy hitting, high size cards. If he's playing all the best cards at once, you just need to weather the storm with sacrificial 1s or 2s with high def, if possible and a lot of life restores. And then, when he's burned out, you can use your own best cards to steal the win. Of course that means if you drew your best cards too early, you can use a shuffle or two to "reserve" them.

And you know what, that's probably the most strategy you'll every get out of this game. Deciding which cards to play when.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 10:34:02 2011 No.8251042

>>8250845
>As a general tip, matchmaker always matches you to the people with a close deck point. No one too low no one too high.
Well, right before that, the matchmaker got me paired with an NPC Trickster, so I figured that there are not that many people bothering with the queue. Turns out I was wrong, I guess.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 13:46:35 2011 No.8251619

>>8250382
I have no idea what you are talking about. This game is like most other CCG's, stuff like Magic, Star Wars, L5R, Yu-gi-oh, etc. If you have the rare cards, your deck is better.

Since this is in the form of online CCG, there has to be something that separates rares from commons, so you have the grinding or maybe buying for packs, like what CCGs do.

So far, as I can tell, the game has pretty good mechanic. The randomness makes it harder to win even if you have a better constructed deck. But again, like CCGs, if your deck is better constructed and you know what you are doing, your odds of winning is higher, even if there is more randomness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 13:49:38 2011 No.8251629 >>8250368 I agree, in the end Grace becomes mediocre at best, especially when you start getting higher end cards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 13:53:37 2011 No.8251642 What does Blue Envoy do?

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:01:12 2011 No.8252209

I hate how every match I go into the random number generator hates me.

Like having to shuffle AWAY good cards because I can't place them and it's use it or lose it and the enemy throws down Undertacker and Full Moon Luna Flina and oh ... I have cards that would screw those but damn, they're now at the bottom of my deck.

Why does this game hate me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:16:13 2011 No.8252271 File: 19 KB, 415x115, wonderful.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252209 Thanks RNG, thanks. Once again, thanks. God this sucks. This happens to everyone yes?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:20:12 2011 No.8252281 >>8252209 Stop blaming stuff on a RNG

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:23:13 2011 No.8252295 >>8252271 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:27:42 2011 No.8252306 >>8252271 This means you have too many spells and not enough characters. And it happens to me, but I am Academy, so I can just throw down all my spells and still kill all the enemy cards.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:31:43 2011 No.8252327 >>8252306 I had to check my deck but I have 9 spell cards and 21 followers. What's a good balance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:33:12 2011 No.8252333 >>8252327 Excuse me, 9 spells and 20 followers. I guess the 30th is my character card?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:34:12 2011 No.8252340 >>8252333 God I'm dumb >>8252327 That was right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:41:42 2011 No.8252371 >>8252327 Depends on what you're doing. If you only have 9, though, then yeah you are pretty unlucky.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:42:42 2011 No.8252377 File: 19 KB, 409x114, wonderful again.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252371 >Unlucky this is a universal joke on me then I guess.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:47:14 2011 No.8252394 If you can spell swap that Insomniac card and then it's attacked by the swapped card first, it's pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 16:53:46 2011 No.8252424 >>8252377 Yep. I have 19 spells and that only occasionally happens. Or else I have dudes on the field in which case it's not even a problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 17:20:15 2011 No.8252562 File: 52 KB, 558x423, 1289173871.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Strange, this girl looks like a guy It must be my imagination

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 17:55:17 2011 No.8252687 >>8252562 How did you get to see that guy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:01:17 2011 No.8252706 >>8252687 At the frontier ruins

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:02:17 2011 No.8252713
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i have a ~290 pt darklore rites based deck with swimsuit iri, i steamroll pretty much everyone i go against except crux decks, they just rape me.

open beta, i'm playing crux.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:09:46 2011 No.8252740 >>8252713 350pt, swimwear luthica, Crux here let's battle anon-kun

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:11:46 2011 No.8252747 File: 22 KB, 183x183, 1322153460665.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252740 you are my worst nightmare

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:12:16 2011 No.8252754 anyone who has followers that are not in the same faction as their character should get shot in the head

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:16:46 2011 No.8252765 >>8252754 Sense of Belonging anon-kun

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:23:16 2011 No.8252793 File: 145 KB, 320x480, Flina's_Command.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252562 Perfectly flat man-body women aren't unheard of

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:25:47 2011 No.8252797 File: 152 KB, 320x480, 300320L.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252765 You don't get it! Seeing a Undertaker fighting with Crux knights against darklore is unbelievable and ruins the story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:26:47 2011 No.8252801 >>8252754 Fuck you, I like using Stigma Flint and sacrificing crux followers alongside my disposable maids. (what is it with academy and killing the shit out of their followers and cards anyway?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:27:16 2011 No.8252804 >>8252713 I agree, Crux is superior. See >>8250398

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:28:17 2011 No.8252807 >>8252797 That navel and sideways hat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:30:47 2011 No.8252814 Vito

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 18:42:17 2011 No.8252854 File: 211 KB, 320x480, 1f87d6f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8252797 >Seeing a Undertaker fighting with Crux knights against darklore is unbelievable Not any more.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 19:07:47 2011 No.8252934
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>have to remove a follower
>remove Laura
>''Y-you don't like me..?''
>can't resist and put her again in the deck
>''Thank you for forgive me''

That's why I can't have a good deck, fuck this moe game

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 19:13:51 2011 No.8252959 >>''Thank you for forgive me'' This is why you can't speak English. Also, quotation marks will save you a keystroke.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 20:31:50 2011 No.8253301

>>8251619
Obviously you are a shit player at CCG's. I am ignorant about non MTG card games but I am rather good at MTG. While rare cards will give you an advantage, even playing with shit cards done right and exploiting the rules to their limits will gain you a victory.

As an example, I knew a guy that liked a challenge. When I was first starting to learn the game this guy would come to casual games with a white deck with over 500 cards. Hardly any rhyme or reason to the deck, yet with shit cards he would managed to wreck every play you made.

If MTG was using a dumbed down RNG system, he deck wouldnt have made it past the second turn.

While in high level tournaments when playing against like minded people obviously your cards will also have to be on par. But the advantage is always going to be with the smarter player. The only RNG factors are your hand and draw, sometimes just your opening hand.

This game takes almost all thought from the player and puts everything in to RNG. Its no different that WOW. Dodge, Dodge, Parry, Miss, CRITICAL. Only with out the smooth interface and deep lore.

Id hardly even say that building a deck take skill because Rare cards make all the difference. I suppose you could jsut put all the rare cards in a single deck and win most of your games with your eyes closed.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:21:53 2011 No.8253532
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That's it. The next time I see someone play this bitch I swear on god's green earth I'm going to find out where they live and burn their house to the ground.

God fucking dammit, how do you kill her?!

Shrink doesn't work, Mother Demon Rumor doesn't work, the only thing I've got against her is Forced Entry and that's only if she's in slot 3.

Goddamn it, I even shield broke her and STILL had to wear her down for FOUR ROUNDS before the bitch went down. Holy shit this card is unfair, and for 1 size?

Who made this card? Goddamn it, I hate it so much.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:23:23 2011 No.8253542 >>8253532 Size = 1 I laughed. Never noticed her size before.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:26:52 2011 No.8253566 >>8248997 It's a shitty card game made by dumb gaijin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:28:52 2011 No.8253584 >>8253532 >4-1-5 >Size one >STA increased by number of cards in your hand plus 1 Nice idea, i will add her to my darklore deck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:30:52 2011 No.8253601 >>8253584 oh wait. 4-2-5

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:35:53 2011 No.8253637 >>8253532 You can mass recall her...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:38:52 2011 No.8253656 >Crafting Mass Recall The reason I quit.

>>	H Sat Dec 17 21:39:22 2011 No.8253663 >>8253301 well whoever was running your get together is a fucking retard, because decks that size aren't allowed, unless your friend has huge-ass hands and can shuffle his deck without assistance.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:42:53 2011 No.8253688 >>8253656 Try making a Reunion instead. It's easier than Mass Recall.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:44:22 2011 No.8253699

>>8253301
>Obviously you are a shit player at CCG's. I am ignorant about non MTG card games but I am rather good at MTG.

I will just ignore your misconception.
I also play magic and join tournaments from time to time, so I can use magic as an example.
Rare cards do not just give you an advantage, they win you games.
Think Bane Slayer, if you do not have an answer to her, you are fucked. You play Green? No anti flying cards? Well, you just lost the game.

>If MTG was using a dumbed down RNG system, he deck wouldnt have made it past the second turn.

If he is up against an expensive deck, he WON'T make it to turn 2.
A type 1 deck can finish you off in 1 to 2 turns. What with those moxes, black lotus, ancestral recall, time walk, etc.
One of the classic finishers is channel --> fireball, but that is just for fun.

>Id hardly even say that building a deck take skill because Rare cards make all the difference. I suppose you could jsut put all the rare cards in a single deck and win most of your games with your eyes closed.

Of course it takes skill. If you just put all the rares in, you lose. Obviously, you do not put incompatible cards in, even if it is "rare".

>This game takes almost all thought from the player and puts everything in to RNG.

But it does not. Clearly there are cards that you should play at certain times, even if there is an RNG involved.

>While in high level tournaments when playing against like minded people obviously your cards will also have to be on par. But the advantage is always going to be with the smarter player.

That is because in tournaments, most people tend to play decks that go through their decks quickly. This way, it takes the luck factor out, since you are getting to your key cards quicker; however, against say a fast red deck, if you are unlucky, you lose.
I believe fast red decks are pretty good in current tournaments, as they don't cost too much to make and can place you fairly high.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:47:22 2011 No.8253713 >>8253584 Hope you have the materials for it, my guess is she takes about 40 to 50 ruins fragments plus all the other shit that goes along with it.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:51:23 2011 No.8253737

>>8253663
I am the same poster as 8253699.
Just telling you that you are allowed to make decks of any size(minimum 60 cards in constructed, 40 in draft). There is actually a magic card that lets you win the game if you deck size is greater a certain amount, but I don't remember what it is called.
I assume that poster was talking about casual play.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:52:52 2011 No.8253745

>>8253663
>casual

You missed a point bro. One tends to pull sticks from their asses before a casual game.

>>8253699
Stop making assumptions. He took that deck up against many expensive decks and held his own. He didnt win a lot of 1 v 1 with it but it was a mind fuck playing against it.

I like how your focus is on expensive. When will you kids learn that money != good. Tossing more money at a problem is rarely the solution. This is one more reason I can tell you suck.

As for the rest of your post. I cant read that disconnected load of Autism. My head hurts from looking at half of it. Next time you respond to me, keep all your green text at the top. I do not have ADD and do not have a problem remembering what I wrote.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 21:53:23 2011 No.8253751 >>8253713 Well shit. It's MMO after all.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:13:54 2011 No.8253856

>>8253532
Sure, it takes a long time to kill, but it never really matters for me. Once I'm done with her, she'll be sporting negative attack and defense, and she's basically just a burden on the enemy field. And then I raise her cost with bondage, I don't really find this card too troublesome.

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:15:24 2011 No.8253866

>>8253532
I use darklore if i see the bitch i just wait for her to build sta and use the spell card force confinement, if the guy is lucky enough to draw her again, another force confinement luckily this card has not been dangerous, same for undertaker, seekers and fucking maids, also mass recall or swap spell are good counters.

>>8252713
u just suck using darklore that's all

Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:21:53 2011 No.8253901

alright so I read this beta session ends on the 19th?
I just started a couple days ago and it seems like a reasonable timesink, it'd probably take me a month to get sick of, so I'm kind of disappointed by my 4 day play experience.
anyone know when the next beta is?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:23:55 2011 No.8253908 >>8253901 the 20th...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:26:25 2011 No.8253921 >>8253908 Its another beta? No date for retail yet?

>>	H Sat Dec 17 22:26:25 2011 No.8253922 >>8253737 yeah i know. >>8253745 what did you write anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:35:54 2011 No.8253947 >>8253908 well fuck me right? everytime I don't google something first I immediately realize how dumb I sound afterwards

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 22:50:27 2011 No.8253987 Holy living hell, a lot of you guys threw a complete tantrum in this thread. Take it easy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 17 23:05:57 2011 No.8254041 It's the battle for the holy art book

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 00:09:28 2011 No.8254296 File: 70 KB, 360x200, Yukkuri_MarisaReimu[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8253987 do what now?

Anonymous Sun Dec 18 00:14:27 2011 No.8254341
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I lose every single game I play in Fights, EVERY SINGLE GAME. It's pretty funny actually.

It's always less than 5 HP on either side and most often comes down to the last coin flip and which card gets attacked first. Doesn't matter how many times I play though or what I do to alter my deck, I always lose.

Here's my current deck (I've posted it before just with less Librarians). I think I should get rid of the Cook Club but I don't know what to replace them with. I have 3 green ore and I've been grinding for cat dolls to try for the student council member that gets Attack and Status based on how many cards of a similar size are in the grave.

You know the one.

Anyhow, no green ore, no cat dolls. I just have starter decks of the other factions.

Advice?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 00:24:27 2011 No.8254385 Will they be releasing more cards in the open beta?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 00:25:28 2011 No.8254393 >>8254341 Too many followers. Not enough spells, and no OP spells from outside your faction.

Anonymous Sun Dec 18 01:01:04 2011 No.8254581

>>8254341
If you are lucky, use all of your followers as many as possible (use small size followers) in the first turn. If your enemy was stupid enough, they will use one or two card spell in the first turn. Use spell means take more time to counter your followers attack. Do this and they will fall for sure.
Tl;dr frontal attacks.

Anonymous Sun Dec 18 01:13:59 2011 No.8254668

>>8254393
Wait ... too FEW spells?

Hmm, ok. What OP spells would you suggest. I was thinking on the walk over to work (I'm at work now actually) that maybe the problem was that I had a good defense and not a good offense since I can drag fights out for a lot of rounds (I actually decked 2 people) but I have a poor time attacking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 01:22:29 2011 No.8254732 >>8254341 Run the student council cards for open beta. The student council spells are great, and Celine has a great effect. (Her effect also works on student justice). Empowering chant is also a must for a size 1 Vita spell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 01:25:30 2011 No.8254750 >>8254668 Not that guy but I myself run around 11-13 spells, similar to how many you have because I hate having a 5 spell card hand in the middle or end of a match when you have no more shuffles.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 02:27:01 2011 No.8255094 The dungeon crawler would be vastly improved if there was a pause button.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 03:36:03 2011 No.8255317 >>8255094 Why do you need a pause button for a 3 minute fight?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:17:03 2011 No.8255438 File: 43 KB, 432x434, 1315357444992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't know what to think when someone wastes 2 shrinks on my witches, only to deal with the unstoppable force that is the Undertaker one turn later.

Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Sun Dec 18 04:19:03 2011 No.8255451

>>8249967
>>8249959
There's a chain in that attacks trigger counter attacks and different positions trigger different effects both positive and negative for both sides.

There should be priority and speed, though. They could fix that pretty easily, though.

I actually got addicted to this shit. How long are we gonna have to wait between Closed and Open Beta?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:29:07 2011 No.8255483 >>8255451 Just so you know, you need to grind about 5 games per card point. Enjoy your 2500 games for 500 card points, which is about a decent deck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:36:33 2011 No.8255510 >>8255483 I'm new to this, so what is card points anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:41:33 2011 No.8255521 >>8255510 You level.

Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:51:06 2011 No.8255550

>>8253745
>I like how your focus is on expensive. When will you kids learn that money != good. Tossing more money at a problem is rarely the solution. This is one more reason I can tell you suck.

It seems like you did not read my post at all.

Magic clearly makes some cards better than other cards. If you think otherwise, you are an idiot.
Compare Bane Slayer to Serra Angel. Compare Time Walk to Time Warp. Do you know the difference between the two? The better version costs more.
Do you know why Snapcaster Mage costs so much, even though it is non-mythic?

Have you seen a truly strong deck? They cost a shit load, over 1,000 dollars to build, because cards like Black Lotus are expensive.
Those types of decks win in 1 to 2 turns. Do you know why Jace the Mind Sculpture is so expensive? It is because he is good in tournament play. Do you know why Ancestral Recall is expensive? 1 Blue to cast instant, draw 3 cards.
Almost all top tier decks use those types of spells, because they are good. They have a term for such cards, it is called Power 9.

I don't know what your definition of a top tier deck is then. If you think a 500 card deck can beat a top tier deck, I think you are playing with idiots.
You want to see a top tier deck, just go online and search for one and see if a 500 card deck can win.

Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:53:34 2011 No.8255564

>>8255550
>As for the rest of your post. I cant read that disconnected load of Autism. My head hurts from looking at half of it. Next time you respond to me, keep all your green text at the top. I do not have ADD and do not have a problem remembering what I wrote.

>It seems like you did not read my post at all.

Where did you get that idea?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 18 04:54:04 2011 No.8255570 >>8255550 Jace made me quit MtG. So I didn't know what Snapcaster Mage did since I haven't been following. What a fucking ludicrous card.

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