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8244634 No.8244634 [Reply] [Original]

Why is it acceptable for a guy to be forceful but gentle and caring towards a shy, fragile girl in H manga, but the guy can't be the fragile shy one while the girl is forceful but caring and gentle?
I just want to be loved tenderly.

>> No.8244642

>but the guy can't be the fragile shy one while the girl is forceful but caring and gentle

This is acceptable in my ways ^^;

>> No.8244639

If you mean just in H manga, that is incredibly common. If real life, my aunt was that way with my uncle.

>> No.8244638

You pretty much want any straight shotacon work ever produced.

>> No.8244640

Gotta pay the troll toll if you wanna get into that boy's hole

>> No.8244644

>>8244638
Yes, but why can't there be any normal adult works where a girl manages to get a shy guy to let her love him?

>> No.8244649

>>8244644
The men are expected to be the ones to initiate it and the girls are supposed to be the shy ones.

>> No.8244650

>>8244649
that's not my fantasy though. I want to be loved...

>> No.8244651

>>8244649
that is soo gay!

>> No.8244659
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>>8244650
If you want to be loved, you have to show love first. You don't just get to be loved. Be a man.

>> No.8244685
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>> No.8244695

>>8244685
CRAZY!!@#r$#w^t$w^%

>> No.8244710

>>8244659
>If you want to be loved, you have to show love first. You don't just get to be loved.

Fair enough. Idle hands never grab what they desire and all tha-

>Be a man.

Fuck. You. Fuck you and every retard that try to build a society where it is expected that men be the only ones to put their hearts on the line.

Trip and fall into a meat grinder.

>> No.8244721
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>>8244659
But I'm not manly. I'm very shy. It's not like I don't want to love back, I'm just too shy to do anything first.
I just want a girl to pat my head and tell me everything is going to be okay, and love her in return.

>> No.8244722

I understand OP, don't worry. I can't say I feel that way but I can understand your fear. Just know that girls feel the same fear as you do.

>> No.8244729

>>8244710
>Fuck. You. Fuck you and every retard that try to build a society where it is expected that men be the only ones to put their hearts on the line.
It sure is hard for them to put their hearts on the line as they browse the bar and use all those pickup lines to get into someone's pants, isn't it?

>>8244721
If you're not going to man up, you don't deserve to be loved.

>> No.8244727
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>>8244721
(*^^*)

>> No.8244733

>>8244729
>Discussion about love
>Bring up bar flies
>You actually think this is a perfect analogy

Get out, slut.

>>>/soc/

>> No.8244736

>>8244729
Nonesense, not one of them but that sort of logic is silly
.
Everybody deserves love. Love is the thing keeping this world from being a total shithole.

>> No.8244742

>>8244733
How can you tell people to get out of /jp/ when you're greentexting?

>> No.8244741

>>8244733
You people are any different? Look at all the threads you make about abusing women and posting about Violated Heroine.
>>8244736
Only the people who are brave enough to love first should be loved. That's a man's responsibility.

>> No.8244754

>>8244741
That's your interpretation of a man's responsibility. That's a cultural value of yours. Are you really shallow enough to think your cultural values and feeling apply to everybody? Think about it.

>> No.8244759

>>8244754
Are you really that much of a coward to not be able to go up to a woman and say "I like you"? and not come off as a creep?

>> No.8244766

>>8244759
Frankly, no I'm not. I can easily talk to other people I just am not interested in 3d.

However, I don't see how you can judge people for being the way they are. Saying something extreme like "You don't deserve love if!" is ridiculous. Why doesn't everybody deserve love regardless of issues they might have? You think because they don't conform to a stereotype of a "Man" they have no worth? Ridiculous.

>> No.8244773

>>8244759
>Creep
>Coward
These are all just points of view and perceptions of another individual. Surely you understand this.

>> No.8244769

>>8244759
i could win the peace prize and still come off as a huge creep

>> No.8244788

>>8244766
If a man can't love a woman and be brave enough to tell her that, why should he be loved?

>> No.8244793

I'm sorry. It seems I started an argument. I just wanted to know why it wasn't okay for guys to be the shy ones...

>> No.8244792

>>8244788
You've completely ignored what I had to say and simply reiterated your argument. I don't have anything else to say to you.

>> No.8244800

>>8244773
I'm pretty sure that many women would agree on what guys do that makes them creeps and cowards, and that they tend to be one and the same.
>>8244793
The shy guys are the creepy and clingy ones. No one wants a creep. Either be brave or go home.

>> No.8244814

>>8244793
It is ok to be shy. Culturally at the moment, it's quite easy to be overlooked if you aren't outgoing. Many girls now want an outgoing man that makes them feel safe, but that's not how all girls are. If you are shy you are fine how you are. If you aren't happy with being shy than you can overcome it. Fear is VERY natural when talking to the opposite sex. Almost everybody has it.

Don't let people judge you for being yourself. Put a little effort into getting noticed by girls. Try to make yourself attractive to the opposite sex, you should be able to do a bit of research to figure out what's in style at the moment and stuff like that if you're trying to appeal to women. I've had many girls come up to me and engage me in conversation, they give you all sorts of hints they're interested in you. You can do the same thing if you really wanted, it's called Flirting

>>8244800
If a person is shallow enough to judge somebody they don't know as "Creepy" it's not you that has the issue it's them. Especially if you dress nice and groom yourself. I see people who put no effort into their appearance as a bit "Creepy" but it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with them. It's just my interpretation.

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>>8244800
I'll just stay home then. Love just wouldn't work out for me anyways.

>> No.8244825

>>8244820
If you wanted to take the easy way out than that's your choice. It's easy to hide in your room all day and not better yourself, I did the same thing for years and eventually overcame it.

>> No.8244828

>>8244814
What, so a man who sits in the corner of the room and looks at you every now and then doesn't qualify as creepy? You would suggest any woman to actually go over and talk to him instead of informing the police?

>> No.8244839

>>8244828
No, frankly it doesn't. If a woman was physically attracted to the guy it would be a whole different situation. It might get her attention. Woman are more perceptive than you think. You probably think they're dumb and every time a guy eyes them they think "Oh I bet you he wants to rape me I'd better be careful!" That couldn't be further from the truth. If a girl is attractive she knows men are going to check her out. It might be annoying to her, it might scare her, it might even flatter her. Woman are individuals after all.

>> No.8244848
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>>8244825
I tried to take the easy way out. I can't. It hurts to be so lonely.

>> No.8244842

>>8244828
I don't blame you, that has the sound of a thing I would be doing when looking for girls to murder during mid night.
If you were in a public area around men you do not know, you are asking for it though.

>> No.8244856

>>8244842
>you are asking for it though.
So a woman is asking to be raped by a cowardly creep by just being out in public? Should burkas be required when going out?

>> No.8244860

>>8244848
Your desire to better yourself needs to be stronger than your fear.

This is cliche as fuck but it only gets easier as you start. The first step will always be the hardest, but once you get moving things get better.

A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

>> No.8244867

>>8244856
Yeah man, if she's dressing attractively she's clearly a slut and wants to get gang-raped.


Just kidding, that kind of thinking is beyond stupid.

>> No.8244874

>>8244860
No one will help me on that journey. I'm all alone, with no clue where I'm supposed to go. I can't live like this, I can't live like that.

>> No.8244876

>>8244856
What makes it wrong? If you want to fit in an archaic style of a man initiating all flirting and acting like 19th century men, you might as well wear a burka or skirt down to your ankles.
You can't have the best of both worlds.

>> No.8244879

>>8244848
GOT A GOOD REASON

FOR TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT

GOT A GOOD REASON

FOR TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT NOW

>> No.8244890

>>8244874
You can get help man, you just have to reach out. There's all sorts of communities available online, and in the real world too. But it is true, tragically you're the only one who can save yourself. A shitty analogy but. Somebody could make a lifeboat for you and invite you inside but you still have to be willing to step inside of it.

>> No.8244892

>>8244800
isn't braveness just selfishness? cowardice seems a lot more selfless if anything.

>> No.8244904

>>8244890
There is no lifeboat. There is no one who would ever love me.

>> No.8244908

>>8244820
>>8244848
Please don't post images of Mado while wallowing in your disgusting self-pity.

Also, women expect guys to come to them. Since the beginning of time, women have always expected everything to be handed to them. That's the way it's always been, and the way it always will be.There are always exceptions though, the only girlfriend I ever had came to me. She was enough to put me off 3D for life, which I am thankful for, at least.

>> No.8244911

>>8244904
You've already defeated yourself with that thinking then. You hold the key to your own future and happyness, rather or not you decide to work towards it is your choice. I cannot save you. Nobody in this thread can save you. You have to decide you want to grow.

>> No.8244914

Because women are objects.
If you want her, take her. That easy.
The moment you doubt you can have her, she will leave you.
It's like riding a horse.

>> No.8244923

>>8244911
I never had that key to begin with. I was born a freak and I'll die a freak.

>> No.8244922

Respect the cock
And TAME the cunt

Suck my big fat fucking sausage!!!!!

>> No.8244930

>>8244892
There is nothing more selfish than a cowardly man to expect a woman to give him anything without him doing anything.

>> No.8244944

>>8244892
Everything is selfish. There is nothing we do intentionally that we don't do for our own benefit in some way.

>> No.8244946

Even the drugs the psychiatrist stopped working so I got rid of them. I can't be happy. I just wasn't lucky enough.

>> No.8244951

Why are you guys talking about picking up 3D pigs? OP clearly just wants some 逆ナン ero-manga and galge. Is that too much to ask for?

>> No.8244956

>>8244930
>There is nothing more selfish than a cowardly woman to expect a man to give her anything without her doing anything.

Seriously though, get the fuck out of here. Your blatant sexism is absolutely disgusting.

>> No.8244967

>>8244951
>Is that too much to ask for?
I can't say I've ever heard of any. I just know of that one series of regular nanpa eroge.

>> No.8244995

>>8244946
You're what they call a defeatist. I wish I could help you but there's nothing I can do.

>> No.8245001

>>8244995
They don't work and none of them ever work. The doctors are lying. I can't be happy.

>> No.8245005

>>8245001
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/defeatist

Wake up from your self-pity.

>> No.8245014

>>8244995
A textbook defeatist would only be able to work for the sake of others. In which case, OP needs to find someone he can devote himself to.

>> No.8245025
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>>8245001

It sounds like you need to work on your fear-proof exoskeleton

Trust me, it's way easier to be happy when you come to that comforting realization that no one else will hate you as much as you hate yourself!

>> No.8245037

>>8245005
It's not that easy. It's not even possible for me to be happy.

>> No.8245062

>>8245037
As long as you tell yourself that buddy. You act like you're trying to convince yourself you don't have a chance. You do, you're just unwilling to try. Unwilling to take the chance. You WANT to fail. Until you want to succeed you will never do anything. But just know it's your fault, and you can do it. Whatever happened to you in the past to make you this way is unfortunate op, but you are a self-aware adult now who has to take responsibility for themselves and their choices.

>> No.8245176

>>8245062
I can't make choices on my own. I'm too scared. I need someone to save me.

>> No.8245191

>>8245176

The cruelest thing you can do to someone is to make one dependent on you, Anon. Were you "saved," would you not be unable to function if your savior suddenly dropped off the face of the earth?

>> No.8245202

>>8245191
I don't know. I'm barely functioning now.

>> No.8245214

>>8245202
Go to your psychiatrist and tell them the drugs aren't working if you haven't already done so.

>> No.8245222

>>8245214
No, they'll put me on something else that makes me feel sick in a new way and doesn't help. They just want to hurt me.

>> No.8245260

>>8245222
You don't know until you try.

It sure beats feeling like this? Imagine if you went and they helped you feel good again?

>> No.8245269

>>8245260
they never made me feel good, only empty

>> No.8245287

>>8245269
Keep trying.

>> No.8245304

>>8245287
it's no good
they've never been able to make me feel happy

>> No.8245350

The way my ex-girlfriend asked me out: crept up behind me with a rag soaked in chloroform, knocked me out, and when I woke up I was I a car headed for a restaurant. I went along with this for a while, as these dates were kind of amusing. Eventually, though, I found out her background and ran for the hills.

Fear women who take charge, they can be unstable.
Well, even more so than women in general are.

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8245379

I know that feel, OP.
I just want to get taken by a strong,forceful yet still gentle and caring Yuugi.

But alas, such things don't usually happen in life. But a man can dream.....

That's why I stick with 2D girls. At least there is plenty of material with strong women and weak and gentle men in the 2D world.

>> No.8245383

Well the easiest way to get such a relationship would be being gay. The 2nd easiest solution would be to betray your true self and "man up".
Or well, just be extremly lucky and find a dominant girl and be dependant on her, but eventually you will be too bothersome and clingy due to you being independant so she will abadon you

>> No.8245389

lame

>> No.8245388

>>8245383
>>eventually she will abandon you

This is true of all 3DPD.

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8245406

Why are we talking about ourselves and real life when the OP clearly stated he was looking at H manga

>> No.8245412

>>8245388
Not if she or he is dependant too

>> No.8248436

>>8245406
Because there's no H manga to discuss.

>> No.8248448

>>8244951
>逆ナン
The pleasure of being cummed inside?

>> No.8248481

>>8245214

(Different person here in a very similar position.)

How am I suppose to see a psychiatrist in the first place?

If by some miracle I was able to tell someone that I needed help, I would never be able to bring myself to open my mouth in front of the doctor.

>> No.8248539

>>8248448
Yes.

>> No.8248658

>>8248481
>>8245304
>>8245287
>>8245269
>>8245260
>>8245260
>>8245222
>>8245214
>>8245202
>>8245191
>>8245176
>>8245062
>>8245037
>>8245025
>>8245014
>>8245005
>>8245001
>>8244995
>>8244946
>>8244923
It's like I'm watching NGE all over again!
thanks for the decade-old nostalgia guys!

>> No.8248931

>>8248658
whats an neg

>> No.8248947

>>8244634
Patchouli-sama isn't shy or fragile.

She's a poweful magician and an important force in the SDM.

>> No.8249037

>>8248931
Neon Genesis Evangelion

>> No.8251246

>>8244867
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1KHqi9bXc

>> No.8251267

Why are you talking as if love existed in 3D form? It doesn't.

>> No.8251279

>>8251267
A grand irony since he is going to lose no matter what route he takes.

>> No.8251274

>>8248658
Every time I rewatch NGE, I'm looking for Shinji's Razor but I can't see it. :/

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