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Katawa Shoujo confirmed for release shortly after the world ends in 2012.

http://katawashoujo.blogspot.com/2011/12/katawa-shoujo-will-be-released-on.html

>> No.8241627

Still not going to play it. Seems to generic. They could have given some decent gimmick

>> No.8241629

oh boy here we go

>> No.8241632

>>8241627
The fact that they're all disabled isn't enough of a gimmick?

>> No.8241635

>>8241627
yeah that's true, they should have at least put some crippled girls into it. you know just for the shock value and all.

>> No.8241639 [DELETED] 

> The date of 4 January was selected in order to coincide with the fifth anniversary of the /a/ sticky that started this project
Oh god it's already been that long?

>> No.8241640

>>8241632
>gimmick

Stop using that buzzword

>> No.8241643

is there a misha route?

>> No.8241644

>>8241640
He started it!

>> No.8241646

>>8241632
>>8241635
No, that's not enough for me. It's just a generic high school harem VN. And yes, the disabled part is a gimmick, but I'm looking for something along the lines of Cross Channel or Sharin or something.

>> No.8241652

Can't wait to pick apart the writing, art, and music.

Good luck devs. Maybe you made something decent, or maybe you didn't at all.

>> No.8241657

>>8241646
Oh, you're one of those people.

>> No.8241660

>>8241657
One of what people? I'm sorry, I don't want to read something unoriginal, I've already read it.

>> No.8241663

Look, honestly, trolling aside, if it ever actually does come out, I'll play it. I don't have my hopes set too high, but I'll give it a fair shake. Maybe it'll change my mind about western VNs.

>> No.8241667

KS devs confirmed long ago that it's generic s hell.

>> No.8241668

I'm waiting warmly.
It's got all the parts I like about Japanese VNs and almost none that piss me off.

>> No.8241670

Katawa Shoujo attracts all the wrong kind of people.

If I had $100 for every LOL COME LOOK AT THIS DISABLED GURLS SO RANDUM LOL XD faggot I've seen on /jp/ and 4chan in general because of this VN I'd be rich enough to make the /jp/ house a reality.

I'll be glad when the hype dies down so all the bandwagon jumping kiddies and normalfags can go back where they came from.

>> No.8241672

>>8241663
It's been so long that it's something that I'll play out of curiosity, if nothing else.

>> No.8241674 [DELETED] 

>>8241663
This. To be honest, the art, music, etc. all seems pretty good. I'm just worried because it's a 4chan-derived project and pretty scattered, so there's a pretty high chance of failure.
Worst case scenario it's just another generic Ren'Py OELVN we read through once and then forget forever.

>> No.8241676

Fuck, I HOPE it's generic.
That's the only chance it has not be an awful pretentious clusterfuck.

>> No.8241677 [DELETED] 

>>8241670
We get it, they're disabled and that's a "gimmick" and we got over this years ago. If it was set in an ordinary school you'd just whine about how generic it is. At least this gives an interesting opportunity for some interesting character development and DRAMA.

>> No.8241684

>>8241646
Sucks for you then. The rest of us will enjoy this visual novel.

>> No.8241688

>>8241677
>If it was set in an ordinary school you'd just whine about how generic it is

I think you have the wrong guy because no I wouldn't. If it was set in an ordinary school we wouldn't have all these shock value loving LOL SO EDGY I'M GONNA TRY TO FUCK THE GIRL WITH NO ARMS XD twats here.

>> No.8241689 [DELETED] 

>>8241676
> Fuck, I HOPE it's generic.
Well it seems to be, just with a little bit of a hopefully-interesting twist. These are my favourite kind of projects--the ones that do something pretty cliche but add some non-pretentious new flavour to it. The Eberron setting for D&D is a good example.

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8241692

Really? At long last?

>> No.8241694 [DELETED] 

>>8241688
I've never actually seen any such people. Maybe it's because I avoid /a/ and these threads.
Can't you just ignore those people? They're clearly not doing this for shock value, they're doing this for DRAMA and CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. It might flop horribly, we just have to wait and see.

>> No.8241695

>>8241677

You would've read it if it was released in japan with absolutely no connection to the west you hypocritical cunt.

>> No.8241696

>>8241688
What kind of people are you talking about? Honestly seems like some strawman argument. Yes, some people only look at this because lol cripple porn but nobody acts that way.

>> No.8241698

It is?
Nice.
I will patiently wait and enjoy it when it comes out.
How many sex scenes were confirmed per girl?

>> No.8241700

>>8241698
Hanako confirmed for 4 incontinence scenes by the devs.

>> No.8241702

>>8241698
1-4 repending on route.

>> No.8241703

Rin footjobs ahoy!

>> No.8241704

Reported for ads/spam.

>> No.8241705

>>8241670
I don't think a cardboard box is big enough for a /jp/ house.

>> No.8241707 [DELETED] 

>>8241695
That's a stupid argument. If, say, some American musician decided to release Hungarian-style folk music, of course I'd judge his work differently to actual Hungarian folk music.

>> No.8241708
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>>8241695
Hahaha, exactly.

This is no different from your average doujin release. A bunch of dudes gathered and made a VN. There is nothing more to this than you could find in glorious nippon during Comiket.

And speaking of comiket, they are gonna release it there too, I wonder?

>> No.8241719

>>8241708
They are, yes. Even with a fancy case and artwork.

>> No.8241720

>>8241708

Not in time for Winter Comiket, but probably next Summer Comiket?

>> No.8241721

>>8241708
Doubt it. Comiket ends Dec31.

>> No.8241724

>>8241707

No but what your doing is calling the hungarian style music thats released in america shit without even listening to it.
While if the exact same song was released in hungary you'd like it.

My point is that people who refuse to read it simply because it isn't made in japan are just as big of idiots as the people who scream GONNA BE THE BEST VN EVER XD.

>> No.8241732

Get out KS devs

>> No.8241736

>>8241708
I think the Japanese will have the game first, watch out for early spoilers

>> No.8241747

>>8241736
They said on IRC the game won't be released at Comiket.

Besides, what would be the point? It'd still need Japanese translation, which will take a while.

>> No.8241756

Dear god, it has been five years.

Can't wait for the wave of butthurt when it's actually released. The demo release alone caused untold amounts of aspie rage.

>> No.8241759

I hear the sex scenes can be...

*shades*

...disabled.


YEEEEAHHHH

>> No.8241760 [DELETED] 

>>8241747
Don't they have any dedicated translators already? The website was in like six languages last time I checked. Why bother if it's only going to be released in English to begin with?

> HTTP Error 503: Service Not Available
> The Katawa Shoujo server seems to be c̶r̶i̶p̶p̶l̶e̶d̶ overloaded. Please try again later.
Very clever, KS devs.

>> No.8241763

>>8241756
God, it was so long ago.
But I remember loving the demo.

>> No.8241766

>>8241760
>Why would an English-language game release in English first?

I don't know.

>> No.8241768

>>8241760
Also they handed out the demo at previous comikets, so I'd figure the full game will be released there as well.
Maybe not at the next one, though.

>> No.8241770

>>8241695
>You would've read years ago it if it was released in japan with absolutely no connection to the west you hypocritical cunt.
Fixed.

>> No.8241786

>>8241707
Why? Why would you care if the guy who made the music is Hungarian or not? It's not like the music itself changes depending on the answer.

>> No.8241787

>/a/ is happy
>/v/ is happy
>/jp/ bitches
How predictable.

>> No.8241795

>>8241787
It's almost like /jp/ was made specifically to get rid of the whiny bitches.

Oh wait.

>> No.8241805

This is huh...wow...

I would be lying if I said I wasn't looking forward to it. In fact, I can't stop smiling.

Congrats, guys. Even if its shit.

>> No.8241824

>>8241787

/jp/ is happy inside, but if it shows hospitality, the shithoard of /a/ and /v/ will think they're accepted here.

>> No.8241836

>>8241787
/a/ and /v/ also like shitty things, and try to post on /jp/ to make themselves feel better about liking shitty things.

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Feels like Act 1 was released ages ago. Hope that the userbase that sprung around it didn't change it for the negative and that the final product is still interesting, all things considered.

It's always nice to see a project emerge from the fog of vaporware, looking forward to release date.

>> No.8241841

>>8241770
ouch.

>> No.8241845

>>8241840
Given that the devs don't give two shits about a fanbase they hate, I'd say the fanbase didn't change it for the worse.

>> No.8241854

Give me an honest opinion, /jp/ haters of the game, on what exactly is wrong with it? Is it not to par with industry standards and the like?
Art?
Story?
Music?

Really, what's wrong with it? I'm curious.

>> No.8241857

>>8241836
I really don't think they see /jp/ as the shining beacon of superior taste.

>> No.8241860

>>8241845
Those are some good news, the fans were really bad last time I checked.

>> No.8241861

>>8241854
Aside from everything? Nothing.

>> No.8241865

>>8241854
hating for the sake of hate.

>> No.8241867

>>8241860
>last time I checked.
The sticky on /a/?

>> No.8241870

>>8241857
Because it isn't. People here seldom *talk* of anything good or relevant, limiting themselves to shitposting.

Hell, I am even willing to bet that the people who bitch the most are the ones behind all the spam in /jp/.

>> No.8241876

>>8241857
Yeah, because they're too busy crying tears of despair at how crappy they know they are.

>>8241845
If someone made this trite sap any worse, it'd probably go out the bottom of terrible and somehow be good.

>> No.8241877

WHAT. IS. HER. DISABILITY!?

>> No.8241882

>>8241854

>Is it not to par with industry standards and the like?

Basically.

>Art?

Average quality, bland, washed colors.

>Story?

"OH NO I'M IN A NEW SCHOOL AND THERE ARE GIRLS" is the entire plot thus far. Can't comment unless there's really no more than that, which would be wholesomely disappointing.

>Music?

Very sub-par filler noise, but no worse than any other generic VN.


All in all it's a completely white-bread two-a-week VN that's only claim to fame is that it's not made in japan. There are dozens like it that never get translated because they're simply not worth the time.

>> No.8241883 [DELETED] 

>>8241877
Does she even have one? I figured she was supposed to be like a carer.

>> No.8241884

>>8241876
It's okay.

>> No.8241890

Nobody cares about this shit. Take it back to /a/ and /v/ with the rest of the scum.

>> No.8241892

>>8241877
No route

>> No.8241893

Will there be scat?

>> No.8241896

Visual Novels can be so much more, Katawa Shoujo is the work that will revolutionize the genre by showing us how.

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>>8241893
Yes.

>> No.8241901 [DELETED] 

>>8241890
Plenty of the posts ITT disagree with you. Cool your autism.

>> No.8241902

The ability of /jp/ to feel superior to other boards never ceases to amaze me.

>> No.8241905

>>8241896
Books can be so much more, The God Delusion is the work that will revolutionize the genre by showing us how.

>> No.8241907

>>8241893
Devs said no "hardcore" fetishes, Missionary/handjob/blowjob/paizuri only.

>> No.8241908

>>8241902

Yeah. It's funny.

>> No.8241909

Finally we'll get this shit behind us.
Bracing for hilariously awkward tryhard scenarios.

>> No.8241911

Just to let you guys know, it was stickied in /a/, so prepare for hordes of /v/ and /a/.

>> No.8241914

>>8241902

Go back to whatever board you came from.

>> No.8241916

>>8241854
If you ask me it's just really mediocre storywise. Art is good but the music isn't something to write home about. However it's still better than most other western VNs out there. I can go on and on about the goods and bads about the thing when it comes out but I think the message to take home is that it's an okay Western VN made for free by some indie guys and that we should build upon that. Here's hoping the producers listen to their criticisms and praises and make something that will blow your socks off next time.

>> No.8241917

>>8241911
Look at this thread.

>> No.8241920

>>8241907
> Missionary/handjob/blowjob/paizuri only.
only missionary? Not even some tame position variation? Man

>> No.8241921

I just want to say that pretty much every VN in the world is trash besides Katawa Shoujo. Even then I'm kind of a bit sketchy. I really hope it lives up to expectations.

>> No.8241924

>>8241914
Sorry but I'm native here. Just not feeling as self-important as some other parts of the population here.

>> No.8241938

And trust me it's shit. The writing, the art and the whole fucking premise is just as boring and gimmicky as any other shitty VN. I was laughing my ass off right from the start when I first gave it a try.


Glad to know the game found a niche with the retards on /a/ and /v/ though.

>> No.8241946

I might read this

>> No.8241965

>>8241938
Tell me which VNs you like that have not been translated, brah.

No big names either. Go on. Show me your superior tastes.

>> No.8241976 [DELETED] 

>>8241938
You seem pretty bothered about the whole thing. Former dev or something?

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>> No.8241988 [DELETED] 

>>8241980
Why, if you dislike it so? Are you a masochist?

>> No.8241992

Hey if the game actually sucks, then we can say it sucks right?

>> No.8241995

>>8241902
It's easy for /jp/ to feel superior when /v/a/b/ are such prime examples of what a real shithole actually is.

>> No.8241996

>>8241992
NO UR NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THE GAME SUX BECAUSE I LIKE IT. YOU'RE JUST HATING IT BECAUSE IT'S POPULAR!

>> No.8241998

>>8241988

Shit you are really on my case. As I said, I am happy that a western dev is getting a lot of attention and that's it. I read through it some three years ago and I concluded that it was just poorly produced.

>> No.8241999

>>8241902
But we are superior compared to any board by far. The least amount of retarded underage people here. Not that I don't browse other boards on 4chan too myself.

>> No.8242002

went to read the /a/ thread, it's about as full of bitching as it is here if you turned every "as always /jp/ is bitching" into a random KS-customized meme post.
sure is just /jp/ being elitist and all

>> No.8242003 [DELETED] 

In an alternate universe somewhere, /jp/ is flaming the shit out of a guy called "ZUN" who is creating a generic shmup with the stupid gimmick that all the characters are cute little girls.

>> No.8242006

>likes Touhou
>calls KS generic
I'm quoting everyone who said KS is generic.

>> No.8242007 [DELETED] 

>>8241999
This. It's just too much effort for underage /b/tards to come and troll autists like us. I'm not saying it's difficult, it's just a lot clearer that it's ultimately pointless.
Even our regular trolls and shitposters only do it out of pure Aspergery goodness.

>> No.8242012

>>8242006
I don't like Touhou and called KS generic.

>> No.8242016

>>8242006
as much as I hate to use this expression, it's almost 2012, stop believing that everyone on /jp/ is a Touhou fan or likes Touhou.

>> No.8242017

>>8241965
Hah. As I thought. No answer.

I love it when ignoramus speak about quality in VNs, yet they have not experienced beyond what others give them.

>> No.8242019

>>8242007
>This. It's just too much effort for underage /b/tards to come and troll autists like us.

Stop flattering yourself, shitposter-kun. The only person you're "trolling" is yourself and all your samefriending posts.

>> No.8242025

>>8242003

If /jp/ (and hence /a/) hate Toho in that universe that means it never got popular (no hijacks, etc), so no /jp/ in the first place.

TIME PARADOX.

>> No.8242026

>hating because it's generic

Really? Most of the VNs you hype here are generic as fuck. Sharin no Kuni? Reads like the fanfiction of a 16 year old girl. G-Senjou? Same, only worse. Majikoi? No story still enjoyable, though. It's a VN, ffs. Read a book if you want an awesome story and intelligent plot.

>> No.8242027

>>8242016
Then what on earth are you doing here? /jp/ - Otaku Culture should just be renamed to /jp/ - Touhou.

>> No.8242030

>>8242027
Do you...actually browse the board?

>> No.8242031

>>8242016
Illegal immigrants like you don't determine board policy.

>> No.8242032

>>8242027
There's more to the board than your image dumps, friend.

>> No.8242033

Katawa Shoujo is the entry level game made for the secondary fans of eroges. Not once has this game tried to make itself unique in any leg splitting way. The fans are the worst part about this series, they continue to suck each others dicks and think its the best thing ever made. The truth is this piece of filth of an eroge is completely terrible, art, pacing, direction and music make it pale in comparison to even the worst made visual novels in comiket. Fans of KS are just merely ADHD little kids who feel rebellious finding a sex scene and saying "OMG XD I CANT BURELIVE SHE JUST XD HER AMRS." this is what the sole community of us loyal and true and proud eroge fans have to put up with. We will be browsing and then reading in disgust of the 5 year olds who find this game naughty. Good day to you /jp/ and KS devs the door is to your left please leave.

>> No.8242034

>>8242029
She's blind so no matter how ugly I am, she'll suck my cock.

>> No.8242035

The shittynes of KS is so great that it always manages to have /jp/ at each others throats. I love it!

>> No.8242037

>>8242029

A normalfag like yourself couldn't possibly understand our moe passion.

>> No.8242039

Hey /a/, Mod just spoke in your sticky, I suggest you all go back lest you be unable to suck his cock.

>> No.8242040

>>8242029
Many enjoyable VNs have simple set ups.

>> No.8242041

>>8242033

The game hasn't even released yet, fool. Such a modified pasta is untrue on all levels. Not saging to reveal your faggotry, even though this board is already filled to the brim with it.

>> No.8242043

Someone on 4chan actually finished a project? Well shit, took them long enough.

>> No.8242045

>>8242031
>don't determine board policy
Point to me where I said anything about board policy. I'm just saying there's other content besides Touhou and there's people who probably aren't interested in Touhou.
Sorry to have burst your bubble if that's what you believed.

>> No.8242049

So like how does /jp/ feel considering VNs have pretty much gone back to /a/ as normal material.

Only thing left in /jp/ is Touho spam.

>> No.8242055

Oh wow, /KS/, I can taste the hurt on your butt.

This board is shit. I almost wish you faggots would get the balls to leave, because it would be like flushing the toilet. But no, you'll continue to stay here and bitch, because that's all this board ever fucking does: sit in its own filth circlejerking to how you can NEET it up next while accomplishing nothing, aspiring to nothing, and just complaining nonstop about everything.

Look at yourselves, making death threats at moot even though you're powerless fatass losers who want to be on the dole for the rest of your lives and have no other goals but that. Look at this fucking board. You know what I see every time I come here? Fifty Touhou threads a day, Type Moon/Umineko/Higurashi discussion not even about the plot but about how much you want to fuck Battler/Rika/Akiha, wanking over Idolmaster, a game none of you faggots will ever play, and most of all, bitching about Katawa Shoujo when the majority of you probably haven't played more than half a dozen VNs because none of you are Japanese, just a bunch of morons with 10 brain cells between you who think that downloading CG sets of /rs/ makes you an expert on glorious Nippon.

If there was a hot woman on the street offering you free money and blowjobs in a Ferrari you would probably turn her down because she's not Japanese, the cash isn't in yen, and the car is Italian made.

Personally, I'm laughing my ass off at you all.

>> No.8242056

>>8242043
That's the part that gets me. If you've been following them, they've constantly said that it is not a VN made by 4chan and that most of the original people dropped out after a bit. They've made it a point to distinguish themselves from 4chan. Yet, now that's it's getting released they're suddenly renewing the 4chan connection.

>> No.8242060

>>8242056

Yeah, and 4chan will now be their vehicle to move their shitty VN as expected.

>> No.8242065

>>8242055

I think you just made a fresh copypasta!
I can't wait to use it.

Oh wait
>Sun Jun 21 04:22:13 2009

Damn.

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>>8242023
No need for a big list. Give me names on top of your head. Memorable things that moved you. No need to sear for reviews in google, which I am sure you are doing.

Hell, I am even willing to bet you will track down those oldfag threads and steal their recommendations.

Or maybe give me the games in a popularity rank in megami magazine. HAHAHAHAHA.

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I gave KS demo a try and was disappointed.
It is most likely on a good level if we compare it to other amateur weeaboo novels though, so yeah, stuff for hipsters and newbies who don't know Japanese.

>> No.8242071

>>8242065
it's not nice to stalk, Anon-kun.

>> No.8242072

Be thankful that there's this Katawa shoujo and the SOPA shit that there's finally something that /jp/ can talk about besides the usual shitposting and spam.

>> No.8242081 [DELETED] 

>>8242072
There are always new things to talk about. If seeing the same regular threads-per-topic over and over irritates you, /jp/ is not for you sir.

>> No.8242088 [DELETED] 

Can we please just form a unanimous agreement to be nice to each other and keep an open mind instead of just flaming things?

I don't like this, /jp/...

>> No.8242094

>>8242088
pffffhahahaha

>> No.8242095

I am going to read this.
It might be shit, it might be good.
But I'm betting the latter, because delicious Emi.

>> No.8242100

>>8242088
Sure, but first remove the shitposters that spam just for the sake of spamming from your board.
Oh wait.

>> No.8242101

>>8242095
Yeah Emi is anything but delicious and looked terrible before and after her makeover.
I'm still amazed how they managed to just go with this horrible design.

>> No.8242105

>>8242088
That's what I'm doing. I think /jp/ just really weary of the bombous attitude that /v/ and /a/ have in their KS threads. You can like KS and not be a retard and you can dislike KS and not be a hater.

>> No.8242107

>>8242101
Don't be such a dick just 'cause you have legs.

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>>8242105 bombous attitude

>> No.8242117

Hey /jp/ remember when you were part of /a/'s family before you started acting bipolar and were banished to this shithole.
I'll think of you when I'm playing KS- and laugh.

>> No.8242119

Wow only five years for a text and graphics story game. These guys have talent. At that rate they could make a great OELVJRPG in just ten years!

This also reminds me get out KS devs.

>> No.8242121

How does it feel to stop enjoying things?

>> No.8242124

/jp/ was fine during its creation. It was just /a/ - Touhou & Japanese.

Then the came the autists. Then came the dark age.

>> No.8242126

>>8242121
/jp/'s just tsundere.

>> No.8242127

>>8242082
No kid. You are just talking shit. Were you able to give at least 5 VNs that you personally liked I would not be chewing you like this. I would not have even need to confirm if they are good or not, since all people have their own tastes.

You are just pretentious. I do not give a damn if KS is good or not, and I expect it to be average at best, but people like you pisses me off.

With that, you have shown yourself to be a very basic troll. Off with you.

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>> No.8242131

>>8242121
>>8242124
Yes /jp/ is a shithole, how about you take your leave now?

>> No.8242133

>>8242110
>KS has been widely hated by /jp/ for a long time.
/a/ here. Why would you hate something that was made by anons, for anons?
Oh that's right, you're just a bunch of ignorant hipsters. Typical.

>> No.8242135

>With that, you have shown yourself to be a very basic troll. Off with you.

Hahaha, okay nerd. Have fun white-knighting your shitty VN.

>> No.8242137

>>8242119

Could you accomplish even a quarter of what they did without the drama, recruitment efforts, time, and work needed to make a superior product before you sprout unnecessary things like that?

NO? SHUT YOUR FAGGOTRY!

>> No.8242139

>>8242131
Why leave when my mere presence elicits such an amusing response? Do you go "Oh wow, this movie's awesome! I'm leaving!"

I think I already know the answer to that.

>> No.8242140 [DELETED] 

>>8242121
It feels terrible. The stupid autistic (sorry, I Know that word's overused) 4chan mindset creeps into everything. When other people find something funny in the back of my head I'm always thinking, "Oh hurr durr what a funny joke so funny guys epic lulz!" Then when other people do the same thing I get all meta and I think, "Oh haha because you 'ironically' hated the joke and were autistic about it!" In the end I fall into an autismal loop of not being able to enjoy anything ever no matter how good, bad, original, cliche, witty, lame, or whatever it is.

>> No.8242142

>>8242133

This explain everything.>>8242128

>> No.8242145
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Well, better late than never. Even Duke Nukem Forever got released. Might have a lukewarm impact, but who cares, at least it's not vaporware anymore.

>> No.8242148

>>8242117
>banished to this shithole.
You really must not remember how the post-split boards were like.

>> No.8242150

>>8242137
>>8242139
Okay I'm not a regular on /jp/ either but you guys a are fucking retards.

>> No.8242152

>>8242137
Please, do not use this argument. It is awful.

>> No.8242153

>>8242135

And you don't even get what he's trying to say.

>> No.8242154

Well, the shitposters have gotten into this thread. Abandon ship.

>> No.8242156

>>8242137

I have seen people on /jp/ make stuff more competent and entertaining than KS in little other a week or month. KS devs had all of these years to put their shit together and they still couldn't think of anything more than having a gimmick based around handicapped girls.

>> No.8242161

>>8242156

Give me some examples or you're just talking out of your ass.

>> No.8242162

>>8242128
Hahahaha but what's up with the clouds?

But seriously, /jp/ is at least offering criticism and being impartial to all this instead of behaving like an addicted monkey.

>> No.8242163

>>8242154

You're a funny, kid.

>> No.8242165

>>8242133
>by anons
but that's wrong

>> No.8242168

>>8242161
How about the dozens of translations?

>> No.8242170

>>8242128
Ah, man. It's been so long since I've seen that. And it's still true.

>> No.8242172 [DELETED] 

>>8242156
But that was the original idea from the start. It wasn't even theirs. It's not like they've spent decades of brainstorming to come up with the idea; it was the very foundation of the project to begin with.

>> No.8242173

>>8242162
>impartial

"Blindly hating" is not impartial.

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>>8242154
But they've been here since reply #2.

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>>8242124

>The autists.

You mean /v/ and /b/ came in. Nowadays this board is nothing but the forever alone bullshit of r9k merged in with retards from /v/. Only touhou threads remain strong the VN thread is almost never on the front page and replies in it are few and far between.

/a/ and /jp/ never should have split the split only caused idiots from other boards to come here and be elitist idiots.

>> No.8242177

>>8242156
>I have seen people on /jp/ make stuff more competent and entertaining than KS in little other a week or month.

Name one.

>> No.8242178

I'm sorry /jp/. I'm sorry for all this shit /a/ has thrown here.
I just want to have fun with you, I hope you enjoy this. I don't hate you guys.

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>>8242176
>2 posts
>of 8 million

If you're going to be autistic, do it right.

>> No.8242183

>>8242152

Why not? If he's criticizing the production values and empathizing the value of the product, I daresay if he can do better. It's appropriate enough of a response for that particular reason alone.

>> No.8242187

>>8242176
More like the split sent a ton of elitist idiots to here.

/jp/'s morons are all homegrown.

>> No.8242190

>>8242162
Basically, it says that /a/ thinks /jp/ is angry at the prospect of KS shitting up the place, but in reality, /jp/ doesn't really care, and is just enjoying the shitstorm.

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>>8242128
true, /jp/ is still only two guys samefagging

>> No.8242192

>>8242190
>/jp/ dosn't care.

Hahahahahaha that's funny.

>> No.8242194

>>8242168

Translations =/= making original content.

It's a matter of difference of what both focuses on in terms of work and what they have in common is the entertainment.

>> No.8242195

>>8242190
Of course the irony is that the situation is reversed.

>> No.8242196

>>8242137
Yup. It's not that hard. Don't be so new.

The hardest part of an amateur VN is usually the art, or finding an artist that is capable as well as neither lazy or an egomaniac.

>> No.8242198 [DELETED] 

>>8242173
You know who else blindly hates things?
Lilly.

>> No.8242203

>>8241652
>Can't wait to pick apart the writing, art, and music.
>Implying you have any ability to critque these things and aren't a talentless hack.

>> No.8242208

>>8242192
Remember, the comic was made years ago, and only applies to pre-split /jp/ers.

>> No.8242209

>>8242196
So where's your large VN with plenty of art, GCs, and music?

>> No.8242213

>>8242204
Quality post. How are you liking it here? Much better than your old /b/ home, right?

>> No.8242215

>>8242198
Ah, cripple puns. How I missed you.

>> No.8242216

>>8242198
I thought she had a less nasty personality.

>> No.8242218

>>8242204
>Do you guys wonder what the KS devs could have accomplished if they actually had talent?

Katawa Shoujo?

>> No.8242219

>>8242204
I don't, at least not yet.
You should try to stay a little more open-minded about the thing. The demo revolved around the premise because that's what the hook was.

In the best case, you come for the cripples and stay for the rest.

>> No.8242220

>>8242196

Go ahead. Prove me wrong if you're so keen on saying that it's easy. Where's that other VN that /jp/ made that had as much as, if not more success and quality than KS?

>> No.8242221

This thread is funny. You guys are funny.

>> No.8242224

>>8242209
Dandy Girl
Dusk
Shock Cocoon

Nah, I'm just messing with you.

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>> No.8242228

>>8242128
This shit is spot on.

>> No.8242232 [DELETED] 

>>8242220
a bag of shit taht /jp/ made is beter tahn this

Note: the above post contains layers of irony you cannot even begin to comprehend.

>> No.8242233

>>8242156

Well, guess what. They don't work together in a cramped office, but are scattered around the world with the internet as the only point of communication. And it's not a small project like the other doujin games, it's huge (wordcount is around 500.000, if I remember correctly) Do you know how hard it is to work under such conditions? Ever wondered why it takes so much fucking time to simply translate a VN? Now you know it.

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>> No.8242238
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It's just a VN! Get over it!

>> No.8242241

>>8242195

The irony is that you guys are butthurt enough to come here to shitpost, some daily even.

>> No.8242242
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>>8242241
That's not what "butthurt" means.

>> No.8242248

>>8242241
/jp/ breeds their own shitposters
We're not fun enough for others to shitpost with all our saging and elautism.

>> No.8242258

>>8242248
I thought /jp/ was one of the few boards who understood sage?

>> No.8242262

What's funny about irony and shitposting is that iron is what makes shit brown.

One major component of blood cells is iron, which is used to transport oxygen. Dead blood cells are pooped out. The brown color is sort of like rusted iron from your blood.

And rusting is an oxidization-reduction reaction, which you could say is like fire. And what is steel but iron and carbon?

Steel is your body, and fire is your blood.

>> No.8242263

>>8242258
Exactly.

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>> No.8242275 [DELETED] 

>>8242262
UNLIMITED SHIT WORKS

>> No.8242276

>>8242268
This would be a moving picture if it didn't have a panty shot.

>> No.8242282

>>8242262
That was actually sort of funny, I'll admit.

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>>8242262
>And rusting is an oxidization-reduction reaction, which you could say is like fire

>> No.8242294

>>8242262
>oxidization-reduction reaction, which you could say is like fire
What?

>> No.8242297

>>8242262
I'm made of atoms, which contain moving electrons so I AM MADE OF ELECTRICITY

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>>8242297
Yes you are, Anonymous. And don't let anyone ever tell you otherwise!

>> No.8242305

>>8242276
Can't be helped, it is from the fetish eroge that wasn't made for the "ero is holding back eroge" crowd.

>> No.8242310

I'm guessing the reasoning being forced as fuck is part of the joke. Don't quote me on that tho

>> No.8242325

>>8242297
>I'm made of atoms, which contain moving electrons so I AM MADE OF ELECTRICITY

Why the fuck did I laugh so hard?

>> No.8242334

>>8242319

Not the point, retard.

>> No.8242362

I'll play it. If it sucks then whatever. Not seeing the big deal here.

>> No.8242369

>>8242354

>>8242334

>> No.8242374

>>8242319
>You're absolutely right. Get these clearly hardworking, determined and talented folks the praise they so rightfully deserve for turning 500,000 words into a shitty and boring VN.
>>8242354
>Awesome. A bunch of people from all corners of the world put together a VN. What a success story.

That's not the point of the game or its popularity.

>> No.8242376

>>8242362

Apparently I can praise them for gathering so much attention for a western release but I can't criticize them for making a shitty VN despite having read through it.

>> No.8242400 [DELETED] 

>>8242374
Who are you quoting?

No really. Did the mod just ban a bunch of people or something? Stop deleting everyone's posts, mods! it's confusing!

>> No.8242401

>>8242209
>>8242220
How about we start with you proving that KS is actually good and above par for an amateur game. The quantity of the work doesn't improve the product if the quality is pretty much shit throughout.

They could have achieved the same effect with a single year and been less obnoxious about it all.

>> No.8242407

>>8242376

Still not the point. My, how autism ridden can you get? It's not about the quality of the VN (which is unknown at this point - yes, you can't know if it's good). Read my original post once more and maybe you'll get what I say.

>> No.8242410 [DELETED] 

>>8242401
Not that guy, but I like the art and music. Plus the idea/story could be fun, we'll have to wait and see.

Though to be honest I haven't followed the threads or development so I don't know what the staff are like. All I know is what little I've seen, read, watched, and listened to.

>> No.8242411

Why is everyone talking about KS like they've already read it?
If anything, you've only read the demo, with its Act 1 "endings".

If you have already read it, get out KSdevs.

>> No.8242419

>>8242400
I think it was the guy himself who deleted them.

>> No.8242422

>>8242411

The demo was pretty horrible, that's my reason for not liking it so far.

>>8242407

Alright, it's a large VN, they are working around the world through the internet on it and the workload must be immense. Perhaps you can drive your point?

>> No.8242430

>>8242410

The music was good I guess but I never got around to appreciating the art, characters and all that. This seems to be very different for a lot of people.

>> No.8242435

>>8242410
Obviously you're free to like what you like. But it isn't really /jp/ related and when compared with other OELVN it's one of many in a sea of mediocrity. It doesn't require a thread for discussion, and the arguments rabidly defending it and the KS Devs are more redundant than usual.

>> No.8242450

>>8242422
>Perhaps you can drive your point?

Point is that you can't make a huge project like this under such conditions in a shorter period of time. So your criticism about the amount of time they needed is stupid. Especially on a board who never did something.

>> No.8242507

>>8241854
Instead of a fetish nukige, we are getting a generic vanilla sex.
No thank you. I can play DC or other tons of generic romantic high school romance vn out there.
The project started out as a sick fetish eroge, no idea where the normalfags devs that took over the project came from.
I bet they wont be any diaper scene, eye socket fuck or other fetishes.

>> No.8242525

People only wanted this to be a game for the fetishes, now that it's been confirmed there isn't going to be anything other than generic sex, people have been letdown.

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>>8242507
>>8242525

>> No.8242541

>>8242507
You can blame the female artists and writers that are too prideful.

>> No.8242548

>>8242525

Seriously, this. This describes all of the hype that has been leading up it's releases and nothing else.

>> No.8242590

>>8242450
Actually /jp/ did quite a few things.

You're also making pretty baseless assumptions about the development of KS. Lets say you wrote a part of it every single day for five years, you come out to about roughly 281 words a day, which is doable for even a retard.
If you did some game art, like one unique piece per weekend you would have 260 unique art assets with some variations. That seems pretty reasonable.
Next if you worked on a track each month you would have a sountrack of 60 different tracks in that time period.
Programming and GUI really shouldn't be more than a months work, unless you made it completely from scratch with something like primitives in OpenGL, then I can imagine taking two or three months to program a millionth variation of a rather basic "game" engine.
So there are what, 17 staff members... Lets round it off to 15, then give them each an hour a day to work on their respective tasks. After five years they would have worked 26,700 hours total, which is roughly 3 years for a single person constantly working without sleep.
But that is only the case with the premise that the work on KS is a great achievement as it seems to be claimed.

There really isn't a way to quantify the effort and man-hours in such a was to give a satisfactory representation of the quality of KS. Most eroge companies are extremely small so on the premise that KS is good and KS Devs produce good work, it's fair to assume that their game is comparable to the very best VN you can find, which it isn't.

>> No.8242634

You know they they said, last year, it was going to be released in early 2011, right? I believe it was like Jan. 10 or something. Then they moved it to April.

Then they left us in the dark. Or maybe I stopped caring. I forgot what came first.

Oh, but not to forget, before the early 2011 announcement, they said they might be able to get it out late 2010, perhaps right before the new year.

>> No.8242646

>>8242590
See, the thing is that the devs probably have lives, and that no one gets paid for anything. And when no one is paid, they're working by motivation alone.

>> No.8242678

>>8242646
I know two KS devs and neither one has a life.
So this is probably not the case.

>> No.8242680

>>8242646
So just like translators, but with more of them to a project, fewer skills required, and slower than most.
Let's throw them a fucking parade.

>> No.8242681

>>8242646
>they're working by motivation alone.
Considering it's been 5 years, they must've not been very motivated.

>> No.8242688

>>8242678
Well, I'll put it this way. In a perfect world where everyone is putting their 100% effort into production speed, such estimates MIGHT be reasonable.
This is far from a perfect world.

>> No.8242718

Let's just end this shit right now because I have a feeling bans are going to be thrown out for shitposting. The KS devs did an excellent job drawing wide attention to their VN and it will probably prove to be one of the most popular VN's in the West.

However after five years of development and mixed feelings about the demo many are worried about how it will turn out in the end.

>> No.8242719

>>8242646
You still can't really come up with the loss in estimated production. 1 hour per day, or 7 hours for a week which can be done in one go on a Sunday, maybe even one weekend per month, or 5 hours a day for several months. Even at half of that it doesn't add up.

Of course they have enough time to post in forums, toot their own trumpets, and attend conventions to distribute their gamedemo. But we don't care about that, nor is it what you might call an achievement. So the point stands that it's an over-hyped OELVN made by a bunch of lazy hipsters.

Maybe if they didn't have lives they could have come up with something actually worth discussing.

>> No.8242733

>>8242688
An hour or two a day is now considered 100%?

>> No.8242745

>>8242719
You've failed to account for internal drama. I believe half of the dev team is unrelated to the original team. Still a fucking long time, though.

Not that the quality of it is at all relevant to people's excitement.

>> No.8242746

>>8242733
This is /jp/, we're lucky if we get an hour of work done in a month.

>> No.8242809

>>8242719
Not trying to defend the quality or anything like that. It's funny how negative /jp/ is about stuff. I think it's impossible to even try to estimate all the different kinds of work, fixes, rewrites, etc that goes into vn production. That, and you're relying on the motivation of your other teammates. Simple things may be delayed for weeks because someone else won't get their ass in gear. I've worked on small indie game projects before (lame rpgs and shit), and sometimes there's shit that could be done in ten minutes but takes a month because your faggot teammates keep fucking up, not showing up, or whatever. You talk about "drama" like star-struck old folk with a copy of People, but lengthy disagreements are par for the course in this kind of thing.

You all talk like you're some kind of enlightened counter-culture because you're not excited about some niche-popular game.

>> No.8242812

>shortly after the world ends in 2012.
Isn't the end of the world on December 21st, 2012?

If so how the fuck is this after the end of the world?

>> No.8242828 [DELETED] 

>>8242812
They'll find another way to delay it.

>> No.8242833

>>8242507
>The project started out as a sick fetish eroge

Nope. You are clearly new. Even in its beginnigns, the game started as a love/drama oriented VN. Gruesome fetishes were limited as jokes between the fandom.

I know because I was always lurking in the threads and forums when old /a/ was still around. Hell, even the tripfags back then were nice and translated porn for us.

>> No.8242834

>>8242809
>niche-popular
Care to take another swing at that? Maybe not string together two antithetical words this time.

>> No.8242852

>>8242834
"popular only in a subculture"?
That's all I got.

>> No.8242855

>>8242834
It's popular with a niche.

Like, say, black clothes are popular within the Goth niche.

>> No.8242881

As opposed to Sengoku Rance, right? Which had achieved such widespread adulation.

>> No.8242884

>>8242833
Erm no.
It started from raita fanarts.
People were excited by the kind of sex that can happened with disable girls.

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>>8242834
"Cult".

>> No.8242909

>>8242833
http://katawa-shoujo.com/sticky/

And you're proving wrong.

>> No.8242914 [DELETED] 

>>8242833
Why is it that everyone seems to think the internet wasn't "twisted" or "edgy" until THEY started browsing it?

>> No.8242917

>Hell, even the tripfags back then were nice and translated porn for us.

There have always been translating tripfriends, but the tripfriends were never nice.

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>>8242884
>>8242909
Did you not play the KS prototype?

I meant the actual project, not the assorted pieces of writefaggotry.

>> No.8243101

>>8242833
> translated porn for us
Remember Conan? I randomly got reminded of him the other day.

>> No.8243112

THEY FUCKING LIED SAYING IT WOULD BE RELEASED THIS YEAR

>> No.8243374

>>8243101
Aye, I do. Even Dan Kim liked him enough to do a fanart of him. Something along the lines of a loli being tsundere for him.

I also remember ShadowAimai, Fronzel and Humbert Humbert. I think I saw ShadowAimai a year ago in /d/ translating monstergirl porn.

>> No.8243432

>>8242909
if anything, the sticky proves him RIGHT.

The only mentions of fetishes in the thread are:
2-3 posts saying "dont make this a creepy fetish game"
and 1 of a someone actually saying they have a disability fetish.

The game was always intended to be a "Tsukihime" style eroge.

In fact, in the FIRST thread, they use that EXACT term.

>> No.8243435

>>8243112
It's four fucking days late, moves to coincide with the 5 year anniversary of the original thread.

give them a break.

>> No.8243441

I wonder: does this mean the game is complete? As in, do they have everything packed up and ready to upload, they're just sorting out the release drama for the next few weeks?

>> No.8243448

>>8243432
>Only one post asking for this to be a fetish game

This shows KS was supposed to be a sick fetish porn game exclusively how?

>> No.8243642

Just another generic VN with a gimmick that stops being relevant 15 minutes in. Surprise surprise.

>> No.8243974

>>8243441
Well, imagine this: 4chan is one obscenely large message board, with an even more massive userbase that downloads things like a motherfucker on a daily basis. If and when it happens the bandwidth usage of their site and whatever servers they decide to host the files will go to the clouds. I suppose they are preparing several ways for the files to be downloaded.

>> No.8243981

>>8243974
distributing to different mirrors, putting together seeds for torrent, etc.

Its still going to get raped.

>> No.8243982

>>8243974
If only there was some kind of file distribution system. Say... a site that you could upload a file remotely and then others could download it. Or wait, you know what would be even better? Some manner of distributed file sharing system that breaks large files into small ones and then spreads them out among peers. You'd need someone to, say... seed it originally.

What a world that would be.
Fucking retard.

>> No.8243984

>>8243981
Do you have any fucking idea how the internet works? Any at all?

>> No.8243990

>>8243984
Please impart your infinite knowledge upon me, kid

>> No.8244004

>>8243990
If you think a torrent can be raped from too much traffic, then you need to head back to Internet 101.

>> No.8244005

whats katawa shojo?

>> No.8244008

>>8244005
A miserable pile of overhyped mediocrity.

>> No.8244014

>>8244004
I was actually referring to the direct links actually.

However, the torrents will be slow for a while.

>> No.8244015

>>8243990
yeah, dude, thats the whole idea why torrents are used.

>> No.8244021

>>8244014
If you think this would even be a drop in the water for any big filesharing site, you're also retarded.

>> No.8244061

looks like a whole lot of mad in this thread.

I, for one, await the rin footjobs eagerly.

Will there be a kenji route?

>> No.8244097

get out ksdevs

>> No.8245682

>>8242809
>You all talk like you're some kind of enlightened counter-culture
>You all
Clearly you aren't from this board. I don't think any other argument is necessary because everyone that browses /jp/ regularly probably expects you and people like you to continue posting garbage.

For your actual argument, well... The premise of your argument is that you worked on some miscellaneous unnamed project with a bunch of retards. So now you have this profound understanding about which you propose cannot be quantified but is absolutely crucial to success. Furthermore this magical black box defines the level of achievement and deserved appreciation.

It's not rocket science, you know. You don't need to have worked in a ditch of shit to know that it's probably horrible. Drama on projects only serves to further confirm that the team are generally incompetent. As for something taking months when it could take ten minutes, that further establishes that fellow team members letting things go undone are just as pathetic.

Lastly the reason people don't talk nicely about a game might actually not be because they're trying to be edgy, but because the game is shit.

>> No.8245736

>>8245682
What? I never said anything about "deserved appreciation" or anything like that.

I just don't see the point of going around saying how things SHOULD have been done or how long things SHOULD take. There's also a strong vibe of "STOP GIVING PEOPLE CREDIT FOR MAKING SOMETHING" which is just silly.

Oh well, nice to see KS threads here haven't changed.

It's also funny how people talk about the supposed "drama" between the devs but never give an example of any outside of dudes being mad at each other sometimes (which happens when you actually get to know other people and work with them, crazy I know.)

>> No.8245751

>>8245682
>Drama on projects only serves to further confirm that the team is generally incompetent.
This isn't true. The most I'll admit is that contention within a group can hurt the finished product. Also, I admit I've never written a VN, but I can't point to anything in KS and say, "Yes, that should only have taken 10 minutes." Hyperbole isn't helping your argument.

>> No.8246133

>>8245736
Well if you don't discuss the quality of a product, and you don't discuss the the achievements, or how much appreciation is deserved... Pray tell why the fuck are you even bothering?
It's already been established that these incompetent retards deserve a round of applause for taking five years to finally win the special Olympics in making a mediocre porn game about disabled girls.
It's also isn't about how long it should take, but how long it could take if you weren't being an idiot during those five years. The "drama" was a proposed reason to explain away why they took so long over something so simple. I prefer to believe they didn't know what they were doing.

>>8245751
It was a rebuttal to that premise, being that things take longer because some people take months for ten minutes work. Therefore other members are equally incompetent for letting such a situation continue, or not being able to do it themselves. In which case the statement is actually true.

>> No.8246217

>>8244021
Take a look at the Homestuck fiasco of 10/25/2011
It took down Newgrounds and megaupload. and it was only a 56 MB file. how large is KS going to be?

>> No.8246223

>>8246217
Not as big as the hordes of F5 mashing MSPA zombies, really.

>> No.8246255

>>8246223
I meant the filesize, not how many people or whatever.

>> No.8246283

>>8246255
You don't think KS will fit on a hard drive?

>> No.8246321

>>8246283
oh god dammit you're doing this on purpose aren't you?
the server strain caused by the size of the file in such a way that it is equivalent to the 10/25 homestuck impact despite the smaller amount of people

>> No.8246527

>>8246321
I don't understand what you're getting at. The server is equivalent to an iPod on dial-up?

>> No.8246563

>>8246321
I'm not >>8246283, but your point is largely irrelevant. KS will probably be 10 times bigger than that, but you are crazy if you believe it will get 1/1000th of the attention a big MSPA update gets.

We are talking about a guy who gets 600 questions on Tumblr when he unlocks questions for some minutes. You really do not comprehend the magnitude of frenetic fanaticism Homestuck draws.

>> No.8247016

>KS Thread
>Talking about homestuck

What in the hell? I'm not on /co/, right?

>> No.8247050

>>8247016
Are you seriously suggesting that any board talks about or even likes its own topic? In fact they're probably having a mature, flameless discussion about KS on /co/ right now.

>> No.8247945

>>8247050
can someone verify this please? I don't want to risk going to this board and seeing something worse than what /jp/ is

>> No.8247957

>>8247945
Nope, no KS discussion. Just Adventure Time, Batman, Superman, Homestuck, and My Little Pony, as per usual.

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