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So, I just finished my first route in Little Busters!
It was Kurugaya's route. Honestly, it was sad.
Why is she so perfect? Also, LB! general?

>> No.8195770

I was expecting some discussion about this route for sometime now, but it seems Kurugaya isn't moe enough to make people create threads for her route.

Well, i must say that her normal ending wasn't very satisfying... Actually it wasn't satisfying at all.

The walkthrough "said" that there are few choices that do not appear in your first playthrough, however i did load from the supposed save, and still the choices didn't appear.

I'm i supposed to begin from the scratch?

(I really can't belive i managed to decipher part of that google translated walkthrough.)

Do those scenes change much?

If not i just got baddly disapointed.

Kurugaya's route, even if not a main heroine, felt anti-climatic and very short.

I'm quite skeptic about proceeding with this game right now...

>> No.8195804

Really, most of the characters' route were pretty lackluster, and it just didn't quite have that level of depth I was expecting

Kudo's was the most "romantic", in that there's actually bonding between her and Riki (maybe that's why we're getting a spin-off sequel for her...?) before we actually got to the her main story. Then...well...yeah
Komari's story was the most straightforward, for a straightforward character, I guess.
I did not understand Yuiko's story, period (warranting a replay).
Mio's story had potential, but I just couldn't quite get into it. Her backstory's reasoning just didn't seem believable at all.
Saya's route was definitely the most amusing character route, although the ending left me kinda lost (again, replay)
Rin's route was just a set up for the true route, so I don't really consider it a route

If I have to a route other than the true ending, then it's probably a combo of Haruka and Kanata's. I've always been rather fond of stories that involve sibling relationships and how they'll always look out for each other.

Favorite character is Kyousuke, hands-down.

>> No.8195802

Kurugaya route is a complete troll until you finish Refrain. Even then it's not near the best route. That's coming from a onee-sama/Tanaka Ryouko fan.

>> No.8195808

>general

Reported and reporting every single subsequent on-topic post.

>> No.8195812

Masato for best character, obv.

>> No.8195825

>>8195808
i got you covered

I'll report the off-topic ones

like yours

>> No.8195830

Any chance of EX! being translated?
Or at least the Memorial Edition?

>> No.8195832

>>8195830
They're already working on Sasami's route.

>> No.8195833

>>8195721
Kurugaya isn't very good and her route is one of the weakest ones in the game. Perhaps you should play the rest of the routes.

>> No.8195842

>>8195833
OP here, I'm thinking about going into Kud's next.
I honestly can't stand Haruka. So, I'm not exactly looking forward to her route.

>> No.8195851

>>8195842
Haruka is a cute girl don't be a bully.

>> No.8195858

>>8195721

http://tlwiki.tsukuru.info/index.php?title=LB!:Walkthrough#Little_Busters.21_Walkthrough

>KURUGAYA'S ROUTE: TRUE END
>Kurugaya's route has a true end, which also has a CG, that's unlocked after Refrain is completed. Play to the end of her route again and look for a new choice.

>> No.8195871

>>8195833
I was disappointed by her route as well. While the VN formula is seeing the personal side of a heroine during her route, I don't like it when pacing of the game changes dramatically upon entering a heroine's route. And as much as I liked Kurugaya in the shared part of the game, I didn't like her on her route. But don't assume that it's same for everyone, there are people that I know who likes it too.

You can't access her other ending at this point of the game, that will be after you finish the game.

And deciding not to play the rest of a game because you didn't like a single chapter in it's story wouldn't take you far. You didn't even start the 'extended dragging on KEY drama chapters' that I hate so much. But then again there are people who love those so much too...

>> No.8195882

>>8195842

It's pretty good, at least compared to shit like Komari and Kud route

>> No.8195891

Kurugaya seriously reminded me of Chihiro from Ef - A Tale of Memories

>> No.8195899

>>8195858
I'm looking forward to re-playing her route then.

>> No.8195908

I didn't like the sudden change of pace as well. It kind of killed my interest, not to mention it was confusing on certain parts of her route.
(I guess it would been better if they made Kurugaya have that disease that makes you forget about things that happened in a short time span, rather than have her and Riki in a dream world. Sure i know its related to future events to happen on future routes, right? I guess it wouldn't be bad for her to have one defects or two, and since she is a genius, you can use that as a starting point to to create a motive to such disease.)

>> No.8195918

>>8195858

Crap, how long has that walkthrough been there?

>> No.8195919

>>8195908
So the common route shines so much brighter than the individual routes. oh well i heard Refrain was good.
Rin's route is what makes the game anyway.
Honestly, either her, or Saya.

>> No.8195931

>>8195918
I was able to find it using such words on Google:
"Little Busters" "Walkthough" "English"

>> No.8195945

>>8195919
>So the common route shines so much brighter than the individual routes.
Keep in mind there are multiple writers and not all the routes are done by the same people, so there will be varying quality.

>> No.8195951

>>8195931

That didn't answer my question. I've been using a japanese one because for a long time there wasn't one in english.

>> No.8195959

The English patch should be coming out soon anyway...
>HAR HAR HAR IT COMES OUT NEXT YEAR.
Honestly, are all they working on now is word wrap, and fixing the mess of connecting the words together?

>> No.8195965

>>8195951
>That didn't answer my question.
There is a history button on the top of the page and you can see when it was made.

>> No.8195980

>>8195965

You still didn't answer my question. Fuck you.

>> No.8195991

>>8195965
Since about May if you look under the "History" tab.
Doesn't look like #fluffy isn't putting much publicity into that page.

>> No.8196014

The individual routes sucked (except Saya’s route). They were all the usual Key storyline, and they weren’t that exciting. The comedy and the friendly atmosphere were the good part of the game, and the story just got boring once it started getting serious. The after story focused more on friendship than romance, which is a good or a bad thing depending on how you look at it, but I personally liked it.

>> No.8196025

>>8196014
>The comedy and the friendly atmosphere were the good part of the game, and the story just got boring once it started getting serious.
It's a nakige, not a bakage for baka like you. And Refrain is the best route in the game and is also quite serious.

>> No.8196083

In during massive opinions..

Rin > Saya > Kudo = Sasami > Mio > Haruka > Komari > Yuiko > Kanata

Based on character and route quality. Saya would've been #1 if the last 15 minutes of her route weren't such an asspull.

>> No.8196109

>>8196083
I like Yuiko the most, my type of women.

>> No.8196122

How can you guys not like Yuiko the most is beyond me, shes the only character that was interesting.

>> No.8196130

>>8196122
She's not bad, but she's just not my type of character, personally.

>> No.8196150

>>8196122
I'm not into Onee-san type characters, or girls with long black hair that carry around swords, etc. Just not my type.

>> No.8196148

I think /jp/ just doesn't like complex older characters like Kurugaya. Shes not normal by any means and is hard to understand if your not like her.

>> No.8196174

>>8196150
But why? I mean Onee-san characters are easier to talk too, are more open about sexual stuff and dont mind boyish nature, are more tomboyish and playful and dont get boring if they are the crazy Onee-san type who appear more complex or out thinking.

>> No.8196198

>>8196174
The perception of them having more sexual experience is probably the biggest reason. Also, we're insecure and don't like our waifus to be better than us at everything.

>> No.8196214

>>8196198
Wouldn't them having more experience in life/etc be more helpful to insecure people like us in general?
And who said they have sexual experience? most
Onee-san type characters are just more open to sex, doesn't mean they had it.

>> No.8196215

>>8196174
>are more open about sexual stuff
Is this supposed to be a plus?

>> No.8196228

>>8196214
That might be how you interpret it, but it's not how we do. We don't like them because they don't make us feel good like lolis do.

Also, they lack DFCs. This is important.

>> No.8196241

>>8196215
yes, its more fun without drama and you can be open with yourself more and with your fetishes. you can do things with her that you wouldn't be able to other women because they wouldn't be as open. you can both wacth porn and jack each other off and shit. I really dont get how you can hate Onee-san characters like yuiko. I would rather have a more open and true person than a more closed person. I want to actually have fun with my waifus.

>> No.8196265

>>8196241
It's more fun corrupting an innocent girl than lavishing in mutual corruption with a girl who's already experienced.

>> No.8196267

>>8196241
>you can be open with yourself more and with your fetishes. you can do things with her that you wouldn't be able to other women because they wouldn't be as open. you can both wacth porn and jack each other off and shit.
What the heck does any of this have to do with Little Busters? None of this ever happens. This just sounds like your own fantasy.

And personally, I have no interest in sex so I don't see why I should care about anything like that. If you like older girl characters then that's cool (are you that same crazy anon always on about 'mature' ladies?) but I only like same age or younger.

>> No.8196274

>>8196241
Also she would be more understanding and wouldn't mind your hobbies and shit.While your "perfect girls/lolis wouldnt understand you at all or your world.

>> No.8196279

>>8196265
No, its not.
I would rather have a mature women playing with me and having fun than some loli making you do everything and making a big fucking deal out of sex.

>> No.8196308

>>8196267
Its not just about sex, its about how more mature characters are just more open and understanding in general. They wouldn't mind things with sex in them or playing a video game with you. while you wouldn't be able to do that with a loli and younger girls would look at you weird. Mature/Onee-san archetypes in vns/anime/whatever tend to be just more understanding and open and more fun to be around. I still cant see why they aren't as popular. you can actually be yourself with them, instead of putting on some show as being some shitty white knight.

>> No.8196309

>>8196279
And that's the difference between us. I get turned on by the circumstances surrounding sex that make it special, humiliating, painful, amazing, or disgusting. The physical sex act itself doesn't interest me. Taking a girl's first is incredibly alluring. Fucking the same girl that 14 other men have fucked, a girl who will forget you and never think of you again if you break up, I can't even get it up for that. Even if the character isn't actually a slut to that extent, the greater sexual experience triggers those feelings.

>> No.8196326

>>8196309
Sex is sex
And just because she has had sex before doesn't mean anything about how she remembers you or how she loves you. Im sure a more mature women would understand love more than some little girl who will break up with you in two weeks because she started to find out your true self without your date face on.

>> No.8196352

>>8196308
>its about how more mature characters are just more open and understanding in general.
I think you are crazy and generalising. A girl is not going to be more understanding of me, or wanting to play video games and stuff with me, or whatever just because she is older. Do you really think a character like Kudo or something would not want to play games with me, or would judge me and my hobbies? Come on. This isn't 3D we're talking about. This is Little Busters.

And regardless, Kurugaya is technically the same age as most of the cast. She just acts like an Onee-san.

>you can actually be yourself with them, instead of putting on some show as being some shitty white knight.
What are you even talking about?

You probably just have a mother complex or something.

>> No.8196360

>>8196326
Young girls get clingy after the first time. Older girls would be the ones with the confidence to break up with you when they found out they didn't like you.

And no, sex is not just sex. It's about power, novelty, shame, and a million other things. There's a reason men with wives they can fuck every night will still cheat.

>> No.8196377

>>8196352
Im not talking about real life for the most part, im talking about the Mature/Onee-san archetypes in vns/anime/manga. They tend to me more perverted and open with a lot of nerdy and sexual stuff and tend to act tomboyish. I like that more than the same old soulless loli with the white knight mc who doesn't act like a real man at all.

>>8196360
Well to me, sex is just sex, nothing more.

>> No.8196390

>>8196377
>They tend to me more perverted and open with a lot of nerdy and sexual stuff and tend to act tomboyish.
There are plenty of characters that are not Onee-san that act like that.

>I like that more than the same old soulless loli with the white knight mc who doesn't act like a real man at all.
Geeze did you have some traumatic experience with a young girl in the past or something?

>> No.8196403

>>8196390
No, loli/young girls are just fucking boring,overused and took over the fucking character medium after the 1980s. Im fucking tired of watching/reading shit about high school and slice of life with 15 year olds. its fucking boring and got old a fucking long time ago. Why cant they just fucking move on to college days or a slice of life in a business office, or just fucking characters older than 19.

>> No.8196408

Oh god the guy who wants to do his mother invades another thread.

>> No.8196411

>>8196403
They do have shows with older characters/college settings. The majority of the market does not think weirdly like you though so the majority of stuff will not feature old ladies.

>> No.8196423

>>8196408
I never said i wanna do my mother, i just like mature women and hate how they are shafted in the anime/vn medium. I like older main characters as well, they are more interesting and have more back stories than just "Im a normal Japanese student going to this high school" shit.

>>8196411
I really dont see how the Japanese can even watch the same shit over and over again. They didn't have that taste for the most part in the 80s, even though mostly everything was space plot based, at least the market didn't control how old the characters had to fucking be. Right now its unlimited 15 year old school problem works, i dont give a fuck about 15 year olds in school. I want more than that.

>> No.8196431

>>8196423
What's the use of complaining to us about it? We don't care and can't do a damn thing about it anyway.

>> No.8196433

>>8196423
The target demographic must be 15.
Don't get angry about it, just don't read it. It's obviously not meant for you.

>> No.8196435

>>8196423
The shows are shounen for a reason. They are not made for mature older men.

>> No.8196438

MILF guy, please learn japanese for your own sake

There are a metric fucktonne of eroge/nukige with milfs / OLs that aren't translated.


If you know japanese, then well shit

>> No.8196441

>>8196431
I just want you guys to understand were im coming from, you guys just dont understand me. I feel like maybe /m/ might for the most part, but i mostly stay here.
>>8196433
Thats retarded, thats like saying in order for 15 years olds to like a book, all the characters have to be 15 and it has to be set in highschool.

>>8196435
Its fucking everything though, what the fuck happened to all the 80s Otaku, what do they even think of all this? they should be raging.

>> No.8196442

>>8196441
>what the fuck happened to all the 80s Otaku
The 80s otaku? Do you really think most of them are still otaku? You're kidding right?

>> No.8196448

>>8196438
Any good eroge thats set in college with a group of friends in a dorm room? Just chilling and playing video games and such?
>>8196442
What? Its not like they are just gonna give up on everything, i mean maybe they did once the market shifted to 15 year olds. I mean why the fuck are 18+ eroge even aimed at highschool anyway, shouldn't it be for the older Otaku?

>> No.8196449

>>8196441
I'm sure they're not raging since all the popular 80s series had teenage casts.

>> No.8196453

>>8196441
>I just want you guys to understand were im coming from
You are a crazy person. You don't seem to understand this. You are obsessed with a number. So what if the characters are 15 or 16 or 17 or whatever? Do you really think their personalities and stuff would be different if they were 20, 21, or 22? They are fictional characters. The age number means nothing. Look at a game like Dream Club. All of the characters are 20+ but most of them don't act any more mature for it.

>> No.8196457

>>8196448
>What? Its not like they are just gonna give up on everything
They would be like 40+ now. Do you really think the majority of them are still watching the anime that airs each season?

>> No.8196459

>>8196453
> Do you really think their personalities and stuff would be different if they were 20, 21, or 22?
If the writers were decent, yes, since the personality changes quite a lot up until ~25 and continues to slowly change even beyond that. In fairly predictable ways, no less.

>> No.8196460

>>8196441
Look, I'm not big on high school settings either, but there's no denying the bittersweetness of young love. The naïveté of youth is great when done right. Granted, they apply the shotgun theory to it, but the market is very geared to helping rejects vicariously live their lives. Of COURSE that shit will dominate. It doesn't help that school days are the closest thing to normalcy a social reject can get.

>> No.8196461

>>8196435
did you even watch any 80s shows? most where in their 20s.

>>8196453
you dont understand shit, your only happy because you have your loli archetypes shit spammed at you. Yes, it is all about age you dum fuck. the older you get, the more mature you get and also the more wise you get. Which makes better characters in a story instead of dumfuck teenagers.

>> No.8196464

>>8196461
>dum
I'm done with you.

>> No.8196468

>>8196461
You seem like a dumbfuck yourself, dear. It'd be nice if you'd stop posting.

>> No.8196467 [DELETED] 

>>8196459
>your only happy because you have your loli archetypes
Yes. All my 16, 17, 18 year old lolis.
> the older you get, the more mature you get and also the more wise you get. Which makes better characters
You're right. All the heroines should be 80+. They would be the most mature and wise and therefore the best.

>> No.8196469

>>8196461
>your only happy because you have your loli archetypes
Yes. All my 16, 17, 18 year old lolis.
> the older you get, the more mature you get and also the more wise you get. Which makes better characters
You're right. All the heroines should be 80+. They would be the most mature and wise and therefore the best.

>> No.8196474

>>8196460
Young love is boring and its always the same.
>>8196467
>>8196468
Go have fun with your mass produced loli high school shit. Maybe one day this shit will go away.

>> No.8196475

>>8196469
>All the heroines should be 80+

Oh fuck why haven't I seen this yet. It could even take place in an old folks home

>> No.8196482

You guys will never understand how i feel, all i want are more stories with mature characters or a mature love story with a bit more complex characters. But i will never get it. The Mature archtype will always be shafted or always will be a joke in vns or anime. you know when the mc always gets interrupted when hes with that mature sexy women in EVERY meduim? I want to fucking bash my head in whenever i see that in a anime or vn.

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>>8196474
>loli high school

>> No.8196484

>>8196474
Maybe you should start looking for a new hobby instead.

>> No.8196485

>>8196482
> I want to fucking bash my head in
I wish you would ;_;

>> No.8196490

>>8196485
Go fuck yourself.

>> No.8196491

>>8196482
Are you not a native English speaker, or are you too young to even be here? Your spelling and grammar are atrocious.

>> No.8196501

>>8196482
If you want a mature love story, you're going to have to try something besides the high school setting. SOMETIMES you get complex heroines in there, but it's kind of rare. If you really want a real adult romance though you're going to need to be reading something with an adult protagonist.

>> No.8196508
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8196508

You fucks have it made easy, being able to live with the archetypes be used as main characters over and over again. I just want a love story with a older mature women or multiple mature women. Its just not fucking far, why are the Japanese so fucking hive mind anyway. Why are the archetypes always used in the same fucking way, the older/mature women has to always be a side character or shafted no matter what even if she is more interesting than the whole cast.

>> No.8196516

>>8196501
But thats all the fucking Japanese do now, i mean even in vns you cant find one.

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>>8196508
If only we lived in Japan during the 90s,right?

>> No.8196524

>>8196508
I don't think old ladies can feel love. Their hearts have withered.

>> No.8196529

>>8196518
The 90s were almost just as bad, they at least had different types of settings and different ages of main characters in each anime. It wasn't the same fucking shit over and over again. The 80s were better at characterization though by a mile.

>>8196524
A lot more than soulless lolis with no feeling or complexity at all.

>> No.8196530

>>8196508
>>8196482
MILF guy, your determination is truly inspiring.

>> No.8196534

>>8196529
>A lot more than soulless lolis
I like how in your mind there are only lolis and old ladies, with nothing in between.

>> No.8196536

>>8196534
When i mean lolis i mean the 15-18 year olds as well, in anime ages from 10-19 are the same.

>> No.8196539

>>8196534
his definition of loli is anyone that isn't an old hag.

>> No.8196543

Arguing opinions. Why?

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>>8196530
I wont give up until you understand my passion and the beauty/ complexity of mature women and also having them as main characters. I am fucking done of them being shafted and treated as side characters or not important in anime and also even in vns , they fucking dont give them a route but give them one sex scene to throw at us. It fucking makes me mad enough too blow up the universe.

>> No.8196548

きょうううううすけえええええええええ
茶番だあああああああああああああああああああああああ

fuck yeah that was so fucking awesome.

Most adorable character is Sasami (Rin a close second) although the story is recycled from every other key game. Saya route is hilarious but the ending is just too sad.

>> No.8196558

>>8196545
>complexity of mature women
What complexity? You seem to only be interested in a generic stereotypical old lady.
> I am fucking done of them being shafted and treated as side characters
Ok? There is nothing you can do about it. So deal with it.

>they fucking dont give them a route
There are games with old ladies that have routes. Maybe you should study Japanese to play the plethora of titles out there. Otherwise I call your 'passion' into doubt.

>It fucking makes me mad enough too blow up the universe.
Alright, I laughed.

>> No.8196562

>>8196548
Yea, that ranked as one of fans favourite Key lines. It was pretty good.
>Most adorable character is Sasami
She was definitely cute. I wish she had a better route though.

>> No.8196568

OP is a pretty cool guy

>> No.8196578

>>8196562
She had a route?

>> No.8196586

>>8196578
Ecstasy

>> No.8196593

>>8196586
Ah. So won't be translated for quite some time if ever, then... Ah well.

>> No.8196602

>>8196568
Sup OP or OP's friend!

>> No.8196645

>>8196562
I don't understand why people don't like Sasami's route. It was one of the best in the game since it actually made sense and never resorted to keyaids or asspulls like most of the game did.

>> No.8196668

>>8196645
It's kind of hard for me to remember all the details I didn't like considering it's been a while since I played. But I did not like the romantic development between the Riki and Sasasegawa Sasami at all. The love Saya had for Riki felt way more real then Sasami's and you get to see it develop more.

Sasasegawa Sasami's route was just some weird side story about a cat, and even having her turn into a cat (which was retarded and completely gimmicky). And it seemed absurd to me that her single dying cat created it's own little world like Kyousuke and crew had. The sex and confession at the end of the route felt horribly out of place too. What can I expect though, Tonokawa is a pretty weak writer.

>> No.8196701

>>8196668
Eh, I'll admit the romantic development wasn't as good as Rin/Saya (none of the other routes really are, and you can tell the ero was added after the fact). It was just a much more pleasant route, though, and the climax with Bye-bye, mama was one of my favorite parts of the game. And I mean, her turning into a cat could stretch your suspension of disbelief, but I like it a lot more because the parts where you have to suspend your disbelief in Sasami's route are at the beginning rather than used at the end to bring about a conclusion, the latter of which is what usually happens in Key games.

But yeah, I somewhat agree with your points. Sasami's route would honestly have been better WITHOUT Riki. It should've just been a story about Sasami and the cat.

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>> No.8197748

you guys are talking about how you dont like the crazy weird keyaid routes, yet your reading a key game. yuikos route was good because it had that weird story line, instead of typical bullshit any other eroge can have.

>> No.8197770

I enjoyed Kurugaya's route a lot.
You don't even know what's going on and then in refrain you jsut find out the reason it was like that.
But I liked her as a character, so that helped.
Mio's route was like that but at least made more... sense, Kurugaya needed her true end and the rest of the novel to be more normal.

>> No.8197799

So, is there any recommended play order?

>> No.8197973

>>8197799
It doesn't really matter. You play all the individual routes, Rin's route, then Refrain. It's kind of forced.

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