Why aren't you using a FOSS OS?

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Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:29:33 2011 No.8187835 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't you using a FOSS OS?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:30:03 2011 No.8187842 >*bsd enemy of your freedom >gnu hurd not dead i'm running debian tho also >>>/g/

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:32:02 2011 No.8187847 video juegos

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:33:03 2011 No.8187853 >>8187842 How is *BSD an enemy of your freedom? HURD is still being worked on and it's doing pretty well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:34:03 2011 No.8187855 >>8187847 But VNs and shmups run in WINE and MAME fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:36:04 2011 No.8187860 File: 1.98 MB, 2350x2198, raveenz_-_Debian_Lenny_OS-Tan.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I too am running Debian.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:39:04 2011 No.8187877
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>>8187853
> How is *BSD an enemy of your freedom?
rms says it is. Read through this thread for a few laughs:
http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119730630513821

It's a shame because I respect the guy's dedication, it's just stuff like this that shows how much of a disagreeable, extremist hypocrite he is.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:42:04 2011 No.8187891 >>8187842 >enemy of your freedom "Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien." -Voltaire

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:45:03 2011 No.8187903 >>8187855 I have found a few that don't run, and the ones that do run often have bugs. It's just better to play on Windows.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:45:03 2011 No.8187906

>>8187891
Speaking of Voltaire and things he never really said:
http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0410.3/1101.html
> To paraphrase Voltaire - "I may disagree with your choice of license, but
> I shall defend to the death your right to choose it". That goes for Larry,
> and for the BSD people and for all the people who write software for a
> living using some really nasty licenses.

I really, really wish more people thought this way. Groups like GNU are actually counter-productive sometimes because they emulate door-to-door pests.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:00:33 2011 No.8187966 >>8187903 Which ones are they?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:08:03 2011 No.8188002 >>8187966 I have found that VNs using CatSystem2 (Grisaia, Kamikaze Explorer) or Malie (Vermillion, Dies Irae) dont work at all in wine. But that is what VirtualBox is for.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:13:03 2011 No.8188017 >>8187966 Blue Eden (yaoi shota VN) wouldn't run at all for me. Also, when I try to run the Steam client, the window always jumps to the left side of the screen when I try to move it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:14:03 2011 No.8188020

>>8187877
He's an extremist, but I wouldn't say a hypocrite: that's him sticking to his principles to the extreme, not abandoning them.
For all that he is unshaven and unwashed and generally a non-Windows user, you can respect his zealotry even if you don't agree (or care).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:14:03 2011 No.8188024 >>8188002 Never played them. I'm just starting off with VNs (Saya and Inganock) and I'm switching away from Windows while wondering if shit will work. At least MAME is the same.

>>	Tokiko Sun Dec 4 13:14:34 2011 No.8188019 I use Slackware. While it's not totally FOSS, it's great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:16:03 2011 No.8188034 File: 215 KB, 640x480, gununu-syurelia.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't use an open source operating system because I like my operating systems fully functional, thank you very much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:21:03 2011 No.8188053 >>8188024 Kirikiri works so Saya should be fine, and Sharnoth kind of worked (loading a save with sound on crashed it, but if you loaded one with it off then turned it on after loading it would be fine) so Inganock should work as well.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:23:03 2011 No.8188062

>>8188020
Read the thread. Of course OpenBSD users are faggots who are all too happy to jump on a chance to flame rms, but some of them do make good points. For instance he claims it's unfair that OpenBSD unofficially facilitates installing non-free software easily through ports (which is not a part of the operating system proper), and yet GNU software has tens of thousands of lines of code to allow it to compile and run on proprietary systems like Windows and Solaris. They also provide binaries for Windows. I agree with him that teaching existing users of these systems about free software is a good thing, but I don't think it's fair for him to say it's okay to facilitate installing free software on a non-free system (thus perpetuating its use), but not to have one or two non-free packages on a free system (and that it somehow "taints" the whole system--despite not being a part of it).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:25:04 2011 No.8188072 >>8188034 I assume by posting a picture of Shurelia you're trying to be ironic.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 13:57:04 2011 No.8188201 >>8188062 Look up the AGPL. Faggotry turned to 11.

Tokiko !!N8e4rcIFhvl Sun Dec 4 14:03:03 2011 No.8188217

Make your weekend project installing Slackware Linux. (Download link here: http://www.slackware.com/getslack/))

If you use a laptop/need wifi, make sure to use the wicd package in the "extras" directory. I'd recommend installing it in VirtualBox first to get a feel for it / you don't want to ditch your current OS first, though. If you want to have multiple partitions, use a gParted or some other live CD to make a partition in advance. I'll be happy to help anyone that needs it. I consider myself to be an expert with the operating system. Trip's a one-time thing to fight against trolls.

I'm serious, I really do think that more people should use this great OS and I've donated money in the triple digits to the project. If you want to set up some kind of servers I can help with that, too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:06:03 2011 No.8188232 >>8188217 Sorry, but I'm already in love with FreeBSD.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:06:03 2011 No.8188233

>>8188217
Slackware is fantastic. If I was stuck on a desert island with a laptop and one distribution's set of CDs, it would be Slackware's.

However it's not ideal as a general purpose desktop OS any more. Manual dependency management has become almost impossible in the past ten years, and if you're going to use a helper script/program you might as well just use Debian.

The installer is still second to none, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:07:04 2011 No.8188237 I don't feel like learning how to use one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:07:33 2011 No.8188234 >>8188072 No, I'm making a profound statement about "moe moe" operating systems like Ubuntu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:08:03 2011 No.8188241 File: 13 KB, 480x89, moebuntu_logo480.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8188234 Moe? Ubuntu? http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/moethemes_eng.html

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:09:34 2011 No.8188243 File: 16 KB, 400x400, bc5f2ecd1632159286736eb77d44a2cd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Assumptions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:10:34 2011 No.8188246 >>8188241 I run moebuntu on my laptop, yes. If I want to actually do anything, though, I stick to my Windows machine.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:29:37 2011 No.8188294
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But I am.

>>8187877
Nice bending his words. Not recommending it is not the same as proclaiming it's an enemy of your freedom. He even says right there in your link he could recommend it to someone he knew wouldn't install any non-free software.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:39:39 2011 No.8188319 File: 132 KB, 1280x800, debian.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8188294 Thanks for posting that version of the picture for me!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:02:45 2011 No.8188376 File: 8 KB, 256x83, 1279149068495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8188319 Heh, my pleasure.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:18:09 2011 No.8189291 >>8188237 It's not like you're doing anything better with your time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 04:53:52 2011 No.8191730 Does Crimzon Clover work well in WINE?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 04:59:52 2011 No.8191745 I run Arch. /g/ hates it but it's working for me, so whatever. I have a Windows partition and VM, because some things just don't work in WINE.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 17:53:05 2011 No.8194252 File: 30 KB, 475x343, titus.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I HUNGER FOR YOUR DESKTOPS

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 17:57:35 2011 No.8194268 Do only I use the Gentoo on /jp/?

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 17:59:07 2011 No.8194279

I actually started out with Gentoo, since the documentation was so good I could learn along with the handbooks and an old textbook I had.
I completed the system from stage3 (yeah I know, nothing too fantastic), and it works just fine for anything I need, so even though I only intended it to be a project and uninstall, I ended up actually switching to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 17:59:07 2011 No.8194281 >>8191745 /g/ hates everything that's not Windows 7. They just pretend to like Linux.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 18:01:07 2011 No.8194287 >>8194281 This is actually true. New /g/ seems to believe Gentoo is a troll OS to waste time, when the actual intention was to install it, as after you're done you've probably figured out what the problems you were having were.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 18:07:06 2011 No.8194316 >>8194287 /g/ is a shithole now. I left about a year and a half ago. Nothing left but shitposters and tripfags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 19:36:39 2011 No.8194784 File: 95 KB, 311x837, 1290524960768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8194316 When was /g/ not a shithole?

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:14:11 2011 No.8195241

>>8194784
Right when it was created and when people posted techloligy (since guro was being cracked down on) to get rid of faggots.

Albeit there were a couple browser and OS wars, but at least it was much better than the dawn of the RIGZ and TEEDUS threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:15:12 2011 No.8195245 >>8194281 That's not true. At least not in desktop threads.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:20:41 2011 No.8195272 My X200 tablet is coming in the mail soon, and I don't play games. Are the moon and stars in the right position for Linux?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:24:41 2011 No.8195285 >>8195272 >Tablet Don't count on it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 21:27:41 2011 No.8195303 >>8195272 Nothing stops you from trying. It's not like you can reinstall Windows later if things go hairy, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:00:41 2011 No.8195457 >>8195272 http://www.linlap.com/wiki/lenovo+thinkpad+x200

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:05:43 2011 No.8195487 Because I play videogames cery often, and Linux distros have 0 gaming support.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:06:43 2011 No.8195489 >>8195303 Exactly. I'll tinker a bit and see what happens. Maybe it's time to try out Windows 8 too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:07:43 2011 No.8195498 File: 88 KB, 640x480, frozen-bubble2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8195487 Modern Linux distributions have plenty of high quality games, such as: * Neverball * NetHack * Extreme Tux Racer * Frozen Bubble * Hunt the Wumpus And many more!

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:45:44 2011 No.8195742
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>>8195487
"0 gaming support" is a bit too harsh. An increasing number of games have Linux support, including any Humble Bundle game. But if one's primary use of a computer is playing games, then yeah, better stick to Windows.

WINE tends to work fine for Touhou and visual novels, though, so that should cover /jp/'s gaming needs just fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:47:43 2011 No.8195755 Because I use Mac OSX

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:48:43 2011 No.8195760 >>8195755 FAGGOT

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 22:55:45 2011 No.8195792 >>8195760 shh, don't call attention to it. I'm trying to blend in.

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