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Ar Tonelico / Atelier / GUST General Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Sat Dec 3 07:07:52 2011 No.8182580 [Reply] [Original]

"Spring 2012 = Season of the bleeding wallets" Edition

Previous Thread:
>>8115104

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

Note: Newer emulator downloads than what is in the lazy pack can be found here: http://pcsx2.net/downloads.php

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using a new version (0.9.7+) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation can be found on the top of this page:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere
April Fools TKS:
http://www.mediafire.com/?avpff50jo843a52

AT Visual Book:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/ar-tonelico-visual-book-in-stores-now/
Atelier Official Chronicle:
http://www.udonentertainment.com/blog/udon/books/atelier/

AT2 Flash Cosmosphere:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/
Offline Version:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hpr7840pbe1wf7d

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Sat Dec 3 07:08:22 2011 No.8182584
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Lossless albums:
Ar tonelico Music Collection Torrent: http://www.bakabt.com/153236-ar-tonelico-music-collection.html
All tracks are encoded in FLAC format and include scans of covers and booklets. Torrent does not include AT3's Drama and Hymmnos Musical discs.

Alternative set of torrents:
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

CADENA ~Atelier Series Jazz Arrange Album Featuring Mami Horie Vol.1~
http://www.sonixgvn.net/2011/06/cadena-atelier-series-jazz-arrange.html

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Mediafire Folder of Ar tonelico goodies:
http://www.mediafire.com/?rddbnsio6dayi

Contents:
- AT1-3 OST, Hymmnos Concerts
- AT1-2 Drama CDs, Hymmnos Musicals
- Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ (Album)
- AT3 Artbook
- Offline AT2 Flash Cosmospheres
- AT3 Yokkora fan disc

* Original /jp/ content:
-- originspuke.jpg
-- Vectors of Install Points (.png and .svg)
-- Misc. Ar tonelico Vectors
-- No-fun-allowed Raki

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:08:51 2011 No.8182586 ATELIER TOTORI PLEASE MONEY ATELIER GAMESTOP TOTORI

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:13:22 2011 No.8182599 >>8182580 Why isn't there DLC for an endless game mode in totori? doesn't seem to be one for meruru either. Are we going to leave this gen without an endless mode where we can be the little girl forever?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:13:22 2011 No.8182600

>Tonelico has been criticized for being 'too easy' and not presenting much of a challenge. GameSpot said "There's no challenge whatsoever to the battles, constant use of overt sexual innuendo isn't the least bit clever or entertaining, and the courtship aspect of the game makes very little sense."

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Sat Dec 3 07:15:22 2011 No.8182606
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NISA Holiday Sale
www.nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=n&article=pbomb/PrinnyBomb_Vol184.html

Shikata Akiko Matsuri @ GUST Shop - until Jan 1st 2012
- Order a Shikata Akiko CD and receive a printed score of EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY
(No intl. shipping, requres you to use a proxy delivery service)
shop.salburg.com/product/sikata_fes_2011/

Upcoming releases:

Hyperdimenson Neptunia Mk. II - Feb. 24th 2012
t.co/uJo8njtM

Atelier Meruru - Spring 2012
http://www.nisamerica.com/index.php?nav=n&article=pbomb/PrinnyBomb_Vol179.html

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Sat Dec 3 07:26:21 2011 No.8182623
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>>8182606

wtf @ needing like 10 post attempts to set up the thread thanks to Capcha, CloudFlare and "YOU ARE TRYING TO POST SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ALLOWED, FUCK YOU".

>>8182599
Welcome to the harsh thing that is reality ... little girls don't stay little girls forever ;_;

Also: Can't wait for Neptunia Mk. II, dat Uni
Rorona: "UNIIIII~~~~~~" *throws uni*

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:39:52 2011 No.8182650 Get your Mimi avatars off of PSN. I can't wait to beat up people online with my Mimi avatar.

>>	Sudo !Tohsaka8ks Sat Dec 3 07:42:22 2011 No.8182653 >>8182650 Already got mine.

>>	PS Sat Dec 3 07:49:25 2011 No.8182665 We never get cool avatars in the Australian PSN store. It fucking sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:51:54 2011 No.8182669 Vampire Savior avatars 4 lyfe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:52:24 2011 No.8182672 File: 1.44 MB, 1397x2000, 031.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rorona's Cuderia is the best Cuderia.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 07:59:53 2011 No.8182697

What avatars are you all referring to?
All I play is Dark Souls though, so if this is an online thing I probably wouldn't know regardless.

Anywho: I have $100
Do I order a shikata album from salburg to get the handkerchief and Chronicle Key print or do I get Totori from NISA?

>>	Sudo !Tohsaka8ks Sat Dec 3 08:03:25 2011 No.8182706 File: 102 KB, 600x445, TotoriAvatars.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8182697 >What avatars are you all referring to? The week of 2/22 is going to be expensive for me with the PSV and Neptunia 2 coming out.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:07:54 2011 No.8182823

>>8181679

Why not make a free Japanese account and purchase the lowest amount of points available and grab the avatar(s)? That's pretty much what I do for my NISA games since they're American and my PSN account is UK/EU. Any stuff you download on your PS3, regardless of the account, is available on all of the other accounts whether they downloaded it or not.

>>8182706

I'm not sure about America but around February Europe is getting the MGS HD remake bundle, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Tales of Graces f, Neptunia 2 and Meruru. This is pretty much directly after Steam is done emptying my wallet too with their Christmas sales. My body is ready, my wallet is not.

>>8182697

Are you a collector? If you are then go for the Salburg stuff otherwise just buy Totori and enjoy being the little girl. Personally as much as I'd love physical goods like the score/handkerchief I'd have to prioritise getting the games before anything else.

Sudo !Tohsaka8ks Sat Dec 3 09:10:24 2011 No.8182832 [DELETED]

>>8182823
>I'm not sure about America but around February Europe is getting the MGS HD remake bundle, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Tales of Graces f, Neptunia 2 and Meruru.
The MGS collection came out here last month, but yeah I'll be buying all those other games you listed as well. I'll have to pay more for ToG f since I'll be importing the Asian version, which has Japanese audio and English text.

>>	Sudo !Tohsaka8ks Sat Dec 3 09:11:23 2011 No.8182837 The MGS collection came out here last month, but yeah I'll be buying all those other games you listed as well. I'll have to pay more for FFXIII-2 since I'll be importing the Asian version, which has Japanese audio and English text.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 09:13:23 2011 No.8182844

>>8182823
>Why not make a free Japanese account and purchase the lowest amount of points available and grab the avatar(s)?
I have a Japanese account. Yeah, I bought the avatars. The thing is, I use my US account to play fightan. But I want the Azusa avatar because it fits my handle. I'll just make do with Mimi for now.

> Any stuff you download on your PS3, regardless of the account, is available on all of the other accounts whether they downloaded it or not.
Not true. I downloaded this premium Catherine avatar from JP PSN and I can't use it on my US account. It seems that the avatar you get will only be associated with that account, so no Azunyan avatar for my US one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 10:35:34 2011 No.8183010 File: 323 KB, 1000x1154, 12cc2d4c1a8d40e130b6369e1e6734b9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8182706 Why is it that Rorona with slightly longer hair looks so much more awesome? I'm torn whether I should get her as avatar or Mimi ...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 17:54:05 2011 No.8184552 >>8183010 Longer hair is always better. Always.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 19:19:09 2011 No.8184873
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I needed 6 cents to get a Totori~n avatar but the minimum I can take out of my bank account to my wallet is $5. Should I just buy all of them when I only plan on using one, maybe two? I don't want any avatars of horrible, ugly men...

Also Finnel>*

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 20:57:43 2011 No.8185256 >>8184873 Why not buy one or two and keep money in your account for possible future DLC for stuff like Meruru etc.

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Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:18:12 2011 No.8185338

>>8185256
Yeah, that's a good idea. Not as if there won't be other things to buy with Meruru... Not to mention Neptunia 2 is right around the corner.

>>8182600
You should know by now that western reviews sites are just awful for getting an opinion on a JRPG.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:28:12 2011 No.8185383 Why is Tilia's butt so nice?

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:28:43 2011 No.8185379

Playing Totori is making me feel guilty for skipping Rorona. All of my favorite characters come from that game.

>>8182665
Unless its a Capcom game or PS3 exclusive, the PSN selection is pretty terrible in the US as well. It isn't until recently that NISA started putting out avatars due to fan demand. I imagine its even worse for Australia or EU.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:36:12 2011 No.8185432 >>8185379 Does that mean we will get more AT3 stuff?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:37:12 2011 No.8185436 >>8185383 Because she's otherwise depressingly lacking in the chest department

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 21:41:45 2011 No.8185453 File: 723 KB, 750x978, mimi's best assets.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8185436 I am cool with it, cancerous chest tumors are an eyesore but a lovely derrière is to die for.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat Dec 3 21:58:13 2011 No.8185521 File: 389 KB, 1133x1600, TRiLOBiTE_021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8184873 Would tenderly but also roughly love Finnel while slapping her and choking her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 22:03:43 2011 No.8185543 File: 287 KB, 647x1001, 1310169504855.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8185521 I would too, because I love Finnel so much I would give into her hard M tendencies.

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:11:14 2011 No.8185790
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I just beat Qoga, and I'm sad to find that the series' most important character doesn't get to show up in the credits flashbacks. At all. I guess it's because she wasn't in any of the intros but still, jeez, major roles in two games and a mention in the third and nothing? Makes me sad...

Great game, fucking WONDERFUL way to end the series. I'll miss you, Ar tonelico. I have to admit I teared up. I don't want it to be over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:14:44 2011 No.8185803 >>8185790 >Great game, fucking WONDERFUL way to end the series Seriously, really really amazing. Also Ec Tisia. Forever my favourite series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:21:15 2011 No.8185833 >>8185790 >I have to admit I teared up. I don't want it to be over. I'm still depressed about it

>>	ｱﾉﾝｵﾌﾊﾞﾝｺｸ Sat Dec 3 23:22:15 2011 No.8185843 >>8185790 the ending is so good it redeemed itself from its shitty gameplay

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:22:45 2011 No.8185840 >>8185790 >I have to admit I teared up. I don't want it to be over. Look at it this way: The series ended before it could become shitty. Better to end while it's still good, rather than getting dozens of awful sequels

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:32:15 2011 No.8185879 >>8185840 You know what would be nice? If there were side story novels or something. Similar to how SAO is

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:32:45 2011 No.8185881

>>8185840
Yeah but it is hard to swallow, I think a 4th one could be just as good. At least there will never be a time I could hate Ar Tonelico. They could always make a game in the spirit of Ar Tonelico.

>>8185833
It gives me a sinking feeling really, Gust's other games just don't have the music to fill the void either. It was such a great setting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:35:15 2011 No.8185893 I still can't bring myself to buy at3. The purging thing is just...a little too much for me. Unfortunately, I've listened to some of the hymnos, and they were really good, which is actually frustrating.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:36:15 2011 No.8185899 >>8185879 There's a bunch of drama CDs, usually one covering a side story for each of the heroines. Weren't there also light novels for AT1? >>8185379 None of the NISA avatars are available here. Bein an eurofag is suffering.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:38:15 2011 No.8185904 >>8185899 Good point I completely forgot about those, I guess it's just that I really would like to see more of the world and characters that they've given us

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:39:16 2011 No.8185912

>>8185893
I thought so at first, I would never play it with someone in the room of course but over time the purges meant nothing to me.

The hymnos are god tier as well, go really good with the game.

>>8185899
Yeah but those aren't in a language I can understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:43:15 2011 No.8185921 >>8185904 >I guess it's just that I really would like to see more of the world and characters that they've given us I would totally read a novel revolving around Croix and his job, along with the mishaps in the weapons shop with friendzone and such.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:46:16 2011 No.8185932 Hell, just give me novelizations of the games and I'll be happy. Well, slightly less happy if it didn't follow 3rd Reyvateil is Canon Reyvateil, but I'd still buy and read and enjoy them all

Anonymous Sat Dec 3 23:59:48 2011 No.8185975

God damn, I don't know what took me so long, but I finally got around to downloading the whole AT music collection and just listening to the extra music is leaving me awe-struck.

I know I'm years behind as AT has "ended," but I would sell my soul for a live concert or something.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 00:54:17 2011 No.8186193 rah.cpk is the miracle of the universe. Now I can listen to all the battlesphere songs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:07:48 2011 No.8186248 Heroines: Misha>Jakuri>Finnel>Shurelia>Tilia>Aurica>Cloche>Saki>Luca Games: AT2>AT3>AT1 Favorite Hymnos: EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY This is the feeling I get about /jp/'s tastes in these threads

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:11:18 2011 No.8186261 >>8186248 Jakuri>Tilia>Aurica=Shurelia=Luca>Misha>Croche>Sake>Funnel

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:13:48 2011 No.8186265 File: 11 KB, 258x314, pffft.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8186261 >Funnel There's a nickname I haven't heard before.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:27:18 2011 No.8186293 File: 333 KB, 1280x960, luca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8186248 Jokes on you, Luca is my favourite. wonder how many insecure people are going to get angry this time

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:34:18 2011 No.8186311

>>8186248
I'm afraid Chronicle Key ranks in the mid-tier for me. While I certainly can accept that plenty of you guys probably do love it the most, from what I've seen posted it almost feels like it's only a handful of people who always post it every time someone asks.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:38:47 2011 No.8186322

>>8186248
Damn, I'm bad at assimilating myself with the /jp/ botnet then...
For me:
Shurelia > MIsha > Jakuri > Luca > Cloche > Aurica

As for the music, it's impossible for me to choose a favorite hymnos. Chronicle Key, Sphilia, Phantasmagoria, and Haibanation rank in the top.
I've only played the first two games so far, so my opinion doesn't count yet

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:48:18 2011 No.8186340

>>8186322
Widely loved AT3 Hymnos are EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE, EXEC_COSMOFLIPS, and Ec Tisia. Give them a listen even if you haven't played the games, they are great.

>>8186311
I see Chronicle Key more often than any other song. There a lot of candidates though, I bet the most loved BGM would be A Secret Meeting at Midnight though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:51:18 2011 No.8186351 >>8186340 I will check them out, thank you. I plan to play AT3 as soon as I can find a reasonably-priced copy online. In the mean time, I have Totori to keep me company. So far, I'm familiar with EXEC_Z from AT3 which I really enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:57:48 2011 No.8186363 >>8186340 >A Secret Meeting at Midnight Which one is that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 01:59:17 2011 No.8186368 >>8186363 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:02:19 2011 No.8186382 >>8186363 La la la la la la! Hmmm hmmm, hm hmm hmm hmmmmmmmmm...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:05:19 2011 No.8186395 >>8186382 A-R-T-O-N-E-L-I-C-O Ar Tonelico

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:10:20 2011 No.8186409 >>8186340 Wow, EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE was incredible. I had heard one or two songs from AT3 before and wasn't all that impressed, but this changed my opinion. The other two were great as well; I really look forward to hearing them in the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:18:17 2011 No.8186438 >>8186409 I forgot to mention, I thought it was interesting that these songs happen to be on the "Blue" side of the albums, which seem to be associated with the not-Finnel reyvateil - or is the character on the cover unrelated to the songs on the album?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:21:17 2011 No.8186443 >>8186409 I am partial to EXEC_COSMOFLIPS personally (EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE is my second favorite) but I am glad you like it. I hope you enjoy AT3 when you get it. The game gives it more emotion, that is why EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY so liked around here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:26:47 2011 No.8186460 >>8186438 Finnel has EXEC_ViiBaCi_MjiiRa and EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE Saki has EXEC_EP=NOVA (troll song) and EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE EXEC_COSMOFLIPS and EXEC_REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL are Tilia's

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:37:18 2011 No.8186486 No one likes EXEC_METEMPSYCHOSIS/.? I think it's one of the best AT3 songs.

>>	Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sun Dec 4 02:48:49 2011 No.8186505 Nyamo song is my favorite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgXH2GW7Bo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:51:18 2011 No.8186512 All the battle songs in all the games are shit shit shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 02:52:49 2011 No.8186513 >>8186505 Who else felt like someone taking care of a retarded sibling during phase 1 and 2? They couldn't have made Saki like that on purpose, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:00:19 2011 No.8186527 >>8186513 Everyone thinks they will choose Saki first because healthy. Then she opens her mouth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 03:31:18 2011 No.8186604 File: 34 KB, 304x650, Character_mute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WHY NO MUTE ROUTE GUST WHY also Jakuri=Aurica=Finnel>Tilia=Shurelia=Misha>Luca>Croche>Saki

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:05:49 2011 No.8186671 >>8186512 Why would you say that? The battlesphere songs are awesome with the right hyumas. Also vrtra from AT2 was really good in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:15:19 2011 No.8186688 So is the PSN version of Mana-Khemia worth the 7.99 it's on sale for? I heard the game had terrible load times but I'm not sure how much those effect the download version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:23:50 2011 No.8186704 >>8186486 It ranks like incredibly high on my tier list. Absolutely fantastically written, but definitely not a song for everyone.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 04:55:50 2011 No.8186784
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>>8185379
>Playing Totori is making me feel guilty for skipping Rorona. All of my favorite characters come from that game.
Personally, I like the Roroan from AT more than the Rorona from her own game. I also find lack of Astrid as a plus.

Meruru has been really disappointing so far though. Except for the music. Fuck yeah recorders!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKSJf4MFzOE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A-fQb0rmiI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKH8MaLqwpc

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:00:51 2011 No.8186793 >>8186688 It's a really REALLY shitty port. The game deserved so much better.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:04:20 2011 No.8186800 >>8186784 Out of all three Atelier games on the PS3 Full-Bokko is still my favorite song. Not saying others aren't great but I just enjoy its energy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:44:52 2011 No.8186851 >>8186512 Nah, they're good. It's just that the battle songs NEVER. FUCKING. CHANGE. With some exceptions

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 05:45:21 2011 No.8186854 >>8186671 >vrtra from AT2 was really good in my opinion Agreed. I only wish there was, as the other anon said, more variance with the battle music.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:17:22 2011 No.8186926

>>8186851
Funny, thats one of my complaints about the Atelier games as well(and most jrpgs). Though its especially prominent in the Atelier games where there can be some really nice background music replaced by the same battle theme you've been hearing all game.

In a game where you hear your atelier or town's bgm most of the time, hearing all the different themes of the different dungeons is a nice change. Then they take it away.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:28:22 2011 No.8186952 I think my copy of Totori is bugged... why doesn't she say anything when I press X near a barrel? nothing happens.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:30:22 2011 No.8186965 >>8186952 They decided it wouldn't be cute or practical for Totori~n to say it. A good decision I might add.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 06:49:22 2011 No.8187009 >>8186604 >WHY NO MUTE ROUTE GUST WHY Because she was supposed to be a vanguard along with Gengai and Jack. Also may as well add my one of these to the pile: Jacqli > Tyria > Cloche > Misha > Shurelia > Finnel > Aurica > Luca > Saki

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 09:52:02 2011 No.8187436 So I just found out that Meruru has a different script writer than the 2 previous games. That explains so much.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:24:32 2011 No.8187524 >>8186409 Arphage and Ec Tisia are the best

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:31:31 2011 No.8187537 >>8187436 So...how exactly does Meruru feel different in dialogue? I'm curious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:38:31 2011 No.8187558 >Get Ar Tonelico 1 from the lazy pack >It's dubbed Was this intentional? Is it worth getting the undub instead?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 10:42:01 2011 No.8187574 File: 33 KB, 545x500, disapprovalturtle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >putting Misha before Aurica

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:12:02 2011 No.8187619

>>8187009
>Because she was supposed to be a vanguard along with Gengai and Jack.

Yeah, that would make sense. AT3 had an entire second party's worth of characters who could easily have been party members.

Though I think I like it better that AT3 had a static Vanguard party, as it let the vanguards be regular participants in the plot as opposed to 1/2 where they just kinda hung out in the background until their own subplots became relevant.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:12:02 2011 No.8187622

>>8187537
In terms of dialogue, I don't think I know Japanese well enough to tell some particular differences.

In terms of overall writing though, I find Meruru herself and a lot of events in general to be quite boring.
They also made Rorona into a completely different character. Don't know what was the point of even bringing her in. Trolling the fans?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:14:02 2011 No.8187626 >>8187558 Ah, right, the 'language' option on the menu refers to the language of the voices while leaving the text unchanged. I kind of wish they made that clearer.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:15:32 2011 No.8187627

>>8187558

AT1 has a full Japanese voice track option outside of the FMVs, of which only one is voiced (the one at the start where Lyner crash lands,) so there's no real need for an undub.

AT2 also has a dual language option, but for some reason a lot of the Japanese voices are cut, so there is an undub for that one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:18:32 2011 No.8187630 Do we yet have an infinite loop of Totori holding her hands together and swaying back and forth?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 11:47:02 2011 No.8187724

>>8185379
>Unless its a Capcom game or PS3 exclusive, the PSN selection is pretty terrible in the US as well.

Make a UK PSN acount. i dare you not to laugh your ass off how terrible (and overpriced) the EU PSN store is. when your done laughing, picture even LESS content for other EU countries due to SCEE's retarded submission policy's.

holland and belgium dont have the totori DLC for example because even though there is not a word of dutch in the game, they still have to translate the fucking store description to dutch and apparently NISA did not feel like doing so.

Say want you want about the 360 but at least MS makes a decent effort for the EU.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:07:31 2011 No.8187780 >>8187627 The reason for AT2 is that they couldn't fit both English and Jap audio onto 1 disc, so they had to cut some voices to balance the two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:16:32 2011 No.8187801 >>8187630 Don't do it anon, you mind not survive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:31:02 2011 No.8187844 >>8187630 I'm glad someone asked while I was away. I'm sad that there doesn't seem to be one around yet though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:40:03 2011 No.8187881 >>8187801 worth it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 12:51:33 2011 No.8187926 >>8187780 That's what N1 says. Given that it was released clearly without almost any playtesting and full of problems, I wouldn't put any stock in it.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:06:34 2011 No.8188229

>>8187724

Even then that's questionable considering quite a few things are missing from the EU Xbox Live marketplace. The EU PSN store is pretty shitty though, I must agree. We either get the content late and/or severely overpriced or we don't get it at all.

>>8182844

>It seems that the avatar you get will only be associated with that account, so no Azunyan avatar for my US one.

Can anyone else confirm this? I know DLC works across different accounts but I'm curious to know about avatars.

>>8187622

They figured Rorona would be 'too old' so they turned her into a loli. I'm indifferent to loli Rorona though her voice is mildly annoying but her older self shown in the 2012 calendar is extremely delicious. I think Rorona was one of the lowest ranking characters in Meruru so they clearly fucked up with the loli decision.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:18:34 2011 No.8188267

>>8188229
Can anyone else confirm this?
I can confirm that. Avatars can only be associated with the account that bought it, unlike other content like DLC and games. I got 3 account, one CA, one US for buying stuff with friends, one JP for you know. I bought some avatar on the US one and wouldn't appear on any of the other accounts.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:27:33 2011 No.8188288
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>>8188229
at least MS realises nobody gives a fuck about translated store descriptions and does not troll an entire country if a publisher does not a submit a store translation.

Though admittedly NISA is not exactly known for their awesome EU support either. *cough*disgaea 3 trophy patch a year late without so much as an apology*cough*tecmo-koei as EU publisher partner*cough*not releasing avatars for the EU despite more than enough demand*cough*

Bitter? me? nah...

And yes sadly PSN avatars are account bound.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:40:06 2011 No.8188321

>>8186486
Metempsychosis was one of my early favorites as well. If I'm in the mood to pick and choose songs from AT3, it's one of the ones I'll listen to, though the KOKIA songs have really grown on me over time.

>>8187926
Actually, here's a breakdown of the space used on the Japanese AT2 disc:

4.3M erxs
274K modules
1.9G movie
350M rpk.bin
9.0M SLPS_732.63
1.1G sound
2.0K SYSTEM.CNF
774M vpack

Just duplicating vpack (the .afs files with all the voices in them) would already put them over 4.7GB, and that's assuming that the voice clips were on average as long as the original ones, which is hard to say... It's definitely feasible that they ran out of space.

The problem is that the GUST games use relatively wimpy compression for audio - 4bit ADPCM. For example, let's take Harmonics Frelia as stored on the game disc. It's 147 seconds long (just over two minutes) and takes up and takes up almost 8MB of storage (7940614 bytes). Ogg Vorbis at 163kbps takes 1 million bytes less to encode 3.75 times as much audio (5:44). If they'd been able to use a better compression algorithm for audio data, they could have stored SO MUCH MORE audio - note that the sound/stream directory (the BGM) is 1.1GB. You could half that easily with better compression, and that alone almost gives you enough room to duplicate the vpack info.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 14:42:06 2011 No.8188327

>>8188321
The movie directory is also 1.9GB - it uses MPEG1 video for everything, which is not the most optimal codec in the world. (They also apparently encode silent audio in the movies, but that only accounts for like 7% of the movie space.) And there are a lot of videos:

36M movie/3d - 3DCG of mostly Infel Phira related stuff at low and high resolution
87M AT2_OP01.sfd
95M movie/AT2_OP1D.sfd
186M movie/cs - a 6.5MB, 10 second clip for EVERY Cosmosphere entry scene
408M movie/csl - a 15MB, 19 second clip for EVERY Cosmosphere "Level Cleared!" scene
140M movie/eff - all the special magic/super move clips, flashy song magic effects, Synchronity Chain, etc. - most of which is actually there twice, once at a really low resolution, once at 640x480
344M movie/event - the zoom outs/pans for when you first enter towns, special effect backgrounds, panning over Frelinlinlililin's body sleeping in the pod, flashback scenes for stuff like Infel Phira, the cast roll for the Binary Sphere, etc. For some reason the Syureria - The singer angel opening is in here, too.
476M movie/event2 - cel-shaded FMVs and stuff like the activation of the CV/DV during the creation of Gaea (two versions), airship videos, Rim sector purges, and so on
5.8M /movie/event3 - a couple of other incidentals
91M movie/is - InfelSphere level start/clear videos

They probably could have cut 50MB by just not including videos at low AND high res, and probably another 150MB by not including audio (since it's silence anyway). Who knows how much better video compression would have netted? I doubt there's even a half hour of FMVs...

The PS2 main CPU is 300MHz, but it has a bunch of DSP extensions, so doing all the extra audio/video decompression PLUS the rest of the game logic may or may not be feasible. This is probably why GUST (and other companies) like Sofdec - it's easy to decode, at least.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:35:34 2011 No.8188504 >>8187630 I want this.

Ghast !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 4 15:51:35 2011 No.8188590
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It took some serious tinkering but I managed to finally get my PS2 emulator to work with Mana Khemia.

The issue is these fucking grid lines. Are these because of the emulator, or do these show up on an authentic copy of the game, too, and I just have to deal with it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 15:52:05 2011 No.8188599 >>8188590 It's an emulator issue. Try switching from software rendering to hardware rendering or vice versa. I remember I had to fix that issue with Ar Tonelico, but I can't remember exactly what I changed.

>>	Ghast !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 4 16:07:05 2011 No.8188660 >>8188599 Shit. Guess I'll just keep tinkering then. If anyone knows how to fix this problem, specifically, let me know and I'll keep this thread saved. Much thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:21:06 2011 No.8188709 >>8188590 Make sure "native resolution" or "native internal resolution" or something like that is enabled. A frequent problem is that the shenanigans emulators like to do to make polygonal games work better causes sprite-based games to look shitty.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:26:05 2011 No.8188733 >>8188590 Isn't that Aterlier Iris 1...?

>>	Ghast !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 4 16:27:36 2011 No.8188736 >>8188709 Looking through the PCSX2 emu configs and I don't see anything about hard/soft rendering or native resolutions. Damn. Is everyone using a different emulator or something?

>>	Ghast !!0ZWjg4scf/p Sun Dec 4 16:31:06 2011 No.8188761 >>8188733 Sorry, you're right. I've been messing with all of them so I've gotten the names mixed up.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 16:38:05 2011 No.8188791
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>>8188288
Disgaea 4 came out two months later, it has the same bugs it had on release in the US, and doesn't even have a patch yet. So EU players can still use the shop to clone items. Obviously, no DLC characters yet, either. I swear all the DLC for Neptunia was published weeks after the USA(it's not just NISA tho, Konami also hasn't released all the DLC of Harmony of Despair, for whatever reason. Consider this: since it's a 360 port, the US version of Harmony of Despair already has all language settings, so I, say, play that in italian with no issues at all and all DLC. There is no foreseeable reason Europe shouldn't have them already, since the game was released around the same time, too.). That's not even getting in the fact that the same game can cost 15 dollars in the US and 15 Euros in Europe, which despite the recent crisis, is still a good 40% more. Speaking of translations, I don't see why NISA wouldn't make ones for the dutch market, considered that the ones it does make are WORSE than what google would do. That doubles for the translations on the back of the game cases. Disgaea 2 and 4's italian ones are so bad it hurts to read them.

TL,DR: Being europe is suffering, save for the very occasional benefit like, uuuh, FFX with Dark Aeons, Terranigma(which I never saw personally), Xenoblade Chronicles(which was pirated by anyone who cared anyway).

P.S.: I just remembered we almost never get decent limited editions for non-mainstream games and had a small fit of rage. Last one I can remember for GUST is Mana Khemia PS2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 17:33:07 2011 No.8189072 So I'm about to start Rorona. Months behind, I know. I'm not going to obsess over getting everything right on the first run, but are there any significant things I should avoid missing/get done early?

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:20:39 2011 No.8189305

>>8188791
The only EU publishers that make decent limited editions are Ghostlight (P3P, Argarest), PQube (Blazblue, Arcana Hearts 3) and Rising star (Deathsmiles, Donpachi).
Sure their still kinda late but at least they make a good effort unlike most publishers.
Hell, PQube even included the NA DLC on disk with Blazblue CT due to the lateness.
Also apparently Deep Silver is bringing Catherine to the EU with the Pizzabox special edition that the US had.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/02/one-stray-sheep-pizza-served-with-a-side-of-catherine/

But for some reason NISA clings to those assholes tecmo-koeie who keep the artbooks exclusive to the UK because "we are a UK publisher". yet NISA touts them as the "European" publisher.
Of course if you point that out to their sales department they conveniently start ignoring you.

And yeah, most dutch on game boxes and the PSN store is obviously machine translated as well so NISA has no fucking excuse.
I for one, am holding off new NISA titles until they sort this bullshit out. knowing them it would not surprise me if future titles will not have DLC in holland&belgium as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:24:39 2011 No.8189324 >>8186486 I like EXEC_REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL a lot but no one gives it love. Not surprising considering there is a max of 15 people who regularly contribute to these threads.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:26:41 2011 No.8189345

>>8188791
>>8189305

I'll probably just start switching to an US account by the time Neptune II or Meruru hits. It's not only the lack of DLC by publishers like NISA, but also that you don't get access to most PSOne downloads.

Gonna suck having to go out of my way to get US PSN cards, but in the end it'll probably be a lot cheaper due to the exchange rate.

Anonymous Sun Dec 4 18:35:43 2011 No.8189406

>>8189324

It's a great song, especially the aria-like intro part. While that part comes quite close to something I'd call "the voice of an angel", the latter part, albeit nice, isn't as awesome as some of the other hymnos.
Though that seems to be a problem with a lot of KOKIA's songs ... they're great and have earned their place on my playlist, but there's always something lacking for them to reach Shikata's level of awesomeness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 4 21:40:44 2011 No.8191334,1 Ar Tonelico

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 01:56:53 2011 No.8191197 >>8189324 Don't be pessimistic. At least 20 distinct people have responded to this specific thread... I hope..

Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Mon Dec 5 02:31:24 2011 No.8191322
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I've been playing with the Meruru iphone app.

She wished me a happy birthday the other day. She is such a good girl. It is similar to the Oreimo app and other 3d-anime virtual girlfriend apps. There really isn't much to do besides pet them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 02:35:54 2011 No.8191332 >>8189324 Just listened to it, thank you.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 02:36:23 2011 No.8191334

I have a question regarding this: http://shop.salburg.com/product/sikata_fes_2011/
If I were to order a CD from Salburg through a proxy, what sort of quality can I expect from the EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. print?

Is it going to be a misaligned xerox on cartridge paper, a handwritten score on gilded parchment or somewhere in between?

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 04:00:53 2011 No.8191590

>>8189345
Personally, I have both a US and a EU one, but my main problem is getting ahold of some of the games, since shipping from the US costs. A lot. There has been the occasional US game in a local gamestop, like Catherine, and suprisingly, Agarest Zero(yeah, I don't know what the fuck either). I ordered Totori from the US, and I got it from Amazon since shipping was a bit cheaper, and I could get it with another game and save further on the shipping(does Rune Factory Oceans even have an EU release date yet?).

Also for some reason, I've had 2 US games (BlazBlue CT and another I don't remember right now) that showed their trophies in Japanese. This is a minor issue, but it's probably because the game wasn't yet released in Europe and it was like 'eh, system language is not English, let's default to Japanese'.

On another note, BestBuy for US PSN cards. Accepts credit card not issued in the US, sends code via email, sells them at face value with no additional charge. They might not be the fastest, but I always got the code in less than one day. You have to enter a specific address they give for international 'shipping' when filing the order, but since it's an email delivery, and you're not actually getting it at their stores, it's not a problem to do so. Considered that every other service either has problems with where you live, or had additional charges, I find it pretty convenient. Also, after the first time you enter everything, it literally takes less than a minute to order another one.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 04:05:23 2011 No.8191600

>>8189305
Well, getting to mainstream games, Square-Enix Europe made pretty good limited editions:

FFVIII was mighty fine, with a white memory card and a good quality T-shirt I wore until it had holes in it.

Unlimited Saga had a limited edition that was better than the game actually was. (To be honest the game had a redeeming quality or two, but it was mostly plain boring to me. And I tried. I really tried.)

Star Ocean 4 had a limited edition for the Xbox 360. I made triple backwards somersaults hunting videogame shops around the country to find it. 2 years later it magically reappeared in every Gamestop I see around.

FFXIII had limited editions in both 360 and PS3 version. FFXIII-2 apparently will have two limited editions(a 79.99€ one, and a 119.99€ one, which I hope comes atleast with a figure).

I'm pretty sure most of their PSP releases came with limited editions too(Dissidia, Lord of Arcana, etc.).

Nintendo also has been pretty decent with its first/second party titles. Skyward Sword has a pretty good one with a golden Wiimote that only costs 10 more €, and both editions have the soundtrack included.

Capcom had a few good limited editions, but lately I feel like Capcom should be renamed to Jew Inc., considered the amount of useless DLC-that-should-have-been-on-disc they're releasing.

Other than those, Demon's Souls and Dark Souls also had very good limited editions. Dark Souls might be my favorite limited edition released in Europe. Also well, a ton of other, non-japanese games had limited editions, but who cares about those?

Still, I need to import if I want a limited edition for Disgaea 4 or Neptune. And it took a long time to see anything comparable to WD's Lunar 2 EBC box (probably still my favorite limited edition to date).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 04:56:30 2011 No.8191737 >>8191590 Hmm, I always thought it doesn't matter what region the game and your PSN account comes from; isn't it possible to use an US PSN account and its DLC / avatars for EU games? Either way, many thanks for the BestBuy hint.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 05:18:52 2011 No.8191809 >>8191737 No, the DLCs are linked to the 'game id' as it were. Even saves won't transfer from US to EU discs and vice-versa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 05:48:23 2011 No.8191887 >>8191322 Why can't they make this of Android, I wonder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 06:28:52 2011 No.8192008 >>8182650 I have a Japanese account so it's not possible..Apparently, westerners are entitled to Japanese PSN characters avatar... hm.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 06:33:25 2011 No.8192021

>>8189324
It's likely my favourite AT3 song period.

I must honestly say, from comparing both, Kokia has the better singing voice, but Shikata uses her voice to wider effect. Both have very solid composing ability, with the difference being Kokia integrates instrumentation and singing as complements, while Shikata has a heavy emphasis on highly technical singing supplemented by instrumentation. Shikata's songs use very unconventional singing techniques to create unconventionally structured pieces, while Kokia uses her strong singing ability to create strong and relatively conventional pieces.

I get the exact same feeling from Mitose as well, Mitose in the place of Kokia.

>Captcha: composition ecorpna

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 06:38:26 2011 No.8192035

>>8182580
>Hyperdimenson Neptunia Mk. II - Feb. 24th 2012

I'm not sure why this is in this thread. It's a shitty game from a legendarily shitty company and has nothing to do with Gust. Is it because Gust and IF are making an otomege? Is that it? IF stuff is acceptable now?

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 06:54:56 2011 No.8192075

>>8186311
The problem with EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY is that it is too likeable, and it's more likely the first exposure to AT some faggot ever had, so we just inituitively and perhaps unconsciously label it "baby first's hymmnos".

While it is indeed not the best hymmnos, I actually can never forget that "holy shit I just discovered a miracle of the universe" feel five years ago when I first listened the hymmnos. Search your heart and you know you had that feel too.

The top of my list is the third Sublimation, omness chs ciel sos infeland EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 07:09:56 2011 No.8192134

>>8192075
I showed EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY to someone who has no idea what a JRPG is and he said it was one of the most beautiful songs he has ever heard and made me put it on his mp3 player. I don't what to think of it, maybe it is just a really appealing song.
Also nice list, this is mine:
METHOD_IMPLANTA
EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE
Flame~HOMURA
EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY
EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 07:26:58 2011 No.8192174 [DELETED]

>>8192021
Agree. Shikata's voice's most recognizable attribute is its diversity, while Kokia's is about your traditionally strong, crisp and crystal clear voice. It's hard for me to tell which voice is better, but when it comes to composing and arrangement ability, Shikata seems like the more accomplished and musician. Somehow their different styles complement each other quite nicely, much like what Shikata Akiko and Yuko Ishibashi had done in the previous Ar Tonelico.

Mitose Noriko? made me cream my pants countless times

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 07:29:57 2011 No.8192180

>>8192021
Agree. Shikata's voice's most recognizable attribute is its diversity, while Kokia's is about your traditionally strong, crisp and crystal clear voice. It's hard for me to tell which voice is better, but when it comes to composing and arrangement ability, Shikata seems to be the more accomplished musician. Somehow their different styles complement each other quite nicely, much like what Shikata Akiko and Yuko Ishibashi had done in the previous Ar Tonelico.

Mitose Noriko? made me cream my pants countless times

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 07:54:29 2011 No.8192245

>>8192021
>>8192180

Kokia relies a lot on her traditional, formal Opera training which is why her songs sound that way. From what I have of her discography, however, her range is rather limited. I think it's a blessing that she was brought in only for AT3 since I doubt that she'll be able to compose distinctive songs for more than one 'character'.

I'll have to agree as well that Shikata Akiko's forte is the fact that she has such a diverse range and mastery in composition and arrangement. The Orgel mini albums are testament to her arrangement skills since it's very easy to just swap the instruments with tinny glockenspiel samples but it's another matter entirely to give the impression of standing in the middle of a complex clockwork musical engine. The main commonality trait between her songs is the complex vocal track. And even still, she doesn't always employ it if it's not necessary.

Personally, I like Shimotsuki Haruka's singing voice over Kokia's when it comes to a 'clear' voice. Incidentally, the song that I use to introduce people to Shimotsuki Haruka is HISTORIA from the Radiant Historia soundtrack (composed by Shimomura Yoko [Legend of Mana, Kingdom Hearts series are some of her previous works]) which in itself is a very very good soundtrack and I highly recommend people in this thread to listen to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:13:01 2011 No.8192298 So, after listening to various Hymnos musicals over and over again, a pressing question arises: Where can I get more stuff of similarly good quality? My ears demand satisfaction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:40:06 2011 No.8192340 Honestly, I think the closest I've encountered are the works of Kajiura Yuki and her Kalafina project. I don't get exposed to all too much music nowadays though so maybe someone else has some great recommendations.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:43:58 2011 No.8192345
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>>8184873

>before playing AT3
>"Saki looks fun. I'm going to be in her camp for sure."
>have no real opinion on or expectations for female Lu-Bu
>Finnel actually turns out to be a complete lovable good-natured sweetheart

Cloche is my favorite, but Finnel is a close second.

I still have to skip her purges, though. Seeing just the nipples bounce is a little disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:48:58 2011 No.8192358 >>8186952 >I think my copy of Totori is bugged... why doesn't she say anything when I press X near a barrel? nothing happens. She says "Taru!" only on certain barrels, indicated by the pop-up bubble.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:49:59 2011 No.8192363 >>8192345 I don't think you belong on this board. Or on 4chan, for that matter.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:50:58 2011 No.8192366
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>>8192345

I guess while I'm at it-

Cloche > Finnel > Shurelia >= Jacqli > Aurica = Tyria = Saki > Misha >>>>>>>> Luca

I still like Misha, BTW. Even if she is a bit of a botched character that the writers clearly didn't care about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 08:57:29 2011 No.8192392 >>8192345 That is actually exactly the way I felt (about the saki vs. finnel, not the second thing). Although Tilia is superior to both.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 09:00:29 2011 No.8192401 File: 1.35 MB, 1500x938, Gust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8192035 >and has nothing to do with Gust Gust is one of the main characters, what are you talking about?

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 09:13:59 2011 No.8192439

Speaking of PSN cards, I've seen Amazon.it selling EU cards for LESS than face value(it's cards, not card codes, so they actually mail them, but I have free shipping for several months still, so it's a non-issue for me). Sure, it's just about 10% less, but it's still a bit less. Does anyone else buy cards for less than their value?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 09:19:31 2011 No.8192453 >>8192298 >>8192340 I would like some more similar music too. This is a big world (with lots of shit, though), so there must be something that comes close.

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Mon Dec 5 09:50:00 2011 No.8192526

>>8192035

It's in this thread because the series is a joint project, of which GUST is one of the contributing companies, alongside Idea Factory, Compile Heart, Nippon Ichi and others. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though.
It's a bit borderline, but still considered on-topic. Also, it doesn't have anything to do with otome games; quite the contrary, actually.

>>8192298
>>8192340
>>8192453

The closest you'll get to Hymnos is probably Yuki Kajiura with her projects (Kalafina / See-Saw / FictionJunction). Other than that, I haven't really found anything similar yet.

If I had to name an artist similar to KOKIA, it'd probably be Rurutia (ルルティア). Her songs cover quite a large range, style-wise, which is probably why I don't like all of them. My favorite track is "Gola":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkC5Ob45Doo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 10:29:01 2011 No.8192641 >>8192439 It's a common sight over here. I can order from pretty much any shop and get a £25 PSN card for £20 or less. This is why I was completely baffled when someone posted a link in the previous thread that had a $20 card for $23 or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 11:22:31 2011 No.8192818 I just encountered Cordelia in Totori. Wow. It's like she's even SHORTER. So, SO glad I completed Rorona before starting this. I'm grinning like an idiot seeing how these characters have grown. Also, Sterk looks cool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:08:00 2011 No.8192951 Is it possible to buy shit on an American PSN account and then use it on a European account? Because the EU PSN store is barren, or at least I can't find anything related to atelier games on it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:19:31 2011 No.8192991

>>8192951
Yes (except for avatars, which belong to the account that purchased them), everything downloaded from the US store can be used by your EU-account, as long as both accounts are still active on the PS3.

Just remember that you still need EU DLC for your european games.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:24:30 2011 No.8193006

>>8192951

Make a new American PSN account and then use an American PSN card, download the content that you want then log back into your European account and whatever you downloaded should still show up. Downloaded games work between different accounts, DLC only works if it's from the same region but it also works across accounts (An American copy of AT3 will only work with DLC from the American PSN store, for example). From what I can see from this thread the only thing that is account exclusive is avatars.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:32:30 2011 No.8193029 >>8192991 >>8193006 Alright, thanks.

Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:44:32 2011 No.8193089

>>8193006
>>8192991
>>8192951
Just two things:
A) removing an account also prevents you from using(or deletes, I'm not sure) all content related to that account, so keep the account on the PS3.
B) PSP works a bit differently, since you can only have an account per PSP, and while you can copy stuff on a memory stick from any account, it will only let you play games if you are on the same account that originally had it.

I actually wonder how the VITA will be, since I plan to actually buy some PSP games for the VITA, but if I have to stick to one accont, I'd have to pick one (most probably the US one).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 12:56:01 2011 No.8193127 File: 105 KB, 1296x972, 5nFgI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8193089 It seems like the Vita will work like the PSP, according to this (third question) You also have to use MediaGo or a PS3 to transfer stuff, no more USB Mass Storage mode

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 15:11:35 2011 No.8193507 >>8193127 Makes sense, after the piracy clusterfuck that was the PSP they probably want to lock the Vita down as much as humanly possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 15:59:07 2011 No.8193713 >>8193127 Makes sense after all. I think I'll just stick to an US account.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 5 18:27:35 2011 No.8194410 >>8191322 Is that iPhone only? Droids don't seem to have fun little things like this as often, might be time for a switch. >>8187844 >>8187630 I must have this loop. Finals are coming up, help me through this kind anons~

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 00:10:46 2011 No.8196206 >>8194410 Why do you want to die so badly?

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 00:20:45 2011 No.8196269

Q2 says 「Media Goを使用してパソコンとPS　Vita間でデータ移動は出来ますか？」
(Is it possible to transfer files between a PC and PS Vita?)
And the answer is 「対応してません。ただし、Media GoではPS Vita用で再生出来るデータを作成（エンコード）することが可能です」
(No. However, Media Go can encode videos to play on the PS Vita)

Tsubasa_Cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Tue Dec 6 01:34:47 2011 No.8196512
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>>8194410

>Is that iPhone only?

Sadly yes.

Even if they made an android version, they would probably fuck up the region like they did with Barcode kanojo on android.

There are a lot of stupid moe/otaku apps:

-Meruru App
-Steins gate clock/Divergence meter app
-"Moe Calculator girl" app (she speaks the numbers you enter, and reads the answer out loud. And you can dress her up)
-A "moe custom playlist" app. I was torn between the S&M girl and the catgirl, but the catgirl won.
-Oreimo App (similar to meruru, only more tsundere). App is free, but kuroneko and extra outfits cost $1.99
-Touhou BA app (just an animated wallpaper)

Also I have two "Sleeping with girl" iphone apps. You can adjust her breathing/snoring and change her position, or rub her like you can all the other iphone app girls and hear her complain/squeak. She also works as an alarm clock where she gently wakes you up with "oniisan, it is time to get up...

tl;dr

Apple is winning the "pointless weeaboo app" race.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 02:25:49 2011 No.8196653 >>8196206 I'm an asian boy without a job. I am a discrage and must kill myself. This is the best way. >>8196512 Damnit. Well maybe I'll switch it up and give iPhone a try when I'm in the market for a new phone. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 02:31:51 2011 No.8196666 Anyone got that guide on how to get the totori pantyshot? i think you had to go to the grassy field near the start of the game and play with the camera, but i can't find the right spot. any ideas? gamefaqs was no help

>>	「ロリあき」 Tue Dec 6 02:34:19 2011 No.8196673 >>8196512 Don't forget Cave's Houkago no Kamishibaibu.

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 02:34:19 2011 No.8196674

>>8189305

NISA translates entire game and makes some (admittedly bad) mistakes:

> Fucking lazy bastards I can do better than that with my JLPT N5 I learned from anime

NISA doesn't translate into a language they can handle even less than Japanese:

> NISA has no fucking excuse.

I guess haters gonna hate.

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 02:39:50 2011 No.8196692

>>8188321

> You could half that easily with better compression, and that alone almost gives you enough room to duplicate the vpack info.

Good luck decoding and muxing 4+ Ogg Vorbis streams in real time on a PS2. (Actually it's probably difficult-but-possible but we're talking about GUST programmers on a shoestring budget here.)

>>	Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Tue Dec 6 02:40:20 2011 No.8196694 I forgot to mention this one. I didn't download the app because it wasn't meat or the reverse-reverse-trap maid.

>>	Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Tue Dec 6 02:41:49 2011 No.8196696 File: 38 KB, 320x480, full.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8196694 Forgot pic. But meruru is by far my favorite of all the 3d girl apps so far.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 02:47:19 2011 No.8196705 >>8196696 yozora a shit etc. Everybody loves Niku, why they do this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 06:16:54 2011 No.8197184 >>8196696 If I could have a loli Rorona app I seriously don't know what will happen to my future.

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 14:46:15 2011 No.8198325

Okay, I finally decided to buy Rorona today and I'm a little baffled.

Best Prices
Ebay: 34.99, Used
Amazon: 46.94, new, 34.80 + shipping, used
Local Gamestop store: 29.99, new limited edition with artbook.

What? And the clerk has the gall to look at me and ask if I wanted Qoga too. I feel like I made out like a bandit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 15:27:28 2011 No.8198484 File: 210 KB, 972x542, [unyaaa].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] [unyaaa] Hope this still works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 15:54:16 2011 No.8198619 >>8196696 Is this iPhone or what?

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 16:12:18 2011 No.8198721

>>8198619

Yea... But there isn't really a lot to them.

If you move your finger on the screen she follows along, and if you tap the screen she jumps to the side out of the way and complains.

If you touch the girl you get comments ranging from idle banter to angry "Where do you think you are touching" kinds of comments.

Then there are a dozen more more calendar based events, where she wishes you merry christmasu or gives you a valentine gift. Also you enter your birthday and on that day she has a special scene.

The Meruru app is way more laid back than the Oreimo one, and she doesn't really get mad or upset, even when you pet her too hard. And I don't have Yozura app or Kuroneko yet.

Meruru app demo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sTd1qMtn1A&feature=related

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 19:54:25 2011 No.8199754 >>8198484 Oh god, so moe..

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 20:31:34 2011 No.8199879 >>8198484 >>8199754 For the people who are unaware - download the greasemonkey script '4chan sounds' to hear the sound file embedded in the image. http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/64678

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 23:34:32 2011 No.8200623 Do the Mana Khemia games have time limits?

Anonymous Tue Dec 6 23:37:01 2011 No.8200640

>>8200623
Sort of, but it's a total nonissue as long as you're playing with your brain instead of with the controller jammed up your ass. You have to do well on the required quests/classes or you're forced into remedial quests instead of getting to do character events, but nothing is hard at all to ace even without an FAQ. If you ace everything, you end up with more open time spots than there are character events to do.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 23:55:31 2011 No.8200705 >>8200640 And to clarify, there's no limit on the number of times you can go to dungeons or shit like that. Time won't advance until you either finish your assignment or finish a character event.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 6 23:56:31 2011 No.8200709 >>8200640 How is the combat? Is there button mashing like AT2 or is it discretionary like AT1?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 00:04:33 2011 No.8200748 >>8200709 It's fully turn-based, if I remember correctly. So no button mashing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 00:06:33 2011 No.8200755 >>8200748 Alright, thanks.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 00:28:33 2011 No.8200810

>>8200755
It's my favorite RPG battle system. Uses (almost) the entire party with tiny SP pools, so there's a huge focus on switching party members in and out during combat to regen SP and HP as well as constant support attacks and defenses. All of which, including basic attacks and skills, evolve in both animation and usage as you go. For example, everyone starts out with a basic support attack, but as you upgrade it, some change to area, some become status effect, some provide buffs. Same with defensive supports. Character balance is awesome in MK1, but a couple broken as shit skills mess it up in MK2.
Wish they were a little harder harder, but that's what setting difficulty to Hard and then fighting at night for boosted enemy stats is for.
Minor non-plot boss from midgame to show off battles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNacO8VCMP4
And late game non-plot to see how things change in only a few chapters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FsubvO7A1o

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 01:01:32 2011 No.8200929 >>8198484 It works perfectly, though not on Chrome. Totorin sounds out of breath all the time, so moe.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 03:17:06 2011 No.8201473

>>8196674
No, but see, it would be okay if they machine translated the game descriptions and put up the content. Every non-major company does that. We would laugh at what they've written and buy the content, like I laugh at what's written on Disgaea 4's box and buy the game. They lose sales, and it would take 3 minutes in google translate to do it. So neither money nor time is an excuse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 03:31:08 2011 No.8201519 anyone wanna answer my question? >>8196666

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 03:58:08 2011 No.8201603 >>8201473 >Every non-major company does that Even the major ones do it. The dutch descriptions for the No More Heroes Paradise DLC are in some sort of dutch engrish and that game was published by Konami.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 05:59:42 2011 No.8201790 Tecmo Koei bought Gust?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:05:12 2011 No.8201810 >>8201790 What? what on earth would make you say ta... ... dear lord, it's true...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:15:42 2011 No.8201826 File: 837 KB, 703x782, Frelia-puking.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8201790 Fuck this gay world.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:15:42 2011 No.8201827 >>8201810 I am not really good with companies, does this mean abandon ship, Gust we hardly knew ye or is it a good thing>

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:18:13 2011 No.8201837

>>8201790
>This is a joke right?
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/07/tecmo-koei-purchases-atelier-series-developer-gust/
>FUUUUUUUU

Fucking hell. INB4 99999 soulless sequels of gust IP's like dynasty warriors.
i would have preferred squeenix or namco. anyone but these assholes.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:20:13 2011 No.8201839

>>8201827
No clue to be honest.

It really depends on the details. If the acquisition is merely a "We want direct control over the profits but you remain autonomous" ala the old Tales Studios arrangement with NBG, then it could be a mere formality.

If it involved expanding the studio or changing operations, then yeah it could be a bad thing. The advantage GUST has is that it's very small; it does things cheaply so it can continue to offer niche or experiment with their formula without having to worry too much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:21:13 2011 No.8201840 >>8201837 >Ar Tonelico VIII: Does Anyone Still Give a Shit? So how are you preparations to gensokyo going?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:27:45 2011 No.8201849 >>8201840 I'm holding off until the inevitable iPhone exclusive Ar Tonelico 4 with day 1 DOA characters DLC

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:46:14 2011 No.8201900 So love is over now? Well, they can't very well ruin the things already published, so I'll just pretend everything released from now one will never have existed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:50:14 2011 No.8201909 Mostly I feel like this ruins the possibility of NISA picking up the inevitable PSV remakes of the earlier games. Otherwise... Ar tonelico is done, the Arland trilogy is done. If Gust is going to die, now is not a bad time to do it. But I'll cry a lot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 06:59:43 2011 No.8201927 So, in the end, I'll die without ever hearing new hymnos again? Very depressing.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 07:07:43 2011 No.8201946

>>8201927
Yeah, the music is legendary and the games appealed so much to me but I guess it is the end of an era.

RIP Gust, you were the best to me even if others couldn't appreciate you.

PS: Please don't rape the corpse... I don't think I could handle a watered down and crappy Gust game.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 07:18:44 2011 No.8201974 Fuck, this will be the worst Christmas ever.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 07:21:43 2011 No.8201984 >>8201837 It does say they're just planning, right? RIGHT?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 07:27:14 2011 No.8202007 >>8201946 Its a sad year for video game music. First Cavia went under so no more awesome NieR music and now this shit. For posterity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKRkoleJ1mI&feature=related

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 07:29:15 2011 No.8202016 >>8201837 Given their track record since the merger (specifically Team Ninja), my faith in TK is not high. Its nothing on the level of my deflated expectations for SE games, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 08:21:45 2011 No.8202172 >>8201927 Shikata Akiko and Tsuchiya Akira did it great with ACAD, so I think we could hope for further Ar Tonelico related works from them. and there're still fan-composed hymmnos out there, though they're infinitely not as good

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 09:12:46 2011 No.8202300 >>8201837 >Fucking hell. INB4 99999 soulless sequels of gust IP's like dynasty warriors. This is truly what I fear. Inb4 everyone at GUST jumps off the sinking ship and with the money they got from that they fund a new company.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 09:26:49 2011 No.8202330 http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/07/tecmo-koei-purchases-atelier-series-developer-gust/ Have you guys seen this? I hope it doesn't affect Atelier

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 09:27:49 2011 No.8202332 >>8202330 >>8201837

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 09:28:47 2011 No.8202336 >>8202330 the past page worth of posts have been all about this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 11:39:49 2011 No.8202576 http://www.siliconera.com/2011/12/07/tecmo-koei-to-develop-social-games-based-on-gusts-atelier-serie s/ It's already starting.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 11:49:22 2011 No.8202596 >>8201790 I literally feel sick. >>8202576 Oh there we go, time to throw up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:03:24 2011 No.8202635 >>8202576 Earlier, I was gonna post, wondering whether people weren't exaggerating the whole issue. ... well, I guess I got my answer. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:09:53 2011 No.8202653 It doesn't really matter though, does it? I mean, the PS3 series is done, the AT series is also done.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:14:50 2011 No.8202671 >>8202653 There's always AUs. And spin offs. For AT they can make a full game about grathnode inferia.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:15:51 2011 No.8202673
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>>8201790

I want to remain sceptical until actual news of how it affects Gust is released but Tecmo Koei just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Of all the companies to purchase Gust why did it have to be them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:21:51 2011 No.8202694 Finally finished up Totori today, only to realize there were DLC characters as I got a frying pan from a boss. I doubt I would have had much of a chance to play with them anyways due to the true ending requirements.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:24:20 2011 No.8202701 >>8202576 Next thread might as well be called "2012 = The end of an era" Edition Worst fucking console generation yet. Just about every dev i cared about either went under or got absorbed by some corporation who raped it to death.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:35:51 2011 No.8202722 File: 119 KB, 225x349, 1320243326122.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] At least it's very hard to screw up hymmnos, so even in ATXXIIII:kill me, it hurts to live we will have good music. ...right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:48:22 2011 No.8202755 This is not the sort of news I wanted to wake up to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 12:50:51 2011 No.8202762 File: 1.39 MB, 1028x588, 1323279822604.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't even know what to do anymore.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 13:23:52 2011 No.8202843

>Prior to the purchase, Tecmo Koei (more specifically Koei) have been working with Gust for years as their game distributor. The relationship between Gust and Koei extended overseas where Tecmo Koei distributes Gust’s games in North America and Europe.

I don't think there will be many changes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 13:48:52 2011 No.8202935 >>8202843 > Koei Tecmo said that, as part of the acquisition, it will be looking to make Gust's IP even more popular by branching it out into a variety of new genres. Sounds like plenty of changes to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 14:17:52 2011 No.8203009 this thread is dead just like gust

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Wed Dec 7 15:19:55 2011 No.8203272
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On a more positive note: surprisingly, my proxy'd package from the GUST store arrived today after less than a week.

For those who were wondering, the vocal score is actually printed on one of those plastic folders (you know, sheet sleeve kinda things) ... kinda not what I expected, but I guess I would have known better if my Japanese didn't suck. Either way, I think the score is rather pretty and I'll probably use it to print a real score scroll or something.

Note that the scan to the right sucks since the score is a bit larger than a normal sheet and doesn't fully fit into my scanner. I'll either have to find a bigger scanner or do some tiling / shopping to get an adequate scan; once that's done I'll upload the high-res version.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:23:55 2011 No.8203291 File: 2.31 MB, 240x317, Animation1.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here's something to cheer you up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:27:25 2011 No.8203303 >>8203291 OH GOODNESS, IT APPEARS MY NUTBLADDER HAS BEEN HORRIBLY DAMAGED

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:27:25 2011 No.8203304 File: 96 KB, 285x513, recette oh god.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8203291 Well this is nice to l-HNNGNNNNGNGNGNGNGNGNGNG

>>	Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Wed Dec 7 15:28:24 2011 No.8203313 >>8202762 By the gods, why do I want that now. MAKE IT HAPPEN, KOEI. I BELIEVE IN YOU.

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:28:55 2011 No.8203310
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>>8201790
I don't know how I feel about this buy out... I really don't know what to feel anymore. so many good companies I knew died from this before all I can feel is negative. but then nothing has happened yet so my feelings aren't justified either...

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Wed Dec 7 15:30:24 2011 No.8203317
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>>8203272

And here's the second bonus item, the Meruru handkerchief. Though handkerchief is probably the wrong word since it's a bit too large for that. (35cm x 90cm)
The cloth is also kinda too rough to use it as a handkerchief.

(Please excuse the shitty quality, the only digital camera I own is my phone)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:30:24 2011 No.8203318 Don't worry, if Gust falls, there will always be another company that makes little girl games for us to heartattack over!

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:37:25 2011 No.8203344 >>8202762 >Last panel Oh boy no.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:42:24 2011 No.8203366 >>8203317 More importantly, does it feel good to cum on it?

Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Wed Dec 7 15:53:55 2011 No.8203407

>>8203272
More importantly, how is that actually related to Chronicle Key at all? No matter how hard I listen, I don't hear a single bit of Japanese in there, not even in the background vocals (though I might be mistaken there, as it's kinda hard to understand anything at all).

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 15:54:24 2011 No.8203411 >>8203291 what have you done

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 16:11:25 2011 No.8203480 >>8203272 Tenso, right?

>>	S Wed Dec 7 17:17:01 2011 No.8203802 >>8203317 That's a hand towel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:22:29 2011 No.8203834 Worst news of the years by far. I seriously thought those news were a nightmare I had last night, then I saw this thread when I came back from work. Fuck this gay earth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:24:59 2011 No.8203850 File: 97 KB, 738x539, fuck this.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8202755 >>8202755 >>8202755 >>8202755 >>8202755 >>8202755 >>8202755 Seriously. God fucking damn it.

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Wed Dec 7 17:28:29 2011 No.8203876 [DELETED]

>>8203480

I've used fromjapan.co.jp as proxy.

>>8203407

It's not the score for the song you hear ingame, but rather a variation of it in Japanese; from what I can understand, the lyrics differ similar to the hymnos translations I know. The melody should be the same, though.

Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Wed Dec 7 17:29:29 2011 No.8203881

I really don't see the problem here.
Either Gust will be able to continue doing their stuff while Tecmo Koei uses their acquired rights to do some extra stuff, or we get Rorona and Saki turning armies into pie and cake.

Either way, I'm completely fine with it.

Anonymous !!BvxJDVIR1kE Wed Dec 7 17:30:59 2011 No.8203891

>>8203480

I've used fromjapan.co.jp as proxy.

>>8203407

It's not the score for the song you hear ingame, but rather a variation of it in Japanese; from what I can understand, the lyrics differ from the hymnos translations I know. The melody should be the same, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:31:59 2011 No.8203896 >>8203881 They're already developing social games SOCIAL GAMES

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:34:29 2011 No.8203911 >>8203896 > social But that's everything /jp/ stands against!

>>	Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Wed Dec 7 17:36:00 2011 No.8203926 >>8203896 >while Tecmo Koei uses their acquired rights to do some extra stuff The article even says it's Koei who will do that. We have yet to hear what actually happens with Gust/the Atelier team.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed Dec 7 17:37:29 2011 No.8203930 File: 676 KB, 788x1207, 67759a2978.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8203896 What the heck are social games anyways? MMORPGs? FarmVille?

>>	Dexwyde !mbHjxjfHlA Wed Dec 7 17:38:30 2011 No.8203932 >>8203930 facebook shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:41:05 2011 No.8203956 >>8203930 yeah, farmville and garbage like that

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:50:32 2011 No.8204005

I finished my first AT game with AT2 on Cloche's route which I enjoyed. I'd like to do Jacqli's route but I'm too lazy to go back and play though the same shit again since my save at the beginning of phase 2. I started playing AT3 for Cocona but what I've seen from the beginning I think I hate the MC. Does Cocona have a bigger part in AT3? Or should I just skip to Atelier Totori?

Anonymous Wed Dec 7 17:58:02 2011 No.8204040

>>8203896 >>8203930
Social games in Japan could potentially mean things like AiSpace. How amazing would it be to sit around in a little alchemy shop with various /jp/s in Mel-designed character bodies watching niconico on a magical alchemy TV?

Please don't shatter my delusions. I know it will be AlchemyVille, but I am hiding from the truth.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 18:00:02 2011 No.8204056 Fuck this shit. The next moment I see it there will be DoA shit in my little girl games. Great way to end my day, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 18:00:02 2011 No.8204057 >>8204040 Wait ... you mean Japanese social games actually feature a real social aspect compared to Facebook's "let's see how long I can spam my contacts with pointless game status messages before they black list me" social games?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 18:02:31 2011 No.8204062 Does Japan use Facebook, or do they have their own thing?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 18:04:31 2011 No.8204071 >>8204057 It may become mobile games, since it's what's hip howadays. >>8204062 They have mixi for social networking. I dunno if mixi is like Facebook.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 18:58:33 2011 No.8204325 >Ar Tonelico / Atelier / Gust general the lack of atelier torrents saddens me. Seeing this thread so often made me want to try something, and since kamidori was so fun...

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 20:13:34 2011 No.8204692 File: 32 KB, 474x335, 1320746000558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8204040 >How amazing would it be to sit around in a little alchemy shop with various /jp/s in Mel-designed character bodies watching niconico on a magical alchemy TV?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 20:20:34 2011 No.8204719 >>8204062 Japan seems to really love Twitter and Tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 21:19:35 2011 No.8205024 >>8204056 In the other hand, seeing the Atelier girls in DoA might be a possibility...a pleasant one, at that. Perhaps too lewd, but pleasant nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 21:47:37 2011 No.8205136 >>8205024 The occasional swimsuits in the artbooks and maybe one CG in game is enough. I don't really like the idea of a lewd Totori~n... Gust had the right amount of fanservice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 22:52:59 2011 No.8205406 >>8203291 Extremely shitty day and I come home to this. Yes! I love you. Is there a faster version?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 22:54:07 2011 No.8205417 no export for you, forevermore

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 7 23:05:08 2011 No.8205457 File: 1.14 MB, 320x240, Phantom Solaire has been summoned.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8203291 Yes. YES.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 00:17:10 2011 No.8205605 Well, I was wondering what was going to ruin Christmas this year. Seems like it's Koei's turn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 01:24:42 2011 No.8205786 >>8203291 been watching this for 20 minutes i need to reevaluate my life

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 01:59:42 2011 No.8205917
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>>8205406
I also made this one which has less frames (every 6th one removed), since the video was at 60FPS, but I can't make the gif 60FPS because delay is in 1/100th of a second.

If anyone knows of a good gif editing program let me know.
Or you can make one yourself
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11182097
It's around 15:25

moot should add mng support.

>>	ｱﾉﾝｵﾌﾊﾞﾝｺｸ Thu Dec 8 02:39:13 2011 No.8206069 File: 108 KB, 1024x950, e1ab4d2a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ｱﾉﾝｵﾌﾊﾞﾝｺｸ Thu Dec 8 02:39:14 2011 No.8206064 File: 111 KB, 1024x950, ecf92437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] guys whats this

>>	ｱﾉﾝｵﾌﾊﾞﾝｺｸ Thu Dec 8 02:40:13 2011 No.8206072 File: 111 KB, 1024x950, 266bf71f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 03:11:47 2011 No.8206203 >>8206064 Steel Chronicle http://www.konami.jp/am/steel/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 03:28:45 2011 No.8206258 File: 98 KB, 400x320, ap_4th.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8206072 Saw this on 4gamer earlier and my first thought was Cocona. The game has some pilot customization, so maybe the artist will try to sneak in some AT lookalikes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 07:08:47 2011 No.8206826 >>8206072 >>8206069 >>8206064 Evangelion Arcade.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 08:06:51 2011 No.8206935 >>8206826 looks more like armored core with anime influence

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 08:57:21 2011 No.8207049 >>8206935 >animu armored core with nagi art Where do I sign up?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:19:20 2011 No.8207096 What were exactly the problems with the psp release of MK?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:24:20 2011 No.8207105 >>8182823 Fuck, I need a PS3

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:29:21 2011 No.8207113 >>8207105 I got mine in July for AT3 and never looked back. I didn't even like JRPGs until you guys came along.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:33:20 2011 No.8207127 >>8207096 What weren't the problems?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:35:50 2011 No.8207132 >>8206064 Akane? >>8206069 Cloche? >>8206072 Cocona? Goddammit Nagi

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:40:50 2011 No.8207145 File: 252 KB, 745x1200, 1311517118504.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8207132 Nagi is a miracle of the universe

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 09:41:20 2011 No.8207150 >>8207096 From what I've heard in these threads, shitty load times and no Japanese language track.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 10:29:50 2011 No.8207257 >>8206069 So Reisha didn't die, she just went to another dimension and started piloting a mech? Awfully DBZ in here

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 11:00:53 2011 No.8207357 >>8207150 Add to that badly resized graphics (esp. sprites), and lag/NOW LOADING every fucking where.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 11:20:22 2011 No.8207419 >>8205457 >Filename I laughed. >>8205917 Thanks for the .gifs.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 13:20:24 2011 No.8207738

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/12/vita-accounts/

>Sony associate brand marketing manager Crystal MacKenzie said that PlayStation Network accounts will be connected to the Vita’s proprietary memory cards, not the hardware itself. Though you will have to restore the Vita to its default factory settings in order to change the account on each memory card, you can use multiple cards to access multiple PSN accounts on a single Vita system.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 13:46:58 2011 No.8207796

>>8207738
oh wow. so they make it region free but if you wanna buy DLC for an import you have to juggle memory cards? not to mention you cant play the import on your main account with the DLC since you have to download it on your account bound memory card?

on one hand i wanna wait for the inevitable CFW to fix this sort of bullshit. but on the other hand im afraid they pull another PS3 and remove the PSP BC on the next hardware revision or some idiocy like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 8 13:47:27 2011 No.8207797 >>8207738 One 32gb and one 2gb cards it is.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 22:43:43 2011 No.8210046

>>8207796

>but on the other hand im afraid they pull another PS3 and remove the PSP BC on the next hardware revision or some idiocy like that.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me, to be honest. They received so much backlash regarding what happened with the PS3 but still went ahead with it so it's actually quite possible to happen with the Vita too.

Anonymous Thu Dec 8 23:59:46 2011 No.8210708

>>8210046
The best option then would be to buy early, since the first editions are generally the easiest to hack and that guarantees you backwards compatibility.
The hardest part would be sticking to your guns and not updating it until CFW comes out because that might take a while, and with bullshit like on-disc updates that prevents you from buying games legitimately from a certain point onwards.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 00:27:16 2011 No.8210796 http://exhentai.org/g/439751/5296b33fc2/ http://exhentai.org/g/441220/b857d32982/ Enjoy feeling bad afterwards.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 00:27:16 2011 No.8210801 >>8207113 Same here. I used to be a die hard Xbox classic fanboy but then I got into jRPGs.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 00:47:16 2011 No.8210835 >>8210796 This is the Totorin and Mimi rape stuff right? No thank you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:16:46 2011 No.8210892 >>8210796 Are new accounts just not allowed to access these? It worked fine until I forgot my password and had to get a new one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:18:16 2011 No.8210897 >>8210892 Make sure you're logged in at g.e-hentai, that might be the issue. >>8210835 Yeah. They were both recently translated so I figure I'd post them but I couldn't fap to neither and I felt bad afterwards for even reading them.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 01:22:47 2011 No.8210902 >>8210897 Even pregnant Totorin and Mimi can't make up for how horrible they are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:28:16 2011 No.8210917 >>8210796 >If the ending of this one left you feeling angry, I highly recommend checking out the sequel which we'll be translating soon. Why that insufferable little faggot...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 01:45:52 2011 No.8210944 >>8210892 here, Okay, I just recovered my old account and was able to view those links. So for anyone who sees "This gallery is pining for the fjords", it appears you're out of luck unless you have an older e-hentai account.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:01:51 2011 No.8211281
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>>8210708
By the way, what kind of disc support does the Vita use? Some new Sony support that will die at the speed of light since nothing else uses it? I'm really starting to wonder why doesn't every game company ever just switch to downloadable videogames. They could still sell redeemable codes in shops if they really wanted to keep that market alive. Even leaving PC apart, we all know that many PS3, and a vast majority of PSP games were released (some exclusively) like that. Would it be that troublesome to release all of them like that? I can only see the problem with games like, uh, MGS4 and FFXIII that are freaking huge. But if it's not read from a disc, you can probably cut corners here and there easily (and such huge games usually have installs anyway).

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 05:31:53 2011 No.8211338

>>8211281
Vita doesn't use discs. It uses solid state memory similar in profile to SD cards and the specification reserves some space on the card for save data, patches etc... It has additional external memory card slot(s?) for other storage capacity for movies, PSN downloads and the like.

Backwards compatibility to PSP games is done strictly via a downloaded copy from the PSN store. And yes, you have to pay to download a copy to the Vita. There's a 'Vita Passport' programme where you register your disc games via your PSP onto your PSN account and you get a discount to buy it for the Vita.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 07:52:56 2011 No.8211552 >>8211338 Will all games be supported? Or only a few? Any word on the cost to repurchase your games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 11:39:37 2011 No.8212126 >>8211552 only games - that are on the PSN - where the developer/publisher agrees to do this ...so probably like 10 games in the US store, if any the costs for the Japanese store were from 500yen to 2000yen (i.e. $5 to $20)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 14:57:58 2011 No.8212656 >>8210796 oh god ... why would you do something like that ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 15:59:09 2011 No.8212898 File: 1.20 MB, 1200x1718, 1314336979437.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8211338 That's actually not that bad. If the memory is somewhat decent in size it could be pretty practical.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:04:44 2011 No.8213092 >>8212898 did they seriously say that again? yep they keep destroying their rep as a review site, if there is a rep even left.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:07:45 2011 No.8213107 >>8213092 http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1199400p1.html Their review is actually pretty positive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:35:46 2011 No.8213215 >>8213107 compared to past ones yes. but its still got some bite bias to it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 9 17:43:16 2011 No.8213243

>>8213092
who gives a fuck about what amercians think, they are thew reason we get only shit games from japan. Al they care about is shitty call of duty. Im american and i hate our nerds and gamers for the most part, i wish i come kill them all, they are all hipster shit trash, not even nerds.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:02:46 2011 No.8213307 Is Totori's and Rorona's soundtrack recorded digitally or acoustic? I'm listening to it right now and it seems so... eletronical even in the passages of woodwind and string instruments.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:08:46 2011 No.8213343 >>8213107 http://ps3.ign.com/articles/112/1124895p1.html Their review for Rorona was pretty brutal, as you can see.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 18:10:46 2011 No.8213353 >>8213343 >This is the manliest guy in the game. I know, right? Gio, Sterk, Hagel. Did IGN get asscrumpled they didn't get paid off to write their review?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:17:49 2011 No.8213384 >>8213307 You mean analog, not acoustic. I would seriously doubt that very much professional level music is recorded analog anymore. Maybe indie bands do it for hipster points, but that's about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:19:49 2011 No.8213397 >>8213384 I think he meant whether they used real instruments or synthesized ones.

>>	Izuna !!lKnTVX4C9aX Fri Dec 9 18:23:17 2011 No.8213413 >>8213397 I'd assume synthesized ones were used. Not that that's a problem, they still sound amazing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:33:49 2011 No.8213470 >>8213343 I like how 99% of the comments are bashing the reviewer there. That "review" was worst than some feminist woman that reviewed Rorona some time ago. I'm amazed at how much it sucked.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:37:51 2011 No.8213489 File: 118 KB, 600x912, Kishida Mel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8213353 Imagine Famitsu or any other Japanese game review site shitting on Western games for not pandering to their tastes. It goes full circle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 9 18:40:51 2011 No.8213516 Aaaaand new thread: >>8213486

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