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You know, we all so often hear about /jp/ being so shitty etc, but we almost never get anything discussing something beyond that, beyond simply saying how shitty it is. The staff can't fix all our problems; relying on them to fix /jp/ is a fallacy, because we alone control just how shitty or not shitty it is, during the 99% of the time we're not being raided/spammed... and so don't go blaming outsiders and interlopers for all our problems.

So, I'll ask, quite simply, how do we make /jp/ better? Not just that, but what do you think would honestly improve the place overall, while dealing with the reality that you can't just wave your hands and change board topics, make a Touhou or VN board etc, or wave your hands and remove certain users/boards from existence?

In other words, what kind of topical, actually useful content do you want to see, that you think /jp/ lacks, but could use more of? What would your ideal /jp/ be? If we can at least get some voices out on where some of us honestly stand, and where we would like to take /jp/, we all could gain some constructive insights.

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I think we need more big throbbing hard cocks, dude!

>> No.8097447

/jp/ will always be shit because of the kinds of people it attracts

>> No.8097450

OH BOY ANOTHER META THREAD

THANKS OP URE THE BEST POSTER EVER!!

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Meta thread?
No!
This is now a Saten thread!

>> No.8097455

Each subgroup living here on /jp/ has their own ideals on how the board should be and asking something like this is going to result in terrible things happening.

Putting perspectives aside, one of the biggest problems with /jp/ is that everything that belongs to is easily relevant to other boards. Top that off with /jp/'s tendency to redirect everything they don't like, and you've got yourself an entire board dedicated to distributing pointers to other boards.

>> No.8097456

>>8097447
Doesn't that apply to pretty much any board though? There is not one objectively, unanimously considered good board on 4chan, besides the ones that never get used such as /po/.

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Saten hijacku!

>> No.8097460

>>8097457
>>8097453
>>8097450
>>8097446

You are the cancer killing /jp/. Stop it and fucking grow up just for one fucking second.

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>>8097460
You sound mad OP.

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Love for the love goddess.

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>So, I'll ask, quite simply, how do we make /jp/ better?

More Saten!

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>>8097460

>> No.8097469

>>8097465

How about you try actually thinking for once? You're always shitting up the board, what DO you want? What are your aims and goals? Talk for once.

>> No.8097470

>So, I'll ask, quite simply, how do we make /jp/ better?
By ignoring bad and/or trolls threads as we used to. As should be evident, that's not going to happen though.

When an apple rots, you can't make it better anymore. I've seen several boards suffer the same fate and they always follows more or less the same pattern. /jp/ has simply been surprisingly resilient, mainly due to the small userbase.

tl;dr - It's worthless to even try

>> No.8097471

I HOPE TO GOD THAT THIS BOARD IS DELETED.

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Well its better than yet another shitty meta thread.
I am in!

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Okay, I've never played Touhou or ekpt up with all the characters, so I'm just going to ask....

Why are Reimu and Marisa always together? Are they the main characters of Touhou or best friends or something?

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hmm hmm hmm~
la la la~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4pSRwN9E4s&t=3m9s

>> No.8097488

>>8097474
Instead of just dismissing it as another shitty meta thread, this is the one in a million threads that is actually trying to be sincerely constructive.

You must have something you want to say besides the usual tripe. Something must deeply bother you for you to be so committed to being such a shitty poster, let's hear it. I'm genuinely curious what makes you tick as a person.

>> No.8097490

I think it's more of what we don't need in the board, rather than what we want.
Honestly, I think it's just discussing things like 3D that need to leave. Some people from /r9k/ or /v/ come here and join our crossdressing and sex toy threads, and think this is some kind of board for finding people to have sex with.
If we could just ignore, or even hopefully get rid of the normalshit posters that wonder here every now and again, it'd be fine.

There are some groups I don't particularly like, such as idolfags, but they are very clean people.
Random touhou threads, saten, flanfly, kuroko and such are pretty cute sometimes, I don' t really mind it, even if they are kind of stupid threads.

Meta threads like this aren't so bad in moderation either I guess. As long as there aren't more than 3 on the board at a time anyways. It's like /jp/ checkup.

>> No.8097491

>>8097475
Main characters yeah. They used to be arch-enemies long ago but for well over a decade they've been player-selectable characters. They're not exactly best friends but rather grudgingly get along with each other in order to get things done.

>> No.8097496

>>8097488
Nobody cares about your opinions and shitty meta-thread kid.

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>this is the one in a million threads that is actually trying to be sincerely constructive.

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Do people really think this board is shitty? Well they can go to pooshlmer or /bun/ or the touhouwiki forums.

Everyone on /jp/ is very special and I love you all very much!

>> No.8097515

>>8097496
he says and posts Saten

I as well have to wonder what people except to accomplish by piling shit on top of shit. Although I suppose it's understandable when you don't give a fuck about the board, in which case it's a little strange again that you'd spend so much time and effort to actively make it even worse.

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The strongest 0~

>> No.8097525

>>8097515
That's because Saten is the Queen of /jp/.
Now get the fuck out.

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>>8097515
You sound soo buttfrustrated.

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>>8097525

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>>8097488
>I'm genuinely curious what makes you tick as a person.

That's easy. Saten-sama.

>> No.8097530

>because we alone control just how shitty or not shitty it is
Except we dont, because theres no way to promote better threads while "downvoting" others.
I'm not saying this is a feature that i'd like to see, or would even work on 4chan, however.
Unless you want to start a spam-war with spammers and shitting up good threads with "BUMP, COUNTER-SAGE, ANTI-SPAM BUMP".

>So, I'll ask, quite simply, how do we make /jp/ better?
Janitors with no life and have nothing better to do than refresh /jp/ all day. Oh god its me, why am I such a useless person.

>In other words, what kind of topical, actually useful content do you want to see, that you think /jp/ lacks, but could use more of?
Nothing, the board doesn't need 15 full pages of content. Aside from the spam, shitposting, and misc touhou threads, the other content has everything they need in one.. sometimes two threads. Its kept civil, and usually in an easy to find manner linking previous threads, general resources, and future threads at the bump limit.
Honestly, if it weren't for shit like /b/ raids knocking those threads off page 15, most people wouldn't even notice or care. The threads are pretty self-contained.
The board is literally 100% fine, and only shitty because of fucking spam. Not the actual users themselves.

>> No.8097531

>>8097496

I don't give a shit if people care about what I think, people just need to know what everyone else thinks.

Our userbase has changed a lot since Feb 08, if we can't even get our fucking bearings down on what we all want anymore, which has clearly happened, then the board will just get shittier and shittier. What do you think would do it? A rename again? A more defined topic?

Lend a hand at the very least unless you just want to go down with the ship. No one's the captain though and so we'll all just look like idiots in the process, there's no vindication in just being a bitter ass about it.

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OP, metathreads belong to the archive(s). Go there if you want to wank at walls of metatext.

Though, it's not neededo, we've already come to a conclusion: making metathreads or whining in general is part of the problem; if you care, go make or bump threads you like.

Now, again if you care, delete your thread.

>> No.8097541

>>8097484
Man, those index-spinoffs used to be funny back in S1. Now they're just fucking retarded. At least this one had Saten-sama in it.

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>> No.8097543

>>8097530
tl;dr
Heavy handed moderation and public bannings required.
It won't affect the normal users at all.

>> No.8097544

>>8097527
I meant to sound buttconfused. I pretty much hate /b/ and /v/ and so on, but I'd rather steer clear of them instead of spamming them with pointless drivel. Why you would do the exact opposite, I simply don't understand.

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>>8097544
>Create meta thread
>Whine about shitposters
You are a funny man.

>> No.8097551

Don't try to hide under a guise of "being constructive", please.

It always end up the same as any other metathread.

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Everyday untill christmas.

>> No.8097553

>>8097550
I'm not the OP, and even if I were you're still dodging the subject.

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Saving /jp/ with Saten, one thread at the time.

>> No.8097554

>>8097535

The ghost discussions are very insulated... they're more like a conference behind closed doors/after hours. A chat out on the actual floor with whoever is actually on live /jp/ at the moment, could elicit something different.

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saten sucks

>> No.8097563

>>8097554
You already got two posts, one from a tripfag and one from an anon. What else do you need?
There are like five people on /jp/, and some probably hid the thread already.

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>>8097559
I disagree with your opinion but i respect it.

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>Wake up
>See Saten thread
I get this feeling today will be a good day!

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>>8097559

Oh? I hope you're wearing panties today~

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OP you don't really want to make /jp/ slightly better by trying to make meta-threads, do you.

You want to fuck your mother.

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>> No.8097582

>>8097570
Why does Saten-san look like Kaiji?

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>>8097581

>fred flintstone

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>>8097582
Saten has a eyebrow fetish.

>> No.8097592

>>8097555

Talk about why you think just spamming threads saves /jp/. That sounds like a young and naive self-appointed hero-complex type, which is what drove that Accelerator spammer on /a/ for a while. That never gets anywhere. People like you have cropped up and faded away basically .. well, basically ever since 4chan's been around. They tend to go away with time though.

So you're just manually dumping, willing to spend 2+ hours to hit image limit on one thread? Vindicate yourself with words, since your images are meaningless. This is a challenge to see if you are at all capable of rational discussion.

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>>8097554
Those threads were made by the same userbase under the same conditions. Making them again is unnecessary.

What, you think what I proposed isn't good enough?

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>>8097592
You still sound buttfrustrated to me.

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>> No.8097604

OP I get where you're coming from. I even tried this myself a couple of weeks ago, because I really thought this was a place to be.

But my suggestion to you is to give up.

This place is a shithole. It's a fucking leper pit. It's a swamp, a mire, a polluted lake of asshole behavior and overall shitposting drudgery.

I know where you're coming from OP. You're here because /a/ is a terrible place, and that /v/ doesn't really like what you do.

You're an otaku at heart, and you're really trying to find a place where you belong.


But this isn't it. The title of this place is a fucking lie.

moot hates it here. He hates it for a reason. It's a mess, it's terrible, and no one who is functioning human being should post here.

You'll never find that place where you belong, because /a/ is just as shitty in the end.


My suggestion to you is to just leave. Don't come back. If anything, this place will be gone soon, and no one will have to worry.

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And that is all i will dump for now.
My pizza just arrived at the door.

Have fun with your meta-discussion gentlemen!

>> No.8097607

>>8097598
Nope, I'm just trying to get you to talk. If you continue to just try to sidestep you're just going to look more and more like you can't actually think of reasons to justify yourself.

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>>8097592
I'm not trying to support the shitposter, but

stop talking about why you think just making metathreads saves /jp/. That sounds like a young and naive self-appointed hero-complex type, which is what drove that Accelerator spammer on /a/ for a while. That never gets anywhere. People like you have cropped up and faded away basically .. well, basically ever since 4chan's been around. They tend to go away with time though.

So you're just manually dumping walls of text, willing to spend 4+ hours to hit bump limit on one thread? Vindicate yourself by making good threads, since your metathreads are meaningless. This is a challenge to see if you are at all capable of not being what you criticize.

>> No.8097611

We've had frequent metathreads since October 2008, and no amount of discussion has ever gotten us somewhere. The conclusions are always the same: ignore the bad, contribute more. Also xenophobia and keeping kids out of the board.

As time goes on it becomes more evident that more people have just given up. They either have turned to posting garbage to amuse themselves or just don't care anymore what happens to the board and focus on the few threads that caters to their interests without even peeking on the front page.

There is nothing we can do now. Our time is over and we can't keep holding on, tooth and nail, to an idea of the board that hasn't been there for well over two years. Your metathread is not any different and nothing will change. Even if we got 24/7 moderation things will remain the same.

Better get used to it and go with the flow if you want to remain here. Or join the diaspora. Who knows, we might meet again somewhere else.

>> No.8097613

>>8097605
I was going to say I hope you choke on your pizza but your throat has probably been opened enough from all the cocks that you'd never choke on mere food.

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>>8097605
Enjoy your pizza!

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This is the shitposting board, so people wont shitpost on /a/.
I suggest you shitpost before I report you for not following the rules OP

Lucky we even let you cuntnuggest poast your fuken two who and douying threads on this board.

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>>8097605
Enjoy your pizza anon!
I hope you will be back soon with more Saten-san images~

>> No.8097619

I know a solution, I have though this thoroughly, it's just a simple request to moot to rename this board:

/jp/ - Meta/Shitpost General

Because we have the best quality shitposts in this board, and many, many more quality meta threads, such as this one, our board will be regarded as the best board with the most quality posts on 4chan, maybe on the entire Internet.

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>>8097605

now i want pizza

>> No.8097622

Please, please, please don't contribute to the this thread.

I'm feeling too good for a metathread now. I don't want to see it grow.

>> No.8097625

>>8097604
I don't think I'm quite like you. I've been here since Feb 08, I've seen all the ups and downs. I pretty much never make threads actually (counting this my total's less than five started threads), and rarely even post; this is very unusual of me to do actually. I'm pretty active on ghost but that's not the same.

For people like me and the couple of others who made their their post-split home to stick around this long, whether it's sentimentality or topics there ARE some things /jp/ does very much right even today. There are ways to improvement though, I dare not suggest what I'd do though. This thread isn't about me.

>> No.8097626

>>8097621
I thought saten would like cheesy breadsticks instead.
Suck my marinara sauce, dude.

>> No.8097627

>>8097619
/jp/ - drama
Would fit better

>> No.8097638

>>8097622
Don't lie to yourself, you love the meta threads!

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>>8097625
I like how you ignored all my posts so far. Oh well, I guess it's no use. Now have fun in this shitfest you have the honor of having created.

>> No.8097646

OP here, I give up.
Leaving to a form or something, a place that is actually moderated, and shitposters can't hide under the anonimus tag.
Hopefully we can discuss our ronery in peace there.

>> No.8097643

>>8097626
Marina sauce is the greatest. It's the perfect ratio of juicy and thick so you can multitask while savoring the flavors.

>> No.8097648

>>8097646
Whatever. One less shitposter.

All 5 of us are just fine without you

>> No.8097649

>>8097646
Please delete your thread also.

>> No.8097650

>>8097646
Delete your thread before you leave.

>> No.8097651

>>8097641
I'm not trying to ignore anyone. I don't know which posts were yours, though.

>> No.8097652

>>8097646
Delete thread plz.

>> No.8097654

>>8097646
Maybe you should just hide the damn thread you do not like instead whining. That's what the rest of us do.

>> No.8097657

>>8097646
You're not the OP.

>> No.8097658

>>8097646
>Hopefully we can discuss our ronery in peace there.
Go back to /r9k/.

>> No.8097663

>>8097646
Take it easy, at least you haven't been here for almost 4 years, just seeing the board you loved so much burn itself into the ground out of fucking boredom.
If you want the whole ronery self pity party, may I point you towards tohno chan. They seem to have it good there, feeling their niche of pathetic whining.

That was rude, sorry. It's this topic, it puts me on edge.

>> No.8097667

>>8097663
I've visited TC, but its just a huge circlejerk between a few people.
Think the whole AoC, meru, and company deal, but ten times worse.

Also, I wan't the OP, I was just making joke.
I actually think the op left though, so might as well hide thread and wait for the janitor to get here.

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>>8097651
Yes you are, all my metaposts contain smiling touhous.

However, you don't actually care, you just wanted attention and shit stirred up and you succeeded. Congratulations.

>> No.8097670

Delete your thread, OP.

>> No.8097672

>>8097658
>>8097654
>>8097652
>>8097650
>>8097649

That's not OP. If you guys are so uncomfortable with the thread yet can't bring yourself to hide it, then talk.

Instead of saying the same things that have been said over and over for years, try to say something different. The act of disarming even the concept of discussion of how you would not make /jp/ quite so shitty only serves to undermine the already fractured nature of the userbase here. It was always fractured, I mean it started out that way, but in about a year we had started to fuse, but then we fractured again. Try to imagine a /jp/ that is actually better day-to-day. Don't you want that? If you honestly don't wish to improve /jp/ you can go ahead and get right the fuck out of it. If you force yourself to remain here out of sentiment but don't actually like much of the topics or users, you will do us all a favor by yourselves finally severing the ties you have here.

>> No.8097673

I have a hard time relaxing when there's a metathread up, because I keep franticly refreshing /jp/, hoping that the thread is deleted.

But it rarely is.

>> No.8097676

>>8097672
Didn't bother to read.

>> No.8097677

>>8097673
Autism.

>> No.8097678

>>8097672
I have a better idea. How about you suck my cock, dude?
"Talking" doesn't change anything, not on 4chan. You should know this by now.

>> No.8097680

>>8097676
You're part of the problem.

>> No.8097681

>>8097672
The thing is you really can't do anything about the shitposting unless you're a mod or a janitor.

There's always bound to be one or two trolls lying around. It's best to just ignore it.

>> No.8097683

>>8097680
Don't care.

>> No.8097686

>>8097672
It doesn't work like that: you care, you propose something different. Just pointing out things is shitposting.

>> No.8097689

>>8097673
Keep reporting.

>> No.8097693

>>8097672
Just remember to take it easy.

>> No.8097697

>>8097681

Do you guys remember the White Ren army? Why did we stop doing that? That actually seemed to get outsiders to shut up a decent amount of the time, but it's a lost art nowadays. It shows that we've lost touch with each other over time.

Is there any way we can actually rebuild any of our small fragments of kinship we may have once felt at one time, those feelings that maybe there might be a few people on here that actually care about each other? The group response mechanism we used to have is utterly broken now.

>> No.8097701

>>8097697
No.

>> No.8097703

>>8097697
You mean the shitpost responses?

If super serious guys like OP started shitposting, and shitposters started getting more board concious.

>> No.8097705
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8097705

>>8097697
I got a job until end of this year in a foreign country. I dont have that much time to report and encourage the white ren legion to do the same. Besides it doesnt help, do you really think that meido has so much time to check the report queue.
Anyway, I already reported OP post. You guys should do the same.

>> No.8097708

>>8097701
It seems the only thing we can agree on anymore is how shitty /jp/ is. The thing is, it's a self-fulfilling destiny.. it's shitty because we say it is, because it's still below our idealized standards. We're still not /v/ or /a/ or like most other boards.

>> No.8097710

>>8097705
Funny, I got a job until the end of this year in a foreign country too.

Are you me?

>> No.8097711

>>8097697
What was the point of that?

Anybody could hide White Ren.

>> No.8097714

>>8097708
I miss Bawson.

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8097720

Mister Anderson, I see you're making metathreads again.

>> No.8097726

>>8097708
>how shitty /jp/ is
Seems the same to me, but then I again I only browse VN related threads.
Well there's an increased number of autist but they're easily ignored.

>> No.8097734

>>8097726
My pet theory is that the population of autists grew exponentially the moment they were defined.

Like the pseudoscience in 999 and all that.

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8097736

I actually enjoy spending time on /jp/.
I think this place is great just the way it is.

..This could be my pills talking.

>> No.8097739

Why people even pay attention to these threads after seeing them every day for 3 years is beyond me.

>> No.8097742

/jp/ has always been the same.

People like OP are the ones who come and go. Plus, from what he's been telling us, he hasn't been actually posting enough, of course he wouldn't have experience with that sort of stuff, so he resorts to making metathreads.

>> No.8097740

>>8097443
What the fuck there is no Yuugi smirk in this?

what the hell is wrong with this world?

>> No.8097746

Funny how if you're a White Ren, you've probably been on /jp/ longer than most of the current population.

>> No.8097749

>>8097740
No sleeves. They're integral to a smirkface. I wish there was a Mai, but same problem.

>> No.8097779

>>8097710
Oh really.
See you at Big Sight from 28 to 30 next month.

>> No.8097810

>>8097742
I'm OP. I'm sorry to contradict (and to have made this thread), but /jp/ has not always been the same. In most respects, yes, we've very much always been the same. Even a little better than before. In others, no.

The IRC circle was not always there. /bun/ was not always there. These seem inconsequential, and normally, I very much do not give even a small shit about them. However, they very much wish that we'd give a shit about them. We're like the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. The situation hasn't changed in years besides little useless incidents that cause huge headache. We're all getting too old for this shit. What we see is what we get. We need to remain more insulated than ever from the other boards because we won't get any more splinters (word of moot) and our only other option is to go back to /a/ or to a fetid piece of shit like /bun/ or TC. We get more insulated by getting a better sense of each others' thoughts and wishes for /jp/ so we can better coordinate. The more of us speak out on actually making /jp/ less shitty, the lesser the influence Jones, Sion etc will have, that's the real way to fight them off. Of course I knew this thread would go to shit, but I just wanted to get the idea out there to remind people.. that and to distract everyone from that autism incarnate meta about the buttranger.

I sometimes feel now that such efforts as these are pretty fruitless now though. Everything I just said above.. I fear it's now meaningless to a good chunk of our populace nowadays. Yet, I can't just start out with a rant like that that's not on the ghost board. So what else could I do.

>> No.8097840

One with less chubby.jpg, less cockspam, less whoareyouquoting, not shit metathreads and condense them into a single what are you up to general discussion metathread

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