Touhou Gameplay General

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss your recent achievements, difficulties etc.

I've been trying clearing UFO Lunatic, stage 3 just kills me every time though. Are there any specific parts where I want to collect some coloured UFOs, for example Stage 6 for greens and such?

[Anonymous No.]

Mamizou Tanuki-girl is a whore and I can never be 100% sure that I'll clear any of her spellcards when playing through, which leads to a lot of unnecessary deaths.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

Been playing Ten Desires on easy, still manage to lose by stage 4. I'm working on it, day by day though.
I try to capture spellcards too much and end up dying simply because I didn't bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

Completed IN extra on lunatic with Alice and Marisa while randomly slowing down (apparently controller was half way out of port). Also captured every card.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

>>8073192
Ignoring that extra stages don't have difficulty levels, how does a controller feel in comparison to a keyboard?
Do you use an analog stick or the directional pad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073143
>>8073202
Nobody asked.

Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073192
>extra on lunatic
so much for your charade.

[Anonymous No.]

For the first time ever that I manage to capture Ichirin's first spellcard, it's a fucking timeout.
I captured the attack with 0 power, on the last second.
I'm pretty mad, as I haven't been even able to capture it with like 50 tries before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073254
You mean with 1.00 power right (the minimum)? And on what difficulty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
>I've been trying clearing UFO Lunatic, stage 3 just kills me every time though. Are there any specific parts where I want to collect some coloured UFOs, for example Stage 6 for greens and such?
As someone who has done picture related, I can tell you that I very rarely end stage 3 with more lives than I began. Honestly, having a large number of lives starting stage 4 will hardly help you. I would set your goal to 4 lives trying to clear it. And yes, there are several moments where rainbow UFO's, blues, and even suicides are the appropriate thing to do. Stage 4 is where the resource-farming comes in. I would say that learning that stage there is quite important. The backbone of your game will be finishing Murasa with a decent number of lives.

If you want to request a replay, just tell me.
>>8073254
I can capture it maybe 2/3 of the time. All that I can tell you is to look far for a squeeze through the bullets. You should move even before the boss does. It's a tough card, and even pros hate it. You should probably just bomb it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073262
I had the minimum amount of power, and once I noticed that I was going to capture it when the clock was ticking I just decided to try and time it out, and then just finished it right before it did.
Lunatic mode of course.

[Anonymous No.]

I think I lost all my ability to dodge. I can't get past Nue in the TD extra anymore, used to be able to get halfway through Mamizou. For some reason I'm running into everything on Nue's first spellcard when I didn't used to and I don't think I'll ever capture her second one. But I keep forgetting to bomb because I get close to capturing it nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073326
If that is true, then wait for tomorrow to play. Nue midboss is very easy. The only challenge is collecting the spirits you shoot out of her. You also have the ablility to bomb/trance through her. It probably won't affect your run either way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073265
Well then, do you have a replay or a guide for stage 4? I don't really know which UFO's I'm supposed to grab in that stage, would be nice to know the best route, if there is any.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073340

Well, I beat her this time, even captured everything. And I got to Mamizou's last card. Strangely enough. I had to bomb like crazy against that survival card though, it's way too hard for someone like me.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what it is, but I've been having a lot of trouble timing out Lunasa's second noncard on Lunatic.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing PCB on ultra/easy...without the auto bomb shit. I noticed that I don't have to have full power for item collection. Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally a Touhou thread.

I'm playing Imperishable Night right now. I've searched for an answer but I haven't found one.

What does the phantom meter actually do and does it matter which side I'm on? Also, what's the difference between being focuses and unfocused?

[Riz No.]

>>8073352
I'm going to be working on a ND-NB UFO stage 4. In stage 4, you get bombarded with tokens. This allows for a loose interpretation of your path and a higher tolerance for mistakes, compared to the earlier levels.
I think this run features a good stage 4: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16551
I use a bomb and miss a life piece, but that's negligible. It's usually a good idea to bomb where I did, otherwise a lot of the tokens get away. Bombing in the piece after that is also recommended, since it is difficult to dodge and the tokens are hard to get. You will want to collect greens from the greater fairis near the end, and enter stage 5 with some green tokens.
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16765


I tried doing a no-bomb Hard mode 1cc with MarisaB. It's funny how hopping from Lunatic to Hard can mess you up. Still, I haven't been playing this game lately, and it was my very first run of the day, so I guess that I can improve it. Some of this stuff was is embarassing. I should have done some stage practice. Still, I think the first 3 stages are great.
>>8073455
The phantom guage only matters if you are scoring or using continues. Switching characters is just part of your shot type. The youkai generally does more damage.

I'm not the best at IN, but there is also: http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073455
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Gameplay#Phantom_Gauge
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Imperishable_Night/Strategy#Phantom_Gauge

[Anonymous No.]

What are these danmaku supposed to be? Cone shaped rocks with red liquorice tied to them with a rope?
And why did my screen shot come out so bad.
Wow! There's pickled stones falling from the sky!
>How romantic!
>If the sky's full of those, then I can totally make a sweet >combination platter.
What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073602
For more esoteric mineralogy, play Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.

[Anonymous No.]

What are these danmaku supposed to be? Cone shaped rocks with red liquorice tied to them with a rope?
And why did my screen shot come out so bad.
>Wow! There's pickled stones falling from the sky!
>How romantic!
>If the sky's full of those, then I can totally make a sweet
>combination platter.
What.
I messed up, I'm reposting this.
>>8073608
>For more esoteric mineralogy, play Scarlet Weather Rhapsody.
These are SWR characters. I suppose that I could find answers there.

[Anonymous No.]

I made a post, messed it up, then I messed it up again by forgetting my screenshot, then I accidently made a new thread on the board. Now I'm thoroughly disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

I played IN for the first time yesterday. It was my first Touhou game.

I had to turn it down to easy and I still didn't complete it.

I guess I'm not worthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073649

Don't worry about it. First time I played, I absolutely sucked. I started with UFO, didn't know focus movement or bombing and couldn't even beat stage 1 on Normal, nowadays I can clear Normal mode on most of the games. It just takes a bit of playing to get better. I'd probably be better than I am now if I played more actually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073649
It took me two weeks to beat my first easy mode, and I ended up doing this: >>8073265

Just keep practicing. If you practice, you can be as good as you want to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073649
First, play Normal. I usually play Hard when learning and drilling stages even when I am aiming to complete Normal, just to get more out of it and have it easier in the actual playthrough.

Second, while IN is easy to learn -read the game rules, that should help a LOT-, it teaches bad habits and is generally a bad one to start with. PCB is equally easy on Normal and doesn't hurt you at all in the other games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073665
I think this post and its would be an adequate explanation: http://archive.foolz.us/jp/thread/7938337#p7942608

I was playing lunatic just before I beat hard, and I think it does help, but not for Easy mode. To beat Easy mode, all you need to do is learn the game mechanics and controls. Dodging skill always comes later by itself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073689
>I think this post and its would be an adequate explanation
Oh my, why am I making so many mistakes today. Maybe all that programming fried my brain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073665
I'm going to try PCB. Hopefully this one doesn't have an obscene high score already in the game file that discourages me from continuing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073694
Delete your score.dat. Do it in every game, especially IN, because there is a lot of stuff to unlock in that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073694
Where did you download the game from? If you want to clear the scores, just delete the score.dat file. The game will create a new one if it can't find it. Every level has a 1,000,000 hiscore by default.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073702
/rs/

I didn't want to bother you guys by making a thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe you guys can guide me a little here. I've done everything that I can easily do (kind of) and I'm not sure where I should focus my efforts next. Here's what I need to do still:
EoSD Lunatic (hit Remilia on a random run but haven't practiced since)
MoF Lunatic (haven't made it past Aya, no good at this game)
SA Lunatic (haven't even attempted it, I only cleared Hard last month)
UFO Hard (made it to Byakuren a few times, but I'm shit at every pattern in this game)
TD Hard (really need to knock this out, just haven't tried much)
And then UFO/TD Lunatic obviously, but one step at a time. Everything else I've cleared on Lunatic or can't play (PC98 doesn't agree with my gamepad.) Of the stuff I have left, what do you think I should go for next? I have no real preference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073694
Okay.

A basic mechanic that you will need to perfect over your time playing touhou is a deathbomb-pressing bomb as you are hit, saving yourself from death by obliterating the projectile. In IN, you have a lot of time after your bullet touches your hitbox. In PCB, it is not so much at all, so don't be afraid to just bomb everything. I myself die on Chen even in 1cc playthroughs, it's my curse.
Also, the propably best way to 1cc any of the games is what you might find yourself doing in the end: learn to consistently do the first three stages without loss of life(harder to do in the later games), then Stage Practice fourth, then fifth, then just bomb through the final boss. That's what most people do. You only need to try the playthrough a lot of times and get to know the two stages, their bosses and their gimmicks and if not how to beat what, then even just when to bomb what.

Also, in PCB, it is very important to learn how to pick as much point items as possible, since extra lives are always good, and by being a pussy in stage 4, you can easily lose even two whole lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073708
pick one you like and shoot for an arbitrary high score that you think is reachable

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073719

I've already gotten the scores I wanted in the games I enjoy scoring in (PCB and IN.) I'm only after new clears at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody else see bullet patterns when you close your eyes after playing a session?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073837
I've played this game for over 30 hours straight before, so yes. It's a norm for me. Damn low frequency CRT's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073689
Please don't use that archive.

[Anonymous No.]

Ichirin... why.

120fps UFO Normal. It's harder than Lunatic for sure.

>>8073871
Why wouldn't we use it? I prefer it over the other one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073935
>I prefer it over the other one.
There's really no reason to prefer it over the ones without ads.
Well, search isn't working in dyndns, but warosu at the very least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073956
>>8073935
>I prefer it over the other one.
There's really no reason to prefer it over the ones without ads.
Well, search is pretty slow in dyndns, but warosu at the very least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073962
Oh god, what possessed me to link to my own deleted post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073962
Unlike the Wikia X Touhouwiki debate, I don't really see any glaring flaws in the foolz archive, compared to the warosu one. Ads don't mean anything, by the way, as the ones in foolz don't get in the way at all and you can just AdBlock them away if you so desire.
Anyway, let's not start more archive wars, okay. Things are already silly enough as they are.

[Anonymous No.]

Almost made my first ever 1cc on IN on Hard a few weeks ago (game over at one of Kaguya's earlier spells). Haven't gotten close ever since. Oh well, maybe 2012 will be a better year for Touhou than the past two years.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

gaymoo is gay

[Anonymous No.]

bummmmmmp

[Formura No.]

I only have a laptop right now, and the ghosting is killing me. It's fine having to tap direction keys rather than holding them, but when I can't deathbomb because I haven't released a key, that's where I draw the line. I can still almost 1cc a few of the games on normal, but I feel like I could do so much better if I didn't have this. Yet, at the same time, it seems like so much of a hassle to buy a USB keyboard for this one thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8074195
get a pad

[Anonymous No.]

i just have done th13 with marisa then meet a new character in extra stage
im so sad because it's not mima

[Anonymous No.]

>>8074195
Or remap your keys.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck my life, almost perfect stage 6 EoSD on lunatic, died on the last wave at Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thinking I'm getting some lag between when I push buttons and when my character moves. It seems to be most apparant while playing Imperishable Night.

Is there any possible truth in this statement, or am I just imagining things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8074331
Use the vsync patch.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Game_Tools_and_Modifications#Vsync_Patches

[Anonymous No.]

I cannot play Touhou while talking on Skype. I'm too dependant on the music. I wonder what would happen if I play Touhou with different music. Either setting my 3 month long library to shuffle, or picking a nice playlist and playing it whenever I start a game. I wonder if changing the music would affect my gameplay.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

>>8075231
You'd be distracted by certain songs you like, as well as trying to think "What is this song?" in addition to songs changing also distracting you.
You also likely associate certain parts of stages with certain parts of the music, so changing it would hurt your advantage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8076058
There's also how most stages are synced to the music that plays on them (unless you're not at constant 60 FPS), so turning it off or changing it would only hinder you.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

>>8076100
doesn't the music unsync during the midboss of the stage due to different card times?

[Anonymous No.]

Icc PCB on Normal with Reimu and Sakuya... Tomorrow I try Marisa

[Anonymous No.]

>>8076129
It depends on the stage. In general (but definitely not always), stage 1 and 3 will desync, and the rest of the game will extend the stage portion if you kill a midboss early. This fact becomes important in UFO, for example, since bombing through Nazrin in Stage 5 is beneficial to score because of the extra fairies you get to kill.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else here play IN with starting lives other than 3? I've 1cc'ed IN on normal just now but I started with six lives, doesn't feel like an achievement at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8076843
you do get like 5-7 extends, plus the 2 default lives should be really enough to clear the game. Just don't burn away everything until you reach the stage 4 bosses. After them it's just downhill.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. No.]

I'm grinding in SA Lunatic, Now I can make it to Orin without dying/bombing... I don't think it's a great achievement, as she rapes me everytime.


>>8073935
>120fps UFO Normal.

I hope you are doing this on purpose, if not you should use the vsync patch...


>>8074218
Or use a USB keyboard.


>>8076058
>You'd be distracted by certain songs.

I get the opposite effect, some songs activate my Jedi mode.

Give it a try, fight PCB Yukari while listening to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2bVK60Vk7k

AND FEEL BURNING PASSION OF DANMAKU

[Anonymous No.]

I've been told to try to beat the extras before the Hard modes, but I've been struggling on the extras more than Hard mode, with the exception of UFO Hard and how completely ridiculous it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8077324
gives you a great idea how retarded LUNATIC is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8077340

Yeah. Perhaps the problem is that I'm playing Sanae A, but I can't abandon her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8077340
Not so retarded anymore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p-NKrKEF9g

[Anonymous No.]

>>8075231
For some reason, talking with other people on Skype/Mumble while being drunk makes my gameplay better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8076843
Usually on a clear you want to start with the default amount of lives.

[nght_of !kNGhTSucXc No.]

Tried lunatic EosD today, fuck Sakuya, knifes behind knifes behind knifes behind knifes behind knifes
and each one pointing in a different direction.

I should stick to normal and avoid those headaches.

[Anonymous No.]

Today I completed Ten Desires on hard without continues (It was just my 3rd try overall with this game) and I noticed its considerably easier than any other Touhou I've played before.
If you were to compare it to, say, EoSD in hard, finishing Ten Desires is the equivalent to getting to what stage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078268
I agree with you 100%. Lost 4 lives on a Lunatic clear attempt today on her, and I've managed to perfect the stage before. First and second nonspells and Killing Doll are the worst.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078278
Difficult to say, but around stage 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078287
By frist nonspell you're referring to her first boss-nonspell, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078244
well yeah, when you play it to death, you can fuck around in any touhou game.
For the mortal, normal touhou player, this is still retarded, say what you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078761
Yes. The stage is not difficult at all.

[Anonymous No.]

So whats with SA's normal difficulty?
why is it so hard?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078892
once I got past the "stuff you need to see and feel once/twice in order to understand" and knew where to place my bombs, it was not difficult at all. Same goes for other difficulties.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

>>8078892
SA is abnormally difficult overall.

[Anonymous No.]

When playing UFO extra, do you have a pattern or specific order of picking up the UFOs? I just improvise every time and it isn't going very well. Overall I would say the stage is pretty hard, but Nue herself is pretty easy compared to the other EX bosses.

[nght_of !kNGhTSucXc No.]

>>8078892
Because the extend system in SA is mean, also fucking Rin and Yuugi, while the game itself is not as hard as UFO, but at least in UFO you can get shittons of lives exploiting his broken system while SA every time you die you lose 1 life and 1/6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078905
Which shot type are you using?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078999
ReimuB (homing)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078892

Satori having some spellcards that are tougher than the stage they came from, even when the cards she took are from an Extra stage, Orin being annoying to hit, Utsuho and her annoying final spellcard. But it's a bit more lenient in some ways since you can bomb as long as you have power. Don't get me started on SA Extra. I'm not going to touch that for a long time, it wrecked me and not in the fun way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079029
SA Extra wrecked you? Not in the fun way? Well you should wreck SA Extra, and it should be definitely fun. Try harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079009
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16778
I'll do a ReimuB run next, and I'll try to make it better. This run shows a good path.

My screen started to glitch during Kogasa's second spellcard, so finishing it was anightmare.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079035

I did my best and I still only got to Koishi's first card. I'd have better luck with UFO Hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079035
I've played all the extras except UFO and SA was definitely the hardest of them. It was just so extremely frustrating, especially the last card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079042
Thanks! I'm going to watch it tomorrow, it's getting late here.

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16779
SDKLFHASDLK;FJASDLKFJ SO CLOSE TO PERFECT NUE

Well, I've been playing all day today, so I'm not very good at the moment. Maybe I'll go for some ND/NB extra stages tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079139
NBNM that mode Riz.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078860
Excuses. You too could become like that with practice. Anybody could. Stop dismissing things as impossible or immortal and you'll get better much quicker.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally unlocked Hatate on Double Spoiler, after failling a thousand times the 3 required EX spells, I beat them on my first try today....wich is kinda weird..

I love Hatate, now I can pretty much clear any spellcard without any effort. I'll try to beat Shoot the Bullet now, I'm stuck at LVL 10.

[Anonymous No.]

I beat Touhou 6 on Normal! The gamepad made it a lot easier.

[Anonymous No.]

Two months ago my last achievement was reaching level 4 of UFO on easy.

Then network management class happened, there was no time to lay my hands on Touhou when I had to lay them on Oracle VM VirtualShit, Vyatta Linux, Cacti and syslog-ng, and only now that I'm all sick like shit did I finally had any time to play Touhou.

Dear fuck, I've become rust as hell. Two months ago I could clear level 3 of Imperishable on normal without losing a life. Now I lost like three due to extremely fucking stupid mistakes and I ended up Master Sparking my way through Keine...

[Anonymous No.]

I had a lot of bogus deaths in this run, since this is my first time playing in forever. I'm just about to go to bed, and I decided to take this as my one last run of the day. I'll get this tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080093
You will get your skill back quite soon, faster than you did the first time. It may seem like you are poor, but once you pull that next wonderdodge you will feel as good as ever.

As usual, feel free to ask us for help.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitty Buddhist Diamond go die in fire.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

I can now officially say I've met someone who considers themselves an avid Touhou fan yet has never played a single game. I then realized I'd convinced myself that such people didn't really exist, and all my illusions came crashing down around me.
But oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou 6's normal was easy enough for me, but Touhou 11's easy difficulty is too much for me. I keep dying on the first level. Is it one of the harder games in the series? Or is 6 just the easiest?

[Anonymous No.]

Generally 6 is moderate difficulty wise, and 11 is quite hard. Although I have no idea in Easy mode survival

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080170
6: Advanced
7: Intermediate
8: Easy
10: Intermediate
11: Advanced
12: Hard (I swear UFO's Easy is equivalent to Imperishable's Normal).
13: Intermediate

[None !tX4X5rrku2 No.]

>>8080133

After getting my act together and like 4 retries due to incredibly fucking stupid bogus deaths here's my replay of IN stage 3 on normal.

Actually, the reason why I only lost one life to Keine was because deathbombing on IN is easy and I deathbombed like 3 times IIRC. D:

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16784

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080168
It must have been incredibly hard to maintain that fantasy

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080047
the difference is that not everyone is autistic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8078278
I think Ten Desires is much like Embodiment in difficulty. Ten Desires has more difficult patterns, but Embodiment has the most bare-bones gameplay of the series and thus there's very little you can do to save yourself apart from bombing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080439
TD would be a pretty cool game without trance mode. Someone should patch it out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080343
The replay, in my case, sadly desynchs at Keine's penultimate card - having you dying to it - and - the final card several times in a row. However, I assume that did not happen on your actual run, so I'll skip that.

But, first things first.

You're aiming for your first 1CC of the game on normal, right? Given that, you should not play on Magic team. I know they have cool laser beams, klepthomanic witches n' fun bits of dialogue. But the gameplay on MAlice team isn't easy, due to the fact that Alice deals medicore damage to a ridiculously small area and her bombs don't really do damage when compared to, well, any other bomb in IN. Not to mention her speed being fast - fast even on when you're focused. So yeah - it's harder to dodge stuff with her.

Apart from that, I find the route you use during the stage being somewhat useful, and even a bit safe. You do, first of all, nuke down the familiars on Keine's noncards to lessen the spam - good.

And you handle stuff rather well in the stage, not getting cornered - or walled - more than one time. So I assume that you have the streaming basics of IN stage 3 in your mind.

For the stage gameplay or specific spell cards, I don't have much else to say. (I missed the final 2, sadly) If you want some specific help with some specific card, you can try to look a replay up from the uploader, or I can give some advice, if you ask.

[None !tX4X5rrku2 No.]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

SIX RETRIES IN I JUST CAN'T REACH KEINE'S LAST SPELL AND I REACHED IT LIKE AN HOUR AGO D:

It's 3:40 AM already and I gotta go to sleep. I'm done with Touhou for today... and until December, for this purpose, because tomorrow I have school work again, and it will be an uninterrupted, continuous barrage of assignment after assignment that will only stop once vacations finally begin. Farewell, my dear Marisa... it was so fun to play with you... ;_;

>>8080480
Up until now I felt like Marisa/Alice was the team that suited me best because Marisa's shots lose little firepower as they travel upwards. If I can sneak a few minutes of Touhou tomorrow I'll see how it works out with Sakuya/Remilia since I think they're the closest equivalents, though I honestly don't feel comfortable with how much Sakuya's knives spread out...

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Any tips for Foggy London Dolls in PCB?
Also tips for those fucking musicians when playing as Marisa. Why does Marisa get it so hard ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
I like IN right now, but because when I did drugs I played much better (lol yes), I'm "starting again" with PCB playing with Marisa (always Normal difficulty).
I used to beat PCB with Reimu on Normal. I want that back, with Marisa now.
And then move on to IN.

And BTW, Adderall and Lyrica improves my skills like 150%, for real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
Does deleting the scores.dat files work in all Touhou games too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080851
yeah, it won't break anything, it just erases all high scores, spellcard histories, unlocks, etc.

It's good to start fresh

[Anonymous No.]

EoSD Lunatic, 90fps or No bomb clear more difficult?

[Anonymous No.]

It's funny, I can beat the first two levels of PCB on Lunatic yet I can't get past stage 3 on easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080869
sounds like you are just bombing until you run out of lives in both cases

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>8080371
Nah, wasn't really that bad. I just had to avoid reading any Youtube comments ever and more or less restrict myself to the gameplay topics of discussion boards and whatnot. Plus there's a certain plausible deniability, where if they don't go out and say that they've never played ever or even cared to, then I can sorta convince myself they maybe have.
Unfortunately though, I met this person offline and made the mistake of asking them directly if they'd played any...

>>8080807
Uh, I guess just move slowly with precision, and read as far up into the card vertically as you can, to let you position yourself more favorably with as much advance warning as possible. It's more or less straightforward though, so I'm not sure what else to say.

>>8080809
But Lyrica is Sakuya's Prismriver, not Marisa's, right?

[Anonymous No.]

I was finally able to get past Reimu on IN on normal without having to continue.
Yeah i had to continue at Reisen but the point stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
lol, trust me, you're not the first person to misundertand it.

This is what I meant with Lyrica improving your gaming skills.

[Moshalas !MosH/4muBQ!!G7x2SYOMvzp No.]

Managed to clear PCB using ReimuB on all difficulties, plus Extra/Phantasm. I've cut down on my mistakes and improved reflexes, as well as getting used to unfocused movement.

Sometimes these runs can take hours to get to a good standard, since I get annoyed having to restart after early mistakes. I still can't supergraze Letty's first spell properly on Lunatic. Every time I try it, my border gets cancelled and I can't follow the expert replays properly.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it. Why is TD stage 4 so much harder compared to stage 5? Hell, I even felt at times like it's harder than stage 6, barring some spells... Is it just me?

[Moshalas !MosH/4muBQ!!G7x2SYOMvzp No.]

>>8080926
Feels to me that the game starts off difficult, while the pressure dies down a lot on the later stages. Stages 3 and 4 however really put me to the test and feel similar to some of the harder games in the series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080926

TD stage 4 is harder if you use any character but Youmu. For some reason the game seems designed around her, otherwise the difficulties seem all mixed around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080962
Yeah, I thought it was something like that. I had a real easy time going through the stages with her... until stage 6 fucks me over sideways. I can't seem to get high enough to get those slashes in, and Miko seems to just love hugging the top of the screen.

Also, does anyone seriously use Sanae here? She used to be so good in UFO, but now I feel she's just meh.

[Anonymous No.]

I died on Yuyuko in PCB. Got farther ahead than I did last time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008
Question /jp/ : should I bother configuring an USB PS2-like joystick to play Touhou, or keyboard it's the way to go?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081049
stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick stick


This is a genre MADE for sticks after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081049

Well, you should at least try it out. I personally can't go back from using a keyboard, but it's a good idea to at least try it out and see if you prefer it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081049
stick all the way

[Anonymous No.]

>>8080875
>But Lyrica is Sakuya's Prismriver, not Marisa's, right?

Nope, that's Merlin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8073008

Joypad: struggling made it to third level in PCB
Keyboard: feeling like I had absolute control again, made it to Youmu in PCB

It's a shame I can't make use of the Joypad, but after years of playing Touhou on a keyboard, well, keyboard it's the way to go.

Arrows+shift feels just perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081219
made it to Youmu in PCB? Playing touhou for years?
what have you been doing the entire time?

I for one feel really stiff without my pad.

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to 1cc Mystic Square, no luck so far. Alice always manages to surprise me at least once and there goes 4 bombs and a life down the toilet as well as my chance to 1cc. I'm getting tired of her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081344
If you haven't been doing this already, Alice is made much easier by not firing at all when the two dolls are holding that mirrorplate thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8081372

Yeah, I already do that. The big thing is there's these tiny white bullets. Sometimes they appear out of nowhere and I think, what the hell just hit me? I'm getting sick of it.

[Riz No.]

That was very fun. VoWG is one of my favorite spellcards. I even had some very nice dodges. You have to love the amulet's hitbox.
What if UFO had VoWG.
I'm not sure if I should use Piercing Reimu instead of Homing Reimu, but I'm planning beating the game with every shot, so it hardly matters.

[Anonymous No.]

>What if UFO had VoWG.
One less spellcard to worry about in UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, that's a MoF Lunatic clear as Homing Reimu. It was a bit messy at times, but I'm still happy. It's my first Lunatic clear outside of UFO. I'm going to beat it with a few more shots.

[Anonymous No.]

Just recently 1CC'd SA Normal. Tried Koishi but I need a break in difficulty, I'm not God. I'm now in UFO and I find it pretty easy compared to SA, but how the fuck do I curvy lazers? Also Untzan is a bitch with his eye lazors.

[Riz No.]

>>8082087
I find that SA has the hardest Easy/Normal, while UFO hast the hardest Hard/Lunatic.

This run beats all three of Shou's nonspells: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16551

In terms of difficulty, from easiest to hardest, I would rank them as 3,1,2. I would give them an attempt, but be very ready to bomb as soon as something goes wrong. As for Unzan, he is hard. I wrote about him here: >>8073265

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16804

I just can't do it. I might as well give up and do it with Marisa instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082514
Get on irc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082514
wait, what's that

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082532

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082546
>>8082532

HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082557
a hole

[PRINNY !nLFbzB/0pw No.]

>>8082560
Looks like an eye more than anything.

[Anonymous No.]

It's a knot in the wood.

[Anonymous No.]

Ey, Anonymizer, how do ya go around with this noncard?

Also, ya want to chat about PCB extra scorin' some day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8084693
That's like the easiest noncard, just stream it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8084698
Yes, it's easy survivalwise. However, I'm talking about scoring, here. :V

[Anonymous No.]

>>8084706
Just move on to the next, unless you can move along the circles unfocused.

Also
>:V
stop that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8082525
Server and #channel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8079139
Just watched it, awesome job on the green and rainbows UFO invasion spellcards, some great dodges there. But I was most impressed with how you managed to get to Nue with so many lives and bombs... In my best run I only managed to reach Nue with 3 lives and 1 bomb - the stage section after Kogasa always kills me.
Oh well, good to know I have so much room for improvement!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8084693
>>8084706
>However, I'm talking about scoring, here.
>Shooting focused during that noncard
Uh.

And you'd be able to find Anonymizer in the IRC channel mentioned below.

>>8085053
#PoFV on Rizon

>>8085093
>But I was most impressed with how you managed to get to Nue with so many lives and bombs...
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=13071
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8084693
Standard way. Stay a short distance above the bottom then tap over every other waves. Or move up so you can tap over every wave (and graze a little more).

>>8084706
>Yes, it's easy survivalwise. However, I'm talking about scoring, here.

So you mean that thing where you treat it as a circular pattern and move down from the side to graze the edge. I've been too lazy to attempt that, but that should be all there is to it.

>Also, ya want to chat about PCB extra scorin' some day?

Like what. We're all replay-watching faggots.

I had an image somewhere where I died to that noncard, but it's probably in the external hard drive that I don't want to look for.

[nawt No.]

>>8081632
>what if UFO had vowg
then the game would be perfect

[Anonymous No.]

>>8085180
As I pointed out, that specific run sucks balls. Most likely since it was my first ever 1CC of Ran, and my only replay I had saved off her. And I wasn't in the mood to throw a run with some actual playin'.. Ohwell. And yeah, I really did shoot focused and die on a lot of stuff on that run.

Also, my webchat's somewhat lagging with that specific channel, so I wasn't able to join and chat there yesterday. And, the exactly same thing happened today. This means that I'll most likely install mIRC to my school's computars.

>>8085265
Yeah, well, I've only watched one of HS's replays off Ran and some other player's ones. But I've wondered if there's a way to do some supergrazin'. (I may be too fond of graze being a matter of score. I blame EoSD.) So, look at the pic.

Since the bullets Ran shoots are aimed at ya, I wonder if ya could do it really near to the boss, circlin' around and gathering some grazes.

The green circle shows the area, where most of the people graze this. At least with Sakuya's grazebox. However, I've been wondering if you could do it around the red - or even the orange - circles. And gain almost every single graze you could off this noncard.

However.. uhh.. I dunno if that actually works.

Anyway, I'm really rusty with PCB extra. As you can see from the image, I didn't really focus on grazin' or scoring (lolihaz5bombs), just went to take the pic'. I quess I'll do some run's just to get the gist of the spell cards again. And then to look more into the scoring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8087857
And this is how the run ended.

I didn't actually beat Ran, since I died to stuff like, her final noncard, three times. I'm.. rusty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8085265
>wave*

>>8087857
I think Kagamin does it more than HS, but not to the extent shown in that picture (doesn't the first of the two rings fire out pretty fast?). I don't care so much for PCB scoring that I'm going to be anal about something like that. Not even that, is it? It should be simple to carry out once you know the proper distance, but I just don't care that much.

[Anonymous No.]

>I don't care so much for PCB scoring that I'm going to be anal about something like that.
It doesn't look like that from my point of view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8088749
This is how lazy I am. I won't even try to make Hourglass work so I can practice stuff deep in the stage. So if I make it to that noncard I'm not going to bother testing it. With Marisa a little, but no one else. If I made a critical error earlier I probably wouldn't go through with the run to practice the later bits because I'd rather be restarting instead of evaluating myself.

I don't have the qualities you'd want in a scorerunner. I hate challenging myself and I take things extremely slowly. Hell, until two weeks ago I never bothered milking Princess Tenko (incidentally, this is the first time I've failed it because of greed and tapping over too little, eating the bubble). However, thanks to your post I did sit higher during the noncard in this failed Reimu-A run.

I dabble a tiny bit in theoretical number games. I probably won't go through with most of those ideas, and I'm not crazy about trying to get others to apply skewed risk/reward methods (not yours).

"Hey Utsuho's opener has this safespot in the middle why don't the WRs do that."

"Because the risk is too high for something so late in the game that would only yield a few million."

"But it would still be cool if they did that."

[Anonymous No.]

Sup blog.

[Anonymous No.]

Hi, how's it going. Okay I guess. The noncard before Princess Tenko ended in a bad spot so I had to shoot at Ran for a while before the border would pop up. That pushed everything back until I couldn't summon a border as the first red phase started during Ultimate Buddhist. I overestimated the cherry rate for Reimu-A so I also didn't summon a border during the survival like I expected to.

[Anonymous No.]

UFO is terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090823
Sounds like you need a quick guide to the UFO system.

God tier: Blue UFO (if you reject powerups and go straight for the score record, you are one of the few players who knows exactly what Touhou shmups are all about)
High tier: Green UFO (a real Touhou player needs to worm out of a tight spot with his own skills and wits, bombs are the only acceptable game modifier)
Low tier: Rainbow UFO (save your "free gifts for everyone" pinatas for the Cinco de Mayo or other made-up spic holidays, Touhou players don't have to be spoonfed powerups every five minutes)
Shit tier: Red UFO (not only does it reward the lowest points, but stocking up on lives is a sign of weakness)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090833
I rather just not play UFO and concentrate on the other, better games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090823

UFO has pretty much the best stage 6 in the series, at least I think so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090873
If best means kick in the balls then maybe you're right.
>>8090833
Stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090833
>High tier: Green UFO
>Low tier: Rainbow UFO
You know absolutely nothing about UFO's scoring system. Stop pretending and get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090833
>Low tier: Rainbow UFO
>go straight for the score record

Confirmed for not knowing jack shit about scorefagging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8090846
There's nothing above #1

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

Any general tips for Tenshi? Or specific ones, for that matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091217
In Double Spoiler? Watch replays.

In Hisoutensoku? Spectate matches. Also 6B.

[Anonymous No.]

> Finally got around to playing FSN
> Been playing for 30+ hours
> Still haven't gotten past first route.

I know I'm a slow reader, but what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

Wrong thread bro.

[Anonymous No.]

http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16849
UFO Lunatic MarisaA 1cc. Before you get your hopes up, yes, it is by Riz.

It's a poor run because it is very sudden, I did not practice at all for this. I just did it to say that I have the replay. I intend to impove it. This is still my proudest one: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16551

I'm still trying to beat most of the other games on Lunatic. I just can't get myself to play them like I can UFO. I can make crappy UFO Lunatic replays 24/7, but I still feel like I'm not good at anything right now. At least not until I settle down. Of course, the final goal is to beat every game on every difficulty on every shot-type, with logical exceptions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091288
FSN?

>>8091613
There's something so wrong about that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091631
>There's something so wrong about that picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091660
The "I fucking love brooms" always makes me smile

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091660
Got the other one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091766
Did he ever do any more?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8091821
http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?41929-PHANTASMAGORIA-OF-LOTUS-DEITY-Touhou-in-Sweet-Bro-Hel
la-Jeff-format

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

These threads used to be a lot more active, but then everyone complains when the current one goes 404.

[Anonymous No.]

just 1cc'd mystic square on hard

now trying lunatic ;_;

[Knot No.]

>>8093791
Nice SA hitboxes. Have some UFO ones.

[Knot No.]

>>8093828
picture

[Anonymous No.]

Today I discoverd that Seiga's cards involving curvy lasers are way easier unfocused.
I just keep practising, hope to 1cc TD before christmas.

[Anonymous No.]

How about some tate

[Anonymous No.]

Let's play some danmaku!

[Anonymous No.]

I finally 1cc'd UFO normal recently.

...And then proceeded to die to EX Kogasa's third spell...

[Moshalas !MosH/4muBQ!!G7x2SYOMvzp No.]

Recently attempted the TH11 Extra as ReimuA. Left it alone for weeks and I actually came down to reaching the last spell. Those giant flame clouds freaked me out and caused me to lose concentration. I was alright most of the time, despite some annoying parts of the level.

[Anonymous No.]

what is the post limit on /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

I have just died 4 times in a row on midboss Sanae's SA. I keep running into the back of a laser on her first spellcard. As much as I love Touhou, running into the back of lasers is the worst thing ever. It brings my bodily fluids boil, and then consequently makes steam come out of my ears. Ichirins last spell also gets me with this. There is nothing worse than dying to an undefined hitbox. Getting the hitboxes right is one of the most important things to making a good shump, if not the very most important thing.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>8096666
>Those giant flame clouds
They're roses, man. It's not called Subterranean Rose just 'cause ZUN liked the name.

Well, it sorta is, but that's not the point.

>>8098185
Same as any other blue board.

[Anonymous No.]

You are going up

[Anonymous No.]

>>8098185
There's a post limit? Image limit is 152, the thread can be bumped until what..250 posts? 300?

[Anonymous No.]

Back from my break, and I'm having lots of difficulty with the Fairy Wars extra stage portion. I suppose I have gotten a bit worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>playing TD
>normal mode
>Reimu
>eating everything in my path
>fuck up on stage 5, lose all my lives
>start stage 6, have about 15/18 a life
>UNLEASH THE RAGE
>holy shit...I did it...

Uploading the replay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8102768
http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=16887
Alright, so there was a bit of lag. I think I was dropping 5 fps.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>8102758
At least you can take solace in the fact that its opening segment's music is absolutely amazing. Perfect for how the stage builds up more and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8102780

Well, that is nice, but the later sections wreck me. The parts with the yellow fireballs. I usually only get to Marisa with one or two lives and then I can't enjoy Magus Night enough because I don't get far enough against Marisa.

[Anonymous No.]

I cleared Extra IN with Reimu team and Normal with 3 teams. The only team left is Marisa, which i tried 3 times. I didn't do badly but Alice's shot is so hard to use effectively, and Marisa unfocus is too fast to control. I lost 5 lifes to Kaguya because i spent the whole time dodging and died, couldn't get directly below her to shoot.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>8102796
I found the yellow sections are generally easier if you move very strategically. The parts where the fairies come from left and right just above midscreen needs U-movement almost like you'd see in stage 5 DoDonPachi, and the part right after that you need to swing back and forth killing the fairies as they spawn in between icings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8102780
The best part is when the mood lightens in the refrain coinciding with Lily and Daiyousei

[Anonymous No.]

>>8102808

I know how to do the last part, I usually do a sort of figure eight movement which usually works, but I've been messing up a lot more lately and just clumsily running into stuff. Then there's the part right after the knife fairies where they just shoot the fireballs at you and the green bullets just in your general direction making it very difficult to escape. I've managed to survive it before, but I can't now.

[Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA No.]

>>8102822
Yeah, a big part of the fireballs and knives part right after Lily and Dai is killing fairies as they spawn while you're still regaining ice. I forget to do that sometimes, which almost always means a bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

I've just started tackling Koishi and i have to say her heart projectile shit just fucks me up because i have no idea what the hitbox really is.

Does anybody have an image that would show it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8103146

Right in this thread.
>>8093791

[Anonymous No.]

I decided to give SA Extra one last go before I entirely give up on it, but I still really dislike it. It feels dumb, and not dumb in the exciting way, it's just depressing to play.

[Anonymous No.]

Trying to 1CC TD on hard
I've got all the spellcards up to 4.4 down, so it's only a matter of time.
I'm having so much fun though, I started playing touhou a lot a couple of weeks ago and I can see why the fandom is so huge. I love the music in EoSD through to UFO.

[Anonymous No.]

Bought a joystick for $20. Analog made me cum buckets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8104101
>Analog
But shmups don't register analog.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8104513

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8104517
They convert it into digital inputs. Surely you know this.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8104552
The use of an analog joystick with precise mechanical components. For sensitive pleasure.

[Anonymous No.]

You have a new joystick? Let's see it in action. Post a replay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8104690
To be honest, its worst than when I'm playing with the keyboard. That's to be expected I guess. So no, no replays.Yet.