/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Hey /jp/ if you live in the EU you are fucked.

http://theantifeminist.com/eu-directive-child-abuse-passed/comment-page-1/#comment-16463

>Possession of child porn will be punished with a minimum 1 year prison sentence.
>The definition of child porn will include any cartoon or virtual image of a person appearing to be under 18 and which is in a sexual context
>Possession of child porn will include the mere viewing of it. (In other words, if one picture of a sexy manga girl in a bikini passes through your browser – internet cache – recycle bin, the courts will have no choice but to impose a minimum 1 year prison term if you are arrested and charged. Likewise, if you are surfing an American porn tube site, and a thumbnail of a ‘barely legal 18 year old’ college girl video passes through your browser, you will face 1 year in prison without even having to have clicked on the thumbnail and watched the video).
>There will be minimum prison sentences for both online and offline grooming (communicating with a ‘child’ with the alleged aim of having sex with her later).

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

we didnt pay the denbs and got kicked out of EU

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8065643
Good night sweet Greece.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>8065640
Hurray for living in America. USA #1.

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

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>>8065647

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

>>8065651
>>8065653

[Anonymous No.]

an underage cartoon vagina is penetrated every 0.1 seconds. please think of the cartoon children

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

>>8065658

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, Europe, and I thought our E-PARASITE was bad.

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

>>8065666
nice trips
if i get doubles we all get laid next year

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

>>8065669

[/jp/ Doubles Control !9GET9K.lsU No.]

>>8065666

[Anonymous No.]

How do we contact the EU government on certain people viewing CP?(Legit CP)

[Anonymous No.]

the face of anti-loli

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

>>8065672
>>8065671
oh well maybe next time :D

[Anonymous No.]

eh, what if your'e underage yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065673
The police ?

[Anonymous No.]

>2011
>not moving to Russia

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

>>8065672
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[Anonymous No.]

>>8065673
Call 112

[Anonymous No.]

So wait, even though in Spain it's legal to fuck a 13 year old if you happen to see a picture of it you'll go to prison? Or if you happen to ask her by email beforehand you still go to jail?

How ... utterly stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065640
Well... Do they count guro without any sexual stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065679
>>8065685
But I'm in America though, is there any other way I could contact them anonymously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065686
Well if you go ahead and do it they can't do shit, but with images they can arrest you for an attempt to do it?

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

>>8065681
>>8065684

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

>>8065694

[Anonymous No.]

This won't actually change anything though. It's also illegal to blow balloons if you're under 8 years old and yet no one cares.

[Anonymous No.]

We all know who is responsible for this.

[dntf**kwitmeormyfriends-chan !avY8p6wIiQ No.]

>>8065696

[Anonymous No.]

This is fucking retarded, they are going into your fucking personal space and are also using thought crimes, thank god I live in USA

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't change much for England though.

Drawn depictions of child porn was banned here a long time ago. Fuck all has happened though.

Now Greece, they're the real thing that will fuck over Europe. They plan referendum-ing our bailout package for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this apply to Poland?
Is shota considered illegal now?

[⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig No.]

>>8065700

[Anonymous No.]

What about fucking.shota and traps? Femanazis are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065686
Not just a picture of them having sex, but a picture of them in a bikini would do it, according to the site. Or even a picture of them in a short skirt and a tight top. They'd probably even get you for any picture of a 13 year old not wearing a burka.

Has anyone got links to any other sites talking about this leglislation, or whatever official EU site this is from? If this really is true, then it's time to use Tor and disc encryption for everything. Details on the implementation schedule would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

ENJOY YOUR POLICE STATE..
wait
>EU

ENJOY YOUR POLICE CONTINENT

basically you let the nazis win in the end anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065700
New friend circle member or just changed your trip?

[Anonymous No.]

Why do you keep posting this nonsense? And why do you tools keep believing that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coroners_and_Justice_Act_2009

2009, it feels like only yesterday when that passed. Plenty of "Illegal in England" pictures were posted for a while.

Also remember that some law got passed in Tokyo banning the same thing? Fuck all has happened there as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop acting like americans. It's just a directive, and nobody knows its exact contents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065643
ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ ΑΡΝΙΕΜΑΙ

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065708
Get a load of that guy, a slav and a faggot pedophile on top of that.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, they are actually searching your internet for this? Oh wow, have fun living like in China now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065724

Don't those things go hand in hand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065728
Have fun living in america, believing every lie the jews feed you and knowing nothing about how the rest of the world works.

[Anonymous No.]

As much as I dislike feminism, I don't think I'd trust anything posted on a website called "theantifeminist.com"

[Anonymous No.]

I am so fucking ashamed of living in EU now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065732
Yeah have fun being controled and wacthed your whole life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065719
Hmm, all that happened in Tokyo was manga and anime with fanservice and shit needs to be rated 18+ for some ungodly reason and VNs can't have loli, incest, or rape or they lose approval by some VN coalition which has no legal jurisdiction whatsoever so it can safely be ignored.

So it didn't stop games like Machigurumi no Wana or White ~Blanche comme le Lune from being made so you're right about that but there was no legal reason they couldn't make them anyway.

Still, haven't seen blatant mother/son brother/sister incest from Swan anymore which is bullshit but what can you do?

[Anonymous No.]

Not a single fuck, etc.
Seriously guys, who the fuck cares? It's just another pointless law.

[Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 No.]

This will just get selectively enforced or used to extend sentences on actual CP possessors.
Still is terrible law.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065741
Come and live in the us, land of the free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065688
Probably not.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you have a source for these claims aside from this questionable blog? I'm concerned, but I cant find these details anywhere besides this blog.

[Anonymous No.]

>The definition of child porn will include any cartoon or virtual image of a person appearing to be under 18 and which is in a sexual context

I GUESS OUR TELEVISON STATIONS HERE IN CZECH ARE FUCKED WITH HALF THEIR REPERTOIR LOLOLOLOLO

This is the same shit as our "bigger than small amount of weed". It won't actually fuck anyone over, because nobody will know what to make of it.

It would be fun if we got kicked out of EU for this or something else, and suddenly, we become an economically booming country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065743
So is mother/son,etc aloud in hentai still or not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065758

I think we have arrived at the step where the EU needs to be declared a failed experiment. It was a nice try, but it just doesn't fucking work anymore, if it ever really did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065704
Word. They've passed what is essentially this law in England already, hasn't made a difference.

[Anonymous No.]

The site is fake. Shut up and go home, retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065763
Pretty much. The Eurooptimism, it's in the drain.

The only thing that happened is that the corruption accelerated because more money is in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't live in EU but here's what is going to happen. Nothing, absolutely nothing. Until you do actually fuck up something, they aren't going to actively search for shit. Don't go around parading the fact that you have a 3tb hard drive full of loli and nothing will happen. Though if you get caught doing an actual crime they'll throw that one year on too, so don't commit crimes.

[Anonymous No.]

GoGOGOGOGOGOG Greece.
Break the EU apart.
Our I will need to emigrate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU&ob=av3e

[Anonymous No.]

commencing loli dump

[Anonymous No.]

>implying we haven't been fucked since Britain opened the market in exchange for America's help

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry Saten, it's not your fault but we can't be together anymore.

;__;

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

That feel when the only Mimi-based doujin you can find is that one with her having a dick and you have only ever found one Kuro based doujin.

[Anonymous No.]

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>8065835
You're not looking. At all.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065835
Many faps were had

[Anonymous No.]

I'd rather go to prison than stop watching Shota. It's the only thing that I like sexually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065846
>lolis with dicks
My favourite sort of loli.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

This looks like bullshit, show some actual proof. OP link doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not living in the EU but goddamn.

[Anonymous No.]

mfw when I've seen OP's dick

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065874
..Was it big? did it look tasty?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065860
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?type=TA&reference=P7-TA-2011-0468&format=XML&a
mp;language=EN

Remove "amp;"

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065879
why don't you see for yourself? ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065860
Link works for me but I'm not sure if "theantifeminist.com" is the most unbiased, reliable site (same would go for thefeminist.com).

[Anonymous No.]

Post the rest of the doujin already. I'm waiting.

[Anonymous No.]

The US government chart below proves the majority of physical, emotional and sexual abusers of children are biological mothers. I’m not holding my breath in anticipation of the proactive laws which will be passed in order to target the perpetrators (single mothers) and to protect these vulnerable children as opposed to their busty 16 year old counterparts.

chart: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/pubs/cm08/images/fig3-6.jpg

A 21 year old man is gaming an attractive 16 year old at the mall, you say? Arrest the sicko, it’s “for the children”! Meanwhile, behind closed doors, single mothers everywhere are…

It’s a sick world we live in, and it’s only going to get sicker, because the majority of men cannot and do not have the capacity to unite under a common banner and demand their rights like women do. Even as feminists run ramshod over our civil liberties, men are too busy throwing each under the bus to seek the approval of bitter, aging, and loose pussy that’s been passed around the block.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065891
I bet most /jp/er's dream of being molested by their mother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065883

"Furthermore, the concept of child pornography also covers realistic images of a child, where a child is engaged or depicted as being engaged in sexually explicit conduct for primarily sexual purposes."

Manga art is far from realistic, so doesn't that make it okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065897

What's "realistic" is completely subjective and could for a prosecutor needing a case mean simply being drawn well.

And no matter what, acting like drawn kids should have the same rights as real kids is not okay. It's utterly brain damaged, especially since it's only regards to sex and not all crime (funny how none of these lawfags actually care about violence, just sex).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065897
I don't think the jury will agree on that after they see your collection of hardcore bestiality lolicon ass-to-mouth penetration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065901
>funny how none of these lawfags actually care about violence, just sex

That's because the purpose of these kinds of laws has nothing to do with protecting children and everything to do with protecting the adults from seeing something that offends their sensibilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065897
I should think so. Anyway, as I understand it, only retards get caught for this shit, by seeking interaction with an actual child, paying for CP with their credit card, or posting CP on /b/, or whatnot. Eurofags shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as they don't try, say, to host a loli imageboard if such a thing is illegal in their country (as it is in the UK, in France, etc).

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065910
>I should think so. Anyway, as I understand it, only retards get caught for this shit, by seeking interaction with an actual child, paying for CP with their credit card, or posting CP on /b/, or whatnot.

The same people behind this directive call for monitoring of all internet activity.

[Anonymous No.]

reminds me of that thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065913
Some do, but not all. The EU is actually pretty good privacy-wise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065759
Well, yes and no. There's some coalition of VN sellers sort of like the comics code authority from the 1960s that tries to tell VN companies what they can put in their games. Problem is they control what gets put on the shelves in stores or so I hear. But they're not the law.

So there's no reason a company can't make loli eroge like Sakuranbo Shougakkou which reminds you often that the girl you're fucking is 10

And there's no reason a company can't have mother/son incest like Inraku no Ketsuzoku ~Kindan no Jubaku~ where not only do you fuck your mother, your aunt, and your two sisters you can get them pregnant too. There's even an ending where you MARRY YOUR BLOOD RELATED MOTHER.

That silly coalition of VN makers just won't give you some approval sticker or something but that's the worst of it.

For some reason though ever since that shit rule was agreed on Swan decided to ditch their incest games. Fucking Swan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065926
have you heard about ACTA?

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone even get arrested for lolicon alone in the UK?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065937

No, the UK might look like a retarded shithole to most outsiders, but they would NEVER convict people for possessing lolicon/shotacon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065933
Yes.
>May or may not have been negotiated by the EU — we don't actually know who negotiated it
>Issues raised by the opposition seem somewhat unclear and overhyped, and not to follow from the text of ACTA itself

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065937
It's almost as if they just passed the law to keep mouths quiet, but they won't bother actually trying to catch people.

You hear about pedophile rings every so often, but they're molesting real kids, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

why there's only one fucking link to this law, show something else than the link from theantifeminist.com

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065969
See:
>>8065883

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065969
This.
I know /jp/ is intelligent enough to know that you should always demand proper sources and citations (And read them, obviously) before getting upset.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065975
>school drop out NEETs
>intelligent
Oh come one.

[Anonymous No.]

Time for revolution !

[「ロリアキ」 No.]

>>8065979
Oh come on yourself. I don't ever think I've ever met a dropout who bailed because school subjects were too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope all you degenerate otaku fucks rot in prison.

This is great news!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066005
Jokes on you, you are going with us because you were in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>For the purposes of this Directive, the following definitions apply: ...
>(c) ‘child pornography’ means:
>(i) any material that visually depicts a child engaged in real or simulated sexually explicit conduct;
>(ii) any depiction of the sexual organs of a child for primarily sexual purposes;
>(iii) any material that visually depicts any person appearing to be a child engaged in real or simulated sexually explicit conduct or any depiction of the sexual organs of any person appearing to be a child, for primarily sexual purposes; or
>(iv) realistic images of a child engaged in sexually explicit conduct or realistic images of the sexual organs of a child, for primarily sexual purposes;

[Anonymous No.]

These are blasphemy laws, with children as the deity.
You can't reason with people who support them--they're the same as Muslims outraged at drawings of Mohamed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066026
But these active anti-pedophiles or whatever you want to call them don't all sit in one country with tulbans and stone people to death for getting raped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066058
Neither do Muslims. Haven't you heard about the newspaper office being petrol bombed today in France?
>>8065952
>>8065967
I haven't heard any stories of people being arrested for it, but bear in mind that Britain has laws allowing people to be tried in secret without juries for "national security" reasons now.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you idiots seriously not know the difference between a directive and a law

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065758
>It would be fun if we got kicked out of EU for this or something else, and suddenly, we become an economically booming country.
Like the netherlands, only with loli instead of weed.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, faggots. You do realize that the EU cannot dictate such laws?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066070
>France
What one country did you think he was talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

Does that mean I can't fap to my lolis anymore, as long as I live in Germany?

The fuck is this blasphemy. I hope I can move out and look for shelter elsewhere. Instead of caring about financial crisises, they keep on taking anon their rights - this sucks so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066202
Of course you can. You just can't show it to others anymore. You know, like you used to call the neighbors to look at you while you're masturbating to loli, just to offend them? Now you just have to fap in silence like the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po09lcDxXIA

Lets do this

I'm game

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066206
I don't think that would change anything, if they'd really search for your secret loli collection they would find it.
Just recently there has been a scandal about a trojan made and spread by the state.
They are probally watching me write this very sentence

[Anonymous No.]

That means that they would have to improsion, dunno...10 million people ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066223
>>8066223
fuck, i meant imprison*

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066223
Read it carefully. As always, there is no obligation for a EU state to implement it completely, most of the points being optional.

[Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU No.]

Jesus. My heart goes out to you, Eurobros, but nothing can stop the global initiative for the defense of imaginary jailbait.

It's way easier to defend them than, ya know, actual children in sweat shops or the seedy underground sex industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066216
Hey i like this kind of music, i want more !

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>>8066230
I think in most countries it won't become illegal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066230
Even if there is no obligation, laws against cp are basically free appreciation for governements so I can't see many countries not adopting this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066256
They aren't braindead.

[Anonymous No.]

If eurofags were truly concerned about their morality, their would target the ever growing slave/sexual tourism industry.

But noooooo. We must worry about drawings and not actual persons. Idiots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066264
But drawings are only a small part of it.

[Anonymous No.]

I know some sickfuck who actually owns CP, how the fuck do I report them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066297
Your dad fucked you in the ass and took pictures again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066297
Who are you to judge them, Anon-san?

[Anonymous No.]

What about people like me who carpet bomb download doujins and simply delete the blatantly loli ones (not even puberty age) when they come across them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065640
>unenforceable
>not in spirit of preserving peace, just another appease the masses bill
>last sentence only applies to real pedos

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066297
You tell that sick bastard to send all his pictures to this e-mail; [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066307
Why would you delete the best ones?

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to see them stop me from getting my lolicon! >:(

[Anonymous No.]

legalize it

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to make an announcement.

KILLING PEOPLE IS WORSE THAN RAPING A KID.
Period.

Ban games like GTA. Ban movies with gratuitous violence. Oh, so you say they don't make us want to pick up a gun and go kill actual people ? So why are you saying these Chinese cartoons will make me go rape 3DPD children ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065640
So what, it's like that here in Canada too but you know what? No one gives a fuck, not even the police. Even though the law doesn't dictate that it has to be a real kid and shit the law really only cares once the person either does have real CP or if they have loli and show it off (ie have it as your background on a laptop that you are using everywhere).

[Anonymous No.]

So... am I the only one who's totally disgusted and getting suicidal? Seriously. What comes next? Going to jail for posting gore images? For insulting someone over internet? For not being a COMPLETE FUCKING CATTLE?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066297
Judge not lest ye be judged yourself.

It's pretty high and mighty to be wanting to report people for thought crime when you visit /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066320
I just don't find them attractive. They look like little transvestite boys at that age, and I'm not a faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

I can already imagine normal people like you and me being depicted as sick child molesters by society because they had some drawn loli on their PC. Seriously, going to prison for possessing (or only viewing) drawn underage porn images is a bad joke.
I just hope that they won't go this far. Prisons are bursting nowadays because they're so full; they don't have space for these kind of people who didn't even commit a crime.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get it. I can't find the articles on the directive that says what OP is quoting.

It only pretty much says that child molesters should have a EU-wide minimum sentence, ability to block out child porn related websites, criminalizes online predators, and bans these criminals from work involving children.

It says nothing about possession, distribution nor drawn loli.

[Anonymous No.]

Seven proxies etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066326
Don't worry bro, it's just a troll. No such directive exists.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you allowed to browse the internet in jail (watch anime)? Then I wouldn't mind. I heard they even give you vegan food if you want to (Germany).

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>>8065756
http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/2011/october/meps-back-eu-wide-rules-on-child-abuse-/72476.aspx you fucking moron

[Anonymous No.]

Come on Denmark, we're the only country in Scandinavia where child porn is legal when animated, don't let EU take it away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066346
>Bro
I've seen people use this word a lot recently. I don't like it.

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>>8066349
Okay fuck Sweden I'm going to Denmark

[Anonymous No.]

Its not like this matters, people will just use freenet or TOR to download their CP instead. Which is what real pedos do anyway, so it increases lolicons chances of coming across CP and discovering their true power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066326
>What comes next? Going to jail for insulting someone over internet?
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/10/new-york-democrats-argue-free-speech-is-a-privilege-that-can-be-revok
ed/
>“abusive” speech that they feel should be banned includes:
>1. Leaving hurtful messages online:
>“LEAVING IMPROPER MESSAGES ON ONLINE MESSAGE BOARDS OR SENDING HURTFUL AND DAMAGING MESSAGES TO OTHERS;”
>2. Flaming people online:
“”FLAMING” (HURTFUL, CRUEL, AND OFTENTIMES INTIMIDATING MESSAGES INTENDED TO INFLAME, INSIGHT, OR ENRAGE);”
>3. “Happy slapping” (a 2005 meme that the befuddled Senators appear to mistake for a current problem):
>“”HAPPY SLAPPING” (RECORDING PHYSICAL ASSAULTS ON MOBILE PHONES OR DIGITAL CAMERAS, THEN DISTRIBUTING THEM TO OTHERS);”
>4. Trolling online:
>“”TROLLING” (DELIBERATELY AND DECEITFULLY POSTING INFORMATION TO ENTICE GENUINELY HELPFUL PEOPLE TO RESPOND (OFTEN EMOTIONALLY), OFTEN DONE TO PROVOKE OTHERS);”
>5. Exclusion of people:
>“EXCLUSION (INTENTIONALLY AND CRUELLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM AN ONLINE GROUP).”

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, what if I disable caching and only view shit online? Could that get me sent to jail or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066349
Wasn't it completely legal there not long ago? Was that Denmark?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066348
But there is nothing written about drawings.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jItz-uNjoZA

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066362
>“EXCLUSION (INTENTIONALLY AND CRUELLY EXCLUDING SOMEONE FROM AN ONLINE GROUP).”
I will report 2ch to the US government.

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>>8066335
>I can already imagine normal people like you and me being depicted as sick child molesters by society because they had some drawn loli on their PC.
>normal people
Normal people? On /jp/? Surely you jest?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066367
I think that's bestiality you think about, and as far as I know it's still quite legal here as disturbing as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066376
"Get out of /jp/" images will be outlawed. Possession of them will be punishable.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0K1v_74lhE&feature=related

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066387
Man, I'm always equally confused by this clip.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066383
It's perfectly legal to produce it in Germany as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066392
>thirdteen in september!

mmm...

[Anonymous No.]

So I have been able to find nothing about drawn lolis regarding this directive. I'll just disregard it.

But I assume that there are places that have already banned drawn lolis.

What you guys do not realize is that such laws are basically about THOUGHTCRIME and setting a precedent for such laws in the future. No actual crime has been committed. And you'll start to wonder how George Orwell was right after all. Some of them are even proposing installing a blackbox and monitor your internet activities for CP. Yes, even those who have nothing to do with CP. Do you NOT SEE that while you're perhaps laughing at these jerks, you are losing your own liberty for REAL ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066401
>Do you NOT SEE that while you're perhaps laughing at these jerks, you are losing your own liberty for REAL ?
I'm too busy posting on /jp/ to do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066401

It can't be helped.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank god I was able to figure out the trollness, I was just about to have a panic attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066380
Oh, right. I might have used the wrong term.
What I meant was people that don't have anything to do with child porn or anything that hurts children.
I think /jp/ sure matches these criteria.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066401
I've been telling people that this was going to happen for years, that the internet will become sterile and barren by 2012, since about 06/07. Yet nobody listened, they just laughed. And now it's all coming true, and there's nothing that can be done any more. The proles aren't capable of understanding what is happening, so long as they have their facebook they're happy.

[Anonymous No.]

10 years in the future after lolicon is outlawed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066417
Yeah, and you sure are doing loads to stop the "Internet Armageddon".

[Anonymous No.]

The main problem I have with this is the fact that they are trying to ban an artistic expression (that is drawn or CG lolicon or whatever) because most people dislike it. How the fuck has it come to this? This whole pedo obsession the entirety of society has gone way too far, the truth is sexual offenders and ESPECIALLY those who commit crimes against children are a ridiculously tiny fraction of the population. And most of the tiny fraction are actually "normal" working people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066417
I've always known that one day we'd look back on the beginning of the internet like it was the wild west or some shit, before business and government "civilized' it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066362
Looks like some people got a little butthurt after being trolled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066418
What a sad, bleak future we face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066387
What movie is this from and when was it made?

[Anonymous No.]

Jokes on you OP it's already illegal in Sweden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066437
What the fuck is Mio doing there? Goddamnit Miura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066348
but it mentions no lolicon...

[nght_of !kNGhTSucXc No.]

>>8066448
I thought you could do a 15 years old in Sweden, when did they change it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066465
You still can. Lolicon and such is banned though as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't find the legislation on http://eur-lex.europa.eu/..
Any second independent source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066465
>>8066471
That isn't even logical within a distorted world view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066465
It's some old law from the 80's, haven't heard any case where it's been enforced tho. It's still legal to plow 15+ year olds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066465
You can. You just can't look at pictures of her. Or drawings. Also if her mother doesn't like you then you risk being prosecuted for rape by one of our friendly feminist prosecutors anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

EU will probably break apart soon anyway, as will the money system.
I think lolicon will be the least of our problems in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066491
Yeah everything's going to come apart in the next 10-20 years. I advise to stock up on loli and get a sturdy laptop and a hand generator so you can keep on fapping even after society collapses.

[Anonymous No.]

We already did this thread over on /a/, conclusion was it was fake /new/s anyway, and that you shouldn't care what nonsense laws they pass or decree overseas, because you don't have to live there with them. Thank fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066503
>Society collapses
AND THEN /jp/'S TIME ARRIVES!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066559
Is everyone on /a/ American or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066570
That would explain a lot

[Anonymous No.]

Wrong. As society collapses, decadence becomes prevalent. Once people grow fed up with decadence (yes, it actually happens), religion, in whatever flavor you like comes in and saves the fucking day. Again.

Prepare for Christianity MkII.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066559
>We already did this thread over on /a/

Now stay there. Otaku Culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066570
No, there were a few snooty little euros in that thread (or else people from india pretending to be euros or something, I guess they do that.)

Anyway, if you're european and this story seemed likely to you, your shit is your own damn fault so hey. Congrats, guys, you still suck. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand why society would collapse now, and not during the many earlier chances for it to happen.

It's sort of arrogant to think our problems are more severe, and more valid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066604
I just remembered the age of consent in Spain is 13, that makes me wonder why it is not a pedo paradise

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066585

>saves the fucking day

I'd rather see it go away completely, but sadly people still like imaginary feel-good crutches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066604
Why are /a/ posters so terrible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066624
It binds people though.
Without religion we wouldn't exist.
Not like I care anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066640
>Without war we wouldn't exist
FTFY

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066624
>>8066640
People become disgusted by debauchery and whatever else they don't like. Religion is, more than law, a reason to behave. Call it whatever you like, but without it a good bunch of people would not share your pity, remorse or even some basic honor.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah, now I don't feel as bad living in Australia. The European continent is more of a police state now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066640
>>8066647
I sort of see Astronomy as root of reason and civilization, myself.

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>>8066491
Can't wait for that to happen. The few benefits the EU has for my country (Germany) are way too insignificant compared to the billions of Euro we have to pay to countries like Greece (who, as thanks, dish out them Nazi insults in return).
Also, our own, elected politicians are already fucked up enough, ignoring the constitution left and right, so that we don't need some EU shitheads (looking at you, Cecilia Malmström) who haven't even been elected by the people deciding on some pointless laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066657
Did you mean spiritualism? Because that gave rise to religion, which game rise to philosophy, which game rise to laws, which gave rise to science.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066647
War is pure competition
So it should be without capitalism we wouldn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8065643
>Greece
kontrackt?

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>>8066649

That's what scares me more than anything else about hardcore religious people... If they're only behaving themselves out of fear of being judged, they're truly scary people, especially when you consider that the book they so fervently believe is written by ignorant, fallible men...not Gods.
For most people who haven't had their brains polluted by religion, altruistic behavior comes naturally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066672
To some extent I suppose so. They're all interconnected, aren't they? I just suspect that Man's early attempts at understanding the heavens (No matter how sucky their attempts were) formed all sorts of human phenomena that made order, logic, and all that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066652
>continent
More like a small inordinately self-important region, just sayin'

>>8066672
>derp

[Anonymous No.]

so glad I don't have to live there

europe is a miasma of skullfucking

[Anonymous No.]

chinese cartoons characters have rights too

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to read the original text, google for this: "P7_TC1-COD(2010)0064"

It's a mess, but at least Germany should be fine. The directive reads like they had made sure that it complies with existing German law. I refer you to article 5, (7) and (8) for why.
Still, this is a typical example of oppressive legislation, that only can go through, since "no one can advocate child pornography". Well no shit, but your definition of the term to extend to purely fictional characters is pants on head retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066668
Hi kraut, greek pig here, you're a fucking idiot. The Nazi insults are not directed towards the Germans, they're directed towards our own government.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066698
Shut up and go join the general strike.

[Anonymous No.]

And meanwhile here in Neaples we have just now discovered some rom kids were being prostituted for about 5 euro in a cinema, near the fucking central station and must've gone on for years.
I fail to see how this witch hunt for lolicons and closet pedos protect any children.
Let's torch also rape and bondage fans as well, they might be real rapists !

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066686
>altruistic behavior comes naturally.
No it doesn't.
The only people a person really cares about are people close to him, friends and family.
Altruism isn't something that happens maturely, it's seen almost nowhere in nature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066719
The German law is rather in a grey-zone. It's not clear at all what's legal and what not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066728
moot & time magazine overestimate their own influence.

95% if the people on 4chan might be /b/tards, that doesn't mean that 95% of everybody is a member of their local v-mask-wearing leejun chapter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066771
In regard to fictional porn:
-13: illegal
14-: legal (to own)

If you have a friend in Japan, and he (with no compensation) sends you porn featuring fictional characters of age 14-18, that's completely legal.
-13 is illegal, but apparently the Zoll (customs) doesn't give a fuck about loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066778
>durp de derp hurpity durr

I'd say I can't begin to describe what is wrong with your post, but I digress; if you want to assume everything that's happening right now is part of a LULZ GUY FAWKES IS LEEJUN XD movement, you're pretty sad and you have my pity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066740
>rom kids
Who cares about them anyway ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066744
>Altruism isn't something that happens maturely, it's seen almost nowhere in nature.

But that's wrong.

The statement is factually false, I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066785
Below 14 is sort of legal too. Because it's not "close to reality". But it's still illegal to provide or purchase such material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066789
yikes, man, I had like one typo thar

go take a pill

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066686
Sorry. No. Feral children, if you have ever witnessed such a horrid thing, do not show altruistic behavior.

Altruism, despite what transhumanists might say, is not natural. It is a doctrine. You teach it to your children, lest they become selfish little monsters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066802
Calm down, guy, I wasn't talking about any typos. Typos are the least of your worries.

[Anonymous No.]

GEE, IS THIS THE CREEPY THREAD??

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066740
Moralfags only care about what they can see literally, not what is actually going on.

[Anonymous No.]

dude you suck at trolling, just sayin'

[Anonymous No.]

There are no cars...in Imboca...

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066740
>>8066826
It's not some either/or scenario. They can both root out underage prostitution and stop "Internet pedophiles" at the same time, and that's exactly what they're trying to do. (Even though I don't like getting caught up in it for having 2D loli on HDD.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066849
I doubt arresting a bunch of virgins who like 2D loli and old men who enjoy talking to children is gonna solve any real problem.
Other than feeding the public the stereotypical shit they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066849
They can't both root out underage prostitution and stop "Internet pedophiles" at the same time

fixed

Thats the thing about people, they generally dont stop just because someone made a law about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066892
They want to prevent an outbreak of pedophilia.

Which I cant blame them. DFC is highly superior and the only excuse for liking old hags is ignorance.

[Anonymous No.]

>a thumbnail of a ‘barely legal 18 year old’ college girl video passes through your browser,
I don't know about over there, but in the U.S. there's a little concept called "mens rea."

"In criminal law, it is viewed as one of the necessary elements of a crime."

And, here's the thing, I thought a few of the euroshits specifically were the ones who first invented this idea. Maybe I'm wrong, but this thread smells like bull to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066899
>euroshits
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

BANNED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066918
/jp/ - Insatiable Jerks

Anyway, laws are supposed to make sense, not just be arbitrary impositions you can accidentally run afoul of. Putting aside putdowns I could make about the "old country," I'm under the impression that's pretty much true everywhere there even are laws, with a few exceptions like Saudi Arabia or North Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

Great, maybe the unlawfulness will scare a normalfag or two away from the chans. I suppose some people want to roleplay as some kind of a lawful good character IRL, but personally I'll ignore all laws that forbid a victimless act.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066955
>Anyway, laws are supposed to make sense, not just be arbitrary impositions you can accidentally run afoul of.

Hark.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066955
That was fine 50 years ago but not anymore. They hardly ever remove old laws, so we just keep making new laws and stacking them on top. They dont stop making laws, so there is no way to only make laws that only apply to criminals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066962
Today's lucky item: a big bag of dicks

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066955
Yeah, think of crime as a mine field, 50 years ago it was nice and neat, it was fenced off and signs were posted.

Now, theres no room anymore, the fields are busting at the seams, the fence is crumbling and everyone who supported it is in the same danger. Kinda ironic really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066963
>6
Has that been scanned?

[Anonymous No.]

>>8066990
>50 years ago it was nice and neat
No, law has always been a clusterfuck. Dumb laws just weren't enforced back then, and neither are they now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>8067018
Granted theres always been dumb laws but they were never at near the quantity as they are now.

Even with a nice and neat mine field, there was always the chance of hitting a stray mine if you got to close. Now is more like the line is begining to be so blurred you cant even walk in your lawn with out risk.