Plot armor aside, how strong is Reimu really?

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Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:28:39 2011 No.8059008 [Reply] [Original]

Plot armor aside, how strong is Reimu really?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:29:11 2011 No.8059013 Strong enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:30:10 2011 No.8059018 >>8059008 Mary Sue

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:31:40 2011 No.8059020 File: 207 KB, 1165x827, reimu4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Considering she can float away and take no damage forever, pretty powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:33:10 2011 No.8059029 File: 54 KB, 500x755, 1307861031256.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059018 Reimu is hardly a Mary Sue. She's lazy, short tempered, and impious. Not exactly outstanding qualities for a Miko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:34:09 2011 No.8059035 >>8059029 how is she impious

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:35:08 2011 No.8059037 >>8059020 But she can't do damage on the level of the other high end Touhous. It's like having Avalon: you can never die as long as you hide behind it, but you aren't winning the fight either.

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:35:39 2011 No.8059036 File: 132 KB, 533x703, reimu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059035 Obviously, she's secretly an imp.

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:37:09 2011 No.8059043 File: 120 KB, 512x384, reimu3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059037 While she can't do high damage, she can still do damage. Being able to do damage plus invulnerability for an unlimited time is still winning any fight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:37:38 2011 No.8059041 >>8059020 DAT NIP SLIP

>>	nght_of !kNGhTSucXc Mon Oct 31 17:38:09 2011 No.8059045 File: 340 KB, 1165x1058, Oh man she lost it!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] She never goes all out, who know's but she has some good battling experience and something more, pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:39:09 2011 No.8059048 >>8059035 Well she doesn't treat deities such like Yama or Kanako with much respect does she. And how much of her time is spent in prayer and meditation?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:41:09 2011 No.8059057 >>8059048 Yama isn't a deity. Reimu is not obligated to Kanako because Yukari is the Hakurei god. She spends time in prayer when she needs to: SSiB

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:41:40 2011 No.8059054 File: 386 KB, 813x861, 1300771423134.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059043 >unlimited time Full baka.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:42:10 2011 No.8059061 File: 85 KB, 600x800, koishi reading stupid thread.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059036 Why would tripcode user use this image of dying Reimu?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:43:09 2011 No.8059065 File: 100 KB, 280x485, 1253819492172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059020 too lewd

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:44:10 2011 No.8059071 >>8059057 >Yukari is the Hakurei god. I seriously wish you were like, submerged in a vat of acid or something. Fuck. Jesus christ. God damn. Holy shit.

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:44:41 2011 No.8059066 >>8059061 I interpret it as Reimu deciding to listen to the ground.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:44:41 2011 No.8059067
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She throws paper amulets with enough force to shatter huge boulders and pierce tank armor. She's likely the strongest human that ever lived, and that's without even taking her magic powers into account.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:46:42 2011 No.8059075 File: 176 KB, 320x400, 1233363522899.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059057 >Yama isn't a deity. Yes she is. A Yama is a god, both to Buddhists and Hindus.

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:47:09 2011 No.8059084 File: 1.56 MB, 1500x2000, shiki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059065 Those in glass houses

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:47:40 2011 No.8059082

>>8059071

The purpose of the Hakurei Shrine is to uphold the Hakurei border.

Yukari is the border god, and cares very much for the well-being of Gensokyo. She's also fond of Reimu.

Problem?

>>8059075

Nobody prays to Yama. Japanese Buddhists don't pray to deities other than ascended Buddhas.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:48:09 2011 No.8059088

>>8059057
Yukari isn't a god..... And Yama's are considered deities.... Hakurei doesn't have a god it's devoted to or it has never been shown at the least.

Plot armor aside, she's probably around the high end level in terms of feats. While she isn't as destructive as say Suika, her ability to float away from reality and MAINTAIN IT AS LONG AS SHE PLEASES, basically makes her hacks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:48:09 2011 No.8059089 File: 372 KB, 1019x1019, 9e5dde2317f4bcd30e39a54fa2541b0b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059057 I was thinking about bitching at the secure tripfag for posting nonsense, but damn sonny, you make poopslimer look good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:48:39 2011 No.8059085 >>8059067 Pretty sure those talismans only do the damage they do because they are magic; it's not like she can throw normal pieces of paper hard enough to crack skulls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:50:41 2011 No.8059090 >>8059088 To be fair, there are far fewer restrictions on what can be considered a shinto god than in most other religions; basically anything with a soul is eligible.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:50:41 2011 No.8059092
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>>8059082
>Japanese Buddhists don't pray to deities other than ascended Buddhas.

Careful buddy, Buddhism is so decentralized there's no way you can make a statement like that.

Also, take a look at Japanese Buddhist icons. You'll see a lot of Buddhists deities depicted other than Buddhas.

Oh, and Yukari is a fucking youkai, she isn't a god.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:51:41 2011 No.8059095 >>8059008 she is a teenage girl meaning if you are a man you can brutally rape her

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:51:44 2011 No.8059097 >>8059092 If the Enma is a deity, Yukari is also a god damned deity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:52:13 2011 No.8059103 File: 136 KB, 600x600, 1256827349071.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059090 right, it's an animistic faith and everything has a soul: rocks, trees, rivers so to Shintos there are basically an unlimited number of gods

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:52:42 2011 No.8059102 File: 137 KB, 620x678, reimu marisa3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059088 I've always wondered if Yukari could use some sort of prepared move to counter that move.

>>	Rozalin !!vPEaWM5chi6 Mon Oct 31 17:54:44 2011 No.8059109 >>8059097 That doesn't even begin to make sense. Even if you're using a power level is higher so she's also a god argument, which I hope you aren't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:56:40 2011 No.8059115 File: 168 KB, 600x600, 1256140925302.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059097 No. Youkai are demons, not deities.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:56:40 2011 No.8059116 File: 408 KB, 800x800, 0283e35a8bbba27fb54778d7bb5f645eef8c3208.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059097 NO! That's fucking stupid. You're fucking stupid. Youkai are not deities. Get it through your thick skull.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 17:58:10 2011 No.8059132 File: 657 KB, 1070x1514, funiculi_funicula_06.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059085

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:00:10 2011 No.8059141 >>8059109 >>8059115 >>8059116 Alice became a youkai because she increased her powerlevel. She attained immortality through ascension. Same applies to god ascension. I'm going to ask my professor for material to support this fact.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:02:11 2011 No.8059146 File: 91 KB, 700x760, 1259122090348.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] plot armor aside, how strong is Marisa?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:03:11 2011 No.8059153 >>8059141 That's fucking retarded. Please stop it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:03:41 2011 No.8059151

Reimu never had plot armour, Goddamn, you sound like TVTropes.

If anything, she beat up gods before the spellcard rules were made, IN also says she has a bunch of other abilities besides warping away from reality that she doesn't want to use because she dislikes showoffs (that includes Fantasy Heaven).

Basically you can't say a 100% certain verdict about her or most other Touhous due to the spe~llcard rules and lack of in-canon power comparison.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:05:40 2011 No.8059158 >>8059141 yeah too bad youkai aren't necessarily immortal

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:07:26 2011 No.8059170

>>8059141
Youkai are not deities, Yukari is the maintainer of the border along with Reimu because the former was the one who created the barrier with the first Hakurei miko. If Yukari were the deity then she'd be nothing but a non-physical entity capable of only transmiting its current mood, which we know she's not. There's also the fact that the ACTUAL Hakurei deity has been mentioned a bunch of times, like in Reimu C's good MoF ending, Reimu B's (or was it A?) UFO ending and CoLA.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:08:52 2011 No.8059175

>>8059151
Well it's not plot armor per say, but any victory she's had over a stronger opponent say Yukari or Shinki is usually cause they aren't actually fighting seriously.
>>8059102
And most like yes, Yukari could do something about Fantasy Heaven. Border between Reality and insert phrase here or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:12:14 2011 No.8059184 We need to create a powerlevel chart of all the Touhous. With Lunarians at the top, and Yuuka and Yukari coming in on second tier.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:14:11 2011 No.8059191 File: 328 KB, 769x1000, 1278130372124.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059184 Yama is at the top. Then Yukari, Eirin, Yuka, and the oni.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:14:11 2011 No.8059192 File: 26 KB, 345x460, s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Plot armor? Nope, you can die in the game on any of the touhou games I'm aware of. I mean, you'd have to be trying, but still.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:15:42 2011 No.8059194

>>8059175
>but any victory she's had over a stronger opponent say Yukari or Shinki is usually cause they aren't actually fighting seriously.

What? Where did you get that from? Her powers were explicitly said by ZUN in HRtP that they could damage gods themselves, which Shinki is and there's no reason for her to not fight seriously since she said she was going to kill Reimu and therefore implode Gensokyo and its inhabitants into nothingness. Anything post-MS cannot be considered as any display of real powers since the spellcard rules were implemented and they make everyone have a fair chance against everyone else so you can't say that Yukari was ''fighting seriously'' or not, because she couldn't have done either way, although she does tease often in spellcard battles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:16:40 2011 No.8059200 >>8059184 We cannot do that, nothing has been specified or compared by ZUN. All of those charts that have been made before are fanwank.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:18:40 2011 No.8059208 File: 204 KB, 500x580, 1271052548313.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059200 get the stick out of your ass anon, fanwank is fun

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:18:40 2011 No.8059210

>>8059191

Why is Eirin up there. IN is easy as fuck.

>>8059194

>Allow me to interject, but if you were to closely examine appendices A and B, you would know for FACT, that Yukari was not indeed acting in such a manner. This is canonically accepted, therefore your opinion is objectively wrong and you should refrain from projecting your false opinions and shoving it down our collective throats which does indeed infuriate Gensokyo scholars such as me.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:20:24 2011 No.8059215

>>8059192
>die

That's impossible, danmaku can't kill.

And ''plot armor'' is when the weakling character (usually the main) manages to beat an entity much more stronger than itself _without explanation for its powers or how he/she managed to beat _. In this case, Reimu is not a weakling and she DOES have an explanation, her orbs and ofuda (I'm guessing her needles too) have been said to have the power to fight on par with gods, which is kind of what a shrine maiden is supposed to be related to (that'd be communicating instead of fighting, although Reimu can trance too).

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:21:24 2011 No.8059220 >>8059210 Secondary detected.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:22:24 2011 No.8059224 >>8059220 Playing touhou and not reading supplementary sources is now secondary?

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:22:24 2011 No.8059225
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>>8059210
>Why is Eirin up there. IN is easy as fuck.

in game difficulty has no bearing on a character's power level

and Eirin is easily the most powerful magic user in touhou

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:22:24 2011 No.8059226 >>8059210 >Why is Eirin up there. He probably put her up there because he thinks being really old is power.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:23:24 2011 No.8059228 >>8059224 That's not supplementary, that's in-game info.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:24:24 2011 No.8059230 >>8059225 >in game difficulty has no bearing on a character's power level Okay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:25:24 2011 No.8059233 >>8059225 >and Eirin is easily the most powerful magic user in touhou Where did you get that from? She's not even a magician, she's just highly knowledgeable in the field of medicine and science.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:25:24 2011 No.8059236 >>8059225 >and Eirin is easily the most powerful magic user in touhou >>8059228 Yeah a source would be nice. Where does it say that Eirin is even good at danmaku.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:26:24 2011 No.8059238 >>8059230 Not the same guy but uh, you can't treat how hard a character is in-game as proof of power.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:28:24 2011 No.8059249
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>>8059233
>She's not even a magician

lunarians invented magic (or at least they claim so)

and if she isn't a magician, how did she put the entire planet inside of a magic pot

which wasn't even one of her strongest spells

no one ever gives poor Eirin any credit power level wise

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:30:24 2011 No.8059254 >>8059249 I'll just answer this with one word. Source?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:31:24 2011 No.8059258 >>8059249 If Eirin is so strong how come a human like Mokou is the extra >>8059254 Eirin using the rice cooker Dragon Ball seal is canon.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:34:24 2011 No.8059270

>>8059258
How is using an artifact a proof of one's superior magic skills?

How can you get her exact ''power level''? How can you compare it to others'?

You can't, ZUN never stated anything about them and the spellcard rules made everyone be able to beat everyone else, hopefully that would have stopped powerlevel discussions but it didn't because people are hungry for these useless facts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:35:24 2011 No.8059272 File: 9 KB, 459x377, 1259284036918.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] seriously people, enclosing the entire planet in a big space jar is one of Eirin's B spells

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:37:24 2011 No.8059280

>>8059272
That's a spellcard, not something that really happened you know, every Touhou's spellcard's danmaku is a reflection of one's abilities made into a beautiful nigh-harmless (because they scratch clothes) pattern. It's like thinking Utsuho's suns in-battle are real suns.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:39:24 2011 No.8059287

>>8059254
uh, IN for starters

>Ah, you're talking about the moon?
>That's my master Eirin's strongest charm.
>It makes the Earth one giant, sealed chamber.
>Do you understand?

>But about that moon-sealing charm.
>I DO have stronger ones.

the thing about lunarians inventing magic comes from one of ZUN's books, let me look it up

>>8059258
as I just said, in game difficulty has no bearing on power level

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:40:24 2011 No.8059293 File: 4 KB, 190x190, 1270075982629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059280 >That's a spellcard, not something that really happened haven't you played IN

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:41:24 2011 No.8059296 >>8059287 >the thing about lunarians inventing magic comes from one of ZUN's books, let me look it up What if Eirin is not even a Lunarian

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:44:24 2011 No.8059303
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>>8059296
she came from the moon (where lunarians live)

she's immortal, or at least extremely long lived (just like lunarians)

oh and the thing about lunarians inventing magic is something kaguya said, it's not in one of the books

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:46:24 2011 No.8059307 Who the fuck cares?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:46:24 2011 No.8059310 >>8059307 Are you gaijin by any chance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:49:24 2011 No.8059315 >>8059307 EIRIN DESERVES OUR LOVE

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Mon Oct 31 18:50:24 2011 No.8059317 >>8059303 Sort of. Eirin is a lunarian, but she does come from earth.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:51:24 2011 No.8059319

>>8059293
I'm saying that the spellcard itself does not do anything, not that they didn't seal Earth beforehand.

Either way, you still cannot say that she's the ''most powerful magician'' because there's nothing concrete to compare nor is it comparable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:52:24 2011 No.8059321 Eirin is a typical Japanese obasan. She even sings enka-style. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqNXDCHSg3A She may have a high powerlevel but she's just a mid-aged woman.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:53:24 2011 No.8059324 >>8059317 what? no she doesn't

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:54:24 2011 No.8059331 File: 65 KB, 446x600, PMiSS_eirin.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why won't you give her the respect she deserves /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:55:24 2011 No.8059337 >>8059331 Too busy staring at her ass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:56:24 2011 No.8059338 >>8059331 This is not respect issue, this is nonsensical powerlevel discussion. And by ''deserving'' that respect then so would every other Touhou, make that happen please.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Mon Oct 31 18:56:24 2011 No.8059342

>>8059151
>She beat up gods before the spellcard rules were made.

Then the spellcard rules were made not to protect the Shrine Maiden, but to give Youkai a chance to defeat her?.

Because you can danmaku-rape her in IN.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 18:59:24 2011 No.8059350

>>8059342
>Then the spellcard rules were made not to protect the Shrine Maiden, but to give Youkai a chance to defeat her?.

I'm not sure why you're adding the question mark.

>Because you can danmaku-rape her in IN.

Danmaku doesn't kill, spellcard rules were made so that any being could beat any other regardless of power (eg: Cirno can beat Yama), it's only a matter of skill and bullet dodging prowess that matters, which Reimu is good at.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:01:24 2011 No.8059358 >>8059331 Making super medicine doesn't really seem much when most touhous can split the planet in half by farting.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Mon Oct 31 19:06:24 2011 No.8059367 >>8059350 >I'm not sure why you're adding the question mark. Because I thought it was the other way around.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Mon Oct 31 19:07:24 2011 No.8059371

>>8059324

Actually, she and several others of the older, higher ranking lunarians do. The lunar capital - which Eirin is a founder of - has only existed for slightly over 2000 years, and Eirin, Tsukiyomi and others are older than that.

Supposedly like Tsukiyomi, Eirin is another character from Japanese prehistory that has mistakenly been remembered as a deity, Eirin being Omohikane.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:09:24 2011 No.8059379
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>>8059191
Any other ideas for lists of S ranked touhous?

Yukari and Yuka are pretty obvious, but what about the rest?

Suika is usually up there, which I guess means the other 3 devas of the mountain are too.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:15:24 2011 No.8059390

>>8059367
My bad, I forgot to mention both of them are correct, the youkai were scared to fight her both because a) She would beat them to a pulp and b) If she dies Gensokyo goes kerblooey.

>>8059379
>Yuka

I don't see why, she's only ''really powerful'' by Akyuu's mention, not that I think she's lying or anything by the way but there's no comparison made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:19:24 2011 No.8059400 >>8059390 Yuka has the "ultimate magic"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:22:24 2011 No.8059409 Isn't Reimu a pop-eye? As strong as the plot needs her to be. A snail will nearly outrun her, but she can take on a train.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:22:24 2011 No.8059411 >>8059400 Tits?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:23:24 2011 No.8059414 >>8059409 >As strong as the plot needs her to be. Reimu does not have plot armor, get it in your head.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:24:24 2011 No.8059415 >>8059414 Strong as the plot needs her to be, and plot armor is not the same thing. Plot armor means somebody is inexplicably strong.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:25:24 2011 No.8059417

>>8059400
I'm guessing you got carried away by people around here, or the internet.

She only gets the ''ultimate magic'' in Shuusou Gyoku, which not only is not part of Touhou canon, but her route isn't as well.

Plus, even if she did have it, you can't say she's therefore more powerful than everyone else, Utsuho has the ''Ultimate Energy'' according to the manual yet you don't see her being invincible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:26:24 2011 No.8059421 >>8059409 She's also a player character in a video game and they tend to beat everyone as a matter of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:26:24 2011 No.8059422 >>8059414 pop-eye had an explenation. Spinach.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:27:24 2011 No.8059423

>>8059415
>Strong as the plot needs her to be

Then it doesn't make any sense, every character in every magic battle story is as strong as the plot wants them to be, Reimu's just powerful. Or are you implying she's invincible or something? Because she's the second Touhou who has been beaten the most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:27:24 2011 No.8059425 >>8059390 Yuuka spends half of POFV floating about and beating people to a pulp for no reason and the other half bragging about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:28:24 2011 No.8059428 >>8059422 Reimu does have one, her family bloodline gives her powers over time and her ying yang orb has planet-destroying abilities.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:29:24 2011 No.8059431 >>8059423 Just like Pop-Eye. And he could blow out the sun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:30:24 2011 No.8059436 >>8059425 And? You seem to think that this proves something. Have you forgotten that everyone else in that game does the exact same thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:32:24 2011 No.8059439 >>8059431 Popeye is beyond any Touhou's reach, stop comparing them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:34:24 2011 No.8059445 >>8059439 Let them fight. He would beat all up. He would fucking lasso the sun to replicate the ying tang orbs Reimu has.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:35:24 2011 No.8059446 I find the fan works more interesting than the official works. Heh heh. I tried playing one of the games, I couldn't really get into it to be honest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:35:24 2011 No.8059447 File: 342 KB, 414x579, okuucrazy2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059445 >suns I know someone who could beat him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:36:24 2011 No.8059449 Reimu can eat sweets without getting fat. This is a god-tier power.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:36:24 2011 No.8059452

>>8059436
Nobody else is as incredibly smug about it as Yuuka. If you defeat her as Cirno, Cirno treats it as a near escape instead of a victory. When you fight Shikieiki at the end, Yuuka sees it as a way to prove who is the strongest in Gensokyo. She's also been an Extra boss. Her Akyuu profile says she's incredibly powerful but doesn't use it much.

Look, stop pretending everything in canon is lying. She's really powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:36:24 2011 No.8059455 >>8059445 What would happen if a new youkai representing the power of vegetables appears? All vegetables and their nutritional value being a part/tool of hers which includes spinach?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:37:51 2011 No.8059457 >>8059455 OTP

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:38:22 2011 No.8059459 File: 74 KB, 952x1024, spinach.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059447 Don't make him do it. It would be a galaxy destructing battle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:38:22 2011 No.8059460 >>8059452 I'm not saying it's all a lie, I'm saying that being a smug about her victories is no proof of her being superior to everybody, she's just a bully.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:39:52 2011 No.8059463 >>8059452 >She's also been an Extra boss Why do people keep using this as an actual in-universe argument? Christ you're stupid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:39:52 2011 No.8059464 >>8059455 She would need to be quick. And she probably doesn't know about his powers before it's too late.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:42:52 2011 No.8059476 File: 121 KB, 507x450, 1262211400992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey we're still talking about how Eirin is up there with Yukari and everyone in terms of power level right

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:42:52 2011 No.8059479 >>8059463 Ah, good point, you got me. I guess I just wasn't thinking. >>8059460 She's a bully who can back it up, is what I mean. She is so utterly unconcerned by the prospect of fighting it's hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:42:52 2011 No.8059480 >>8059476 She's not even close.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:44:52 2011 No.8059486 >>8059480 SHE IS TOO DAMMIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:44:52 2011 No.8059488 >>8059479 That's called being a smug, it's by no means proof at all that she's stronger than everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:44:52 2011 No.8059489 >>8059463 Power is generally correlated with the kind of boss you are. There's nothing that canonically tells us that the average stage 1 boss is weaker than the average stage 5 boss but it can probably be assumed.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:45:52 2011 No.8059492

Reimu is an anime Miko and youkai hunter, so if it's against youkai, there's probably few that she couldn't actually kill if she wanted to with her shrine maiden powers. She also has powers related to manipulating barriers and borders, at least able to enclose areas in a loop like in IN and SA.

She also historically doesn't like training, so she gets by on natural skill i.e. she could be so much stronger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:45:52 2011 No.8059493 So, if we take all doujin works (also, obviously, factoring in the canon stuff) in existence, who's the strongest Touhou character?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:46:52 2011 No.8059494 >>8059480 Yes she is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:47:52 2011 No.8059496 >>8059493 Cirno.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:47:52 2011 No.8059497 File: 85 KB, 840x819, t.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059455 I doubt that would work out well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:49:52 2011 No.8059502 >>8059492 She trained for 10 minutes and was already able to channel the power of the gods.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Mon Oct 31 19:52:52 2011 No.8059507
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>>8059428

The power to eat anything you like without ever getting fat.
The power to give off a pleasant fragrance.
The power to disguise your heirloom superweapons as a cat.

So you'll keep an awesome figure, but people will be less interested in your and more interested in why your cat smells like violets.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 19:57:42 2011 No.8059514 >>8059489 It's still irrelevant because there's no type of boss that's only ever the top grade. Extra bosses especially are a pretty wide range.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 20:13:41 2011 No.8059565 >>8059507 They could have their children have the same powers if they were to mate with Reimu, that's something at least.

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Mon Oct 31 20:22:11 2011 No.8059589 File: 251 KB, 700x975, reimuorb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8059565 True, most of the demonslaying hocus pocus is inherited. The spirit orbs are just a convenient piece of gear. Well, most often convenient.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Mon Oct 31 22:03:46 2011 No.8059945 >>8059489 Yuyucow was a stage 1 boss in the last game, so the arguments behind the reasoning of Lvl5 boss > Lvl1 boss are obsolete.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 22:08:43 2011 No.8059955 >>8059945 That's because she's already proven her worth. I guess I'm just so unused to having to argue that Yuuka is strong that I can't think of a way to do it.

Anonymous Mon Oct 31 22:15:43 2011 No.8059978

why plot armor aside?

Reimu's as strong as ZUN wants her to be, unless you subscribe to the theory that fans all have their own conception of characters blah blah blah

in either case power level debates based on canon are worthless. If plot counts, she's invincible. If it doesn't, no point arguing with evidence.

>>	proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Mon Oct 31 22:19:45 2011 No.8059990 >>8059955 Well, then let's determine how powerful a character is by how they are positioned in the fandom scale. Just kidding, please don't kill me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 22:20:47 2011 No.8059993 >>8059955 Yuuka is strong because she was playable and all playable characters are the strongest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 23:01:43 2011 No.8060080 >>8059978 It makes no sense stating that then, because then it's the same as saying that all characters are as strong as ZUN wants them to be, you know, what naturally happens in a magic fantasy story, the creator does whatever he wants.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 23:12:44 2011 No.8060098 >>8059489 >>8059955 No it's not, that'd be saying that Yuugi is weaker than almost half the Touhou cast.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 23:14:44 2011 No.8060106 >>8060098 Yuugi is an exception. Please don't tell me that you're denying the trend that early bosses are weaker than latter ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 23:17:18 2011 No.8060111 >>8060106 What about Reimu? And Marisa? And the times you fought the the heroines in early PoFV/IaMP/SWR stages? Come on anon, you can't make a trend something canon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 31 23:20:44 2011 No.8060117 >>8060106 It's true but what can you show from that when talking about a particular character?

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