/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

O.k that's it /jp/

I dare you, just DARE you to show me a single remix/arrangement Touhou album that manages to be excellent from start to finish. No filler/repetitive bullshit, high quality choice of synth, no amateur guitaring, audible bassline, varied percussion and and overall professional feel. If there isn't any feeling or heart in it either, then forget it.

Example; Find something like this that manages to maintain itself throughout.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2nx_DkIlrBQ (PS, if you are a faggot who does not enjoy slow paced segments in their music, it picks up at about 2:30)

In before a million people say Sinen, which I admit, come close, but not quite.

Also in before a million haters who insist I'll say everything is shit.

And in before retards who claim that it SHOULD be excessively repetitive.

[Anonymous No.]

STOP RIGHT THERE, SPACE MARINE SCUM

[Anonymous No.]

in during no one caring

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody wants to find music for you.

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>>805289
This thread is relevant to my interest.

[(ノ゜-゜)ノ☆ DOZO! !FUKOwwFrJM No.]

WAVE ARCHIV-EAST

[Anonymous No.]

Pretentious moron.

[Anonymous No.]

Your opinion is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

Stuff by SOUND HOLIC, particularly the geist jazz band, or Sekken-ya..

But yeah, what they said.

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>>805301

but your's isn't mirite

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>>805298
I was just trying to find that album title.

So, again, ARCHIVE-EAST, from WAVE. Try disc 2, track 4.

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>>805300

And the majority of 4chan isn't?

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

"Enjoy" your high standards

[Anonymous No.]

Golden City Factory, album 疾風東方大作戦

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>>805319

I usually do, seeing as I've got over 80 gigs of music I regularly listen to from various genres.

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TOLD YOU RICE. I bet you're reading this voreboy.
I told you that there's more people than me that is fed up with those lame remixes without feeling or real rhythm.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>805322
You won't enjoy Touhou music, your expectations are too high.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

SINEN.

Last track: 8 minutes of awesome. It's definitely professional stuff, and you lack taste and/or an ear for music if you say otherwise.

Also, Anathema? Sure is WEAK, GIRLY DOOMDEATH METAL around here.

Have a real man's song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAAW00ug2Y

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>>805331

So in other words, nobody puts any real effort into any of this?

And yet you still have a gigantic circlejerks about it?

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None.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>805339
Yes. Touhou sucks. Now go back to /mu/.

[Anonymous No.]

Go back to bed, James.

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>>805337

>Also, Anathema? Sure is WEAK, GIRLY DOOMDEATH METAL around here.

Anathema stopped being Doom wayyyy back during Alternative 4. Doesn't mean I like their new Atmospheric/Prog rock approach.

>Have a real man's song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxAAW00ug2Y

Fuck yes, Anaal Nathrahk. Probably one of my favourite BM bands.

But I'm not deluded in thinking that most people would just sage and say LOL THAT'S SHIT GO BACK TO /mu/ if I did something like that.

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I'm quite surprised at the extreme hostility people seem to be showing to the OP regarding this.

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>>805365
It's because we've done this at least 50 times with the exact same results in the end.

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>>805350

But /mu/ sucks, because I don't fit into any of the 3 great demographs.

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>>805365
We'd help if the OP wasn't a faggot.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Real music fans don't post in /mu/.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>805365
Its because these kind of threads always cause "my tastes are superior to yours, stupid weeabos, go listen to good music" shitstorms.

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>>805337
Hey now, Sleepless is a good song.

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>>805367

So there's something wrong with posting links to stuff you think is good even when the OP's already stated he's not going to go and say "LOL IT'S SHIT" to everything?

I mean seriously, there's a thread hide for a reason.

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/jp/ - Music

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

/jp/, we need to make our own Touhou remix, and show the Japanese how it's done.

That's the only way we can end this discussion.

[Anonymous No.]

All Demetori and Kota-Rock Albums, also some of Alstroemeria Records, TAMs and Sound Holics albums.


Oh, and also UI-70's new album riddles covered in flowers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i3D8rNp508

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黒夜葬, only album I know about is Gothic

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>>805396
sure, why not?

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Unknown Little Scarlet - album: Love Fragments

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>>805375

Uhhh. I think I already said I wasn't going to critique anything, I'm just looking for an example.

Technically there is already a composer I where EVERYTHING they'd done was of extremely high quality (mukyou), but they've never done an album, so, eh.

>All Demetori and Kota-Rock Albums, also some of Alstroemeria Records, TAMs and Sound Holics albums.


All of those have filler, what are you talking about?

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>>805408
So, what is your concept of filler then?

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>>805396
I'm in.

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>>805289

So, as far as I can tell, Demetori is exactly what you're looking for from what you've described but you don't want them for some reason.

And then you want us to give you post rock bands or some shit. Just go play Touhou and listen to Explosions in the Sky.

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>>805414
Which part is the bottom?

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TAM

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>>805414

tracks that don't particularly stand out in any way at all, or else just pale in comparison to the rest of the better material on the album.

>>805337

>Last track: 8 minutes of awesome. It's definitely professional stuff, and you lack taste and/or an ear for music if you say otherwise.

Since I forgot to reply to this, I think you're missing the part where it says "ALBUM" not SONG.

Good song though.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>805408
This mukyou?

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>>805417

>So, as far as I can tell, Demetori is exactly what you're looking for from what you've described but you don't want them for some reason.

Because they've got filler, and use the same 3 chord style intro far too much and have some plain awful songs.

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>>805420
THE SAME COULD BE SAID ABOUT ALL MUSIC

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>>805421

If it's this http://www.mukyou.jp/Music.html then yes.

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Reverie by Everfades is excellent.

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>>805408
Please pinpoint the filler in stuff like
闇深祭 ~darkness illusion~
Sinen
TAMUSICコンサート?東方編?

Also, don't bitch about a single introduction song in an else awesome album, asshat.

Also, crowsclaw and studio k2s last 2 albums.

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

>>805421
Sadly mukyou only did track 3, 5 and 10 of this one.

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>>805430

I know plenty albums that don't have any filler in them at all.

>>805438

>Also, don't bitch about a single introduction song in an else awesome album, asshat.

Lol, didn't you read the first post? START TO FINISH.

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>>805289
This is not how it works

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3sm6RcBpXU

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I don't get why you need a whole album with no filler.

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>>805443

Congrats retard, that's from Sinen, AND was already mentioned in the thread.

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>>805441
I was going to help you but you're being an arse about it.

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>>805441
Those are your tastes, not everybody likes doom/black metal.

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>>805449

I don't get why I shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

hurfdurf i listen to videogame music and complain about it being repetitive

>>805428

slow parts are filler

[Anonymous of Munich !rGY7tOJOkw No.]

>>805398
∵Ga[Я]deN∵ and ∞UroboroS∞ by this circle are also pretty great

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>>805452


What makes you think all I listen to is Doom/Black Metal? I've just said, no filler.

An album that maintains a standard of quality all the way from the first track, genre doesn't really matter.

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OP's tastes are different than mine, and so I cannot guarantee satisfaction. Obviously, UI-70 and Demetori are in your genre.

My guess for something you'd find excellent is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEY4d0JTwA&fmt=18
優雅に咲かせ、墨染の桜 ～ Border of Life
如臨深遠 ～雨縒煙柳～
Demetori

I'm suggesting this because it has calm-ish parts like in the video you posted. You seem to be a classical music guy if you don't get bored by the calm parts and you're not using it as music to listen to while working.

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>>805455
Because it's easier to find good individual tracks rather than a whole album that's consistent in its quality?

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>>805460

>slow parts are filler

No, Slow parts are changes in pace.

>hurfdurf i listen to videogame music and complain about it being repetitive

congratulations, you fail. Plenty of unrepetitive VG music.

[Anonymous No.]

Stop replying to this anal fag.

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>>805443
OH REALLY? Guess why it was posted in the first place.

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>>805289
>Also in before I say everything is shit and I don't like the things you've suggested.

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>>805464

Are people somehow managing to miss the "Sinen" part of my post?

>>805465

If they can do a single good track, why not for the rest of the album?

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>>805462
How many times can you complain about filler in the same thread? I don't even know what you're talking about. It seems to contradict your previous statement:

>(PS, if you are a faggot who does not enjoy slow paced segments in their music, it picks up at about 2:30)

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm3601894

good toho music

[Anonymous No.]

>>805475
Because they didn't. I'm still not seeing your point as to why you need to listen to a whole album rather than individual tracks.

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>>805462
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fBplMHJM77Y

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>>805478

I'm saying that in case you're someone who'll go "oh lol, slow parts in music are boring where's my fucking DRAGONFORCE LOL"

I certainly don't think so anyway.


I've already said, filler is anything that's a substantial drop in quality from standards set by previous songs.

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>>805475
I have no fucking clue what sinen means.

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>O.k that's it /jp/
>I dare you,
Stopped right there. Don't you know a troll when you see one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>805482

>because they didn't

What? That doesn't make any sense, I'm asking because if someone can make a good song, there's no reason why they can't make more good songs.

Unless that single good song was just a fluke, in which case, they're overall bad by default usually.


A entire good album indicates the creators obviously put a lot of effort into their work instead of just maybe one or two songs.

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>>805487
Lower your standards or enjoy being lonely.

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What does "filler" mean?

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>>805472
This.




Op is a troll. 7/10 for effort and following up.

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>>805490

That's the fucking album where half these songs people are posting are from.

Sinen, by Demetori.

Jesus, how can you link songs if you don't know where the album they're from is?

[Kordox !DOZOaniwcg No.]

>>805289
Faggotry

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>>805495

Haven't I already made this clear? I've never had to drop my standards to enjoy any other form of music, so why now?

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>>805500
Enter your Japanese / Kanji / Website (Beta)
如臨深遠 ～雨縒煙柳～

?? shinen ? u ?? yanagi ?

It says shinen, unless it's in Chinese. (if so, then screw it, whatever)

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>805449
>>I don't get why you need a whole album with no filler.

"These amateur albums sold for $2 at Japanese conventions should be professional quality!"

I'm not really sure what's up with the OP either. Plenty of songs fit his criteria. Just not whole albums, because fan-made stuff doesn't work that way. Then again, many professional albums don't even fit that criteria, so yeah.

>>805415
/jp/ Touhou remix collab? LET'S DO THIS.

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>>805494
Who cares if they're overall "bad quality", or if that one song was a fluke? If that one song was good, just listen to that one and ignore the rest of the album.

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>>805494
I0m sure they thought the songs they made were good songs. Have you ever composed or arranged anything?

[Anonymous No.]

OP is a faggot. Not a troll. Don't reward him for such faggotry.

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>>805506
The problem is that what you may see as bad and filler, other people enjoy very much, just like what you may enjoy, other people do not like at all. You seem to fail to understand that. Thus, sage

[Anonymous No.]

In this thread someone confuses "i don't like this song" for "this song is shitty by all standards of judging music"

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>>805510

>I'm not really sure what's up with the OP either. Plenty of songs fit his criteria. Just not whole albums, because fan-made stuff doesn't work that way. Then again, many professional albums don't even fit that criteria, so yeah.

I don't see why you're getting so anal about the request to find something that manages to be entirely good, with real effort and put into it.

Shit, look at Cave Story, single man project, probably one of the best 2d Metroidvania games I have EVER played. Not even fucking joking, ties up there with games like Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night for me.

And it was done by one guy!

What's wrong with wanting something like that to happen with music?

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>>805487
Can you please explain the difference between "slow parts" and "filler"?

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>>805531
GET OUT.

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I SURE ENJOY THE SAME DISCUSSION OVER AND OVER.

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>>805521

I'm in a band. I know when what I write isn't that good, and I'm not about to throw anything I ever made out there for criteria unless I'm pleased that it's as close to perfection as is possible.

>>805518

Except knowing the rest of the album is a dissapointment has a negative impact on my opinion of the song at large because it makes me ponder as to how they could make something so good, yet not manage to make anything else to accompany it.

Why not just release one song then?

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>>805531

Cave Story was a boring rehash of older genres with a retarded weapon system and filler boss fights.

See how easy this is?

[None !KYON.wwv9s No.]

Goddammit /jp/, you fall for it every time.

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Maybe he's trying to compete with the tourneyfag thread from yesterday. At this rate, /jp/'s gonna get canned.

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>>805500
Well, having 80+Gb of touhou music, it is hard remembering the exact album where one song is, specially if that one song is in another compilation.

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>>805552
that damned chess tournament from /a/ was pretty shit too

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>>805535

For the final time.


"Filler tracks" are tracks on an album that are of substantially lower quality than the rest of the "good songs" on an album.

"Slow segments" are not filler, my original post was only made in regards to people who find slow segments boring for whatever reason. That is all.

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>>805544

>filler boss fights

Wait, wut.

If you're gonna call something filler in Cave Story, then the platforming segments are something you can critique better than the BOSS fights of all things.

How can a boss fight be filler unless it's a boss rush?

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>>805559

You're a dumb faggot anyway. That's not what filler is. That's called a "bad song". The minute long violin hum intro on CDs? That's filler.

[Anonymous of Munich !rGY7tOJOkw No.]

>>805531
Then I'd suggest listening to the cave story bgm (which I actually liked)

And I don't have these abillites to spot those repeative parts in songs and such and so on

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>>805555

You mean you people don't even have stuff labeled properly?

Wow, I can't imagine that. I'd go nuts if my collection wasn't ordered and sorted out properly.

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>>805559
Your thread is a filler.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>805531
Your Cave Story example just solidifies the fact that this whole thing is based on personal taste. Many "professional" examples of albums were presented, but your tastes are so "unconventional" you cannot recognize their quality.

You must be a professional musican IRL. Enjoy never making it big though, as there are three types of musicians who will always fail no matter what: druggies, drunks, and egos.

You would be the latter.

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>>805565

You're missing the point.

It's called filler because it's there to make the overall "product" bigger. It's not there for any other reason other than to pad up the rest of it, because it's not that good of a song in comparison.

>>805566

I liked the cave story bgm.

Really, repetition itself isn't entirely a bad thing, it's when it's overdone.

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>three types of musicians who will always fail no matter what: druggies, drunks, and egos.
>musicians who will always fail no matter what:
>drunks
>ZUN !barYV1VtIA

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>>805574

>Your Cave Story example just solidifies the fact that this whole thing is based on personal taste. Many "professional" examples of albums were presented, but your tastes are so "unconventional" you cannot recognize their quality.

Except I haven't commented on all of them or anything.

I've said Sinen comes close, yet people keep posting it.
I repeat, I haven't even commented on most of the albums listed here.

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>>805585

Oh and;

>You must be a professional musican IRL. Enjoy never making it big though, as there are three types of musicians who will always fail no matter what: druggies, drunks, and egos.

Since when did making it big have to matter if I'm doing what I love?

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Reimu is the only good thing this thread has.

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hay guise, its easy to troll the op, he thinks fucking anathema are top quality.

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[Anonymous No.]

You know, imagedumping isn't really a good counteraction to a thread where images aren't being posted.

[Thana !SenSEIjfhI No.]

>>805289
Keep your music blogging elsewhere preferably your BLOG.

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I demand only the finest doujin shooting game arrange music albums. Failure to provide me with them will tarnish my personal opinion of the dojin shooting game arrange music scene and all of its representatives. And my opinion is important.

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>>805588
enjoy your hunger

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>>805601
At least it will accelerate the process of reaching maximum post count and thus establishing autosage.

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[Anonymous of Munich !rGY7tOJOkw No.]

on a sidenote:
is this the speed of summer?

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>>805601
Just to make the thread autosage faster

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Faggotory reaching critical mass.

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waki miko reimu!

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[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

I have decided that my Touhou guitar remix shall include the themes of Sanae and Kanako.

They are the best songs from the best Touhou game, so it only makes sense.

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It's impossible to make a claim that artists are simply padding an album. How can you say they aren't trying something experimental which may not be liked by a wide audience? How can you tell the difference between an artist saying, I just want to pad this lets throw in shit to, I'd like these songs to have some deeper meaning so I'll make something people may not enjoy but could become a great musical breakthrough and new artform?

Hmm, I've never posted an image and saged at the same time

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>>805636
>>805641
Why did you do that?!

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God dammit.. I admit it.. failed there

SAGE

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>805643
>>padding

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>>805643
>>padding

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>>805643
And I don't even understand what is bad about "padding" an album... unless you wan't to listen to it as a whole of course

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>>805643

>It's impossible to make a claim that artists are simply padding an album. How can you say they aren't trying something experimental which may not be liked by a wide audience? How can you tell the difference between an artist saying, I just want to pad this lets throw in shit to, I'd like these songs to have some deeper meaning so I'll make something people may not enjoy but could become a great musical breakthrough and new artform?


Because none of the tracks I consider "filler" from any of the listed stuff have any attributes that lean them towards anything "experimental" at all.

They're just generally substandard, due to many factors.

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>>805664
Oh God, you're still here?

Needs more Reimu.

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>>805664

Your mom is filler.

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OP is like a newfag complaining that all anime except elfen lied and evangelion are shit because they aren't deep enough.

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>>805643

How dare you use my wife to sage!

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>>805657

Well you hit the nail on the head there.

When I listen to music I usually listen to the entire album a song is from instead of just you know, a few songs here and there.

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>>805674

I see no Reisen. Or Aya.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Let's just decide this with a guitar battle.

My opponent can choose the song.

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>>805671

That's a pretty poor comparison.

There are different ways to get entertainment out of anime, but it really burns down to one thing in music.

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>>805683

Apparently you don't see my tripcode either.

Reisen and Aya re both very nice, butthey know their place in regards to Galaxy Angel.

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>>805684

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpfz5Vnr-_A

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Sup, OP here.

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[Anonymous of Munich !rGY7tOJOkw No.]

hatsune more like hatezune, amirite?

let's just hope noone reads my crap post (I haven't even seen a Zune yet)

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Anyway, someone made me get, SOUND HOLIC - SOUND HOLIC MEETS TOHO - Collection of Eastern Short Pieces.

Which, doesn't really do much for me, but I gotta say, it's entirely pure quality from start to finish.

So I've been proven wrong.

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How the hell did this turn into a Mikujack?

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saeg

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another one for great justice

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you don't see ownage like this anymore

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WTF??

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>>804273
Why do these stairs keep getting inserted into every thread?

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>>806497,3
>>806497,2
It's a bug that Eksopl (the genious behind the archives, THAT Eksopl) never fixed.

>>806497,1
No one ever tries anymore. I see better trolls on /i/ than /jp/, which is just sad.

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>>806497,4
Trolls haven't worked on /jp/ since 2008. It's like complaining you don't see snow on Sahara. Of course you don't, it'd melt right away.

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Do you have stairs in your house? xD