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Life finds a way

>> No.8026025
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Chaos theory suggests exactly that.

>> No.8026057

Alice is so beautiful. She is the most perfect 2D girl.

I don't think Reimu is good enough for Alice personally.

>> No.8026082

So, who sucks who's cock?

>> No.8026145

...damn, they're actually pretty cute.
>>8026057
hi recu

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>>8026082

>> No.8026149

>>8026082
You suck mine, dude

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>>8026025
Love that artist.

>> No.8026170

Touhous reproduce asexually.

Stop spreading your misinformation.

>> No.8026172
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I assume Frog DNA was somehow involved.

>> No.8026173

>>8026170
The mating ritual of the modern Touhou is complex and deep. During periods of great stress, usually brought on by environmental events such as unusual fog or violent weather patterns a Touhou will become agitated from normal behavior and take to the sky in search of a mate. When a possible suitor is discovered a terse verbal exchange is made in which the two Touhous evaluate the willingness to mate of the other party. If both parties are prepared to reproduced they begin the complex mating dance of the Touhou.
They release haploid gametophytes called "danmaku" in a semi-random pattern over an extended period of time. This danmaku is comparable to the way in which plants release large amounts of pollen over a wide area. However it also serves another purpose. Much like the peacock's plume the way in which a Touhou arranges danmaku beautifully demonstrates the sexual fitness of a potential mate. If a danmaku reaches an egg, sometimes called a "hit box" then that Touhou will typically become submissive and follow the now dominant partner to a new location for tea, a necessary nutrient for the growing child.

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>>8026172
We know how Sanae came to be.

>> No.8026179

>>8026018
those are just dolls, not children

>> No.8026185

>>8026057
Funny, because I was thinking exactly the opposite.

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>>8026170

Indeed. They use a magical cloning process which allows them to make near-perfect replicas of themselves, with selected traits of their partners.

>> No.8026210

>>8026173

yesssssssssssssssssssss

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>> No.8026239

I guess Reimu would be the dad of the relationship.

I kinda would be interested to see Reimu as a futa. An abusive drunken futa that raped Alice.

>> No.8026246

>>8026239

see >>8026150

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>>8026239

>> No.8026279

>>8026239

Funny, I'd like to see the same thing only with the roles reversed.

>> No.8026287

I'll bet all the touhous have really deeply-ingrained attitudes that condemn lesbianism, and would never ever engage in lesbian activities themselves to the point that they would actively harass and ostracize those who did

>> No.8026294

>>8026287
You mean like how nobody complained about Seiga and Miyako?

>> No.8026295

>>8026287
i think that was the plot of subterranean animism

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>>8026287
Pfft.

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>>8026298
TANUKI SIGHTED.

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...I'm sorry, what?

>> No.8026341

>>8026294

That is a relationship of corpse servant and necromancer/summoner, not one of some form of deviant love

>>8026298

I fail to see the lesbianism here

>> No.8026345

>>8026341
Miyako was her husband until he died, she then revived him as a woman, screams lesbianism to me.

And even if it weren't that way (I'm not actually sure), they're still two feminine beings as a pairing.

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>> No.8026361

>>8026345

>Miyako was her husband until he died, she then revived him as a woman, screams lesbianism to me.

I have absolutely no clue what incredible drug-fueled odyssey you went on to get this but please tell me what it is, I could use the visions

>they're still two feminine beings as a pairing.

Relationships between two women do not default to 'lesbianism' - they can be friends, acquaintances, work colleagues, or any other combination of utterly non-romantic pairings (unless your incredible journeys to the other side of consciousness have revealed otherwise)

Besides, one is simply an unfeeling, barely-thinking corpse who is about a step up beyond a tick in terms of intellectual development, while the other is commited to a lifestyle which, uh, kind of precludes any sorts of sexual relationships (unless your journeys and some matter of research have revealed that hermits actuallly enjoyed the most incredible sex lives, which I severely doubt)

Ultimately, there are no lesbians in touhou, and attitudes in a pre-modern pastiche fantasy realm are hardly likely to be conducive to the topic of gay rights

>> No.8026372

>>8026361
How often do you contemplate suicide?

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>>8026361
I see I see, but one thing bothers me.

>there are no lesbians in touhou

Ho ho, you can't assure whether or not this is false just yet.

>> No.8026378

>>8026361
It may have come from the original story that Seiga and Miyako are based from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strange_Stories_from_a_Chinese_Studio

>> No.8026380

>>8026374
I suppose she lost her nose in a gap accident

>> No.8026394

>>8026372

What drove you to ask this question

>>8026374

If there are, one imagines that they go to the greatest pains to hide their perversion from the wider public, and certainly do not ever show their affection in any form in Gensokyo's public sphere

Ultimately a bizarre fantasy realm seperated from Earth at a time when gay rights was something not even conceived of yet, let alone put into the slughtest form of action or agitation, is hardly the place one suspects to be a hidden homo paradise

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>>8026394
There's no hierarchy in either the human side or the youkai side inside Gensokyo that would limit any kind of action regarding relationships, after all, there's nobody who we've seen yet that would act like an actual feudal-era Japan member, or at least follow its traditional ways.

It's more of a free will, for example, normally youkai would be shun by humans and be feared of at all times, yet you see Reimu making parties at her shrine with every single Touhou she's beaten assisting, most of which are youkai.

You shouldn't relate such an absurd world such as Gensokyo with actual history in terms of behavioral possibilities.

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Wait....i'm lost. Who is lesbian?

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Zoom in left there because I couldn't be arsed to beat the game and take another pic.

>> No.8026460

>>8026450
Get this --- it's you -- lol

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>>8026460
Have to admit that was pretty funny

>> No.8026483

>>8026433

Except that hatred and revulsion towards homosexuality has historically been the norm across the world, even before, say, interaction with the west or even with an Abrahamic religion - this has been a trait shared by the fantasy worlds peoples of these cultures have themselves created. This hatred of homosexuality is a huge constant and unless we take Gensokyo as somehow a gigantic inversion of all this (we do not: ZUN would be sure to inform otherwise)

Lifestyles within Gensokyo, according to additional material (Akyu's stuff) tend to resemble those of a pre-modern period. These lifestyles would surely continue to enforce the old attitudes and taboos. Sudden gay rights would pose a huge challenge to a number of customs, yet these customs persist - obviously homo rights are not 'a thing' on the Gensokyoan (uggghhh) agenda

We must also take Reimu as an outlier, and remember that she herself is generally shunned and despised by the populace, who only seek to have anything to do with her when something comes down upon their heads - if there was no threat, they would simply have lynched her long before now; her usefulness is the only thing that keeps her alive

It additionally mentions that yes, Reimu is hated and feared for the contact she has with youkai, so uhhh sorry about your argument I guess?!?

Oh well. Hieda no Homo

>> No.8026490

>>8026483
>Except that hatred and revulsion towards homosexuality has historically been the norm across the world
No. That's wrong, get out of your modern world-view. Didn't bother with the rest of the text.

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>>8026483
Go write a fucking novel. It sounds like your up to your tits in this information.
Heres an idea. Summarize

>> No.8026502

>>8026483
You know homosexuality was hugely common (at least among men) in sengoku era Japan, right?To say nothing about Greece and Rome...

>> No.8026504 [DELETED] 

>>8026490
At least you're making some use of your Bachelor of Arts

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>>8026499
>>8026483

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>> No.8026516

>>8026483
>shunned and despised by the populace

No she's not, Tewi herself went in PMiSS asking for donations in the village with only the excuse of ''the shrine is doing bad'' which is actually true, and they all complied.

It's fear they have of the youkai, not hatred.

>has historically been the norm across the world

I said it already, don't compare Gensokyo to the outside world.

>Lifestyles within Gensokyo, according to additional material (Akyu's stuff) tend to resemble those of a pre-modern period

Even if she mentions the lifestyle is similar, it is not quite so, even villagers associate themselves with youkai who are known to be dangerous but agreed to be at peace, that would never happen in the outside world.

>who only seek to have anything to do with her when something comes down upon their heads

They don't even know it's her the one who solves incidents nor does she need anyone telling her about incidents since she notices them herself all the time. This is also the reason why she doesn't get any pay for her actions, unless you count Yukari's anonymous donations, but she's not a human villager anyway.

>> No.8026511

>>8026483
At least you're making some use of your Bachelor of Arts

>> No.8026513

>>8026490

I assume you will take this opportunity to talk about the Greeks and Romans

Let me assure you that their ideas of homosexuality were of dominance and power, not of mutual sexual pleasure in a loving relationship - compare the lauding heaped upon the giver with the hatred heaped upon the hapless slaveboy receiver

Homosexuality was also often the butt (harhar) of much derogatory humor - it was clearly perceived in a rather poor fashion. Beyond that, what you are probably left with is gay or leftist historians trying to open new spaces for homosexuality in the pre-modern world (which work out rather poorly, and are generally ill-supported by the evidence)

If you have any examples beyond that, please feel free to post them

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People are taking this way too seriously...
All I caught was something between Touhou and Homosexuality.

>> No.8026537

>>8026516
>Tewi herself went in PMiSS

Meant to say BAiJR, oops.

>> No.8026560

>>8026507
My nutbladder....

>> No.8026561

>>8026516

>No she's not, Tewi herself went in PMiSS asking for donations in the village with only the excuse of ''the shrine is doing bad'' which is actually true, and they all complied.

Fear they would lose their protection: it is one thing to shun her and want her dead, but as is said they still rely upon her for security - they are surprisingly long-sighted in this manner

>I said it already, don't compare Gensokyo to the outside world.

But Gensokyo must necessarily arise from the ideological and material conditions of the outside world at the point from which it was formed, and these conditions inform every part of the scenario beyond pastiche pieces from similarly pre-modern periods in other parts of the world - these places are just as unlikely to bring with them the idea of gay tolerance, let alone rights

>even villagers associate themselves with youkai who are known to be dangerous but agreed to be at peace

This tolerance lies couched within a threat of force, rather than any pissant agreement

>They don't even know it's her the one who solves incidents nor does she need anyone telling her about incidents since she notices them herself all the time.

They would know enough to know that it is the shrine maiden's supposed role to exterminate youkai, and could thus safely assume it

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>>8026561
>But Gensokyo must necessarily arise from the ideological and material conditions of the outside world at the point from which it was formed, and these conditions inform every part of the scenario beyond pastiche pieces from similarly pre-modern periods in other parts of the world - these places are just as unlikely to bring with them the idea of gay tolerance, let alone rights

the......fuck?

>> No.8026583

>>8026173
This post is now becoming kopipe. Enjoy your immortality.

>> No.8026589

>>8026583
I have news for you...

>> No.8026590

Why has there been so many discussions about gay issues recently on /jp/? I'm gay myself, and I actually like those discussions, but I just find it weird how there's so many all of a sudden.

>> No.8026597

>>8026590
moot finally started banning all the filthy pedotrash and made us more visable. HORRAY! a day of great victory!

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>>8026597
what does that have anything to do with homosexuality?

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>>8026455

Curves in endings are not unprecedented.

>> No.8026610

>>8026561
>it is one thing to shun her and want her dead

Where did you get this from? It only said that they didn't donate because a) They fear the youkai at her shrine and b) She doesn't advertise on her own. It's mentioned that they did it ''thinking that it would be nice to donate to the shrine'', right from the Tewi article.

>But Gensokyo must necessarily arise from the ideological and material conditions of the outside world at the point from which it was formed

It may have arised from there, but as we have seen, it's no longer that way, please read the above posts instead of ignoring them, same goes for the above point.

>They would know enough to know that it is the shrine maiden's supposed role to exterminate youkai, and could thus safely assume it

They don't even know that Reimu is the shrine maiden, they only know that ''the Hakurei shrine maiden is allowing creepy youkai on her shrine''.

>This tolerance lies couched within a threat of force, rather than any pissant agreement

Where the hell did you get this from? Anyway, Yuuka herself comes to the village to buy goods from the market, Reisen comes to sell medicine, Keine is the defender of the village and is also a teacher and the manual states that her kind is liked by everyone.

Please don't make things up and don't ignore my posts please.

>> No.8026617

>>8026604
they got banned and can not post anymore, so the gay comunity is a majority now

>> No.8026619

>>8026604

Previously, the space reserved for sexual discussion had been monopolized by pedophiles

With the seeming removal of these pedophiles the space is now free to be colonized by other sexual discourses - including, of course, homosexual discourses

My argument here is that Gensokyo is not a gay-friendly place and would, in fact (owing to the conditions which it arose from and continue to define it) be actively hostile to homosexuality in any form

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>>8026610
>Yuuka, Reisen, Keine
Don't forget the youkai who sells her newspaper to the villagers as well.

>> No.8026623

Kill yourselves. All of you.

>> No.8026625

>>8026619
>My argument here is that Gensokyo is not a gay-friendly place and would, in fact (owing to the conditions which it arose from and continue to define it) be actively hostile to homosexuality in any form

Your argument only has base in assumptions made from ancient history, whereas it's clear that Gensokyo is nowhere near close following the same behavior as feudal Japan.

>> No.8026630

>>8026513
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

>> No.8026629

>>8026623

Try harder not to be such a bore, first

Seriously, if this is all the effort you can invest then that bodes ill for your desires

>> No.8026633

>>8026613
Reported and called the ZUN.

>> No.8026635

>>8026513
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Band_of_Thebes

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IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>> No.8026653

>>8026610

>They don't even know that Reimu is the shrine maiden


So you propose that Gensokyo is populated by a people illiterate to their own cultural norms and cues, especially qua uniforms and clothing - a very spirited and odd argument

>Yuuka herself comes to the village to buy goods from the market, Reisen comes to sell medicine

Little can be done to stop the first and the second monopolizes a valuable commodity produced in an unreachable fortress, which are the only defences against the people exterminatingher and putting her people to either the sword or the slaver's whip

>Keine is the defender of the village

In real life, this is what they called a 'house negro' or, more recently, 'one of the good ones' - a class tolerated only due to it accepting its own subjugation and internalizing that subjugation

Nope, still doesn't look good for you

>> No.8026658

>>8026635

An interesting attempt to weaponize the psychology of homosexuality, but not exactly an argument that the greeks liked homosexuals

>> No.8026663

>>8026637
>>8026018
>>8026202
>>8026507
It's really creepy of parents to push their own fashion onto their offspring.

>> No.8026667

>>8026653
>So you propose that Gensokyo is populated by a people illiterate to their own cultural norms and cues, especially qua uniforms and clothing - a very spirited and odd argument

I'm not proposing it, it's a fact, Reimu herself comments on how nobody ever pays her for solving incidents and Keine says it's because she doesn't advertise it on the village and therefore they wouldn't know (apparently WaHH Ch.8 deals on why she doesn't advertise), when Tewi attempted it, she got instant donations because people thought she was from the shrine, there's no way you can confuse Reimu with a youkai rabbit therefore they couldn't have known of Reimu beforehand.

>Little can be done to stop the first and the second monopolizes a valuable commodity produced in an unreachable fortress, which are the only defences against the people exterminatingher and putting her people to either the sword or the slaver's whip

You're not helping your case.

>a class tolerated only due to it accepting its own subjugation and internalizing that subjugation

The manual states that her kind is liked by the humans and even mentions that it's rude to dislike them. Stop making things up.

>Nope, still doesn't look good for you

Good job ignoring my other points and making things up for the ones you answered.

>> No.8026670

>>8026637
White + Red = Pink hair?

Fuck Mendel.

>> No.8026674

>>8026619
>>8026617
>>8026597
Nope, we're still here, but all our threads get shit on. Don't think that we've left.

Honestly, I'm not sure why you think that this is a war, or that we need to go. Why not just take it easy and coexist?

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>>8026637
I TOLD YOU MAN I TOLD YOU ABOUT DYKES

>> No.8026683

>>8026674
fuck off you sick fuck, take your bullshit to >>>/a/

Reported.

>> No.8026689

>>8026674
I wasn't even aware of anything remotely like this. Did some lolicons actually get banned, or is it a joke or just the typical delusions?

>> No.8026691

>>8026677
So when Kaguya and Mokou have sex they make a rabbit?

>> No.8026700

>>8026667
It's always funny when grimdark-fags try to assume that grimdark gensokyo is cannon, without having actually read any of the supplementary materials.

>> No.8026695

>her kind is liked by the humans and even mentions that it's rude to dislike them

This is because hakutaku are imbued with the odd notion that their utter subjugation and slavery to humanity is a good thing - were Keien to ever seriously question her position in the power relationship between herself and the village, she would be put to death in an instant

>You're not helping your case.

Would you care to explain why

>I'm not proposing it, it's a fact, Reimu herself comments on how nobody ever pays her for solving incidents and Keine says it's because she doesn't advertise it on the village and therefore they wouldn't know (apparently WaHH Ch.8 deals on why she doesn't advertise), when Tewi attempted it, she got instant donations because people thought she was from the shrine, there's no way you can confuse Reimu with a youkai rabbit therefore they couldn't have known of Reimu beforehand.


They perhaps suspected that the absent shrine maiden (who parties with youkai all the time) was sending a youkai emmisary in order to strongarm them into providing donations - so they happily complied, as they have not the power to seriously challenge Reimu after all the various power relationships she herself has established with youkai. One suspects they feared she would bring down all the youkai muscle in Gensokyo upon their heads if they had not only not donated but if they had even been scene as slightly ungrateful in doing so - thus she pursues a policy of both material and psychological dominance

>> No.8026701

>>8026683
Get out.

>> No.8026706

>>8026507
>>8026677
>>8026637
this stuff is far too cute. please, more

>> No.8026707

>>8026689
I was permabanned a few weeks ago with a message of simply "pedo" before, and I only ever post on /jp/. I never post 3DPD, or tell lewd 3D stories, or anything else involving 3Ds, so I am guessing that it was a lewd, though not porn, pic I posted of a loli Miku.

>> No.8026709

>>8026667
>>8026695
christ, arguing touhou lore is as boring as WoW lore, can't we just stick with fanon shit about who is and is not a slut

>> No.8026710

>>8026695
Wow, sure is fanfiction over here.
ZUN has stated that Gensoyko is a relatively peaceful place, stop trying to project your grim and gritty fantasies on to cannon.

>> No.8026718

>8026710

>stop trying to project your grim and gritty fantasies on to cannon.

that would make one fantastic piece of ordinance

>>8026700

>try to assume that grimdark gensokyo is cannon,

It's a world, not a reknowned weapon

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>>8026710
>fanfiction
There's the word I was looking for.

>> No.8026721

>>8026695
>were Keien to ever seriously question her position in the power relationship between herself and the village, she would be put to death in an instant

Don't make things up please, I just proved that her kind is liked yet you try to convince me otherwise.

>Would you care to explain why

Akyuu mentions that over the course of 100 years, youkai and humans slowly started interacting with each other in a peaceful way eventually reaching upon the pact to those youkai who were willing to be peaceful, the humans don't fear these youkai because although they may be powerful, they aren't aggressive and they didn't force their way in any way.

>They perhaps suspected that the absent shrine maiden (who parties with youkai all the time) was sending a youkai emmisary in order to strongarm them into providing donations - so they happily complied, as they have not the power to seriously challenge Reimu after all the various power relationships she herself has established with youkai. One suspects they feared she would bring down all the youkai muscle in Gensokyo upon their heads if they had not only not donated but if they had even been scene as slightly ungrateful in doing so - thus she pursues a policy of both material and psychological dominance

Oh for fuck's sake, your post looks something taken out of a grim fanfic, if she could threaten them into donating then SHE WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE SO. That's all I'm gonna say.

>> No.8026728

>>8026700
You quoted the wrong post.

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>>8026710
relatively peaceful except for all the MAN EATING YOUKAI.

>> No.8026746

>>8026739
Except Rumia is clumsy and fairly weak, and the average human can handle the average weaker youkai, as stated in PMiSS

>> No.8026750

>>8026739
There's none, ever since EoSD, youkai are forbidden to eat humans in Gensokyo (though they are allowed to eat the outside world humans who accidentally cross the barrier and are unable to get to Reimu in time, since they have no danmaku).

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>> No.8026772

>I just proved that her kind is liked

Because they have (as I said) accepted a subordinate position to humans

Much like the KKK would really find black people swell if they as a race decided 'hey backbreaking slavery for our race to another is a good thing let's all do it'

>eventually reaching upon the pact to those youkai who were willing to be peaceful, the humans don't fear these youkai because although they may be powerful, they aren't aggressive

So they have some youkai who seem to have either decided to follow a strategy of infiltration or who have allowed themselves to be neutered and accept a subordinate role

>if she could threaten them into donating then SHE WOULD HAVE ALREADY DONE SO.

Who is to say she has not - besides, the Tewi event you mention is one such show of force

>> No.8026777

>>8026770
When you smuggle an onion smuggler, you're committing a crime against humanity and nature.

>> No.8026788

>>8026772
>Because they have (as I said) accepted a subordinate position to humans

Are you saying that a slave would be liked because it's accepted its subordinate positions to humans and that it would be RUDE not to treat them like normal humans? Don't make me laugh.

>So they have some youkai who seem to have either decided to follow a strategy of infiltration or who have allowed themselves to be neutered and accept a subordinate role

Well you're not arguing at all here, you're just writing an idea for some fanfic since there's nothing you're using as base.

>Who is to say she has not
Her donation box.

>besides, the Tewi event you mention is one such show of force

Tewi went on her own, Reimu even complained about it to Aya (who is the reporter of the article where the Tewi event is mentioned).

>> No.8026792

There's far too many walls of text in this thread. Can't we just talk about the genetics of a touhou baby?

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>> No.8026802

>>8026797
We just had a thread about this.

Cats can't eat onions.

>> No.8026812

For how long is Mugen banned anyway?

>> No.8026810

>>8026772
>Who is to say she has not
The fact it's mentioned that Reimu almost never gets donations in pretty much every official source or story ever?
> besides, the Tewi event you mention is one such show of force
Tewi was ripping the villagers off by pretending to be collecting for the shrine, and pocketing the money for herself. She's a sneaky bitch like that.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Bohemian_Archive_in_Japanese_Red/Tewi

>> No.8026814

>>8026797
I like where this is going...

>> No.8026820

>>8026788

>Are you saying that a slave would be liked because it's accepted its subordinate positions to humans and that it would be RUDE not to treat them like normal humans?

Perhaps that is the one small dignity she demands of them, but more likely it is because acting otherwise might drive her to more fully question her role as a slave. The community has a vested interest in keepin its property, after all.

>Well you're not arguing at all here, you're just writing an idea for some fanfic since there's nothing you're using as base.

I am merely examining reasoning behind the action but going beyond the words of ZUN is generally speculation, yes

>Donation box

Fair enough, I withdraw my argument on this

>>8026792

No homosexuals in Gensokyo

If you want to look at the genetics of a touhou baby just look at the village's young

>> No.8026828

>>8026810
Just to add, Reimu even mentions that she wouldn't collect donations that way because it'd hurt the shrine's reputation

"What the heck, the shrine's donation box gets only leaves, why does that fake one get money?! And why didn't anyone complain about this?! Wouldn't the shrine's reputation get hurt if things go on like this?"

>> No.8026840

>>8026820
>Perhaps that is the one small dignity she demands of them, but more likely it is because acting otherwise might drive her to more fully question her role as a slave. The community has a vested interest in keepin its property, after all.

But she's not a slave, otherwise she wouldn't be allowed to ''enforce things'' like respect, which is what you said. The manual explicitly says that the hakutaku are _treated the same way as a human_ and _it's rude to not treat them like humans_. Their loyalty to humans is an example of the youkai-human eventual-relationship I explained some posts ago.

>> No.8026846

>>8026820
>No homosexuals in Gensokyo

Are we gonna go over this again? Read the whole damn thread if you're gonna ignore any counter arguments. Note that I'm not proving that there are, only that there's a posibility and also denying your assumption that ''Gensokyo is exactly like Feudal Japan and thus forbidding such thoughts''.

>> No.8026850

>>8026820
You're right that same-sex relations weren't really "accepted" in greece and rome, even though they were fairly common. However, in feudal japan they were fairly accepted and even romanticized to a certain degree
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

>> No.8026854

>>8026840

A slave is still a slave, even if it has won for itself the right to call itself a human being.

Look at America: blacks still occupy most of the subordinate positions within society and form a basic 'slave class' in society despite supposedly having won for themselves the rights whites enjoy

>>8026846

It might also have to do with the fact that homosexuals are filth

>> No.8026863

>>8026854

>It might also have to do with the fact that homosexuals are filth

oh fuck this cutoff

>It might also have to do with the fact that homosexuals are filth in the eyes of pretty much all pre-modernity, so even if we do not accept that Gensokyo is feudal Japan, this leaves us no models in which gay rights would be accepted

How monstrously awkward

>> No.8026872

>>8026854
I'm glad we resolved this issue and went over the true /jp/ way: taking it easy and not being serious.

Black Americans' history as a whole has too many factors in their segregation through the country and are generally used for humour purposes instead of actual status degradation, their poverty is a result of their past who were generally unfavoured socially unlike the whites.

>> No.8026875

>>8026850
only male homosexuality was ever tolerated in japan, female homosexuality was and is considered unthinkably freakish

>> No.8026878

>>8026854
>It might also have to do with the fact that homosexuals are filth
Finally, someone who gets it!

>> No.8026895 [DELETED] 

>>8026872

Chris Rock still regrets ever doing that "Black People and Niggers" skit

>>8026875

This is also true

Just accept that there are no lesbians in touhou and that lesbianism would be considered deviant, freakish, disgusting and loathsome by all the characters in it

>> No.8026922

>>8026895
>Just accept

Aww, what happened to reading the thread man. I told you you can't relate Gensokyo to Feudal Japan in many ways, the first one being almost zero remains of attitudinal traditions and no monarchy left to govern either youkais or humans, you're also assuming things from history again.

>> No.8026929

Being homophobic is another way of being a normalfag.

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