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So how does /jp/ feel about this announcement?

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/teaser/

>> No.8003135

Summary

>> No.8003137

feels good man

>> No.8003142

Square/Enix seem to actively have been encouraging people to cultivate either apathy or anger towards this game.

Has this changed lately?

>> No.8003140

This game keeps crashing my computer on me. Feels bad man.

>> No.8003148
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>>8003135
Basically the game is being rebuilt from scratch and set to relaunch next year on a new engine with a new ui and supposedly less shitty overall.

>> No.8003149

But... MMOs are for fags.

>> No.8003146

So fucking far away

>> No.8003153

>>8003128
Wait so as I understand this, the free to play will end this year, however the improved rendition of the game won't be out till the end of next year? What the heck?

>> No.8003155

>>8003149
half of /jp/ are MMO korean fags that got banned from 2ch for spamming it with gay porn.

>> No.8003156

>>8003153
Perhaps they want some quick cash

>> No.8003157

>>8003153
Pretty much. Japs gonna Jap.

>> No.8003163

>>8003148

So if I understand this right... they released a game that was barely playable and overall mediocre and unenjoyable, so now they are withdrawing this game, and releasing a basically entirely different game the next year, under the same name?

>> No.8003166

>>8003148
mite b cool.

>> No.8003165

i don't have a PS3 and my computer can't handle games that come out nowadays, so I don't feel anything.

>> No.8003170

>>8003128
it's shit
>>>/v/

>> No.8003172

>>8003128
Go back to /v/ that one guy who keeps making FF14 threads.

>> No.8003174

Well... the game seems interesting and is actually fun to play these days. Also I have some extra money and I got nothing better to do anyway.

>> No.8003182
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8003182

FF14 probably has the best dev team to be found anywhere in the MMO world these days. I really do hope they can succeed and revitalize the game; However, I still won't give them another penny until they deliver on 2.0.

They outlined that there will be a free trial when 2.0 arrives, and I am waiting warmly for such.

>> No.8003195

>>8003163
>>8003153

The current version of FFXIV is set in an earlier time period before the fall. The version to be released next year takes place after that, and is where the main plot takes place in.

Basically, this is done to make sure subscriber's don't drop the current game, since its content is only accessible for a few months before being completely scrapped.

>> No.8003202

>>8003163
Pretty much. The key points of 2.0 are:

- A usable, built-for-PC user interface.
- A new graphics engine.
- A rebuilt world map that deals with the repetitiveness of the current map.
- A change to one centralized player server, doing away with the concept of game worlds.
- Addition of eight jobs (probably the missing ones from FF11->FF14 transition?)

Basically, everything wrapped about the core of FF14 is being scrapped and rebuilt, and in the interim peroid, the core of the game will continue to be updated and tweaked as it has over the past year.

It honestly sounds like they're promising ten times what they could possibly deliver, but there is little to be done but to wait and see.

>> No.8003211

So what, they're going to destroy the world they made because they don't think it's amusing? Reminds me of what Activision Blizzard did to classic WoW in their latest expansion.

Destroying worlds should be a crime against humanity, even if they're virtual ones.

>> No.8003213

>>8003211
they're destroying it because it's a piece of shit and the only reason people are playing it is because it's free

>> No.8003215

>>8003213
Well this world is a piece of shit and I'm only playing it because it was free but I still don't want it to be destroyed. That's just wrong.

>> No.8003225

>>8003215
Well when it gets nuked you'll have this to remember it by.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FV4yd039RM

>> No.8003223

>>8003202

It sounds sort of like Square/Enix are keeping a ton of nameless games in parallell development, and whichever gets finished in time for the holidays gets the latest Final Fantasy tag slapped on it retroactively.

>> No.8003226

>>8003223
Oh, please.

>> No.8003229

>>8003182
>FF14 probably has the best dev team to be found anywhere in the MMO world these days
I don't think a shitty game has good dev team.

>> No.8003230

>>8003226

Not saying I want to believe it, just that I'm starting to wonder.

>> No.8003234

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWN7kPP-7I

Also the Sultana of Ul'Dah is a delicious Lalafell married to the big burly highlander in the video.

>> No.8003238

>>8003229
That's because you are forming an opinion based on what you heard about the game a year ago.

>> No.8003236

>>8003229
has a*

>> No.8003241

>>>/v/

>> No.8003243

>>8003238
Not.

I played it and I didn't like it at all.
I will continue with my mabinogi, thanks.

>> No.8003246

I can't wait to play this with the /v/ people who like to pretend they're /jp/ people.

>> No.8003247

>>8003246
Oh no, we've been busted. Abort the operation.

>> No.8003277

So they're deleting that crappy first version made by Chinese and Korean devs?

Sounds good. Can't be any worse than SWTOR.

>> No.8003295

>>8003277
Yes blame the coreans and chinese, it's all their fault xD.

I thought you were better than this, Zunbar.

>> No.8003298

>>8003246
What I meant was that the development team which created the FF14 you probably played has been gone for ages. They were completely removed and a new team was set to work on it.

Of course, with this 2.0 announcement the new team might be setting themselves up to fail just as magnificently as the original FF14 team did. Nonetheless, they've been doing excellent work recently.

>> No.8003320

Now imagine the fun if it'll be another flop.

>> No.8003316

>>8003295
>Yes blame the [people responsible], it's all their fault xD.
...?

>> No.8003337

>>8003316
Forgot your trip?
Also, the dev the is/was Japanese.

Don't try convince me with jap natiolist shit, it won't flow.

>> No.8003338

>>8003320
Then Final Fantasy and Square-Enix are dead.

>> No.8003346

>>8003295
The environments were especially ass since it was all Chinese outsourced.

Many of the areas in FF14 were just copy pasted over and over, so I can see whey they're deleting it all.

>> No.8003353

Good. I think I'll keep not playing and just try to get into it again with the revamp. I really hope for the best. I loved FF11 for 7 years, I want to love this game too.

>> No.8003354

>>8003346
>since it was all Chinese outsourced.
Source?

>> No.8003360

japs make the worst mmo around and it's the koreans and chinese fault? get over yourselves. koreans make some of the best mmos which more people play than any jap crap mmo. chinese didn't fund it and make it. obviously japs were the ones who allowed the "chinese" to copy&paste. it's an obvious case that they just wanted to get the game out quickly and thought their name was enough to make it sell.

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>>8003354
Since hes getting his information from shitaku and wont fess up the source:http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/09/05/final-fantasy-xiv-nothing-but-copy-paste/

>> No.8003375

>>8003360
Nobody plays Korean MMOs except masochistic Koreans. The one Korean MMO I wanted to play because it had some kind of OP with a cute girl dancing to korean music shut down. Those assholes.

>> No.8003380

>>8003367
Don't accuse zunny bunny like that. Maybe someone else parroted sankakucomplex and he was mislead by that person? Maybe you did it yourself because you're jealous of him.

>> No.8003378

>>8003354
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=final+fantasy+14+Chinese+outsourced

>>8003367
That's sick trolling dude. SICK.

>> No.8003381

>>8003375
>Nobody plays Korean MMOs except masochistic Koreans.

Jap butthurt projection mode:
ON!

>> No.8003390

>>8003378
>Curiously, some users also noticed that “index finger” was written in Chinese (食指) rather than Japanese (人差し指) – a very odd oversight indeed, unless it somehow transpired that the game was actually developed in China.
Both are index finger, IN JAPAN.
Seriously, why are japs so butthurt?

>> No.8003421

>>8003390
食指 is not commonly used in Japan though.

>> No.8003423

the source that this is done by a chinese team was pure speculation done by people looking at the choice of kanji they used in the game? you know the developers of the game have their name all over it. it isn't a mystery. the entire team who designed ff14 got fired, but let's blame the mystery chinese programers who threatened the japs to accept their work.

>> No.8003430

>>8003423
Whatever you say, butthurt chinaman.

>> No.8003442

>>8003390
Chocobos also had the Chinese characters for "horse bird".

>> No.8003451

>>8003442
You mean kanji right?

>> No.8003456
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8003456

chinese have better taste than japs do in games. ff14 would be a good game if chinese or koreans made it. copy&paste is the signature move of japs.

>> No.8003463

It had the adventure feeling at first. Not knowing what to do, where to go, how so and so worked was simply magical. As was walking down LL during the night with calming music playing as I looked for some cooking supplies.

I just hope the revamp catches it. I guess I will have to sub even though I don't think the game is all that playable (I can't move after entering some buildings or NPC text doesn't come up but my Linkshell chat does.) There are supposedly events that will happen during the revamp that won't take place again and I want to experience those.

>> No.8003464

>>8003456
Yeah, those Chinese are constantly pumping out hit games.

>> No.8003468

>>8003464
No shit, since they made them all xD.

>> No.8003478

>>8003442
Except 鳥 isn't commonly used in China.

>> No.8003484

These threads really draw out the worst people that aren't of /jp/.

>> No.8003506

>>8003484
only worst people for the worst game

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on what server does /jp/ play?

>> No.8003673

>>8003661
none because /jp/ doesn't play shitty games
hahaha
but seriously though 14 is shit

>> No.8003686

>>8003661
Traibia or something like that.

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>>8003673
I got the game 2 days ago
and i am still confused what class to go.
I did try the class who is like the monk from FF11 , seems to be fun.

>> No.8003735

>>8003484
Most threads draw out the worst of /jp/.

>> No.8003811
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8003811

"Horsebirds!" they actually used complex characters to spell out Horsebirds! Incredulous. damn those chinese bastards. first they take over our US factories and now they're going after our japanese games. when will it end? the humanity!

also, my verification code had some sort of Jewish in it so I had to refresh. I don't speak jewish, so how should I know to write it?

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8003883

So wait, they've built a whole new engine? Why? As I understand, the problem with FFIV wasn't with a bad graphics engine- it was an unpolished content-free title that launched a year before it should have. There's no reason that I can see why they would waste months on reinventing the wheel instead of piling fixes onto what the game that already exists.

Then again Square does not know how to patch. pic related

>> No.8003907

>>8003883
There is an issue where they load parts of the world they don't need to, IE water under a building, a tree that's a 5 minute walk away. That bogs things down a bit on my end.

The concept screenshot looks like a vastly different game than what is out today. The "Beta" for 14 is now an alpha and the current game and revamp is pretty much a beta for this new game.

>> No.8003937 [DELETED] 

>>8003907
But you don't need to make a whole new engine to fix loading inefficient loading issues.

On further note, what is it with Japanese developers and rebuilding game engines? They tend to throw out and make a whole new engine for every game- unlike western devs who more often use already-existing engines. They don't utilize middleware and it's just inefficient.

>> No.8003941 [DELETED] 

>>8003907
But you don't need to make a whole new engine to fix loading inefficient loading issues.

On further note, what is it with Japanese developers and rebuilding game engines? They tend to throw out and make a whole new engine for every game- unlike western devs who more often use already-existing engines. They don't utilize middleware and it's just inefficient.

>> No.8003948

>>8003941
They could be making a new engine in the same sense Bethesda made a new engine for Skyrim. And my understanding of it was more to make the game work on the PS3 while maintaining visual quality they needed a 'new' engine.

>> No.8003976

>>8003937
No idea. I guess new engines are better than reusing the same one for 14 years.

>> No.8003973

The game engine was horrible in FF14. Everything felt laggy and unresponsive. The UI actually lags because it was designed for a console and not a mouse&key board. There is more to an engine then just the graphics. The combat was clunky and slow.

>> No.8004012

>>8003907
But you don't need to make a whole new engine to fix inefficient loading issues.

On further note, what is it with Japanese developers and rebuilding game engines? They tend to throw out and make a whole new engine for every game- unlike western devs who more often use already-existing engines. They're allergic to middleware or something.

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