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>> No.7977774
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Mokou with correct hair color thread?

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more like Mokou with the rightful proprietaries thread

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What the hell is wrong with that baka... - Lol!

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Isn't Mokou actually supposed to be rather... well, certainly not masculine in any way, but rather unfeminine?

>> No.7979592

That's up to character interpretation.

The pants are a sign of indifference however.

>> No.7979601
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The pants are a sign of nobility, and I largely see Mokou as gender neutral in behavior. She's very polite and helpful, hardly brash or gruff and tomboyish like Marissa. She holds on to a grudge and has a bad temper but isn't that very girlish in a way?

>> No.7979631
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Please don't start the pants argument, pants guy. I know that in every thread, you remind us that pants were a sign of nobility in feudal Japan or something, YES, but I believe many Mokou threads end like this, you sparking an argument about pants and how Mokou needs to be drawn with pants and how many artists make her look like a slut by drawing her without pants.

Please just... just leave that open for interpretation.

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Unfeminine personality, clearly; unfeminine proportions, uncertain.

On the one hand, you are correct that Mokou doesn't need to be drawn with pants all the time: they are a representation of her nobility, but it's not like it's the only thing she's able to wear. On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with how pants were brought up: someone claimed they were put in to show gender indifference, and the history of the pants was recalled to point out that gender has little to do with it. Feel free to criticize if it turns into "ALL PANTS ALL THE TIME," but don't preemptively call foul.

>> No.7979685

Mokou pants argument is boring.
Let's argue about Mokou pantsu instead.

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Was thinking more of how she's suggested to be kind of sinewy and stuff. Sort of like if she grew up and went through puberty, but it never quite brought her fully to either end.

Although as usual, with every woman (and occasional man) not specifically stated to be a loli, fanart tends to render her with massive mammaries.

>> No.7979714
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Mokou goes commando. Whenever she gets too dirty she just burns herself over and she rez's clean as a whistle!

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Fundoshi, Helly Hansen boxers, or spoils from panty raid at Eientei.

No, I don't have the source.

>> No.7979718

Not even lolis are safe.

Sure, we can say that pants were a sign of nobility in feudal Japan, but I don't think that matters. I see Mokou's pants as kind of a, "fuck you" to everybody else. "I like these, so I'm wearing them. Deal with it."

>> No.7979722

>Mokou goes commando
You want an answer to NOSKIRT?
There it is.

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>> No.7979732


Helen, you really ought to learn how to get past that sad panda.

>> No.7979733

A thousand year hate
Built on underwear

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Look at her pants


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Maybe she just punched some guy in the jaw and took them. She seems to go with that ends justify means.

>> No.7979746

Not another thread for this butch bitch.

>> No.7979748

She feels pain too you know.

Danmaku is enough to make her cry, just like every other Touhou.

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Mokou threads are the best threads

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>> No.7979757

Only a limited number of pants are allowed in Gensokyo.
Girls have to steal them if they want a pair.

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Mokou is a handsome woman.

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Shush. Mokou is a delicate flower.

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Dying is part of her daily routine. Although Tako exxagerates it. Slightly.

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She doesn't seem like she'd be very comfortable in a dress, really.

>> No.7979780

>Dying is part of her daily routine.

Says who?

Also, what are you trying to get to?

>> No.7979781
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Mokou must be lonely living out by herself for so many centuries. Why doesn't she live in the human village and make some friends, she's obviously not opposed to socializing since she attended Remilia's rocket party and whatnot.

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A fancy dress would just be a hindrance to her while she's out doing alpha things like raping other touhous and stealing their clothes.

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So that she could continue to not age and watch her new friends and family die from sickness and death or worse?
I guess she's just trying to protect herself from shit that she'll have to carry with her for centuries.

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Clearly these 'dresses' require further study before any conclusions can be drawn.

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Although 90% of the time stealing their clothes would just result in more dresses.

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Or she could just be a pyromaniac/psychopath who hates all life.

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She and Kaguya kill each other on a daily basis. It's almost routine. At least Kaguya injects some fresh air in it when she occasionally sends somebody to kill Mokou for her.

And not trying to get to anything, really. She dies a lot. That's about all there is to it.


Maybe not. She can wear whatever she likes, though.
If it doesn't suit her or turns out outright embarassing, she's just got to wait a century or so and there will be next to nobody left to remember it.

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How do I pants?

>> No.7979827

Except she'll help people who get lost

>> No.7979836
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>If it doesn't suit her or turns out outright embarassing, she's just got to wait a century or so and there will be next to nobody left to remember it.

>> No.7979842

>She can wear whatever she likes

That ''whatever'' will have to go with the overalls, she needs them for the fireproofness.

Also, they don't kill each other daily, Inaba and SSiB show that.

>> No.7979854

So does Tewi, yet she's always scamming and tricking everyone.

I think there was something in IN that said she was a loner by nature.

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As far as ancient immortals with everlasting family feuds and irrational grudges go, Mokou - for the lack of a better word - leads an exceptionally chilled and pleasant existance between her occasional outbursts.

Humans aren't meant to last forever, after all. Guess there's a limit to how long you can maintain peak anger.


Sachiko realised at the last moment it wasn't really Yumi, but she was far too embarassed to say anything and just played along.

>> No.7979872

I don't know why, but Mokou pics make me feel more confortable with loneliness for some time.

>> No.7979875
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Why does she just sprout cat ears randomly.

>> No.7979879

...Who doesn't?

>> No.7979885
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Overrated bitch. Keine was superior, but everyone overlooks her because of butchy here.

>> No.7979903

Eh, Mokou's her biggest reason for having images, without her she'd be just have teacher potential.

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Keine wouldn't want you to think that.

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Keine? Overlooked?
Did you by chance live in one of these for the last few years?

>> No.7979909

that pic have something...strange
its like a message where the message is the message itself

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Keine gets plenty arts

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Do non-abrahamitic religions even have something similar to heresy?

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So what if you toss Kaguya or Mokou in a volcano? I know they can regen from a single hair, but what if everything is destroyed utterly?

>> No.7979956

At least Mokou seems to be enjoying herself.

>> No.7979963

I like it best when Mokou and Keine are fucking each others brains out.

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Out of nowhere. The immortality associated with the hourai elixir is entirely metaphysical. They don't regenerate one body as much as recreate a body to inhabit.

>> No.7979971

Oh my.

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How can she call herself a health nut? She starves herself out of laziness. Instead of the curvy body she's usually given in fandom she probably has the body of keira knightly.

>> No.7980039

Not as much as Keine

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Kiera-that-actress-with-a-name-that-sounds-like-a-90's-pornstar could change her looks if she wanted.
Mokou doesn't have that option.

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I just want to touch Mokou's poofy pants. They seem like they'd be so fun to feel.

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Oxford bags?

>> No.7980079

It must be funny, never being able to die. Can you imagine the mental torment she must have gone through, and will continue to go through forever?

Maybe you shouldn't have murdered that poor guy and drank the elixir, silly girl. Hindsight 20/20.

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As always, a Mokou thread never goes without people trying to grimify things as much as possible for their own preferences in character terms.
Take it easy~

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Surprisingly, she seems to be doing just fine.

>> No.7980108

You're completely correct. That's just one take on her, and it's not really the right way to view her. I just find it interesting to think of what she "could" have gone through.

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She should be hired as Flan's food/playmate

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Not really doubting that Mokou (and to some lesser extent with her sheltered existance, Kaguya) have gone through some traumatic episodes in the past. Just right now in the present, there's nothing to hint that she's unhappy with life.

Guess unless there are other immortals around waiting to come out of hiding, things are going to get a bit lonely with only Kaguya around in case life as we know it eventually dies out. But apart from that, there isn't really any doom looming at the horizon either.

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Ah. Beheading intolerant immortals.

It seems to be such a common affliction, beheading intolerance. Fortunately Eirin made a cure for just such a thing.

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Ah. Romance and intimacy.

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Their relationship transcends love and hate.

>> No.7980179

I don't see why Mokou and Kaguya won't just call it quits with the whole killing each other thing. It's not like it'll solve anything.

>> No.7980185
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Mokou does it because she's pissed and lonely, Kaguya retaliates because she gets of on pissing off Mokou in addition to boredom.

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It gives them something to do that will last them a long time. Lots of long-lived touhous do it. Momiji and Nitori play leviathan-size shogi. Mokou and Kaguya need something a bit more time consuming.


Is it possible to articulate it fully without dipping more than your toes in the GRIMDARK pool?
I'd happily jump right in, but judging from the past posts /jp/ doesn't seem entirely in the mood for soaking every pore in the grim darkness of the far future tonight.

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Is it wrong that I fantasize about somehow ending up in the Bamboo Forest and then stumbling across Mokou and talk up a storm with her as she leads me to safety but then she gets attacked by Kaguya and I get in the way of an attack and "save" Mokou but end up wounded and then she takes me back to her house and nurses me back to health and eventually falls in love with me?

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Fantasies are fantasies.

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I could mention that Inaba shows that the ''killing each other'' is actually a mere childish grudge where they compete with each other in basically any activity (including fishing) and that they sort of apologized but I fear getting scolded by these people as it always happen.


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I like to imagine Kaguya and Mokou dying in each other's arms every day and having a few sincere words exchanged between them at the end of the day.

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Kaguya thinks it's funny.
Mokou doesn't go out of her way to fight Kaguya. In fact, she avoids the girl. She agrees that the feud is pointless.

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Mokou has an androgynous appearance. Neither like a boy or a girl. When you'd look at her, you'd have a hard time telling whether she's a girl or boy.
>>7979601 This guy's right, except about the part about the bad temper. Well, she's not exactly always polite either, she can speak aggresively sometimes like how she talked down to Aya in the interview when Aya suggested she started the fire.

But Mokou's gender and personality isn't even the appealing factor. If I could describe her in one word, I'd choose "elite".

Oh, and the pants look really cool. ZUN seems to be the only one who can draw them right. Everyone else makes her look like a clown and that really downs her.

>> No.7980273

Imagine you can't die and have had over a thousand years to kick around finding things to do. You and your rival have already played all the other games; they're not bad, but they've gotten kind of boring.

When you think about it like that, murder isn't that unusual of an idea.

What a ridiculous question. Of course it's not wrong to fantasize. In fact, it's arguably a pretty benign fantasy.

>> No.7980275

>Mokou doesn't go out of her way to fight Kaguya. In fact, she avoids the girl. She agrees that the feud is pointless.

That's only you making up an assumption, it's not stated clearly. The way Mokou speaks about it is actually a commonly used writing method, whereas normally one would keep such things to oneself, in this case, the character deliberately tells of what the aspect in question is about in order for the reader to know.

If anything, BAiJR shows that Mokou and Kaguya do battle each other, and they try to cover it even. Inaba shows as well.

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"stop hitting yourself stop hitting yourself"

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Posting more original charisma Mokou.

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>> No.7980282

> You and your rival have already played all the other games; they're not bad, but they've gotten kind of boring.

How so? They're just competitions based on pretty much anything that comes to mind, it's not something that bases itself on a schedule or an arrangement, it's spontaneous (?).

>When you think about it like that, murder isn't that unusual of an idea.

Being murdered could hurt you know? Besides, any conflict that involves physical battles is now solved with Danmaku.

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What's with the cell phone?

>> No.7980285


I never really considered inaba canon, mostly due to the fact that the atmosphere is so lighthearted and the fact that it was written by a different author, make it difficult to be taken seriously.
But BAiJR says she's reticent to herself when it comes to people she rescues from the bamboo forest. It doesn't say anything about assassins or people sent to kill her, so she may very well tell them that she can't die and that she hates Kaguya's attempts to kill her.

>> No.7980288

>Danmaku is the new murder
Well, danmaku hurts too. Losing hurts, in a different way. If you were in a body where there's no real consequence to physical pain, I might murder one of my friends as catharsis.

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Why aren't there more Mokou pictures with her like this?

With the Phoenix pulsing behind her as she's sitting back in her protected singularity (she's immortal), with her legs crossed like so. I think the way she does it is really cool. I've never seen a person even drawing the Phoenix correctly, let alone a tribute to this.

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>> No.7980297

>I never considered

And? Does that make a difference?

Also, if you haven't noticed, all of Touhou is light-hearted, it's the fans that make it dark and grim just to squeeze the characters, not that it's bad to use imagination but it's annoying when they try to mix it with canon.

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>> No.7980301


>all of Touhou is lighthearted

You haven't read CiaLR or SSiB, have you.

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this one's alright

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This one's pretty close too. It's like a nearly perfected representation of ZUNart, all that's off are the shape of the pants a little bit, and the fabric of them.

>> No.7980313

Still light-hearted.

I know you people like to emphatize on the bits here and there just like TVTropers with their fridge logic, but you have to let go of it. Touhou is a series where even death is seen as a matter of laughter, no matter how horrid the event that may happen to someone is, that character will always be open for some a nice, classic, tea party.

>> No.7980319

What exactly is grim about SSiB? Yukari's grand evil scheme was to steal something from the moon princesses.

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>> No.7980336


Oh yeah, like living 100 years in fright, 300 years in slaughter, 300 years in boredom, 300 more years in slaughter, and 300 more years of boredom isn't lighthearted.
Not to mention, her pondering in regret for killing Ikahasa and seeing the top of the volcano bloodied because the men got greedy and killed each other trying to steal the elixir for themselves.

All that, plus, she was remembering all this on a full moon on a very cold night, where she didn't even choose to warm herself up. Yeah, very lighthearted.

Stop trying to play psychology and telling me to let things go when you're obviously being delusional. It's pissing me off.

>> No.7980337

Well ZUN said that all of Touhou's story is a joke, and it shows.

He also said in PCB that no matter the harshness of the dialogue, the girls will always be playing friendly.

>> No.7980342
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Mokou's theme tells a story with emotions the melody leaves impressions with.

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>> No.7980354

Calm down now, clear those feelings of yours, you're getting nowhere saying that just so you know. You're thinking that the events that happened are to be deemed somehow ''grim'', the point is, those events have zero value, it's the result that matters, and Mokou shows.

Here's another example, Yuyuko. She had a story that some would consider tragic, the result? Laughs and parties in the afterlife.

You may think by yourself whatever you like, just don't force it on others.

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Who's posting the yuri? Mokou detests the girl.

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She's the most depressing touhou but also the nicest. I wonder if there's a correlation between those, perhaps we should juxtapose that with the bitchiness but relative happiness or indifference of the other touhous.

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That doesn't mean anything and you know it.

>> No.7980373

>Mokou detests the girl.
You can still have sex with people you hate. Friction is friction, and catharsis is catharsis.

I know, I know, "get out of /jp/, you don't belong here, et cetera ad infinitum et ad nauseum."

>> No.7980374

This is why some Mokou fans are so pissy, they can't accept that their character isn't an extreme grim portrayal of loneliness and suffering and etc.

It doesn't matter how many intestines you may have savaged in the past, if you're considered a joke nowadays along with every other character, it matters only for the fanon to explode in imagination, not that it's bad, but avoid tinkering with it too much when speaking about what things really are.

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The hell?

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>> No.7980389


I'm not forcing anything. By the way, the same could be said about you, about the >not getting yourself anywhere bit.
By the way, Yuyuko is a ghost. Ghosts are not like humans, they think strangely. And she forgot all of her events of her life, so of course she'd be happy either way.
Mokou on the other hand has it just the opposite, every bit of what happened matters. Mokou also had what could be considered a tragic life. What result do you see? Well, she's a forest guide. But she's still ultimately an exile and always has to cope with remembering the things that happened in her life that she's guilty of, as she said in CiaLR. She even said "The terror of immortality is eternal solitude, and endless reality tormented by the consciousness of one's sins..." At the very least, it has deeper meaning than your superficial tea party ending.
Haters will hate.

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Mokou's relatively complex as a character, doesn't it make sense for a character like that to have so many interpretations?

>> No.7980397


Where'd you get that from?

>> No.7980400


What's that supposed to mean?

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Granted there's little physical difference, they'd first need to approach each other naked without one killing the other. I could see a necrophilia-like (though closer to teabagging) rape of the corpse, but mutual sex? Maybe if each was oblivious the the other's identity during the deed.

>> No.7980410

She makes it her job to help lost humans and protect them. She's also happy simply listening to others.

>> No.7980413

I don't see how ''complex'' she or any Touhous are really, unless you use the element of enigma, in which Yukari is the queen, but that's kind of cheating.

It matters not if a character has a billion interpretations, it's whether or not you try to force it down others or just plain stating it it's the real, authentic one.

>> No.7980427

If she were the nicest, she wouldn't have any kind of grudge against Kaguya nor commit fights with her. Maybe she just has repressed feelings, but don't go ahead and outright state things with such absurd certaintity.

>She's also happy simply listening to others.


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From what I've read, she does it because she doesn't want to stumble across some lost villager's corpse and stuff.
Sure, she'll listen to problems too, but I don't think it's because she particularly want to help. I'd imagine she'd be more on the 'giving penny for thoughts' type advice. But then again, she rarely even speaks to the people she rescues.
I wonder, is she trying to reconcile her sin of those slaughter days by rescuing people now? Or is she just in a good mood? Maybe she just doesn't have anything better to do.

>> No.7980451


>I don't see the complexity

You don't like looking deeply into things, do you?

>> No.7980455

I mean I don't have to force anything, I'm far too lazy to do such a thing. Just reading all the canon about her and what she says shows a strange journey with her doing bad things in her past and good things in the present. I mean she's not the most interesting touhou, and she'd probably be boring to talk to, but she's relatively complex and I respect that. Also, opinions.

>> No.7980458

>without killing each other

They can't anymore, same as with some Touhous (like Flandre) manual descriptions, they speak of a common recurrence of the past pre-draft. They can still cause havoc with danmaku though.

>> No.7980460

cool. I like pictures like this.
post another

>> No.7980466

After a particularly intense contest, I can imagine the winner getting to use the strap-on.

Sometimes it's fun to play for nothing except the thrill of winning, but sometimes it's nice to have some skin in the game, too. So to speak.

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This one always gave me that "Imperishable Night Extra" enigma. Don't know why, though.

>> No.7980472

You're pretty much saying that you like to make emphasis on everything and try to squeeze the grim out of it, you're no different from those at TVTropes.

As said before, it's not that overthinking things is bad, it's trying to force it into facts that bothers people.

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I see the complexity as her not having any clear MO. She hates Kaguya, but doesn't make it her life's work to torment her. She holds the desire to be a normal human again, but acknowledges that returning to normalcy is impossible. She was nobility and is now immortal, but shows no desire to use her lineage or powers for personal gain. She's a self-made outcast, isolating herself - possibly in penance for past sins, possibly to avoid unnecessary casualties, possibly because she doesn't want to think of herself as "normal" - to spend time meditating in the forest. That's a far shot from the usual go-get-em Gensokyo girls.

>I can imagine the winner getting to use the strap-on
"Yoooou lost! Now I'll just put this on an-"
"HA! Blew your head clean off! So long, sucker!"

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Threads about any other touhou will be a circlejerk, Mokou threads always go sour. Being Mokou is suffering.

>> No.7980492


Don't compare me to those. I see things for what they are and nothing more. But what pisses me off are incompetent people who don't like to see the full depth of things.
Mokou has a bit of grim, yes. But it's not nearly as much for her to be GRIMDARK or anything. Yuyuko, too. Flandre to an extent (she was locked up in the basement, but she's kind of insane so she wasn't sad about it). Anyway, I don't make my opinions facts. As I said earlier, I look deeply into things and reveal things I find to expose what they represent and who the characters really are.

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>She holds the desire to be a normal human again,

Now this is something I'm trying to clear up. Is that really true? Maybe it used to be, but I could imagine that now she's learned to actually enjoy it, and prefer her solitary life in bliss. Look at her official profile.
>These are wonderful days. Gensokyo is truly a paradise! And she's alive to enjoy it.. how magnificent!
I don't know. Maybe she has strong emotions toward her past, but I don't think she particularly wants to be normal. Rather, maybe she's learned to enjoy this life, maybe so much that she even prefers it. That may very well explain why she doesn't socialize.

>> No.7980522


its because she's an extra boss and is insanely powerul and has an overwhelming advantage too
like that one guy called her "elite", that's the word. and nostalgic too

>> No.7980524

>I don't make my opinions facts.
>As I said earlier, I look deeply into things and reveal things I find to expose what they represent and who the characters really are.

You just contradicted yourself.

What you ''look deeply into things'' is just your opinion and interpretation about a certain aspect, in which case, you're grimifying things to your preference, I see this in TVTropes all the time, although you're nowhere near as grave as them I tell you.

>> No.7980528

How is she insanely powerful? Because she's an EX-Boss? That only qualifies for danmaku skills you know.

Immortality =/= Power

Even Remilia is dissapointed at her lack of fight.

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Keep in mind the full context of the quote:
>Mokou still detests Kaguya, and Kaguya still tries to kill her, but neither of them can die forever. These are wonderful days... This broken place is truly a paradise! And she is alive to enjoy it, how magnificent!
I'm very certain it's sarcasm.

>> No.7980548


I don't think you interpreted my statement of "looking deeply into things" correctly.
By that, I meant obsorbing every bit of official information on the topic. And after that, draw a conclusion from the given information that agrees with and compliments on the official stuff.

For example,
CIALR, Yukari says that shikigami are to her as computers are to the people in the outside world. She also says, that even though Ran can do mathematical calculations very quickly and efficiently, she can't really think on her own. By contrast, I bring the conclusion that Ran is a tool for Yukari just like computers are to us. Computers can't make decisions on their own.

You cannot say I am contridicting myself with this sort of concept. I am merely making things to surface by constructing a hypothesis that compliments with official profiles.

>> No.7980552


Why is that?
Is it so hard to believe? What if it's actually true?

inb4 fiction

>> No.7980557


Remilia doubleteamed Mokou with Sakuya.

>> No.7980581


Didn't it say that shikigami are only as powerful as their masters somewhere, too? That's a good compliment, actually, because the things that computers can do are only as good as the people who use them.

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The phrasing in the original text rings of excessive dramatization.

Were I to offer a more literal translation:
>My, what fulfilling days, isn't it? This lonely valley land - in truth it is the land of paradise, I'm sure. To be alive; my, what a wonderful thing, isn't it?

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The phrasing in the original text rings of excessive dramatization.

Were I to offer a more literal translation:
>My, what fulfilling days, isn't it? This lonely valley land - in truth it is the land of paradise, I'm sure. To be alive; my, what a wonderful thing, isn't it?

>> No.7980748

geez...my Mokofolder is gonna explode with all those new pics

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I want to wash Mokou

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Forever together ;_;

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Modern immortal girls

>> No.7980895


1300 years of experience

Remilia's just cocky after they win. Even Sakuya told her to stop taunting her after they double-teamed her. "I've had enough, my lady...
Please don't taunt this human that can't die. "

>> No.7980925

That doesn't mean anything, she still _considers_ her weak, compared to others.

>> No.7981023


When does she say in comparison to others? In particular, what others? Remilia is too prideful to ever get an accurate estimation on another characters strength. Youmu even says the same thing as Sakuya, Mokou loses the fights in IN because they are 2v1

>> No.7981048


So you're saying she'd have won if they were one-on-one? You know very well that wouldn't be the case because everyone has the same chance at beating one another in spellcard duels.

She calls her weak and is dissapointed that she does not live up to the ''impossible task'' that Kaguya mentioned. She doesn't call others like that albeit mocking them in other ways.

Point being, Mokou's not exactly a powerful EX boss, not like she would have any kind of mention towards it anyway.

>> No.7981141

>Mokou is not a powerful EX boss because remilia said so

>even though Sakuya and Youmu agree that Mokou lost because it was 2v1

I don't think so, Tim.
She may have lost, but she's still incredibly powerful.

>> No.7981872

Why are Mokou threads always so fucking gay?

>> No.7981879


If you dislike them so much why bump it to the front page 8 hours later?

>> No.7981880

>she's still incredibly powerful.

Says who? You?

We can't know anything about her or most Touhous' actual power due to the draft, we can only speculate.

Look at Yuka, she has the mere power to manipulate flowers yet she's one of the strongest.

>> No.7981881

Because I want all you people who post in these threads to see it so maybe we will get GOOD Mokou threads for a change.

Now fuck off, troll.

>> No.7981883

that's not how trolling works, sweetie

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