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If you have a yandere, would having sex with her calm her down and reassure her that you love her?

If so wouldn't you be able to "tame" a yandere into a normal person by frequent love making?

>> No.7972164

Yandere is a mental condition, those can be pacified but can not be weeded out. Besides, you're really talking a razor's edge here, you don't even have to make a mistake for her to suddenly become obsessed with the thought that you are straying from her and only her.

>> No.7972170

>>7972164
Fictional mental condition, I might add.

>> No.7972175

>>7972170
Not neccesarily.
When I am in love I am so obsessive that I have to deal with constant fear of losing my lover and suicide thoughts.
I know people who are even more obsessive though

>> No.7972184

>>7972175
I can see that happening, I've seen people do and say weird things because of that. What I mean is the possessive sort, the ones that run off anyone else in your life regardless of their relation, and of course the classic example that kill you and do any one of a million things with your remains

>> No.7972204

No, you'd only make it worse.

>> No.7972209

It really depends on the yandere. Some yanderes can appear perfectly socially adjusted and only show her yan side when there's a genuine threat to your relationship with her. Others are exceptionally resistant to getting tamed. You might let her have sex with you, hoping it will calm her down and make her easier to deal with, only to wake up the next morning to hear her talking about your wedding plans, since she thinks having sex together means that you've promised to stay together for the rest of your lives.

>> No.7972248

without the ability to tame the yandere or tsundere, then the thrill of the hunt is instantly gone. then that means they're shit

>> No.7972262
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>>7972184
Never seen such a person IRL, but doesn't sounds impossible.
There are varying degrees of yandere I guess

>> No.7972263
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7972263

You probably couldn't sex a yandere enough for her to be content. You'd probably just encourage her.

>> No.7972265

I think if it's a yandere then withholding sex might work better.

In fact positive/negative reinforcement using sex might work well enough. Simply fuck her on days she acts nice and don't on days she doesn't.

Mingled well with the neighbors? That got you horny.

Stabbed somebody? Blood's a turnoff for you so you can't get it up.

You can't really reassure a yandere I'd say. They usually have a reason for being insane, intense obsession and paranoia of losing said obsession being them usually. You can teach them what you like and what you dislike though.

>> No.7972267

I wonder how life would be like with a yandere.
It's not like I interact with other women anyway.
I wonder if she could ge tjealous of vidya characters.

>> No.7972282

>>7972267
Normal women get jealous of video and anime characters. That's why they make you throw out figs, delete porn, etc.

>> No.7972284

>>7972248
You just have shitty tastes. If anything, it's boring if everything can just reach a perfect equilibrium where everyone are happy and there's not a concern in the world.

But since you bring up tsundere, I think the main thing you're concerned about is stagnation. Too often these characters are allowed to go through the whole storyline without anything getting settling. Most prevalent example of this is when they use the exact same "oh look the tsundere got embarrassed and responded by turning physically violent" throughout the whole story, either never getting to her softer side, or never committing to it once they get to it. But this is an example of shitty writing, not a fault of the archetypes.

>> No.7972285

>>7972265
>withholding sex
That's not how yandere works, and if you don't enjoy the trembling fear and her forcing herself unto you it's not for you anyway.

>> No.7972304

>>7972265
>withholding sex
Poor anon, trying so hard to hold himself back~ Don't worry, darling, I know it's hard for you, but from now on, I'll take responsibility. You can just sit back and relax while I take care of everything, and since you can't resist or escape, you can be completely guilt-free for enjoying yourself!

>> No.7972314

>>7972284
It has nothing to do with equilibrium.

It's all about domination and breaking her will and spirit.

To tell people they have "shit taste" when you do not even know such elementary fetishes, shows the pretentious front you're trying to put up.

>> No.7972327

>>7972314
Of course I'm aware of the fetish. I just preferred to assume you weren't such an osubuta that you would base all your preference on one single sexual fetish.

I'm not fond of talking to people who take pride in how limited their tastes are.

>> No.7972330

>>7972304
This is my fetish.
I want a yandere.
And if she kills me, well, life sucks anyway.

>> No.7972337

"hear her talking about your wedding plans, since she thinks having sex together means that you've promised to stay together for the rest of your lives"
That was what I was trying to get at though. If you've decided to settle down with a yandere you will need some way of keeping her crazy in check.

>> No.7972342

No, you cant. I wish I had a yandere lover ;_;

>> No.7972345

>>7972342
Is a guy allright too?

>> No.7972355

You guys should read Koharu no Hibi.

>> No.7972386

>>7972345
Very.

>> No.7972390

>>7972386
How about you email me and we discuss this further?

>> No.7972404

If you date yandere, you should make constant demands, so she feels she is usefull to you.

Sex can be one of those demands. It might be interesting trying to push boundaries knowing, she will try to prove her love by doing things.

>> No.7972409

I wish I could pretend that the prevalence of faceless men in all this is explained by an artists lack of confidence in drawing a decently attractive male appearance. but no. This is a stupid pet peeve, though.

>> No.7972422

>>7972390
Noooo, don't take him from me ;_;

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>>7972262
The two opposite extremes are the only ones that arouse me.

I guess that makes me a masochist, which also makes me beta as fuck and means it'll never happen to begin with.

>> No.7972442

>>7972263
source?

>> No.7972449

>>7972442
http://www.fakku.net/manga.php?artist=Kirintei

The Tsukasa valentine one

>> No.7972450

>>7972449
thank you

>> No.7972477

>>7972170

Not so fictional, sadly. The only girlfriend I'd ever had, the girl I lost my virginity to - tried to stab me AND another girl because we were talking in our highschool cafeteria.

Apparently she'd thought I was cheating on her for a long time with this girl. She was arrested, got put in a locked school for a couple weeks and was given a restraining order.

Honestly I miss her. Pure devotion is... amazing (until it tries to stab you).

>> No.7972494

>>7972477
Serves you right cheating bastard

>> No.7972493

>>7972477
how can you say you love her if you can't take her knife in you?
seriously though, i wish i had an obsessed girlfriend, after all i don't talk to girls at all so she wouldn't be jealous of anyone

>> No.7972501

>>7972477
Is it bad that I'm jealous of you?
I wish someone loved me so much they're ready to stab someone.
And if I get stabbed, eh shit happens.

>> No.7972515

>>7972501
To be fair, her stabbing me was somewhat accidental. I tried to stop her from stabbing the other girl. She didn't really "stab" me so much as give me a good cut across the arm, never actually got the other girl since I was holding on to her at that point.

Took a good twenty minutes of holding her while blood poured out of my arm before she'd stand down, other girl'd ran off in that time. Finally managed to convince her we'd never done anything but talk, so she starts laughing at herself for overreacting - right about the time the police show up.

So here I am, blood pouring out of my arm, soaking the front of her clothes and there's a knife in her hand while she's sitting there giggling. You can imagine what a wonderful picture that was.

>> No.7972536

>>7972477
That's interesting, usually people just say that it's not appealing in 3D at all.

Though it's not like this proves 3D is worthwhile. But I wouldn't mind if an extremely devoted 3D girl tried proving herself to me. Well, I'm a Romantic, so longing and unresolved tension is more exciting to me than the idea of a healthy, stable relationship.

>> No.7972547

Yandere would be perfect for me.
She would provide for me, I could take it easy all day in my room and get tender sex with cuddling whenever I wanted.

>> No.7972551

I've dealt with a passive aggressive yandere. I once got pissed at her and walked away. She then retaliated by self harming herself and rallying al of her friends and relatives against me. I've got a phone call by her father telling me that her daughter was in a hospital and asking what the hell I did to her. Of course nothing of what she did to herself was life-threatening in any way, she just did it to punish me. And it worked pretty well...
Crazy shit...

>> No.7972552

I honestly hope you guys don't really believe this guy's story.

>> No.7972559

>>7972552
I wouldn't really be surprised if that was true though. People out there are totally crazy.

>> No.7972563

>>7972552
This is the usual /jp/ delusion, people believe a girl is stalking them just because they happen to walk the same way home from school, and it takes nothing much more for a bored lonely person to keep warping and attaching things to it until its some terrifying story of maniacal obsession over themselves.

You know what obsessive yandere is? Its the otaku delusion that they will be able to get a girl and all that good stuff just for them with out any courting or effort on their own part.

>> No.7972571

>>7972563
If that was true then the "childhood friend whom you've promised to marry when you were a kid and pops out of from nowhere suddenly acting as if she was your girlfriend and promised wife" would work a lot better.

A yandere is more than that. It's for masochist people who gets a boost in their arousal by feeling threatened.

>> No.7972578

>>7972571
Its for submissives, the osanajimi archetype would still expect reciprocation and most otaku don't have someone like that to speak of anyways.

>> No.7972592
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3DPD...
...
...
...

>> No.7972599

>>7972592
Kill yourself out of /x/

>> No.7972606

>>7972436
I know that feel.

But I do prefer the Tsun- side more.

I want to have my back tenderly whipped~

>> No.7972605

>>7972599
Got the pic from /k/.

>> No.7972612

>>7972592
what the fuck am i looking at

>> No.7972616

are moe gimmick cafes still popular in japan? because i still think my idea for a yandere cafe is money

the waitress could be all wide eyed and manic when she talks to you, and she would come by your table every 30 seconds to check on you and refill your coffee and shit. look closely and you will notice her staring at you from across the room or stalking you on the way to the bathroom. when you ask for your check so you can leave her she panics, throws hot coffee in your eyes and stabs everyone else at your table with a fork

fucking money i tell you

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>>7972616

>> No.7972684
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>>7972616
It should be a couple's cafe.
As in you bring your girlfriend there.

You can have the maid spill boiling coffee on your girlfriend, screw up her order, give her mean glares and not even talk to her or finish taking her order, and then attack her when you guys are leaving.
She will also give you the Yandere stare when you first walk in
>"W-Who is she...?"
>"You'd never bring another girl to our cafe, right?"

Maybe have her molest you in the bathroom too.

But then again
>girlfriend
Maybe a fake girlfriend will be part of the cafe and one will be provided for you.
And then have them fight for your amusement.

>> No.7972713

>>7972563
Why do some people feel such a need to associate other people's taste in 2D girls with personal character flaws? It kinda pisses me off. Sure, one of the appeals of a yandere is the idea of a girl who loves you so deeply that you don't even have to actively romance her. And what exactly is wrong with having that fantasy? The only thing that could possibly be problematic about it is that you can't expect it to happen in real life, but no one is fucking asking for that. The whole argument is based on the assumption that our tastes are ultimately something we wish we could get out of real life, which is false. I get the feeling that >>7972563 is some smug normalfag who thinks there's something noble and refined about liking realistic girls. Or some butthurt femanon who doesn't like that we yearn for things the 3D world can't offer.

Besides that, generalizing archetypes should be a crime in itself. There are hundreds of ways to do a yandere character, and dozens of appeals to draw upon. The aggressiveness appeal is just one of them. You could just as easily create a yandere character who is completely passive, since passiveness can be developed into dependence, which gives her a good reason to fear anything that might threaten your relationship.

>> No.7972722

>>7972713
No, I fantasize about things all the time, I do however avoid making up stories as if those fantasies were real, because people are supposed to grow out of that when they're 16, and I mean the lying part, if you make stories meant as stories, then that's just fine

>> No.7972735
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7972735

I'm told that I'm kind of yandere-ish...glad that at least not everyone would leave me.

Unfortuately, my love interest doesn't like this so much.

How could I stop being a yandere, being jealous, etc...?

>> No.7972740

>>7972722
That's even sillier. You're treating it as a fact that his story is false, based solely on your own inability to accept that it might be true. Not to mention is makes absolutely no difference whether it's true, it's not like we're getting trolled by humoring him and talking about it as if it's true.

>> No.7972742

Yandere exists. That's why there are things like restraining orders.

>> No.7972749

>>7972722
Aren't you taking an anonymous imageboard a bit too seriously?

>> No.7972781

>>7972722
>My fantasies are only for MATURE people such as myself.
Get back to /a/.

>> No.7972782

>>7972722
Could you do me a favor, and use more commas in your sentences, instead of breaking them up with periods, as it would be a shame if you communicated things coherently,

>> No.7972783

>>7972735
Erotomania is a mental cpondition just like any other. Either you put in the conscious effort to suppress it or get medicated to stop it.

>> No.7972788

>>7972781
What nonsense are you vomiting, go make up more stories about yanderes to make yourself more edgycoolawesome

>> No.7972790

>>7972742
lawfag here.
restraining orders for familial issues are not as
common as what restraining orders were meant for.

the purpose of a restraining order is to prevent
a person from doing something. Plus restraining
orders are simple and temporary, as it takes time
to process cases, there is a more permanent solution.

please stop using law terms if you dont fully
understand their meaning and purpose. it is unsightly
and disgustingly distasteful to read.

>> No.7972797
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>>7972783
I understand I need to repress it, but how?
What are some steps I can take...?

>> No.7972812

>>7972184
You're quite wrong on that account. Buddy of mine got married out of high school since he got a girl pregnant. After they were married, she went through his phone and facebook and told all of his ex-girlfriends (and any female friends that weren't her friends) that he had joined the army and deleted them.

Now she didn't kill him, thankfully, but that's a yandere if I've ever seen one.

>> No.7972816

I feel that this thread is starting to go in the wrong direction

>> No.7972820

>>7972816
I wish I could find a sanctuary of purified souls where we could all discuss 2D girls in peace without anyone even thinking about 3D girls or how our topics of discussion might relate to the real world.

>> No.7972885

>>7972816
This is what happens when we have /soc/ in /jp/. /jp/ will never be the same again.

>> No.7973526

>>7972684
i like the fake girlfriend idea, it could make it like one of those interactive dinner theater deals except the murders would happen at the end instead of the beginning

i think we need to go into business

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>>7972684
>>7972616

>> No.7974148

The bad thing about real life yandere's is that they can actually get over you extremely fast. Anyone who befriends or falls in love super quick with someone, even to the point of obsession, can also leave that person very very quickly.

There's no worse feeling than getting emotionally NTR'd by a yandere girl who shuts you out for no reason for another person and pretends they never knew you.

>> No.7974160

>>7974148
That's not true yandere, then.

In fact, I'd say that 3D can't be yandere at all. Yandere refers to a 2D fictional archetype. 3D can resemble it in some aspects, but never truly be yandere.

>> No.7974224

>>7974148
Sounds more like a shitty experience you had than real yandere.

>> No.7974246

have you ever played Cross Channel?

>> No.7975475

>>7972282
damn, now i understand you're completely right i have a lot of draws and like 90% of them are women, and all my female friends tends to complain saying things like: 'why only women?, 'why all of them have long air you dont like short hair?', 'why you draw the boobs larger?' kinda funny... and interesting

>> No.7975630

Are there any cases of a yandere being jealous of a protagonist's relationship with him/herself in a genderbender?

>> No.7977136
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What if you have a moe moe daughter with a yandere? Would she become yan from watching you playing with the daughter?

>> No.7977140

I want to see a story with two yandere heroines on the protagonist.

That won't last long

>> No.7977141

>>7977140
Why stop at two? Why not a yandere harem game?

>> No.7977143

>>7977141
No good ends

>> No.7977163

I expected a rare and nice 2D yandere thread and this is what I get? Fuck you /jp/, I'm out to fap to eroge.

>> No.7977301

In a manner of speaking, the element fluorine is the ultimate avatar of yandere-dom — elemental fluorine is one of the most difficult chemicals in the world to handle properly because it reacts quickly and violently to almost everything except some metals — it will happily consume even the most invisible quantities of water and eat straight through glass as hydrofluoric acid. (Incredibly, certain fluorine compounds — hydrofluoric acid and chlorine trifluoride in particular — are even nastier than the element itself.) As a result, it will bond to almost any other element and absolutely will not let go without some serious chemical prodding... which is why your dentist wants you to use it for stronger teeth. (It also bonded with a good number of 19th century chemists trying to isolate it, who are now remembered as the "Fluorine Martyrs".) In other words, fluorine's yandereness is what makes it ideal for creating nonreactive substances like Teflon and non-polluting refrigerants, as well as a number of oddball uses in medical chemistry. That roll of Teflon sealing tape in your toolbox? Nearly 80% fluorine by weight... and, chemically, possibly the single safest thing in your house.

>> No.7977516

>>7972812
When my older brother started dating his current wife, he was forced to cut relations with any of his childhood friends. A couple of years later, there was this girl who liked him and was trying to date him, love letters and all of that crap, and his girlfriend found out about it. It wasn't a pretty thing to see.

>> No.7977527

>>7972436
You're right that it'll never happen, but that's because you're obsessed with this "alpha/beta" shit that doesn't exist.

>> No.7977559

>>7972263
Thisismyfetish.png

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>>7972592
...Why do I get so hard from this pic?

Also, that look in her eyes, it's almost adorable really, especially in the last frame.

>> No.7977575

>>7972592
seems like a good way to get all kinds of horrible infections

>> No.7977588

>>7977564
I'm just not seeing it.

>> No.7977607

>>7977564
I just get hungry.

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