/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

>/jp/

[Anonymous No.]

Makes me think how /g/ took steves death. I bet they are just whooping it up. I wouldn't know though since I rarely go there :(

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Who is Stall Man talking about?

Or is this one of those philosophical things where he's like talking about his past self or something.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>7970935
he is dalking about stebe jonis

[Anonymous No.]

I respect a man who don't beat around the bush.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970935
http://gizmodo.com/5847906/strange-misguided-man-glad-steve-jobs-has-died

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970952
That's one damn stupid article.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7970952
Got a good laugh from that article title.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970952
>fag sells overpriced existing technology to hipsters
>hailed as a visionary genius

Fuck society.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet Stallman is around us.
Wait, does 4chan run on free software?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970971
Who are you quoting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970952
And the comments are even worse.

[Anonymous No.]

Jobs was a businessman, not an inventor.

Shame he died before his overpriced company flipped like Enron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970980
The article, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970979
http://4chanarchive.org/brchive/dspl_thread.php5?thread_id=7396352&x=Richard+Stallman+hates+g

[Anonymous No.]

I'd јust like tο interјect fοr a mοment. Wһat yοu're referring tο as /g/, is in fact, 4chan//g/, οr as I've recently taken tο calling it, 4chan plus /g/. /g/ is nοt an board untο itself, but ratһer anοtһer free cοmpοnent οf a fully functiοning 4chan system made useful by tһe 4chan boards, posters and administration cοmprising a full *chan as defined by 2ch.

Many cοmputer users run a mοdified versiοn οf tһe 4chan system every day, witһοut realizing it. Tһrοugһ a peculiar turn οf events, tһe versiοn οf 4chan wһicһ is widely used tοday is οften called "/g/", and many οf its users are nοt aware tһat it is basically tһe 4chan system, develοped by tһe 4chan Prοјect.

There really is a /g/, and tһese people are using it, but it is јust a part οf tһe system they use. /g/ is tһe board: tһe program in tһe system that discusses the desktops of other boards. The desktop threads are an essential part οf an imageboard, but useless by itself; it can οnly functiοn in tһe cοntext οf a cοmplete *chan. /g/ is nοrmally used in cοmbinatiοn witһ tһe 4chan network: tһe wһοle system is basically 4chan witһ /g/ added, οr 4chan//g/. All tһe sο-called "/g/" distributiοns are really distributiοns οf 4chan//g/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970979
It runs on stolen software if that counts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970993
SHUT UP
FOR ONE WEEK FOLLOWING HIS DEATH HE MUST BE REFERRED TO AS AN "INVENTOR" AND A "DESIGNER"

[Anonymous No.]

I can somewhat imagine, and sympathize with the situation at /g/ now. There must be hordes of uninformed people going around making exaggerated praises like "visionary genius". At least that's what's going on in my university.

Oh well, I guess the mass have a tendency to express their uneducated opinions vocally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7970993
Completely wrong. Steve got rich bringing the personal computer to the masses. Steve Jobs made that happen in conjunction with Woz's engineering skills..and that, my friend, makes you a visionary genius.

(Notice I said first to the masses and not strictly the first PC).

"the masses" were the liberal arts and non-computer people who wouldn't have touched a computer with a 10 foot pole before the Mac came out. before the mac you had to be pretty geeky to use a computer. command line interfaces were pretty intimidating for the rank and file non-programmers.

the mac delivered a vision of computing that appealed to non-number crunchers - of computers that could display hundreds of fonts, and pictures, and movies (even if it was B&W postage stamp size), that let you design and create things without being a professional designer/architect/programmer.

THAT is the 'masses' who Apple brought computing to.

Argue all you want about overpricing, but how many PCs do you think would have been sold if a standard GUI interface (as popularized by the Mac) hadn't caught on and Windows hadn't raced (though it took them 10 years) to get close to catching up with their own GUI?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7971024
About as many as there have been already. Someone will always exploit a gap in the market.

[Anonymous No.]

jobs is a visionary genius
he showed the computing industry that you can sell last generation's technology at twice the price if you acted like god's messenger

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[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>7971016
>>7971024
Another laugh from this thread?!

[The Buttranger No.]

NO FUN ALLOWED

[Anonymous No.]

Is it true that Stallman is a furry?

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody would have invented the GUI without Steve Jobs.

It takes one in a billion to come up with an idea like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7971039,3
So there was a possibility of5 other people that could of invented it.

[Kuroko spammer No.]

>>7971024

Steve Jobs deserves all the praise he gets. While he didn't invent the technology behind Apple's products, he certainly had a hand in making them something that anyone can use. And that's a good thing. Stallman may be a genius, but his inventions never gain traction because there simply aren't enough people willing to spend the time to build, complie, and maintain a PC around to have any significance.

Remember that not anyone can be a genius, but that a genius can come from anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7971039,5

That's stupid though. That's like saying Einstein wasn't important because practically nobody really understands the theory of relativity. I don't care what the moronic average Joe might think of an invention, if it's amazing, it's amazing regardless of how convoluted and hard it might be to understand. I guess I'm not even trying to argue with you or anything, I'm just saying I'm tired of stupid people praising Jobs as the best inventor of all time when all he really did was make overpriced technology accessible to the point where even barely functional retards could use it easily.

[Anonymous No.]

The only one that really deserves praise is Bill Gates. Steve Jobs didn't do shit. You're a fucking clown if you think that computers wouldn't have developed the same way without him.

[Anoymous No.]

Death can over-glorify one's achievements. Remember Michael Jackson?

I guess even in death Jobs managed to pull one last marketing stunt, instead this one isn't about his shiny overpriced products, but his entire life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7971039,8

>Michael Jackson
>over-glorified

sion.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

http://gawker.com/5847344/what-everyone-is-too-polite-to-say-about-steve-jobs

Jobs was a businessman. Perhaps he was a genius and a visionary when it comes to business, but he's still a businessman. Fuck businessmen.

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>>7971039,7
>The only one that really deserves praise is Bill Gates.
You're an idiot. While it is true that both Steve and Bill are guilty of borrowing ideas, Bill Gates is nothing compared to Steve Jobs. Microsoft's business model can be summed up as the following, "Let's try everything and hope something sticks." At least with Apple they have standards. If Apple only cared about profit and public opinion they would have allowed Flash on the iPhone. Apple knows that companies can make better products when they specialize in certain areas. Microsoft wants to do everything. The thing that pisses me off the most about Microsoft is that they're willing to push an entire industry back a few years if it gives them an advantage (e.g., IE's HTML compliance and HD-DVD on Xbox to name a few). Apple's endorsement of HTML5's ever increasing potential is a perfect example of them looking forward.

Steve Jobs loves his products so much that he thinks of them as art. He doesn't want people opening, altering, or messing with his art. I also like it how he doesn't try to please everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't speak in present tense while talking about the dead. It's always past tense.

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing I know about Jobs is that he stole money from the guy who made the original Breakout game. So he can suck dicks in hell.

[Anonymous No.]

Steve Jobs was not an inventor or innovator but he WAS a visionary. He might possibly be the most important visionary of our era. I suggest you look up the definition of that word. He was the man who envisioned a computer in every living room and pocket. He was the guy who envisioned computers being used by non-nerds. He even foresaw his own death. The blatant disrespect I see being thrown at him doesn't bother me because I know that historians will remember Steve Jobs as the man who ushered in the personal computing generation. Bill Gates will be forgotten and RMS will be remembered as an aspie who never achieved his goals because he spent his life talking and not walking.

The truth about Microsoft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhjVidOFqBo

Here's another video that tells a lot about Microsoft's lack of vision:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

[Anonymous No.]

>He even foresaw his own death
www. Yeah, it's kind of hard not to forsee death by cancer.

I agree with >>7971039,10, businessmen are businessmen are businessmen. Jobs was good at marketing, that's all.
>>7971039,11, tell me this: which company was more successful, Microsoft or Apple?
Bill Gates is clearly the better businessman, and he did it without a faggot hipster cult of personality, which is always a plus.

[Anonymous No.]

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were both businessmen who made a whole lot of money because they were good at doing business. Bill Gates was good at getting Microsoft operating systems everywhere so that it became the standard. Steve Jobs was good at marketing. His greatest insight into a computer business is that you can tell the pricing department to go fuck itself because a computer can be a luxury good that people are willing to shell out money for far beyond what utility suggests, like a car, and that way you can focus your efforts on design and marketing because people really like to own shiny things and they really like to own trendy things. That was his big insight. It made Apple successful as all fuck.

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>>7971039,16
>It made Apple successful as all fuck.
Still not in the same dimension as Microsoft, but yea.