Ren'py/OELVN thread

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone into Ren'py games?

Anyone making one, or have some good one to recommend?

Here's one I'm doing in the early stages -

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12053

There's quite a few games out there and not all of them are shit. What would you recommend we check out?

[Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 No.]

I'm making one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938349

Link?

[Anonymous No.]

I am already familliar with both ONScripter as well as various KiriKiri engines.

I will be honest with the fact that I have barely even checked RenPy out because I haven't exactly understood why I should use it over the others, or a specifically crafted engine from scratch if that would be suitable somehow.

They have some FAQ or something right? Is it actually informative is it overselling the product?

[Anonymous No.]

why do that girl have tape all over her lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938326
I'm actually making a Touhou dating sim right now, complete with stats True Love style. I really don't know what to do for art since I can't draw, I guess I'll just poach art off Gelbooru since only /jp/ will ever play it.

[Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 No.]

>>7938355
I don't do that kind of stuff. I may post some info about it when I finish the story.

I can share this, a rough outline of the story. It's a little outdated though.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't seen Ren'py games that aren't shit. Which is quite sad. IMHO main reason for this is that every author thinks "my VN is awesome so if I release it with shitty graphics some decent artist will help me" and releases half finished product. Something that can (arguably) be forgiven to old "when they cry" can not be forgiven to modern games.


>>7938387
That reminds me of simbrothel - they used this method for getting art too afair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938387

I'm not sure what to do for art either, if you look at my drawings in the OP they're mostly quick sketches but I can't necessarily manage much better. If you look through a lot of threads though, you'll see much the same, but the final art is gone over in photoshop or whatever and it's much better. Practice art so you at least get proportions vaguely right, then go over in Flash, Photoshop or whatever. It might look a little generic, but you may find some way of getting creative with it.

Getting a tablet will help too.

Artists are much easier to procure for VNs than they are for say, comics, where it's a nightmare to find someone. You only need about 20 sprites and a couple of CGs to make a short-ish VN look decent. You could always use stock sprites and tweak them if you're really stuck(like Don't take it Personally Babe).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938442

I disagree, Ren'py games are surprisingly decent. I haven't played many, but they've all been worthwhile to some degree.

I hear Magical Diary: Horse Hall is meant to be very good.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like a transvestite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938480
That could be a secret twist in the story!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938480
i thought it was some visual gay dude

[Anonymous No.]

op, listen to me...you need an artist. anyone is good. don't ask why, just trust me.
found yourself an artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938387
>>7938387
Yes! when will be ready?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938480

wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938480
>>7938509

Did you read the description? that's sort of the point, or close to it anyway. I went a bit too blatant with it though, I'll tone it down the next time I draw her. I want her to pass, but I don't want her to look typically female either.

>>7938516

They're doodles, not in game art. I know I can't draw anyway, but I'll see what I can do in photoshop first. I'll use a fairly simple art style.

[Anonymous No.]

please get a real artist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938558

In fairness, it's better Higurashi and not far off some ZUN art.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938563

You kidding? I wish I could draw like ZUN, I'd just need to hide the hands :(

Real artists are tough to find, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938570
No they're not. You're using Ren'py, right?
Looks like the recruitment forum has at least two people willing to do art for free.

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=12030

http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=11827

[Anonymous No.]

you don't need a real artist so much as you need a dedicated artist

if they have even a tiny bit of talent, artists can always improve, so long as they have a good personality and will stick with their work

there are tons of artists who have a bit of skill (pixiv has tons of amateurs who have skills) but lack the proper character to work in tandem with other people

you just need to hope you get lucky, because there is no way you can judge someone's character over the internet

you'll probably go through three or four artists, all of whom do a bit of work and then demand money from you because all they wanted all along was a powertrip, before finding one who actually likes your project and genuinely wants to help

[Anonymous No.]

Shock Cocoon thread? Shock Cocoon thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snjylLUx2TM

[Anonymous No.]

Looking forward to this
http://cradle-song.com/

I liked the preview.

[Anonymous No.]

For fucks sake, since when does /jp/ help random LSF developers churn out their garbage?

The main problem with OELVNs is WRITING. Almost all OELVN writing sucks. No matter how good your art may be, if your writing sucks the VN sucks. No matter how bad your art may be, if your writing is good the VN can be good (see Ryukishi07's works).

OP, there are no good OELVNs to recommend. Because OELVNs are 99% garbage. Go play a real VN instead before even considering writing a VN yourself.

Here's Clannad, good introduction to the medium:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RCPK1FWR
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JYKVCD37
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B8Y3RI50

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1vg3gbb4viydpig

Now stop working on your VN until you've at least played an actual VN. Then don't come back to /jp/ until your writing is any good.

[Anonymous No.]

99% of OELVN's have terrible writing
but also
99% of Japanese VN's have terrible writing too

There are over a hundred thousand VN's. /jp/ discusses about 10 or so VN's at most.

Just to put things in perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938808
But we already have enough shit threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938827
>see Ryukishi07's works

Shitty art and DEEP storyline


Keep it in mind, most japanese VNs are made with a serious working team being paid and not a "doujin" group that doesn't even have talented people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938867
The irony of this post is amazing!
>group that doesn't even have talented people.
Some fine examples would be
Myth,Killer Queen,Tousui Kitan,and eden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938867
His plots notwithstanding, Ryukishi07's writing is way above any OELVN so far, and quite decent for Japanese VN at large.

[Anonymous No.]

Christine Love's next VN will probably be "good". This is the first one she's not rushing to get done in a month.

I quite like some of the shorter "Pass your evening away" ones like Heiress 2 as well. Really, the writing's not that bad. You just have to learn to avoid the ones that are obviously shit.

And KS is still great.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a nukige almost completely planned out but I don't have any practical skills so it's never going to get past that stage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7939391
I had the idea to fuck monstergirls years ago but I too lacked any skills. Now this whole monstergirl craze is under way and I missed my chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7938794

the main difficulty is finding people who "get" the characters. I really probably need to improve my own art at least to the degree where I can communicate how they should appear. I've had people draw my characters before and it doesn't always come out quite right. Breasts too large, too skinny, wrong heights(I need to do a height chart), etc.

Style in general is tough - I don't want a typical Animu style that most OELVNs go for. I don't mind if the art isn't technically great as long as it captures the characters well.

Finding an artist in general that's coming from the same place I am is difficult("Creative Differences"). If I was doing something more generic, it wouldn't be that difficult, but since I have a specific idea, and am dealing a lot with minority issues etc. I need to make sure to get someone who's not going to be turned off by that some place down the road.

[Anonymous No.]

Got a challenge for you all:

Go to the Lemmasoft Renpy forums, and click on "Works in Progress Feedback". Post how long it takes you until you start crying blood.

It certainly didn't take me long.

[Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 No.]

>>7939424
What I'm going to do is finish the story and have potential artists read it without pictures so they get a feel for the characters.

That'll probably be my only requirement of the artists; to read the whole VN. They can take the art in whichever way they want, as long as they read it first and have a feel for each character.