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None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:00:40 2011 No.7891225 [DELETED]

>>7881081

So it seems that /jp/ has officially admitted defeat in an argument regarding the worthiness of eroges.

I have argued that eroges are shit because:

1. Their purpose is to provide sexual stimulation, which as a goal is futile and pointless.

2. They are inefficient at providing sexual stimulation, as compared to porn and viagra.

3. They do not aim to provide intellectual stimulation, which superior genres such as sci-fi do.

4. Narratively speaking, they are demented, obsessive, static and repetitive.

Refute my arguments or admit defeat.

Checkmate.

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:01:40 2011 No.7891232 Wow, /jp/ is really more pathetic than I previously thought.

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:03:42 2011 No.7891242 How does it feel to be intellectually checkmated?

>>	Argumentative Anonymous !!HkNjX9NFPG1 Mon Sep 19 16:03:42 2011 No.7891245 Anyway, I'm saying I'm technically better than you, meaning I'll be above you, being above /jp/ If your argument wins.

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:04:14 2011 No.7891254

Prove my arguments?? That's laughable my friend. In 4chan, opinions=lulz and trolls=trolls. And you fit that equation very well. The fact that you have the odyssey to continue to repel everyone around you and trying to make yourself stand out makes you the biggest loser in this thread. I wonder what your parents have to say about yourself. Either way, you outta feel ashamed of yourself focusing on nothing but troll culture. Are you unemployed or something?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:04:43 2011 No.7891250 that's nice, dear

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:04:43 2011 No.7891252

Eroges have many things going against them.

The anime industry is, currently, something like a 2D brothel that is masquerading as a massage parlor. Eroge lacks the plausible deniability of most anime because it actually contains canonical porn. It's more difficult to acquire and harder to discuss, outside of places like /jp/. VNs and eroge are obscure even in Japan, and let's be honest, like every form of entertainment, most of them are crap.

Additionally, there's the translation factor. Anime and Manga mostly consist of pictures, and even poor translations can float these because the greater half of what's going on needs no translation. Vns, on the other hand, have huge amounts of text and rely greatly on the quality of their writing, necessitating not only much more work and effort of translation, but very high english skills as well in order to convey the spirit of the text in another language. Because a great deal of eroge is masturbatory shlock, it's harder to even get people interested in it.

That said, trolls aside I don't think the community as a whole dislikes eroge, as the popularity of YMK, FSN, Sengokou Rance and others have proven.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:04:49 2011 No.7891253 I am buttfrustrated

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:05:20 2011 No.7891255 File: 19 KB, 447x497, 1232824206950.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Internet argument And I didn't even read the thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:05:43 2011 No.7891257 Cool story bro.

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:06:13 2011 No.7891264

>enter a VN thread with an OP who doesn't like the fact that everyone on /jp/ is intellectually challenged
Might be good, you never know...
> Visual Novel/Eroge Fan is posting
Goddammit, are you people still arguing with this shitposter? Let him be.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:06:13 2011 No.7891263 nice argument avoiding in a previous thread, dude. by creating a new thread you've just proved your attention whoring. reported for meta thread btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:06:15 2011 No.7891271 At first I thought this person was trolling but I can see from the fact that he is continuing the argument all by himself he is sincerely just butthurt

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:06:44 2011 No.7891269 >>7891263 Reported for shitposting in my intellectual discussion. Get banned faggot

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:07:31 2011 No.7891276

The best way to distinguish a work of pornography from a conventional narrative is to look at its structure. All narratives, to some extent, are concerned with such things as character, plot, exposition, development, climax and resolution; but in pornography these are merely nods to propriety, threadbare garments which barely conceal the real purpose of the narrative: to deliver a particular kind of gratification again and again. Conventional narratives may head in any direction, but porn always orients itself towards its pet catharsis, and never strays far away.

Imagine, for example, that you were unaware of porn, and watching one of those softcore "erotic thrillers" on late-night cable. Within minutes you would notice that it was no ordinary thriller, that something about the storytelling was a bit off. You might wonder if it was strictly necessary, from a narrative standpoint, for the characters to disrobe and hump each other every five minutes. You might wonder why random, pointless characters are introduced just to be fucked, and why the plot is contrived in such a way as to allow all the leading characters to hook up in every combination a heterosexual male might care to see. To one expecting a conventional narrative, the porn narrative has a demented, obsessive appearance; it is static, repetitive, moves only in circles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:07:46 2011 No.7891277 >>7891264 uh oh

>>	⑨Liberty-kun⑨ !yFBUixGIig Mon Sep 19 16:08:11 2011 No.7891279 File: 52 KB, 1024x576, Noda172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:08:16 2011 No.7891287 Woah, woah, woah, who cares about all this shit? I just like cute 2D girls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:08:18 2011 No.7891281 >>7891269 It seems that retardation is a social disease on /a/. Be sure to report this thread.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:08:48 2011 No.7891284 I am so buttmad and anally ravanged that i'm going to call the wahhumbulance for my pooperfrustration. The buttranger strikes again!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:08:48 2011 No.7891283 >>7891271 And then he started to use memes and insults as an argument, clearly this person is frustrated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:09:44 2011 No.7891290 File: 1.31 MB, 480x360, internet.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Every thread. No exceptions.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:10:15 2011 No.7891302 Oh wow, babby's first troll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:10:43 2011 No.7891297 >>7891273

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Sep 19 16:10:43 2011 No.7891298
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Literally the worst thread.
>>7891276
Stop making these dumb threads and spamming.

What's next, a "butthurt"? Maybe a "u mad". How about some "random argument nullification", while you're at it?

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:10:49 2011 No.7891301

>"Why should I eat? Having to ingest organic substances is so primitive"

Because ingesting food is what keeps you alive. Try listening in your Biology lessons.

>You know, as much as you may want, there are quite a handful of tasks a human has to complete in order to keep a healthy body. You may want to live in your anime, but you can't deny your own natural needs.

All of which are obvious.

>Now whether you release it by masturbating or actually having sex doesn't matter.

Wow, look at this non sequitur.

You are implying that masturbating is a required "natural need". This is erroneous however. Masturbation is not a required natural need. Once again, back to Biology 101 retard.

>Also, reading sci-fis doesn't make you smart, it just stimulates creativity, and that's as useful to scientists as it is for poets

And where did I say that reading sci-fi made you smart? Oh, that's right, nowhere.

I said that sci-fi is intellectually stimulating. A point which counts AGAINST eroge as eroge does NOT provide intellectual stimulation.

Checkmate.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:11:01 2011 No.7891309
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That's fascinating. Here's my list of reasons.

1. They are not translated and I can't into Japanese ...yet.

2. I can't be arsed to download and install shit.

3. It's commonly censored to hell and back.

4. I can't be arsed to read walls of text simply for fapping.

5. Doujins are better anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:11:47 2011 No.7891308 File: 161 KB, 1052x796, 4fc68d6eed498fc1e43eeb89669c9067..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >pseudo-intellectual analysis of porn 8/10 made my eyelashes twitch and post futa

>>	Lain !!FsvM2KFZ/6g Mon Sep 19 16:12:15 2011 No.7891313 I like /jp/. They remind me of a male version of myself in highschool.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:12:15 2011 No.7891314 File: 57 KB, 402x475, 1316240198307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pic related OP

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:12:56 2011 No.7891318 File: 237 KB, 800x600, 4c4529443dc2fe79812616f2ebcad08d..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This guy is ISM and athens tier of human waste

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:13:15 2011 No.7891322 File: 263 KB, 776x935, 1257394003465.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7891313 Go back to /d/

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:13:15 2011 No.7891323

There's bussloads of anons watching this with frowns on their faces, wishing you would all pause and ignore this discussion. But they cannot tell you to do so because then they wouldn't ignore it themselves and thus perpetuate the horrible conversation.

Do you people understand what I'm saying?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:13:15 2011 No.7891321 >>7891298 Wow, it's like you're psychic, see >>7891301

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:14:23 2011 No.7891324 File: 15 KB, 400x400, 1305878704173.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7891301 >sci-fi is intellectually stimulating

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:14:46 2011 No.7891326 File: 16 KB, 225x224, shout troll.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7891302

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:15:45 2011 No.7891330 File: 383 KB, 1160x807, 19106046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >argument

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:16:14 2011 No.7891333 File: 30 KB, 333x250, yawn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:16:47 2011 No.7891334 >>7891326 Truly, you are a laughable figure. The state of motherboard is worrisome and... Please, reconsider from posting further.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:16:47 2011 No.7891335 File: 98 KB, 386x274, Best of bros.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Argument

>>	The Buttranger Mon Sep 19 16:16:47 2011 No.7891336 File: 42 KB, 600x383, 1316285102200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's wrong, retard? Did your Saten thread get you banned? 19/09/2011 - the date you're butt got ranged hard 4/20

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>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:17:46 2011 No.7891339 >>7891309 Thank you for providing your reasons and supporting my argument.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:18:47 2011 No.7891346 File: 2 KB, 112x127, 1313027112787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7891330

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:19:45 2011 No.7891349 >>7891339 reasons are not facts buddy. stop pulling stuff out of your ass and get your shit together.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:19:45 2011 No.7891350

>You are implying that masturbating is a required "natural need". This is erroneous however. Masturbation is not a required natural need.
It is, even apes do it. Because if you don't, your body will secrete it forcefuly. Or have you not experienced it yet? Also, not doing it builds up to stress.

>I said that sci-fi is intellectually stimulating
As I said, it's not. Real study is intellectually stimulating. As far as I understand, religion itself is composed of fiction, and look where it drove out people to.

>Because ingesting food is what keeps you alive. Try listening in your Biology lessons.
I made an anology and was not expecting for an answer to that.

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:20:26 2011 No.7891356 >call /jp/ weeaboos out on their faggotry >respond by posting pictures showing their butthurt How can you even get so owned in an argument?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:20:49 2011 No.7891359 If the OP is such an intellectual (cough). why does he argue with such riff-raff then? isnt that an insult to his own intelligence?

>>	☣DON'T RESPOND TO IT!☣ Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:21:50 2011 No.7891364 File: 186 KB, 700x700, dont.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] NO! NOT EVEN "JUST ONE COMMENT" HIS STUPID WILL SUCK YOU BACK IN LIKE A BLACK HOLE HIDE IT AND MOVE ON NOTHING HAPPENED

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>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:22:52 2011 No.7891370 >>7891356 Owned. Nice backpedaling, dumbshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:22:52 2011 No.7891372 File: 25 KB, 324x291, 1313107591921.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >opinions

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:23:29 2011 No.7891376 >>7891359 He's not. Potential intelects wouldn't be wasting time this way on 4chan. It's still funny to keep it burning though.

None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:23:53 2011 No.7891377

>>7891350
>It is, even apes do it. Because if you don't, your body will secrete it forcefuly.

So?

>Also, not doing it builds up to stress.

Wrong. It doesn't. Whoever told you this trolled you hard.

>As I said, it's not.

Why not?

>Real study is intellectually stimulating.

I agree, but it doesn't help your argument.

>As far as I understand, religion itself is composed of fiction

Correct

>and look where it drove out people to.

Religion has done both good and bad. But it's not relevant to our argument, which is about eroges and not theology.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:24:39 2011 No.7891386 >>7891376 I see carry on then...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:25:54 2011 No.7891392 I'm tired, OP is fucking boring. It's like someone from /sp/ raids /jp/ while spouting "u mad".

>>	None !!BJiYgff8zf2 Mon Sep 19 16:25:54 2011 No.7891393 ITT: Faptards get owned to hell and back. How can you get intellectually raped so badly? Is it because my arguments blow your mind?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:26:24 2011 No.7891395 File: 77 KB, 500x600, 1316463965704.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:28:47 2011 No.7891395,1 >herp derp i'm retarded >you're retarded >you cant refute my arguments and you're proving my point, i won Ah, Internet, providing me with amusing experiences every day

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 16:40:05 2011 No.7891395,2 >>7891395,1 I actually had fun with him too, sort of. Too bad he propably is buttrange banned by now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 17:40:58 2011 No.7891395,3 >>7891254 >Are you unemployed or something? Is this supposed to be an insult?

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