Why do we, in occident, use shitty smartphones and tactil shit? Why do the japs use "regular" phone? Is there another reason than the fact that smartphones are useless and dambshit stupid but only japan noticed it?

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Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:03:39 2011 No.7880000 [Reply] [Original]

Why do we, in occident, use shitty smartphones and tactil shit? Why do the japs use "regular" phone? Is there another reason than the fact that smartphones are useless and dambshit stupid but only japan noticed it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:04:08 2011 No.7880005 There's more to chose from, so those that treat them accessories like them more. Also, not /jp/-related, take this shit to /int/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:04:08 2011 No.7880006 Japanese people use smartphones too. They are very popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:04:38 2011 No.7880004 File: 13 KB, 247x248, 1302031540116.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7880000 >88 >0000

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:05:39 2011 No.7880009 You're behind the curve, Japanese have already more or less adopted smartphones. Myself, I still wait for a top-spec smartphone with a physical qwerty keyboard that doesn't look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:06:39 2011 No.7880011 I wish there were western flip-phones available that don't look like anus.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:07:10 2011 No.7880018 >>7880006 So, why we never see them in animes or mangas? And even more important, why does Hatate doesn't have one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:07:10 2011 No.7880019 Why do you care? It's not like you have friends to call or loving family members wanting to get in touch or have a job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:07:39 2011 No.7880013 >Why do we, in occident, use shitty smartphones Don't lump us with you. I don't have a phone and I know a good portion of /jp/ is the same.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:12:41 2011 No.7880025

>>7880019

I have (3) friends and my mom call me to ask me what I want from the Mcdonald... I just ask because I hate smartphones, it's so impractical and there are only smartphones in my country and when I say ONLY SMARTPHONES it's not a joke. It's totally impossible to find something else beside shitty physical qwerty shit. (What the fuck? Qwerty? Do you speak latin languages mother fucker?)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:17:42 2011 No.7880044 SSH

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:37:47 2011 No.7880094
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>>7880025
You realize that the point of smart phones is all the stuff it does OTHER than the phone, right? My "phone" is also an mp3 player, a GPS, and quick access to anything on the internet (restaurant reviews, bank accounts, streaming audio, and web comics most relevant). And that's just the tip of the iceberg. With the thousands of free apps out there, my phone also has been used as a level when hanging pictures, a flashlight (using the camera LEDs, oh yeah, my phone is also a camera/camcorder with the ability to instantly upload content online), it can listen to a song on the radio and tell me what it is, its google maps, its fucking star chart when I want it to be. And ALL of this comes in one device. Smart phones are amazing.

Having said that, this comes at the cost of having constant access to all this information. I find it harder to learn because I feel like I don't need to know the information itself, I just need to know where I can quickly find the information. If I ever lost my phone I would probably be shit out of luck.

Back on the subject of Japanese phones, I LOVE the Sharp Aquos 007sh. It's a large flip phone, but the screen swivels around it can also be a touch screen phone. It's running Android 2.3 and has a 16MP camera. I want one, but I doubt it's ever coming stateside, and even if it does it will be so out of date by the time it gets here that it probably won't be worth getting. It looks pretty sweet in black.

I also forgot to mention that smart phone provides instant access to school, work, and personal email.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:43:17 2011 No.7880112 >>7880094 >school, work, and personal email. You shouldn't say that on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:50:17 2011 No.7880125 >>7880094 You can also browse /jp/ with smart phones!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:51:48 2011 No.7880128 Aren't the japanese phones both touch screen and "normal" phone? Which is far far away better than just a touch screen?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:52:49 2011 No.7880131 >>7880018 >anime and goddamn Touhou are accurate depictions of real life

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 09:56:21 2011 No.7880139 >>7880131 >Implying they won't show the current trend of phones in a show aimed for the teenagers and/or geeks.

"iluvOP !ge9bznqAsg Sat Sep 17 10:04:24 2011 No.7880155
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My phone is one of those flip flop whatever types. I like that kind of models the most and getting a smartphone would be extremely useless. My phone is mainly an alarmclock all the time so I dont need to waste a fortune for a fancy clock. So yes, smartphones are a waste of time and money.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 10:12:56 2011 No.7880175

Flip flop phones are much more resistant than smartphones. Your dumbphone fall one time and you can buy another. A flip flop with touchscreen is a god like combination. Sadly we won't get any before 2050 because nokia still want to sell phones made of wood and the asian companies have discovered we are stupid technological retarded baka gaijin that will buy every outdated shit they thrown at us. Apple will only make bigger and bigger more expansive Iboard until we get bored of it, then they'll start to make intelligent and good designed phones. ---> 2050

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 10:13:56 2011 No.7880178 In case you didn't know, Japanese flip phones are quite powerful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 10:30:28 2011 No.7880222 Now I want a new keitai. Too bad you have to pay like fuck to get a modern specimen with internet, MMS and such working. But being able to draw 2ch-esque ASCII art on your phone makes it worth the hassle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:02:05 2011 No.7880363 >>7880175 I totally agree. Common smartphones are way too fragile. A phone be a usable device, and smashable to a degree. And have a keyboard. Those touchy screens slow down my speed of typing.

>>	婦女子ちゃん !oToME4/nUE Sat Sep 17 11:03:04 2011 No.7880365 I use my phone to make tweet and play CAVE games outside without pulling out a laptop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:08:06 2011 No.7880380 >>7880094 All of that sounds very useful if you're a normalfag

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:10:36 2011 No.7880385 I'm still using my Sony Ericsson K800i from 2008. Don't need a smartphone because they are expensive and it's not like anyone calls me anyway. I'm content with my phone as long as it's functional.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:14:08 2011 No.7880401 >>7880380 It's also nice if you're a nerdlinger and have a desire for electronic gadgets.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:15:08 2011 No.7880402 >not using calling-enabled pocket PCs

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:18:07 2011 No.7880414 >>7880401 Why would you need all those features that are literally only useful when you're away from your computer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:24:42 2011 No.7880440 >>7880414 You don't. You don't need figurines either. For some people it's just nice to have. I would never buy a super phone. The one I have is shitty, old ass gook flip phone, and it's enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:35:40 2011 No.7880493 >>7880440 My phone is a nokia 5200. It's big, shitty and slow but goddamn, it's nearly indestructible. If suika was a phone she would be it. I thrown it at a tree just for fun once and it fell from my bicycle two times and it still works perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:38:11 2011 No.7880510 Well lately, I've seen everyone in anime using smartphones. Times change

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:40:11 2011 No.7880522 >>7880493 This is the reason I have a thinkpad. Kalashnikov level durability is so underrated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 11:52:14 2011 No.7880554 >>7880522 Yes, the $99 had nothing to do with it. Also huge glass screen, durable?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:07:14 2011 No.7880584 Why arent japanese phones sold outside of japan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:09:14 2011 No.7880593 You do realize a smartphone's screen never scratches and it's durable as fuck as well the whole thing. I've dropped mine about 5 times and looks/works just like when I bought it. Even tried scratching the screen with a goddamn key and nothing.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:17:43 2011 No.7880620

If you're standing in the train with one hand in a handle, you'll want to be able to use your phone with one hand. This is considerably easier with a narrow phone with physical buttons than with a wider smartphone with a touchscreen. As it happens, Japanese tend to travel by train/subway a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:20:44 2011 No.7880630 >be 20 >never been on a train :( my life feels empty

Killer Whale Sat Sep 17 12:25:16 2011 No.7880639
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my only phone is an old motorola which I've been using for over 7 years by now.

I only used it to make calls or send SMS and occasionally take pictures (lol 640x480 res)

It's been dropped on the floor multiple times and it's still fine. Heck even the paint on the plating has been chipped away at multiple locations.

People just don't care, when their kid gets a phone they just buy whatever that's popular.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:26:42 2011 No.7880640 I will never understand why people are constantly on their phones to begin with. What the hell is so important that you can't be away for a few minutes? Is snake really that damn fun?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:30:47 2011 No.7880649 >>7880640 to avoid social awkwardness when I'm surrounded by people I do no know.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:35:16 2011 No.7880659

>>7880640

You mean angry birds?

Also, I don't know how it is in America but in my country the number of indebted people has grow of 40% because our dumb retard "red necks" buy a lot of app for phones even if they don't even have money to pay the rent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:35:46 2011 No.7880661 Yeah, smartphones are shit. normalfags can't see it. but why would anyone on /jp/ get one? are you wrong in the head or something?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:37:48 2011 No.7880670 >>7880659 Isn't that game from like a billion years ago too? Why's it so popular lately?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:38:18 2011 No.7880673 Smartphones are only useless if you're a hikki and never leave your room.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:39:48 2011 No.7880674 I don't use a smartphone I use a Japanese phone. Somewhat similar to what you put up, OP/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:40:18 2011 No.7880675 >>7880673 >Smartphones are only useful if you're a reverse-hikki and are never in your room.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:45:20 2011 No.7880686 >>7880673 even if you do leave your room, there is no point in trading a working mobile for one of those useless gadgets.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:47:20 2011 No.7880691

I have a smart phone.

I honestly never use any of the functions.

Surfing the web? Fuck expensive because i have no data plan. Also its uncomfortable as fuck surfing with a small screen.

GPS, blue tooth, all that shit...never had ANY reason to use those.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:48:50 2011 No.7880694
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If I for some reason had to go outside often I'd just buy a really simple phone and an old-ass IBM tablet. I mean, it's an actual computer instead of that limited android stuff. Faster too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:50:49 2011 No.7880702 I love clamshell phones. They look so pro. Fuck this smartphone phase for wiping out most of the clamshells.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:51:19 2011 No.7880708 >>7880702 Buy an advanced Jap phone and get the best of two worlds.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 12:59:19 2011 No.7880733 >>7880708 It sad they don't work with sim cards, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:05:19 2011 No.7880742 >>7880733 But they do. Just get an unlocked one or use a hypersim.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:07:21 2011 No.7880752 Internet access on my phone is the only thing that lets me be outside my room and stay sane.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:09:21 2011 No.7880756 Lose a shitload of functions even with sim hack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:11:22 2011 No.7880769 How to get a fucken keitai and use in NA: http://www.howardforums.com/forumdisplay.php/418-Japanese-Phones

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:15:22 2011 No.7880784 >>7880742 >I hate those stupid gadget phones >Get a japanese phone after numerous problems and complications just for the sake of it

>>	"iluvOP !ge9bznqAsg Sat Sep 17 13:20:25 2011 No.7880804 File: 95 KB, 600x450, 777777b8m44o1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ah this is getting out of hand, calm down my little ones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:20:55 2011 No.7880806 >>7880784 Who are you quoting?

b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sat Sep 17 13:20:55 2011 No.7880807

>>7880769
Cons
• GPRS (Internet) locked (on most keitais)
• MMS locked
• GPS locked
• 3G locked for newer models after 920SH
• Signal OUT issue (CPR Issue)
• Multimedia may get locked back for newer models like 920SH and onwards
• Most have no MP3 support, uses WMA or AAC. Japanese usually do not use MP3 due to copyright issues.

Not so good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:24:25 2011 No.7880819 >>7880807 >Japanese usually do not use MP3 due to copyright issues Out of curiosity, what do they usually use? OGG? FLAC? WAV?

>>	b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sat Sep 17 13:25:26 2011 No.7880823 >>7880819 The same line says they usually use WMA or AAC.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:27:26 2011 No.7880833

>>7880819

wma or aac. It's right there.

CPR is a pain especially if it happens when you need to make a call. Happens with every phone and the frequency is still relatively high to be usable as an essential imo. Hypersims may randomly stop working as well due to their crap quality.

>Former SH904 owner.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:28:56 2011 No.7880840 File: 44 KB, 562x437, hahaha_ohwow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7880819 And the Shortest Attention Span of the Week award goes to you, >>7880819-san

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:30:25 2011 No.7880847 >>7880823 AAC I can understand, but WMA? >>7880833 >>7880840 Eh, running on 24 hours awake so I'm largely incoherent. Clicking the quotes back to find the original link seemed like too much effort at the time. A loser is me.

>>	b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sat Sep 17 13:30:26 2011 No.7880851 >>7880833 So besides aesthetics / possibly build quality and camera, is there a reason to use these outside of Japan? It seems like not only the more 'advanced' features but even some basic ones might not work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:39:30 2011 No.7880894 File: 135 KB, 640x426, evo4g.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I like smartphones. It calms me to know that whenever I must leave my household I will always have /jp/ at my side.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:42:30 2011 No.7880915

>>7880851
There's a select few that work properly, and those are great.

Otherwise there's no reason to buy one. At least not an expensive one, because why have a fancy phone you're locked outside of? However, there are Keitais running for like 100$ which work flawlessly except for the classic issues (No MMS or internet). These low-end Jap phones are superior to low-end Western phones. Big screens, nice buttons, decent cameras, lots of characters to use in SMS, clamshell, exotic and stylish.

I have an 740SC I bought for 110$ on ebay. Works perfectly except for the lack of internet. The issues on that list (Except for lack of internet) mostly apply to specific models and unlocks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:43:30 2011 No.7880917 >>7880851 Nope. None at all. Just exclusivity here in Vancouver where every single person seems to have cash to burn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 13:55:59 2011 No.7880968 I love my smartphone, endless stuff you can do with it. Fuck yes Android.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 14:18:35 2011 No.7881046 >>7880915 >lack of internet Great, the only single feature I care on a phone besides making calls and a clock.

Tsubasa Cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sat Sep 17 14:50:36 2011 No.7881191
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>Is there another reason than the fact that smartphones are useless and dambshit stupid but only japan noticed it?

I found all kinds of crazy pointless shit on the Japanese itunes store.

Thre are numerous pocket girlfriend/dayplanner apps are truly pointless. It's fun to aggressively pet the girls until they get angry, but you get bored of that in like 7 seconds. Then you touch the clock and they tell you the time.

Then they try to nail you with DLC... DLC for a phone app is just wrong. New outfits for kuroneko for 200 yen? FFUUUU

(Also: fingerprints. The phone was wiped clean before the photo, and those prints appeared just from opening the app).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 14:52:05 2011 No.7881207 >>7881191 No, you don't get it. Japan is better in every sense. Arguments are irrelevant;

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 14:55:36 2011 No.7881217 I don't find them useless at all. I get to satisfy my internet addiction without pulling out a laptop, I can get directions when I'm lost, listen to music without needing another device and make phone calls. It's convenient.

Tsubasa Cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sat Sep 17 14:59:09 2011 No.7881244
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Hey did they ever get the barcode kanojo international edition working for android yet?

The game where you scan barcodes to generate girlfriends, and then go around stealing other peoples girls. The android edition was released in April but no one could get it to work due to region codes or some shit.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:09:37 2011 No.7881288

>>7881217
It's extremely useful for me.
Camscanner to make pdf's of any text with photocopy quality out of any text photo.
Wikipedia anywhere
Googlemaps for any direction w/ magnetometer compass.
Dropbox on your phone for any important file or document, which is great for work.
Quality Music/Video player.
Lots of admittedly useless stuff, but still apps that appeal to certain people. Like having the arXiv on the go, a goddamn miracle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:11:43 2011 No.7881295 >>7881244 Nope, you can download it, but need a japanese carrier email account in order to use, which is pretty much an ultimate obstacle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:11:43 2011 No.7881297 File: 204 KB, 997x651, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7881244 ;_; One of the reasons I wanted a phone.

Tsubasa Cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sat Sep 17 15:20:37 2011 No.7881323

>>7881295
>>7881297

The game still has a huge following in Japan. I scanned a bunch of july-august products from amiami, and 100% of them area already generated. Every anime figure, magazine, DVD is already a girl, and they seem to fight to protect their harems.

I just scanned my keyboard box and the Deus Ex 3 PC edition.... they were also already registered.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:27:38 2011 No.7881338 >>7881323 Never played that, but couldn't you just generate, print and scan your own barcodes? There's no real secret behind that, unless there's some sort of list of accepted barcodes...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:35:38 2011 No.7881366 File: 93 KB, 320x480, ScreenShot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7881244 Blame this Gree shit

Tsubasa Cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sat Sep 17 15:42:41 2011 No.7881395

>>7881338

Well, every time you generate a girl her picture appears on the main kanojo website for others to see. If they are popular they will be after her.

They will see what product she was scanned from, and if it is a made up one you get your account deleted.

Being a social network game it really doesn't pay to cheat. Just find more obscure products to scan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 15:43:52 2011 No.7881399 I hate smart phones. My qualm isn't that other people use it, my qualm is that they expect you to use it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:02:15 2011 No.7881471 >>7881366 Looks like there's absolutely no way to get this to work if you don't have an au, docomo or softback account, so give it up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:05:45 2011 No.7881480 Are there any /jp/ related apps for android?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:09:44 2011 No.7881498 I have so many cute little Kanojos

Tsubasa_cat !!otZqtLVzeXj Sat Sep 17 16:12:20 2011 No.7881508

>>7881471

That is too bad...

I had to set up a fake itunes japan account and change region settings to get the other /jp/ apps I wanted. But that whole Japanese email thing for the android looks impossible.

They already have the game fully translated and on NA itunes. No idea why they don't release the android one as well.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:12:49 2011 No.7881510
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Smart phones are so bulky and I have no use for it. I rather get a small and slick mobile that's easy to carry around. Smart phones are useful if you're some kind businessmen, need it for the convenience of your job or just some faggot kid that think it's cool and trendy.

Pic related, it's my cellphone but mine is white. Dropped it a few times - once off the second floor of my house and landed on the tile floor below. Still working without problems.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:15:48 2011 No.7881522

>>7881480
https://market.android.com/details?id=jp.co.d3p.dreamclock00.amane&hl=ja

https://market.android.com/details?id=althi.hrkw.CalcGirl&hl=ja

https://market.android.com/details?id=com.ntt.app.rokujyo

https://market.android.com/details?id=jp.gkm.tool.bisyoujo_widget

etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:16:46 2011 No.7881529 Ohh god what.... http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/otakurooms/id336881729?mt=8 Otaku room app. Photos of otaku rooms, for $1.99. By team Jun. Someone took a /jp/ thread and made an app out of it.

proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. Sat Sep 17 16:21:18 2011 No.7881554
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>>7881510
Yours must be an exception to the rule, all of the Sony Ericsson phones I've had were shit.

Now I'm using a Symbian Nokia, it's slow as HELL but at least the battery lasts longer.

I wish I had a shiny android, though...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:23:49 2011 No.7881561 >>7881510 >Bulky What? say that to my Galaxy S II. Sometimes I even forget it's in my pocket.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:28:46 2011 No.7881579 https://market.android.com/details?id=am.ate.android.olmahjong http://itunes.apple.com/jp/app/id388624969?mt=8 Best riichi mahjong you'll find on android/iphone/ipad

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 16:30:16 2011 No.7881583 >>7881529 Pretty sure nobody is buying that stuff.

>>	b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sat Sep 17 16:48:49 2011 No.7881668 >>7881480 http://www.eroge-market.com/index.php?i_am_over_18=1 Android eroge market?

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 20:01:42 2011 No.7882391

Main things for which I use my phone (Nexus S with Android for €300):
Reading books
using dictionaries/encyclopedias
practicing kanji, japanese, math
alarm clock
...regular clock
ordering pizza etc.
camera
occasional calls (mostly just to hotlines etc. because I don't like people)
web browsing
playing logic/puzzle games, or SNES games on emulator
2chまとめロイド
internet access for my computer when my telco fucks up again (via WLAN or USB tethering)
GPS navigation
checking my ebay auctions
planning trips (the German railway company has a nice app that's much better than their regular website)
listening to music/audiobooks/エロボイス and watching videos on the go
flashlight (using either the camera LED or the display)
calculator

I'm on trains/trams/buses a lot because I don't have a car, so I'm often in situations where using my phone is the best option.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:50:48 2011 No.7882915 Why cant you unlock a japanese phone?

>>	Necrobrotent Sat Sep 17 22:54:48 2011 No.7882924 My smartphone is fucking awesome. I can play dragon's lair on my goddamn phone!

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 22:59:23 2011 No.7882945

Japanese phones have been very similar to western smartphones since.. before smartphones became big in the west.

They don't tend to have a common universal OS as it becoming common here, but, they still browse the web/get email and can read those little black/white square symbols, which work by you taking a picture of it and that symbol will then take you to a website; it's easier than typing out a URL on your phone, and sometimes special promo offer sites can only be accessed through those little symbols.

They also can use their phones to pay for parking, train/subway, vending machines, get live updates on where the trains are on a route / link up with the station to see exactly when the train is supposed to get there, and all sorts of other nifty things.

Basically the only thing their phones don't have are large appstores. And even then, the iphone used to not be that popular over there at first, because it was seen as being like a brick compared to what typical Jap phones can do. Once the appstore started to localize over there (e.g apps useful/interesting to Japanese started to pop up), now the iphone is massively popular; this signifies that western-type smartphones are indeed catching up there if only so they can have silly apps, like the one in that Cosmic Break iphone app thread floating around here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:03:23 2011 No.7882956 Can someone recommend me a tablet to read manga on? I don't think this is called a "smartphone" but maybe it is.

Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:04:23 2011 No.7882961
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All I do is send text messages and email with my phone. I'm thinking about getting a Japanese phone just because I don't do much with mine, and they're more cute than the U.S. counterparts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 17 23:19:50 2011 No.7883001 >>7882961 would it work? an unlocked japanese phone?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 00:52:31 2011 No.7883450 I remember when I had the Motorola Razer almost seven years ago. I used to pretend it was a Jap phone.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 01:00:32 2011 No.7883486 >>7883001 If it works with your country's carrier signals then yes, look up what signals your country/region uses and compare it to the specs on whatever phone you wish to buy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 01:45:03 2011 No.7883563 >>7883486 How do you unlock a japanese phone anyway?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:09:10 2011 No.7883616 >>7883563 You buy a special sim card adaptor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:12:09 2011 No.7883622 >>7883616 Where?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 02:15:07 2011 No.7883626 >>7883622 type in "hypersim" in google and purchase it. Other than that there are people who can crack the factory made phones but those people are hard to find.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 03:18:19 2011 No.7883773 >>7883626 Why are the phones locked in the first place? I can bring my samsung phone anywhere in the world and use sms and make phone calls with it as long as i have an appropriate SIM in it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 05:03:24 2011 No.7884094

The Japanese do a lot of shit with their phones much more than the average American.

With a Japanese phone and depending which Japanese bank you're under, you can even use your cellphone as a substitute wallet to pay for subway fares, taxis and food.

Also, all Japanese cellphones have come with such features like TV tuners for decades.

The Japanese phone market is also too hardcore for Apple censors to take. Apple's censorship of adult apps is just too strict when it comes to the kinds of content some Japanese want.

Not only that, but Japanese people don't really enjoy touchscreen keyboards. They prefer touching actual keys.

It's not surprising coming from a culture where cell phone novels are very popular in Japan, especially among the teen crowd, to the extent some cell phone novels have even been made into movies or TV dramas.

iPhones also have too high a monthly plan at $60 a month. The Japanese phone market is so competitive that average monthly plans are always dirt cheap.

Furthermore, not many Japanese actually own personal computers as you expect they would. Why?

Because their phones are already good enough to substitute as personal computers, so there's not much need to buy a real personal computer.

And cellphones are also seen as fashion accessories by the Japanese. The iPhone just looks plain bland compared to its Japanese competitors.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 05:08:24 2011 No.7884114

Foreign smartphones are still lagging behind Japanese cellphones in terms of USEFUL features even though iPhones etc. are flashier and have a sleeker interface.

The only shitty thing about Japanese cellphone is the awful interface, but with the introduction of theAndroid OS to the Japanese phone market, things may change for the better, and people around the globe should be able to buy these Japanese cellphones when they become available.

http://www.dailytech.com/Android+Customers+to+Get+Japans+Cell+Phone+Credit+Card+Tech/article21233.ht
m

http://tokyoandjapan.wordpress.com/2011/03/10/japanese-mobile-phone-companies-looking-to-expand-glob
ally/

http://www.otokujapan.com/japanese-phone-companies-strike-back/

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 05:23:28 2011 No.7884166

Because of retarded American bureaucracy, greed, and capitalism; it will be fucking years before we have something like a refined 4G or 5G cellular network.

On the other hand, Japan & South Korea are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing such advanced cellular networks.

America still hasn't even come close to the high internet speeds South Korea, Japan, and Hong Kong people get to enjoy on a daily basis.

No matter how you retards keep praising on about smartphones, realize that Japanese cellphones have essentially no limits nor restrictions to innovation due to their advanced cellular networks their country has built for them

I still can't get over the fact people got excited years ago over a 3G iPhone. Wow, 3G is sure is something to get excited over, huh?

Stay classy, you cocksucking, ignorant Appletards.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 05:44:09 2011 No.7884229 >>7884166 Stop saging

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:01:43 2011 No.7884265 >>7884229 >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:02:42 2011 No.7884267 >>7884229 u mad dude? here, have some more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:06:45 2011 No.7884276 age

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 06:21:45 2011 No.7884328

>>7884166
>realize that Japanese cellphones have essentially no limits nor restrictions to innovation due to their advanced cellular networks their country has built for them

there comes a point when you stop sounding like you're making a rational argument and start sounding like a bona fide ken-sama

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 11:41:27 2011 No.7885204 Why do western cellphones look like crap compared to japanese ones?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 11:49:02 2011 No.7885213 Why are you such a shit faggot eater cock sucker homo gay fag?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 11:50:32 2011 No.7885218 >>7885213 You don't belong on /jp/!!! SAGE SAGE SAGE!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 11:54:57 2011 No.7885235 I don't own a phone, but one day i know that i'll need one, i'm really into smartphone, i just want one to call people so i guess i need one of these hard as rock phone resistant to everything, no idea if there's one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 12:04:59 2011 No.7885266 Apparently the Keitai models released in Taiwan and China work with 3G data, like internet, e-mail and such. And if those are the models that those chinese sellers on E-bay are selling, they're actually cheaper as well. But there's probably a catch.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 12:14:29 2011 No.7885295 You guys do realize smartphones overtaking keitai in Japan, right? You only see iPhone and Android nowadays, Keitai are for the poor.

b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sun Sep 18 12:54:57 2011 No.7885395

>>7885266
As I understand it, some of the phones have different features. For example, the Sharp 923SH is the Japanese version and you'd need to use a hypersim and stuff but the phone might be media locked so you can't use media or the camera or whatever. The Sharp 9020C is the same phone, but the Chinese version. The phone is unlocked so you can use the internet, camera, etc without a hypersim, however there is no 3G on the phone compared to the 923SH that has it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:34:08 2011 No.7887096 >>7885266 Got a list of phones like that?

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 20:41:10 2011 No.7887119

>>7884166
I never understood the need for something faster then 3G.

I have a Samsung Galaxy S2, I'm satisfied with H+, I can load jewtiube vids in 720p not that my phone has such a high resolution, but it loads perfectly, I can stream videos, i can chat over skype, I can even download torrents at decent speeds.

I mean what the point. I have a 1GB limit monthly for my 3G. I had the Samsung Galaxy S2 for like it's 5 months now...I got it in April?

Anyways most I have used a month is like 654 MB...

So why do we need 4G or 5G? What are you going to do with it? Are you going to download FULL HD stuff on it? And view it on a qHD screen?

3G is more then we need right now for mobile devices like phones.

Above 3G is something you'd like for your mobile internet connection if oyu have a laptop or a PC somewhere where theres no cable or DSL.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:16:13 2011 No.7887270

>>7887096
You're in luck. I've been researching this especially hard for a few weeks myself to buy a new model. I ain't got a list, but I've got some tips and examples.

Basically, the two main companies Keitai fans are interested in are called Sharp and Softbank.

The reasons why the Japanese phones are locked are complicated and uninteresting, but it has its root in the fact that the Japanese don't buy phones, only contracts.

Sharp makes traditional Keitas for the Japanese, Taiwanese and Chinese markets, most of their non-jap phones works with 3G internet and such, their genuine Japanese phones do not. The hardcore Keitai fans especially like their Chinese android phones (No smartphone crap, these are still flip-phones.). Softbank makes chinese phones too, but apparently the 3G data on their phones usually don't work.

So, if you want a a cool gook flip-phone, Sharp is your best bet.

Some Chinese Sharp models common with Gaijin scum:
9020c
SH809UC
1810c
SH7218u

These aren't gutter creations by hobos. They're high quality stuff. More or less exact reproductions of their Jap equivalents (9020c is 920sh, for example). Some fans prefer the subtle changes, actually. These non-jap versions does not require hypersims or that bullshit either, which is a huge plus.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:21:05 2011 No.7887298
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>>7887270
(Continued)

However, they aren't cheap, contrary to what that other poster said, however. Expect SH7218u to cost something like 5-600$. Some phones can be found on ebay, but they are usually overpriced. Import from China if you wish, the cost of phones is less, but expect the same hassle as when buying doujins and such. Middlemen all over, most likely. But I'm not sure.

Research is the key to this, no matter what phone you buy. Internet doesn't necessarily have to work correctly, even on a Chinese handset. Howardforums.com has an excellent section for Japanese Phones, I suggest you go there to check things out. And rev up your search engines.

There are also genuine Japanese phones which should work with internet, but on an individual basis, to say the least.

(Japanese Softbank phones with half-confirmed internet capabilities)
933SH
707SC
740SC

I have an 740SC and it aint working.

In the end I will probably run with a Lenovo P90W. It's cheap, around 100$. Not a true-blooded Keitai, but Simple, flip form, Internet that should work, but very few english comments about this handset exist, so who knows how well it works? But with the price, the gamble is worth it. I feel that a 600$ android monstrosity would cause to many tears if it doesn't work. If I'll ever see another keitai thread I might report my findings.

I hope my Berlin wall of text answers your tiny request for a thread. Such massive commitment and research is necessary for Keitai people.

b.b.hood !ponpOnMgkc Sun Sep 18 21:28:38 2011 No.7887329

>>7887119
Is your H+ for HSDPA or HSPA+? Regardless, you're on a network that's already faster than standard 3G.

Also it's not just about HD video. As the devices become more capable, people do more things with them and expect snappier service.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:44:57 2011 No.7887402 >>7887298 Some additional models: SH7218U SH6320C SH7228U The Lenovo P85 (more or less a copy of a panasonic keitai) I suggest browsing j-phone.ru just to get a look at some phones. The sharp models with the longer names are usually Chinese.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:48:16 2011 No.7887419

becasue english-speaking countries find typing on number keys difficult and need QWERTY.

In Japanese, typing on a number is very well suited.

Also, "smartphones" are really no different then Japanese phones, which have long has advanced internal parts that ran similar "apps"

in short, 'murikkka is decades late to the party of advanced cell phones and still can't compete with Japan

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:50:21 2011 No.7887426

>>7887419
People need to stop thinking this. The hardware on some of the devices might be more advanced, but aside from the often cited 'TV and wallet' functions, name me software features of a typical Japanese phone that can't be done with an iphone or android app.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:53:52 2011 No.7887444 >>7887426 They have no better stuff. For the first time, western phones are on an equal level. That's why the Iphone is taking root.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 21:57:18 2011 No.7887455 >>7887444 Please. Even for basic functions like a browser, you think Keitai ones are better than mobile safari or various android options?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:00:49 2011 No.7887467 >>7887455 That's the complete reverse of what I said.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:04:49 2011 No.7887499

>>7887444
>>7887419
Oh wow, what the hell is wrong with you?
It's like you've never seen a 1.2GHz dual core, 1GB RAM phone running on Android. Aside from the specs, the fact that iPhone/Android have unlimited, way more useful, Apps beat any damn Keitai. That's not counting you get super AMOLED screens, magnetometers, accelerometers, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:06:19 2011 No.7887508 >>7887499 I said androids were good, fuckface.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:08:49 2011 No.7887515 >>7887467 Not exactly. You're saying the western smartphone OS are "on an equal level" when they appear to be surpassing keitais in lots of areas.

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:13:21 2011 No.7887538

>>7887508
>"smartphones" are really no different then Japanese phones
>in short, 'murikkka is decades late to the party of advanced cell phones and still can't compete with Japan
>They have no better stuff. For the first time, western phones are on an equal level
>equal level

No, you didn't

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:18:52 2011 No.7887565 Why do japs keep using shitty old-fashioned cellphones? Why do japs keep like this >>7884094, >>7884114, >>7884166 keep defending their shitty phones? Why they keep posting shitty fake propaganda about their shitty phones?

Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:19:23 2011 No.7887569

>>7887538
Yours and his samefag detector is broken, and equal is good. And "They" as in the Japanese phones.

>>7887515
But I think modern Keitai use the Android OS. I haven't slept or eaten in a day and I don't know what "side" I'm arguing for anymore. Either Keitai or Smartphones are great, and they have various differences which are good or bad depending on whoever is judging.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 18 22:21:58 2011 No.7887585 >>7887565 *japs like

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 00:48:47 2011 No.7888094 >>7887298 Why are they so expensive?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 00:54:17 2011 No.7888112 why would japan use the same phones as 1st-world nations

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>>	None !GoodGIr1f2 Mon Sep 19 01:10:50 2011 No.7888164 I still use a flip phone. But then again, I can't afford a data plan and suck at typing on those damned touch screens.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 01:15:50 2011 No.7888197

I have a cheap android (Samsung Galaxy 5 or some shit) and while it's serviceable I think I prefer flip-phones. I wouldn't mind a Jap phone because they're a lot nicer to look at and probably hold, plus I don't make a lot of calls.

When mobile carriers start making plans with high data but low call credit, and Sharp/Softbank expand out of Asia I might finally pick one up. Until then it's just too much of a pain in the ass, so I'll stick with a prepaid.

Pity Ausfag telcos are all jews who charge $2/MB for prepaid 'net usage.

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 01:21:52 2011 No.7888223

>>7888197
>Samsung Galaxy 5
>240 x 320 pixels display
>600 MHz processor
Couldn't find anything about the RAM, but no wonder you don't like it.
Maybe you could install a custom rom, like cyanogenmod and overclock that processor. The display is pure shit, that's for sure.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 19 01:28:21 2011 No.7888255 >>7888223 I always knew it was kind of shit, but it does what I need it to so I have no justifiable reason to replace it. Fun fact though: This thing cost me $150, and I've only had it a few months. >Welcome to Australia!

Anonymous Mon Sep 19 01:43:01 2011 No.7888336
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I have this Corean thing that cost $100 and it's $35 a month for unlimited data. Maybe I'll get a proper keitai in a few years, but right now I don't see a logical selling point to have one over what I currently own. The biggest problem with smartphones is carriers often cripple a machine's capabilities to justify a lower monthly charge.

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