/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

How do they call VNs without porn in Japan? You know, stuff like Steins;Gate, Clannad, Umineko or Amagami.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858019
Galge.

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>Steins;Gate, Clannad, Umineko or Amagami.

It's shit, right?

[Anonymous No.]

galge for everything except Umineko, which is a sound novel. Ever17's official genre is Ren'ai Adventure Game too

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858019
You are right to be ashamed of yourself. They're all called VN for one. The ones with harems are called dating simulations. The ones with porn are branded as eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

ADV or galge.

[Anonymous No.]

ADV, IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

If you have a name for the opposite, just use the negation, silly.
Non-Eroges

[Anonymous No.]

VNs with and without porn are called ADVs. Not all eroge are ADVs. Not all ADVs are eroge.
Learn how punnet squares work.

[Anonymous No.]

with porn - eroge
without porn - visual novel

Nobody in Japan call eroge as VN

And ADV stand as adventure game, just subgenre for VN and eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

>How do they call VNs without porn?

VNs. Also, Umineko is a sound novel, aka shitty art but awesome OST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858048
>Umineko is a sound novel, aka shitty art
But that's false.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858044
>punnet squares
Fuck. Meant venn diagrams. My mind is fucking going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858047
>without porn - visual novel
wrong, visual novel is that format that has the text all over the window like a book, it's used only for a handful of games like FSN and similar, it's not really used that much. Games without porn are usually galge, bishoujo game or adventure.

[Anonymous No.]

Steins;Gate doesn't have porn?

I am quite disappointed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858048
Than all VNs should be more like sound novels. I hate it that most of them spend so much effort in silly voice packs. I don't even bother installing them nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858058
They CALL it VN if it doesn't have porn. It doesn't mean that it's not VN if it have porn, they just don't CALL it that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858057
>Yukari Tamura
>Kana Hanazawa
>expecting porn

[Anonymous No.]

Jesus christ.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_novel

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858060
That's dumb, you're dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858065
>They CALL it VN if it doesn't have porn
but they don't, "visual novel" is rarely used by japanese at all and they use other words for non-ero games

[Anonymous No.]

They call erotic stuff Eroge.
Otherwise they call it Visual Novels, Galge or ADV or whatever, depending on the work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858076
So what is this wiki page about?
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83%93%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%8E%E3%83%99%E3%83%A
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[Anonymous No.]

>>7858019
>How do they call VNs without music in Japan? You know, stuff like... well I don't know, but there must be some.

[Anonymous No.]

OP was specifically asking about Japan since they don't use the term "Visual Novel", great to see so many visual_novel_experts ITT

[Anonymous No.]

ADV or NVL depending on the textbox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858070
>high pitched little girls speaking a language that you can't understand and interfere with their gabbing while you wish to read
Very dumb, indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858085
I said it's rarely used, not that it doesn't exist. On 2ch and egs you basically never see people calling games like Steins;Gate and such visual novels. You can check their wiki pages to see their designated genre too, isn't internet awesome?

[Anonymous No.]

>sound novel
That term was basically coined by Ryu07 for the sole reason that was him being somewhat embarresed over the visuals of his electronic book with sound and supposed visuals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858104
>a language that you can't understand
cool implications
>and interfere with their gabbing while you wish to read
and cool attention span

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858091
That explains why its a tag on EGS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858125
Go say it to Chunsoft, kiddie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858113
The problem is they don't call them in ANY other way. "Galge" "eroge" and so on are terms that the community uses to refer to certain cathergories but it's not like they have to specify the cathegory each single game belongs to any time they talk about them.

Simply put they don't use "visual novel" or "sound novel" as a term in their everyday discussions. But if you were to ask them what genre of game is "Higurashi" or "Umineko" they would either answer "sound novel" or "visual novel". There's really no other term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858155
>Simply put they don't use "visual novel" or "sound novel" as a term in their everyday discussions.
Yeah, and this is what we're talking about. That guy was saying they call just non-porn game that way though, and it's not true.

[Anonymous No.]

The term VN should only be used if the game has no other interaction than to click to advance text and make choices.
If there is puzzle solving, it should be a puzzle game.
If it has rpg elements it could be an rgp or adventure game.
If it has little rythm minigames, it should be a rythm game and so on.

Eroge is a very broad term that could include any game containing porn.

Sound novel is just a silly term, since the visual elements are much more important in understanding the game (for example, the MC never has a voice so if you dont read the text you're missing half of the story.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858202
>Sound novel is just a silly term, since the visual elements are much more important in understanding the game (for example, the MC never has a voice so if you dont read the text you're missing half of the story.)
>novel
the text is part of "novel" portion of the term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7858280
Yeah?
I thought the term ´novel´ was there because it is narrative divided in chapters.
But I guess I was wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>Steins;Gate
ADV. Be it ero or not, it will always be either ADV, or NVL.

>Clannad
>Amagami
Galge/bishoujoge.

>Umineko
Kusoge.