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Do you ever wonder if some of the artist that do these images were born much earlier, They'd be famous?

I mean look at this shit. Its great.

>> No.7827176

Not likely, A lot of the doujin artist use digital software, even then. They had to draw inspiration from other long dead artist.

>> No.7827185

Jerk off some more to it, Jesus.

>> No.7827188

The would would have turned weeaboo that much sooner and maybe Japan would have been invaded by some European country.

>> No.7827198

Just because it's good from a technical aspect doesn't mean it's also good from an artistic one.

>> No.7827200

Did you ever consider that most of those artists would've starved to death rather than get their hands on art education and materials if they were born in that time?
I'm also pretty sure they didn't have photoshop back then.

>> No.7827205
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the good ones only put out around 10 images a year.

>> No.7827207
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Could anyone post a simular to this(the one I've posted) one wallpapers?

>> No.7827210

>>7827198
There's a lot of famous art like that too. But it was hard to do and hardly anyone was doing it.

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>>7827207

and I'll post some of my touhoue ones.

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>>7827214

>> No.7827222

Imagine a world... where all the famous artists of the past instead of painting stuff from biblical events painted stuff from the Touhou universe just like that shit the OP posted...

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>>7827220

>> No.7827234

No. Touhou is shit and is only considered art by troglodytes such as yourself.

>> No.7827235

no, because touhou did not exist then.

>>7827222
It's be a better world. Fuck that other nonsense.

>> No.7827236

Pop culture sure beats real art!

>> No.7827241

>>7827236
>touhou
>pop culture

Kill thine self.

>> No.7827239
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Lowlight does some pretty good stuff, the whole techpunk theme on them is pretty interesting, though that hardly fits with artists back then.

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>>7827198
But the OP picture isn't particularly technically good.
Competent, sure, but outstanding? Not really.

>> No.7827264

>>7827243
I'm sure you could do better, right?

>> No.7827274

>>7827264
Thousands of artists could.

>> No.7827275

>>7827264
Man, I'm sure you could compose better music or write a better novels than those you complaint about everyday too right?

>> No.7827281

>>7827264
You should be mature enough not to use that argument.

>> No.7827291

>>7827264
>'This sandwich isn't very good.'
>"WELL YOU BETTER BE A CHEF OR YOU CAN'T GIVE YOUR OPINION ON FOOD"

No, shut up and stop being a faggot

>> No.7827304
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Wow good job derailing the thread, guys.

>> No.7827326

>>7827291
Who are you quoting?

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>>7827161
Nowadays, anybody can try art if they're willing to. Back then, only a select few got the chance to start doing art. If those artists had been born much earlier, they would have never drawn a single image.

Same with composers. Music has never improved as much as in the last 50 years. That's not because there's suddenly so many talented people, it's because people finally get the chance to create music.

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>>7827200
This.

>>7827214
Nice.

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>> No.7827344

NO!.

Japanese art was not good until it came in contact with western influence.

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I wonder where can I get more of these...
On danbooru, gelbooru? Or maybe pixiv?

>> No.7827362

>>7827335
Pretty sure this is 3D-rendered stuff. Definitely looks like it anyways.

>> No.7827368

I do, OP, and I agree.

I think there's a ton of talent that will never be recognized because they're socially reclusive and unwilling to "sell" themselves. Making money at art usually requires the artist to be a shitsucking hipster faggot.

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>> No.7827373

>>7827352
konachan does large res stuff, perhaps

The "scenic" tag also gives you a lot of pretty things.

>> No.7827378

>>7827344
Oh, is that why the French had a huge boner for Japanese art? Even an art movement was born because of Japanese art.

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>>7827373
Thanks, I'll look up there.

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>>7827378
Just as we today have people that like foreign things, so did the people of the past.

Your "movement" was composed of around 100 artist who were simply interested in a foreign cultures art. This is what happens when 2 cultures meet for the first time, they share shit.


Compared to western art of he time, Japanese art was shit by our standards.

>> No.7827418

>>7827402
So the had french hipster and weeaboos back then

>> No.7827426

>>7827402
>Compared to western art of he time, Japanese art was shit by our standards.
Congratulations, you don't know shit about art.

>> No.7827442

>>7827426
Most of japanese art is shit, apart from those that follow chinese style. And I'm saying this only because I like that style, if I didn't, I'd consider it shit too.

Are you seriously saying that japanese drawing style on that picture is better than those western drawings? And don't give me bullshit about it "just being different, not worst or better".

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>>7827402
>Your "movement" was composed of around 100 artist
Ahahaha oh wow, you keep thinking that. By the way, Vincent van Gogh was one of these people who were influenced by Japanese art.

>> No.7827452

>>7827402
>Seriously, you don't understand the glory of japan.jpg

>> No.7827460

>>7827442
No one was saying it is better you retarded fuck. I was only responding to the retard who said
>Japanese art was not good until it came in contact with western influence.
which is false because Western art movement was born because of Japanese art. That's quite big if you ask me.

Also I'm not pretending to know much about art, but neither do you with your "IT LOOKS IMPRESSIVE SO IT MUST BE BETTER!" mindset.

>> No.7827466

>>7827446
I've watched Samurai Champloo too.


>>7827460
>Western art movement was born because of Japanese art. That's quite big if you ask me.


But that's fucking wrong you goddamn idiot.

>> No.7827467

>>7827442
Hm yes let me allow a troll picture to frame my argument

>> No.7827471

van gogh is shit though.

>> No.7827477

>>7827402
>comparing woodblock printing to canvas
lold

have you seen western woodblock printing? it's primitve

>> No.7827480

>>7827471
Van Gogh is shit, but retards buy his shit, and pay some big mooney for it.
Even my toilet doodles look better.

>> No.7827482

Holy shit who are these people? What the fuck are you doing on my /jp/, pretending to know shit about art?

>> No.7827491

>>7827477
> it's primitve
Taft's the thing though, Western art moved on, whereas Japanese art remained primitive for a good while, Chinese art on the other hand....

Look Japanese art looked good if you were Japanese, to the rest of the world it was nothing more than a novelty.

No without resorting to wikipedia, can you tell me one other japanese inspired artist that has not been mentioned in anime or manga?

>> No.7827497

>>7827482
Calling any one thing art above another has always been a game for the pretentious, skill gets you nowhere, whereas the right connections do, its the same game as politics, you get nowhere unless you know the right people.

>> No.7827499

ITT: /jp/ doesn't know what historical context is.

>> No.7827502 [DELETED] 

>>7827491
>Taft's the thing though, Western art moved on,
Oh really? They produced woodprinting just as Japan did. Canvas and woodblock printing are two different things that shouldn't be compared like that idiot did with his picture.

Are you a chink/good by any chance?

>> No.7827508

>>7827491
>Taft's the thing though, Western art moved on,
Oh really? They produced woodprinting just as Japan did. Canvas and woodblock printing are two different things that shouldn't be compared like that idiot did with his picture.

Are you a chink/gook by any chance?

>> No.7827509

>>7827482
>>7827499
Jesus Christ. Claim down, most of people here trolling.
Japanese art is shit though.

>> No.7827512

>>7827509
> most of people here are trolling.*
Van Gogh also sucks ass.

>> No.7827518

>>7827508
You are the one that sounds like a jap apologist here.

>> No.7827523

>>7827518
I'm not even a jap or apologist for that matter. I'm just spewing out some cold facts. Woodprints influenced many famous and good Western painters. I think they knew more about art and their worth than some mouthbreathing neckbeard on /jp/ who doesn't know shit about art. Enjoy your butthurt gooky chink.

>> No.7827524

>>7827508
>They produced woodprinting just as Japan did.
Yeah except they also produced other kinds too.

>> No.7827526

>>7827508
>>7827502
Double posting is a surefire sigh of butthurt. You're just a weeaboo with his panties in a bunch because Japanese art was utter shit be all standards of the time.

>> No.7827529

>>7827524
No fucking shit. Holy fuck you're so smart!

>> No.7827536

>>7827523
>I'm just spewing out some cold facts.
Your "facts" have no base nor argumentation to back them up.

>> No.7827538

>>7827523
>spewing out some cold facts
Nope.avi

You're just rambling. I think you're a troll.

Van Gogh was a terrible artist.

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>>7827538
>>7827536
>>7827526
Trolled

>> No.7827543

>>7827526
You basically said nothing to refute my claims. I wonder who's butthurt here.

Japanese excelled at what they had in hand, they didn't have canvas or anything like that. All they had was woodprints, which is why I'm comparing them to Western woodprints because comparing woodprint to canvas is fucking stupid.

>> No.7827552

I like how people who have never studied art can define the value of masterpieces.

>> No.7827556

>>7827529
I'm not talking about Japan.

>> No.7827557

>>7827536
>Woodprints influenced many famous and good Western painters.
Why the fuck would that need any base or argument? A one second google would give you the same result ugh.

>> No.7827560

>>7827546
It seems that your finally out of arguments.

>> No.7827563

>>7827556
OH HE DROPPED THE BOMB AGAIN FUCK THIS GUY IS SO SMART XDDDD

>> No.7827569

ITT chinks and gooks are using Western art to rebel against Japanese art because their shit didn't do well at the time, nor did they influence Western artists.

>> No.7827572

>>7827552
Who gives shit? If it looks good, then it's good. If it looks shit, then it's shit.

>> No.7827565 [DELETED] 

>>7827552
Who gives shit? If it looks good, than it's good. If it looks shit, than it's shit.

>> No.7827573

>>7827565
>than
I sure value the opinion of a person who does not comprehend basic English highly.

>> No.7827574

>>7827543
That is all the had at the time, their fault for not using better materials.

Now name some artist that are not mentioned in anime or mange that have been inspired by japo shit.

>> No.7827576

>>7827552

Remember that story about that smug artist who lived like a hundred years ago, made a shitty painting on purpose, but called it a new art-style, and trolled the whole art society into believing it was actual art?

>> No.7827577

>>7827569
ITT japs butthurt because they did not influence any artist.

>> No.7827581

>>7827574
Damn your English is bad. I knew I was dealing with some buttravaged chinky gook.

>Now name some artist that are not mentioned in anime or mange that have been inspired by japo shit.
Hokusai.

>> No.7827584

ITT: butthurt japs and weeaboos cannot into art critique.

>> No.7827585

>>7827563
You sound frustrated.

>> No.7827586

>>7827577
>Artists who were influenced by Japanese art include Arthur Wesley Dow, Pierre Bonnard, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, Mary Cassatt, Edgar Degas, Renoir, James McNeill Whistler (Rose and silver: La princesse du pays de porcelaine, 1863-64), Monet, Vincent van Gogh, Camille Pissarro, Paul Gauguin, Bertha Lum, Will Bradley, Aubrey Beardsley, Alphonse Mucha, Gustav Klimt, the sisters Frances and Margaret Macdonald, as well as architects Edward W.Godwin, Frank Lloyd Wright, Charles Rennie Mackintosh and Stanford White, and ceramicists Edmond Lachenal and Taxile Doat. Some artists, such as Georges Ferdinand Bigot, even moved to Japan because of their fascination with Japanese art.
Keep your butttears flowing. It's almost comical.

>> No.7827593

>>7827573
lol I just owned you. How does it feel?

>> No.7827590

>>7827581
>Hokusai
Now I know your trolling, he was fucking Japanese. You're really just reading wikipedia, aren't you?

>> No.7827599

OP here. What the fuck /jp/?

>> No.7827594

>>7827586
Nice source there, jap.

>> No.7827595
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/a/ quality thread.

>> No.7827604

>>7827595
I'm pretty sure that all these posters are from /a/, even if they are from /jp/.

>> No.7827606

>>7827590
Your English is so awful that I couldn't pick up what you were trying to convey.

>You're really just reading wikipedia, aren't you?
As if knowing who Hokusai is requires one to know who's behind the wave woodprint. It's the only Japanese artist I know.

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This sure went places.

>> No.7827607

Stop talking shit about Japanese art you fucking fags, or I will report every one of you. Is this what /jp/ has come to?

>> No.7827614

>>7827595
>>7827599
>>7827600
>>7827604
Pretty sure it's the gook/chink onslaught from /int/. They spotted a thread where people were praising Japanese art, so of course their jealousy got them good and they had to try prove them wrong.

>> No.7827610

>>7827599
Happens sometimes

>> No.7827611

>>7827607
But Japanese art is shit.

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>>7827607
>Stop talking shit about Japanese art you fucking fags
lol look guies hes mad

>> No.7827621

>>7827594
Look at their paintings and compare them to Japanese art, or do a google search with their names. If you can't even do that then I'm sure you're not even qualified to comment on art. I'm not going to babysit some whiner just because he doesn't believe what people say.

>> No.7827625
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ITT: Paintings are the only kind of art.

>> No.7827626

>>7827621
>I can read some shit from the internet

If nip art was so good, then how come they are never mentioned? How come the art style is not known? It was utter shit, get over it. The only reason some western artist were into it was because it was different.

Did all of them start drawing jao art? NO. just a few.

>> No.7827623

>>7827606
His English is good(besides the few minor errors) if you are actually familiar with it.

Who are you trying to fool here, you pretentious piece of shit?

>> No.7827628

>>7827611
Reported. Fuck off and die you ignorant shit. Go back to >>>/a/v/b/

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>>7827628

>> No.7827642

/jp/ loves Japan it's the summerfags who get defensive and go all "I-it's not like I like Japanese culture! I hate Japan! S-stupid Japs!"

>> No.7827643

>>7827614
>Someone says Jap art is shit
>Japs get butthurt
Yeah I'm sure it is the jealous gook/chink!(Jap)

>> No.7827651

>>7827626
Wow, you sure told me with that childish argument of yours! Look, even I can do it http://www.designer-daily.com/hokusais-great-wave-is-everywhere-4697

Tell us in 30 seconds how many Western artists do you know then? I'll be drinking your chinky gook butttears in the meanwhile.

>> No.7827655

>>7827642
>/jp/ loves Japan
We don't. Some of us may love it, but most just don't give a fuck about anything apart from anime-styled otaku culture.
>>7827643
Nice greentext bro

>> No.7827658

>>7827625
Europe and middle east had bigger and higher buildings and more advanced styles. Only thing that Japanese did well was construction that was supposed to work against earthquakes.

>> No.7827654

>>7827643
Pretty sure it is because no normal person would walk into a thread and make an inflammatory comment just to rile people up.

>> No.7827663

>>7827621
First of all, all asian art is pretty similiar, so saying all those artists were influenced by only japanese art is pretty biased.

>> No.7827677

>>7827651
>Wow, you sure told me with that childish argument of yours!
>I'll be drinking your chinky gook butttears in the meanwhile.
Lol.

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>>7827569
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>> No.7827695

>>7827680
Yes, it is your post.

>> No.7827708

You see guys, this is what you get when you complain that threads need more discussion than image dumping.

>> No.7828257

I love the direction this thread took. Keep on trolling guys, I'm enjoying this greatly.

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