Haven and Hearth - Part 8

[Anonymous No.]

Continued from >>7709861
Newbies:
In the character creation room, go to the guy in the corner and right-click him. He'll ask you for a hearth secret; enter 'Secobi'. A set of stairs to Hinamizawa, the /jp/ village will then appear in the corner. It is recommended you read some beginner's guides when starting.

Wiki: http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Haven_and_Hearth_Wiki
Map: http://algeralith.info/HavenMap/?x=14&y=120&zoom=9

Watch out for the raiders.

[Doud No.]

>>7762635
Hinamizawa is pretty fucked at the moment. Lots of people dead, inside is basically void of items.
From what I can figure it is spill over from Sodom/Pandemonium raiding Silk Road, or the noobs pissed someone off by leaving theft scents.

Either way the area is not safe. For those who are still going to play avoid the area for now.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did you guys get raided?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762731
I am truly sorry for your lots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762731
At this point it seems kind of stupid to keep joining /jp/'s villages. I'm going to keep playing but from now on I'll try to stay as far away from you people as possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762731
>Pandemonium
If that's the case, yeah, you're pretty much fucked. As far as I know, they're the second most powerful faction, after RUA.

I wonder what Silk Road did to piss off Pandemonium, though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762951
beeing members of the RUA

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763026
Silk Road was RUA? That's odd, they were friendly towards Hinamizawa when we were starting out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762951
They didn't, they were just collateral damage from what I understand.

[Anonymous No.]

Not playing, but is the world map so small that you guys can't find a proper location where no one else is close by?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7762731
>jp meet up.jpg

Oh Doud, never change

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like it's over then. Didn't actually play, but seeing Hinamizawa syndrome take over the town then having it be ruined by an outside force was pretty entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763043
It's possible, for example when living in a cave. But raiders travel around and will strike anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Come to Mayohiga~ Current population 1... and 5 bots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763110

I might consider joining your army of bots, but I am not exactly fond of java (or groovy). Maybe throw jython in there or just ditch the baggage of the standard client in the first place.

However, I do not have any way to contact you. hs FIOC

[Admon No.]

Well fuck raiders got me, first at riverend now right outside the village. Pande raiders are roaming the outside of the village.

Everyone whos still playing stay safe

[Anonymous No.]

The /jp/ villages took it too easy and failed; only those who prepare and plan properly deserve to take it easy.

Now off to another world where your self-indulgences may take on new forms so you all may learn yet another lesson!

The love here is over.

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are still playing this game? I also wonder why meido doesn't delete these threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Question: Is server havenandhearth.com down?

I get connection refused which crashes my client with missing resources.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763447
probably because the meido plays/played HnH, we'll see if they start getting deleted here soon though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763447
Why would he? Sure, the threads aren't on topic, but one off topic thread with decent posters isn't going to ruin the board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763581
No, but neither would two. May as well go to three, and when we're /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763581
Countless good threads have been deleted for being "off topic".
Why should this be any different?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763480
I can't reach the website, and the minimap isn't loading all layers. I think something is wrong with the server.

[Anonymous No.]

What hapened to Aokigahara?
I left about 3 weeks ago, shit turned boring pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763725
Everyone is dead and the village is abandoned.

You didnt miss a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>First /jp/ village Raid
Status: Alive
>Aokigahara Raid
Status: Alive
>Mayohiga's Drama
Status: Alive
>Hinamizawa's Raid
Status: Alive

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764214
Drama at Mayohiga? The only thing we know about them is that they exist, how do we know there's drama going on over there?

[None !GoodGIr1f2 No.]

Who keeps leaving all those boats parked in front of Aokigahara anyways?

[Anonymous No.]

Well, i just went back to my old village, if you guys decide to start again just give me a call and i'll village port.
On the other hand, you could build it near my old village, it beeing a peacefull major faction, the SG were it is located is pretty safe. Talk it out, and if you want, destroy your heart fire and ill just give you a port to the area.

[Nieght No.]

>>7764775
Im Nieght by the way.

[Sec No.]

>>7764782
lemme know where that's at so I can move my hearth fire and secret

[Anonymous No.]

Raided again?
Village totems are sure to bring raiders eventually.
I've been living near Silkroad a while before the first /jp/ village raid and no one has ever attacked me.
The worst that happened was that a guy stole some skins but that's all. I've even raided some guys with no negative consequences.

Actually, it's been quite boring but that's the life of a hermit, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

Took 2 days of doing clay / brick runs and about 3 and a half hours of building the wall itself. Finally done though. Burned through a good amount of tobacco to going in and out too.

If /jp/ village needs anything after the recent raids let me know. I might be able to help out. Hermit life is nice and quiet.

[Anonymous No.]

Took 2 days of clay / brick runs and 3 and a half hours of actually building the wall itself. Finally done.

If /jp/ village needs anything after the recent raids, I might be able to help. Nice and quiet as a hermit here.

(reuploaded a smaller screenshot)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764919
how big of an area you can claim in this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764937
As big as you can afford with LPs

[Anonymous No.]

>>7764214

Haha, what a coincidence. Me too.

Though I has been raped so much in my entire existence.

Nobody likes used goods ;_; Now I am alone. Well, I can bake delicious things with 95 cooking.

[Anonymous No.]

I like how i moved up the food chain without lifting a finger.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw i live by the river and I'm completely fine

[Anonymous No.]

Is the server up? I can't seem to play, the world doesn't load.

[None !GoodGIr1f2 No.]

>>7765434
From what I hear on the global chat, there are parts of the world that work and parts that don't. Depends on where you're located at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7765472
Hinamizawa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7765434
You mean the game freezes when you log in? That's a major bug caused by the web server being unreachable through HTTP (it's reachable through HTTPS). If you know how to do Java, you can fix it by downloading Ender's source code, using all .jars except haven.jar from Ender's client folder as libraries, commenting out the two files that don't compile and the statements referencing those files, changing the server URL from http://etc to https://etc in Config and Music, and then working around the basic errors you'll get after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7765704
Oh, forgot to mention, you also need to put the .DLLs in the right folder (depends on what your IDE uses as base folder).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7765704
>>7765710
Crappy fix: Replace your haven.jar with the one in http://www.mediafire.com/?ae5wksw4mu005yy
Make sure to back up the original haven.jar and revert to the original once the webserver works correctly again.

[Anonymous No.]

Webserver back up.

[Anonymous No.]

>2 layers of bricks + palisade
>aurochsen still get inside to eat planted grass in the middle of a clay node

[Anonymous No.]

Reminds me of Suicide Island.

[Anonymous No.]

Where the fuck is everyone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771504
>take /jp/ stairs
>reading beginner guide
>learn fishing
>make rod
>spend 35 mins finding a string bush on ground
>walk west until worlds ends
>still no chickens/rats
>very hungry at 99%
>thorn in foot KO's me and health goes down, VERY, VERY SLOWLY
>eat string, does nothing
>still no chickens/rats, but I find another string
>die from thorns
>never again will I attempt this shitty game

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771504
Still hermiting at the same place as usual, although I've been going around looting nearby places lately. I need a crossroads sign for better mobility, Hinamizawa is still too far (currently slightly above 50 AGI, need slightly above 80 AGI for Hinamizawa).

[Anonymous No.]

Doud is a nigger faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771517
You can't be serious.

[None !GoodGIr1f2 No.]

>>7771517
Sounds like someone didn't actually read the beginner's guide.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771803
Sounds like the kind of person we don't even want to join.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771995

this is why you seal your cornerposts

[Anonymous No.]

Problem solved. Time to grab my combat gear...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772107
Remember: if you die there's no way to enter in the house anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772183
Uh, bullshit? My hearth fire is in the house.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772199
Sir, if you die your hf means shit.

[None !GoodGIr1f2 No.]

>>7772259
Descendants spawn at their ancestor's hearthfire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772107

Wow. Some guy uses your unsealed posts to build a ram on your wall and then forgets to seal his posts? I'm not sure which one is more stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772107
dia nigga...

[Anonymous No.]

Sure is quiet in Hinamizawa. Did everyone who died stop playing?

[Anonymous No.]

Suddenly my main is missing from my character list. Could've known >>7772107 wouldn't solve the problem; if he's going to ram my brick wall, he's probably a palibasher anyways. Unfortunately I'll be too busy tomorrow to check it...oh well. If >>7757799 is correct, at least the culprit destroyed most of the potential loot in order to get to me. Still unfortunate that he got my Merchant's Robe as a reward, though.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally found my first cave troll. Survived for all of 10 seconds before he caught up to me and one-hit-KO'd me. Then he kept going until I was dead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7779650
So, how does it appear? Does it appear right in front of you when mining a tile? Does it spawn somewhere else? Does it run faster than you?

[Anonymous No.]

This game is fun, I've been playing it with my friend before, until someone raided our asses.

Ironically, we found their hideout and stole it back because they didn't finish contstructing their walls.

Too bad that everything went to shit when some russians barged in and murdered everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

I produce so much wine it's pouring out of my ears, I don't have enough bottles to put it and I have to drink it because I already have too much vinegar (and I am a cook), I teleport for everything. I don't know how they could have issue making wine in Hinamizawa. It's cool being a lawspeaker, making crossroads everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7780357

Put it in buckets.

It isn't hard to do, but only one person ever made wine and only twice. The first batch turned into vinegar so another week to get more, thus problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7780357
I suspect that the difference is that in your case, you have one person making wine for one person's use, rather than one person making wine for 10 persons' use.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone on right now?

[Anonymous No.]

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

You guys really sound like you fucked up bad. NEVER BUILD NEAR A RIVER.


NEVER BUILD NEAR ROADS.


TRY TO STAY 5 OR MORE SCREENS AWAY FROM OTHER VILLAGES.

The more landlocked you are the better chance you have of not being detected. Sitting near other villages and expecting goodwill is a stupid fucking way to play and you deserve every bit of destruction that has befallen you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7772107
There is no excuse for you NOT having a key alt and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Carrying a key is pretty much like giving your enemy the key to your castle if you die. Don't fucking do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7771517
You can spawn new characters and steal their bread. Play smart.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a village up that isn't going to total shit? Or has every village attempt you guys have tried ended up badly?

[Mishra No.]

>>7782582
Except you know, I don't die until they're already broken in, and when I've died I've already lost everything. More importantly, the keychain did not have all of the keys - most importantly, I never carry the outer wall key with me unless I need to pull a cart out of my area, and even then I put it back. The only thing one would get by killing me and stealing my keys would be my little workshop in the mine - which is nearly unreachable without the crossroads in the center of my area, and you'll have a hard time finding it at all even with the crossroads.

Anyways, it's a moot point now, since they've broken in, killed me and in the process destroyed the house the hearth fire was in, so I've lost everything anyways.

Anyways, if you guys start a new village, let me hear about it, I want to join a village but I don't really like Hinamizawa. If nobody else is starting a new village, I'll start a new one myself once I get my hands on enough bear teeth and deer antlers again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7783246

My cupboards full of them are gone, but I can go find some deer and a bear if you need help.

[Freya !!HOXh7ZbkfvE No.]

>>7783363
Wow.. nice to see other still playing this game.
Even if i only log on for 30 min a week now.

nice having a group of 3 other randoms ive never seen but know they play, there farms get done. cows are milked and they are great to feed me...

and no i will never let anyone know where i am on freya, or my unnamed alt...

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>7786177
To answer your question from the other thread

What town? You obviously know the fate of Aokigahara. I went to Hinamizawa but promptly left to do up the hermit way, then pretty much stopped playing a bit before C80

[Anonymous No.]

looks like an ultima online sort of game. but this has village building? cool. i might give it a try

[Anonymous No.]

>>7786200
>>7786177

Come to Mayohiga ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>7786491
I would if I knew where it was

[Anonymous No.]

I have 4 deer antlers and 8 bear teeth for anyone that wants to start a village.

hs jpsies

[clan No.]

>>7762731
ha, i see my skeleton in there. having a bonfire over the dead? also i thought Sec left the village, did he come back?

[Freya !!HOXh7ZbkfvE No.]

>>7786200
Ah, didnt know you left Hinamizawa

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>7789441
Near a river and a high key village wasn't my idea of a safe place considering the fate of my last village.

[Anonymous No.]

Im building a village idol at my old hermit place, far away enough from a major village to evoid beeing targeted by other major factions, but close enough to enjoy their police work, i spent today ranging the area, and i haven't seen any scents around the rivers. and the only vandalize one i found (on a node) was already dead.
Its placed on a q40 clay node, so we can manage to build a small brick wall fairly quicly. I'll report when its done and everyone can decide if they want to try gain.
(Also, i already have a wine production flowing, so we can build a big pali for everyone, and a brickwall where we can hide).
Dont give up guys, w6 wont come until they release Salem the 12/12/2012.

[Anonymous No.]

Server goes down in the most inappropiate time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7791637
What are you talking about, it's to fix the glitched partys

[Anonymous No.]

>>7791668

;_; I play by myself, I never noticed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7790517

We have something like 1000 bricks right now. I managed to set up kilns and do maybe 700 in a few hours. With a couple of other people helping I could see 500-1000 in an hour and then having to wait for the node to refresh or move to a different one. Transporting clay does not take up much of that estimate (with a bit of setup).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7791684
So, what's your location if I may ask?

[Anonymous No.]

NEET BUMPHERE

[Anonymous No.]

Farming is a pain even with bots and macros.

That's why I wanted to be the little cook. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>7794870
Make a contract with us and become a raider girl.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having a bit of a problem. When I log on I only see a black screen. Sometimes if I quit and try again it works, but this takes many tries and it only occasionally works. It's only for that one character so I made a new account and the alt sees my old character standing there and even moving around if I click around, but I still can't see anything on his window. I tried with and without using ender client but I get a black screen for both. It's been like this for a couple days and started happening after the server crash so could that have done it?

[Anonymous No.]

There is a few of us starting a new village.
Short of deer antlers? Anyone able to supply like 3antlers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7797270
I don't have antlers, but where are you? Currently hermiting and character is relatively new, so I might want to join you.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCKING HERMITS

[Anonymous No.]

>>7794870
Can you share them? Its even worse without them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7797270

I have antlers and teeth. hs is jpsies still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7797584

If you sprint you can get out of walls. You just found a way inside their village, congrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7797270

I have antlers and teeth as well. I can also provide you guys with some wine for getting in and out if needed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7796306
How do I fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7799100
Wish I knew the fucking answer to that because it's one of the reasons I stopped playing. Had to keep eating Travel Weariness due to having to port to my hf because of that shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7799186
Don't know if it's the same problem, but when I get out of my house, sometimes I see a black screen but the game is not frozen, so I have to re log in order to fix it.
Once I log back, I find myself several tiles away from the entrance. I guess it's just a display error, although idk if it's the same problem you guys have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7799212
Completely separate issue

[Lynn No.]

>>7799186
>>7799212
>>7799100
Just change the camera type,than go back to your favorite type.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7799228
>broken english
yep, it's lynn

[Anonymous No.]

>>7796306

http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=21573

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to visit Mayohiga. Do you have a hearth secret or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7797371
>>7798564
Just got antlers from >>7798253
HS is cookingpastarice. Talk to me if you are interested in joining.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, so I'm at the hearthfire. In which direction should I travel?

[Anonymous No.]

Let's take bets on how long it takes for Russians to find and sack the newest city.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7799701
I'd love to talk to you, but you're always offline whenever I'm online.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7801489
Joke on you.
The village isnt up yet. Gonna set up the brickwall first.

>>7801896
I am online now.

[Anonymous No.]

>15 minutes of hunting

WHY CANT I HOLD ALL THESE CARCASSES

[Anonymous No.]

>15 minutes of hunting

WHY CANT I HOLD ALL THESE MEAT

[Anonymous No.]

>come home see this wat do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805410
What the hell happened there? Did the little girls locked in the basement try to escape?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone on right now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805640

I'm online currently, not part of any /jp/ village though. Just a hermit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805653
Ah. Well, I'm trying to figure out how not to starve to death. I'm in a coniferous forest with no animals around, and I have no idea what I should be doing except "wander around and hope I find some trees with fruit on them".

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805662

Travel until you find a broad-leaf forest. Spindly taproot can be eaten as well, those can be found in any forest. You could also find rats and make Rat on a Stick since it's nighttime. Be careful though because they give Hurt FEPs (5 HHP), but it's better than starving to death.

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>7805668
Don't forget he needs to learn hunting, and foraging. Keep on a lookout for rabbits and chickens as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805662

Where did you start? Set a hearthsecret and post it so we can talk to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805668
>>7805669
Can you eat toads?

[Voile's other Hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

>>7805675
No you can't, only used for curiosities really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805674
I just set it to Morningstar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805662
Get fishing, foraging and hunting.
Put all your stats into exploration.
Study cone 24/7.
Go fishing once you can make a bone hook(kill a rabbit) and string(spindly root).

If you started with Secobi go ask for help.

[Anonymous No.]

I also highly recommend reading this.
http://www.havenandhearth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19114

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805687
Yeah, that's a much better guide than the other one. Thanks for the link.

[Anonymous No.]

Ein, if you manage to find a village with a unique name or some kind of landmark I might be able to get a teleport to near you, but other than that all I can do it give you advice whenever I'm on. Traveling around who knows how far without even the map working is too bothersome.

[Anonymous No.]

>off in the middle of nowhere
>see kinned skeleton
>take screenshot to post
>name doesn't show up
>cannot be assed to walk back

[Anonymous No.]

Guys how do you even starve? All you need is to find a rabbit, and turn its bone into a hook. Walk with hidden trees, that should make it easier for you.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, buy hunting and raid anthills. You dont even need a boat to confuse them with water, just raid the hill, make them follow you, walk into a river as far as you can without swimming. The ants will get really close to you, but will confuse just before attacking you, leaving the hill safe to raid. Just dont eat ant empress or queens.
Also, broadleaf and conifer forest usually change when travelling south or north.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7805899
>spiderk

[Anonymous No.]

So free Wild server Wurm but isometric? Seems pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.]

Because Rance Quest and Dues Ex.

Why are you guys still playing his shitty game when you could just play Age of Empires online?

[Anonymous No.]

SAVING FROM THE DEPTHS OF OBLIVION

[Anonymous No.]

>>7810734
no