Big Bang Beat Revolve: General

[Anonymous No.]

Alright. So Comiket is over, and Big Bang Beat Revolve is still nowhere to be seen.
As they say, patience is key. Should appear sometime, and the game might be prone to patching either way.

However, with the event over, and with nico douga being full of gameplay videos, it is clear that lots of Japanese got it.

The demo; for anyone who might want to catch a glimpse of it.
http://aja-games.com/download/BBBR_web_v01.zip

[Anonymous No.]

Senna is my waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746255
This thread needs more Kunagi.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder when Kamui is going to be patched in.
He was shown in early development, but haven't been mentioned since.
Oh, and netplay, they better bring over netplay fast.

But well. If they add the things as they say, it might become great.

[Anonymous No.]

kunagi and senna are quite possibly two of the best fighting game females ever created(yeah, they're eroge characters).

if only one of them actually had breasts. no, senna's don't count in my book.

i'll probably be maining one of them so long as they're good enough. not like there's anyone for me to play with.

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of liked Kunagi's old voice set better. This one seems to have lost a bit of its personality/fierceness. It's a pity when producers insist on making new voices(Blazblue... Baiken in GG), although I might be the only one that feels that way.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

How's the gameplay? Is Aja keeping up the standards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746296
>Is Aja keeping up the standards?
I must say I was worried at first. Aja, have never made a fighting game before after all.

But I must say, the latest demo certainly feels like a fighting game, and it still has a feel of BBB to it. If they continue to patch it as they are supposed to, and don't fuck it up as the original developers did, I could see this grow to become great.

I don't really know anythjing about the full game though. But from what I have found, it seems as if there are some minor bugs around, but it doesn't look that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

If only this game had MB level of support and funds behind it.

The characters are all great, and there is plenty to expand upon for quite a while without it becoming too extorted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746383
Kunagi looks like a chain smoker grandma in this picture.

And Senna looks like 15.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746406
Well, good thing they don't look like that in game then.
It was just a homeage to the Touhouvania games, of which Frontier Aya also make, and well, is what made Frontier Aya big.

[Anonymous No.]

They have my love for adding Erika to the game.
I always loved her in Daibanchou, and found it to be a shame she couldn't do better on the romancing front.
Together from the beginning in the school chapter. Somewhat similair backgrounds. An overall lovely girl who basically wanted to do what Ryouga had in mind, even if they had never met.

Instead, he borderline NTRs Heita.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if Ren will get a standing overhead or reliable pressure or tools to make him fun outside of doing assbillions of damage and having big normals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746470
He is one of the 5 in the demo. You could try it, for all its worth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746460
Eri is love.

[Anonymous No.]

What the hell happened to the B dashes? They made combos so fun and freeform, are they gone or some horrible shit? I can't seem to do anything but supers now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746319
You do realize these are mostly the same people who worked on the first game, right? NRF made Big Bang Beat, NRF split up into NRF and Aja, NRF made that shitty fighter Million Knights Vermillion, Aja made BBB2.

I tend to think that all the talent went to Aja.

[Anonymous No.]

As long as Burai is still in, I'll be happy. Best boxing character ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Why won't anyone upload the full game

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746460
To be fair, he NTRs pretty much everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Hopefully they come out with a patch soon. So far Burai and Senna have infinites, and Rouga is just a bit too high in the damage department with his dash cancel ability. Oh and netplay of course, can't go without that either. What kind of abilities do you think Kamui will have?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15319535

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746633
>What the hell happened to the B dashes?
Ryouga have them.

I agree that they were a great feature in BBB1, and contributed alot to the game's unique feel.
But the later patches really threw that thing way out of hand, and by the final version of the game the B-Dashes were among the most broken feature in the game, a game that had grown to become exceedingly broken.
I don't hold it against Aya trying a new approach.

But that said. Ryouga as mentioned still have them.
Otherwise, the D button now seems to be a lot more character specific.
Senna can heal herself with it.
Kunagi can charge power with it.
Ryouga cancels with it.
Burai does his dodge things with it.
And so on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746683
Any idea what Ren does with it? I'm not noticing a single thing. Without jH groundbounce or 623M~B-dash pickups I really don't know how I'm supposed to get appreciable damage anymore.
Cinderblock being an overhead is pretty good seeing as how I can actually combo off of it, but I seem to cap off at like 2k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746682
>So far Burai and Senna have infinites
While a problem, indeed. The mechanics still seem to make it not as awful as it could be.
Burai's infinite in particular, some time after the 1600 mark he simply keeps doing 1 damage with those punches. Overall, the combo is quite weak, though you can of course stall with it if you are already in the lead and aim for a time over, which would be rather awful.

But I trust them to fix that in the next patch.

[Anonymous No.]

Almost every character has time-wasting infinites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=By17QBwnwEc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCDhXS8sLGM

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746651
>NRF split up into NRF and Aja
Oh. That, actually explains a lot.
It also explains why Million Knights Vermillion sucked, and Aja managed to make such good games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746683
And Ryouga has easy 5k combos because of it while most other characters are topping off around 2.5k-3k.

The infinites will probably be removed, but its harder to approach a plain ridiculous mechanic.

[Anonymous No.]

Some kind of burst mechanic could "fix" all those infinites.
Especially if being beaten up for one damage all the time could give you power usable for bursting.

But coming up with ways to cope with infinites is probably the wrong way to go considering how one should beat infinites altogether as one doesn't want them in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746720
Things like that are easy to fix. Just add a deadfall when scaling >99% or whatever. The bigger problem is Rouga's absurdly high damage, especially with moronic things that really shouldn't combo, even with his cancels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHuHS8nV34k

That's also not too hard to nerf either though without massively changing his game. Just change that super to fill the bar instead of giving unlimited and add some scaling.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746748
Well for defensive abilities, this game has guard cancels and it does have a burst mechanic, though I don't know how much meter gain you would get off of something like burai's inifinite or rouga's dash cancel madness. I guess just use that meter wisely

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746752
Ah, that combo. Yeah, such things are really no good.
Unlike the other comboes, this one is actually fatal.

Though, while a considerable error, you need a maxed out meter to start the combo. Though, yeah.
But I still like the feel of the game, even if it needs some work in its early stages.

[Anonymous No.]

What Examu and Arc System Works does against stuff like this, is how they prorate the hitstun from the attacks in a combo.

Being hit by Heavy Attack X, might stun someone for 0.6 seconds. If, you use Heavy Attack X again in the same combo though, the hit stun might perhaps only be 0.4 seconds, and once again after that i could be 0.2 or something.
Efficiently meaning that eventually, the opponent have gets the oppurtunity to jump out.

And of course, with the right settings this mechanic can be subtle, if needed.
Though, I am not sure how it could affect the feel of this game. Supposedly, for the better, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

The infinites are at least not easy to execute. Of course with the exception of Erika's, but that one is also conveniently the worst one.

[Anonymous No.]

So does Ren just not have a special mechanic aside from kill they fucking ass?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746866
There is a burst mechanic but I believe it takes up 2-3 super bars
>>7746748
She doesn't have an ability but her dash is the short hop used for cross ups and she has assists. I assume those are supposed to "replace "it for now

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746872
I think you got your posts reversed, and got Erika confused with Ren somehow.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh Kunagi. Forever adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

Has there been any note on how Mecha Heita plays? I assume he's just a recolored version of the Ex-Super Heita from BBB1, but if they reworked him ala Hisui vs Mech Hisui, that could be interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

god damnit where is it

[Anonymous No.]

Why another fighting game based on Daibanchou instead of Rance?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7746900
I slash at thee, wolf creature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747586
It's probably because the power balance in Rance is far from balanced. BBA makes more sense.

[Anonymous No.]

I want Gou!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747586
>Why X instead of Rance? Waaaah.
Don'tcha love R/a/nce fans?

[Anonymous No.]

Interesting. It's not marked in the move lists, but Miyazato's chain grab can be chained straight into a throw with 4C that does almost as much damage as canceling it into a super. Works on both the guard break and non versions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747607
Yeah, you're probably right. But I've been hoping that NRF switches to the Ranceverse since Big Bang Beat was announced. One can still hope. I want to main Patton.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't really know why. But somehow, I had a feeling that Kaen would make it into the game somehow. The moment I saw Kamui I thought, eventually they will add her as well.

Now that was certainly wishful thinking based on little to nothing. But I still wonder, if someday...
Perhaps if it becomes a long running series like Melty Blood.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747656
Holy shit, her grab is now like 300 times more useful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747681
Get out of here Sud-

Oh, nevermind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747666
>Patton
You would need a whole bunch of characters like Bird and shit.
Generally I don't think Rance is as suitable for a fighter, even disregarding the varying power levels of that setting.

Daibanchou was played out by super powered people, brawling things out. And it was for most part also played out locally and not over large regions, even though it did its share of that as well.

But you know, facts like how all the characters in Daibanchou are in one way or another related to the same conflict, for a fighting game I really do believe that's a lot better than people who at one time or another might have met Rance or Sill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747671
So far its only District arc characters. I think they only added Erika & Kinako because they're the "opposing" characters to the sisters and Burai in BBA.

Would be nice to see some of my favorite national arc characters, but I'm not expecting anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747681
Unrelated but you look like you're from /a/. Please get out

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747706
It's not like there's any shortage of characters that would make great fighters in National. I do hope if they do keep expanding, it's in that direction instead of the rest of the School/District characters. I love Nanana and Aya, but I'd much rather see characters like Camilla and Shizuri.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this have netplay? I have been waiting for a BBB game with netplay since the original :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>7747864
It's getting patched in later.

[Anonymous No.]

very hard to believe aja has made the decisions it's made.

they are asking for a ton of faith from their fans. this product does not seem worth the money in and of itself at the moment. i don't know about others, but i'm not really one to waste my money on promises which don't legally need to be fulfilled.

they must have been rather desperate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748102
>they must have been rather desperate.
Come on, its not that bad. Still feels a lot more fluid than what capcom might pull off, and that StreetfighterXTekken thing almost looks like a joke.

I bet Aja simply didn't want to miss Summer Comiket, considering it being much bigger and more popular than winter comiket which would most likely be the next set release date.
07th expansion have/are updating Ougon monthly, that's worthy of respect in a sense.

I don't think its fully fair to go with the attitude that it is not worth anything just because of it being released a bit premature. Given, they actually do update it reguarly that is.
The game itself is only roughly $20-$25 after all, and it really isn't like buying say, SF4 or MvC3 where you buy the game, without ever getting any updates, and is then expected to buy slightly updated version for full retail price 6 months afterwards.
Then again, might not be fair comparing them to Capcom, considering how Capcom is basically the worst offender in the field, and overall not that great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748298
I must admit though. The lack of netplay is grating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748313
It is, but it's still a doujin game so it's not really that surprising. Maybe it'll motivate someone to throw together a Caster or something. Better than complete shit netplay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748298
don't get me wrong, i like the game.

what i meant is that asking your customers to "trust you" to update the game to something worth playing is not really acceptable business practice. regardless of whether it isn't "that bad" as framework for a game, the chance that this game would last if something were to happen to aja right now is nigh 0. people buying the game for what it's going to be would then have not received the product they intended to pay money for(regardless of whether that's foolish on their part or not).

if you disagree and think this is acceptable business practice, i don't really have anything left to say. granted, none of this matters if it becomes a complete game, and doujins are a somewhat different beast than professional work.

in any case, i'm not really so upset about it as i am surprised that they released the game without the netplay and characters they'd been advertising. it doesn't seem unlikely that they wanted to make summer comiket, but i'd also have to postulate that by releasing the game in the state it's in that they're more likely to decrease overall sales(via negative word of mouth(no netplay, infinites, etc; information like that tends to stick around for awhile and influence people even after patches)) than increase them. it seems like something they'd only do if they had a short-term necessity.

tl;dr i didn't mean it was awful. i meant that they've advertised a lot more than they've put in, and i find that surprising both because promises are bad business and because they're creating negative information about the game("character X is not in," "no netplay," "infinites," etc.), killing their ability to capitalize on first impressions(no pun intended) and launch word of mouth.

so, it seems like either a very nearsighted decision or one made out of necessity.

[SoNyuhGamer !pJDarkFQkg No.]

Its really not uploaded anywhere yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748480
>or one made out of necessity.
One possibility could be that they need to pay the voice actors etc some time between Summer and Winter, and thus were required to sell it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748514
that doesn't seem unlikely.

i don't know if it's changed in the full release or not, but in the demo, kunagi's fight intro is actually the same sound clip as her 214a("tsuite koreru ka?"). it seemed like a filler, so perhaps they were still recording at that point? pure speculation of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748538
421a, i meant.

in any case, hope they release a patch soon. also hope that sanzou isn't quite so powerful this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7748538
It really seems like they were working against the deadline. The manual doesn't even have the BB Supers up for anybody but characters in the trial.

[vinson77 No.]

Any kind soul who has a copy of BBB:R to share it with us? :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7749005
All the other games are being overshadowed by TD and Grief Syndrome. Still waiting on at least Freesia, BBBR, Edelweiss Perfect, Code-R's trial, Territoire's updated trial, Ys Youmu updated trial, etc...

[Anonymous No.]

This thread needs more love.

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody else find it funny that Rouga has a unique intro with every single character in the trial (his one with Erika is obviously the generic one) and the only one besides him is Kunagi vs Senna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7749057
Indeed it does~ I hope someone ups it soon.

[Anonymous No.]

God damnit, when are the 11s gonna upload it already?


has anyone tried checking Share? I don't have it installed on this PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7749569
I don't have it either. I might get it though as I've been checking constantly for a link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7749569
Got it setup now and no it's not on Share yet sadly.

[Anonymous No.]

What is the difference between the normal and the limited edition version of the game?

[Anonymous No.]

Big Bang Beat vs Arcana Heart
One can alwayrs dream, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750152
i actually think KOF probably fits best with BBB among all the fighters in existence. if KOF had similar origins it would be a perfect match.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder wha the niconico people's stance are on uploading the game.
I believe it was one of them who uploaded Ougon when it was released.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750459
niconico seems to be viciously against pirating of all forms. every video suspected of pirating that i've seen gets spammed without any negative comments against the spammers whatsoever.

japanese otaku in general encourage each other to have a spending philosophy, as far as i understand. that's why you hear things like figures>food.

that being said, they have to act that way in order to preserve a productive community like they have, and that says nothing about what they do on their own. it would be interesting to test it, but i wouldn't be surprised if they were mostly law-abiding since, to my knowledge, their government/laws are much more serious in regards to pirating than ours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750152
I'll pay for AH vs. VanPri, thank you very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750121
>and the limited edition version of the game?
>limited edition
Paletweb only have one. But this sounds interesting. Anywhere it can be bought?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750528
>>7750152
If we are talking about crossovers, I always thought BBB vs MB was the obvious idea.

Both being doujin games adapted from settings with vampires and crazy shit like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750587
i don't really think the cast of either game matches up well with bbb's.

i mentioned kof earlier because i see a lot of similarities in between the cast. rouga is much closer to characters like iori and kyo than characters in pretty much any other game, for example. you could compare heita to shingo, yamazaki to agito/ren, etc. the general attitude of the games is also similar.

mb may share some cliches like vampires, but i don't think the spirit of the series or its characters are really the same at all. i don't think it would mesh well with blazblue. guilty gear might be interesting. i think SF would be awkward.

would be nice if it would come out soon so i can stop being tempted to talk about pointless things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750820
Daibanchou was a bit heavy on the whole demon thing though.
A theme it has in common with Tsukihime.

And both with factions and orginizations made out to either preserve/prevent/protect against such threats, and hunters made to erradicate them altogether.
Like the Church and Tohno family of Tsukihime, or the clones of Senna or the little group pulled together by Ryouga's ancestors.

The people of the two universes also gets their powers in similair ways, even though B-Stones don't exist in the Nasuverse.
But sure, it might just be me, and they are different settings in the end anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

You know his name is Rouga, not Ryouga, right?

[Anonymous No.]

Waiting warmly.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing the demo is not enough, I require the full game.

Come on elevens!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752411
>elevens!
When did people start with this? But oh whatever, I don't want to shit up the thread discussing it.

But I am waiting patiently for the Nakanishi Sisters, Heita/MechaHeita and Burai.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone tell me the characters in the roster this time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752833
Rouga
Kunagi
Senna
Heita
Ren
Sanzou
Agito
Burai
Nakanishi sisters
Daigo
Kinako
Erika&goons
Manbou
Hanny
Devil Daigo
Mecha Heita

And Kamui was shown in promotional material. I don't know if he is in the story mode and is unlockable or something, or if he is simply to be patched in. Considering I haven't seen him I would say he isn't in yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752833
http://bigbangbeat.wikia.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752833
Zanma Rouga
Tenrou Kunagi
Kyoudou Senna
Jinnai Heita
Nakanishi Sisters
Yamizaki Akito
Hotta Daigo
Kongomarou Sanzou
Idagawa Ren
Haniwa
Manbou
Mecha-Heita
Devil Daigo
Miyazato Erika
Tsukiyomi Kinako
Kamui

Mecha-Heita is probably a rebalanced version of the selectable Super Heita from the first game (which was different from Heita's Enhance version). Devil Daigo's probably also rebalanced a lot. Kamui was shown early but hasn't been in anything recently so he's assumably the last boss and may or may not be playable. Kojurou is also a bonus if you use Random Select that has some kind of effect by possessing a character, but they haven't said what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752896
Fuck, forgot Yamamoto Burai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7750970
I'd rather they get more characters from BBA.

[Anonymous No.]

Got to come clean, I wasn't too hyped during the production phase, but now that it's out I'm just as itching to play the game as much as you guys.

With that said, with BBBR released, will this prompt Alicesoft to return and expand the Daibanchou universe? It would be nice to get a fandisc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752920
I'd say it's "close to impossible" given the original game's age and the fact the Dai series has only had "Spiritual sequels". But believe me, I know I've dreamt of it at least once after experiencing Daiteikoku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752891
>>http://bigbangbeat.wikia.com/
>Her name is written as 宮里絵梨花 (read as Miyazato Erika) in Big Bang Age, and she was initially introduced in trial builds under the same name, however the manual and character select screen write her name as 宮里軍団 (read as Miyazato Gundan). Gundan is a title given to someone in service to a force or army.
I thought "Gundan" referenced the whole group, considering they are basically some kind of mini vigilante group. Isn't that relatively straight forward?
Erika is Miyazato Erika, Eri of the Chain. And together they are Miyazato Gundan, their little group of vigilante troops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752938
I doubt they will either. If they did return to either of the Dai games, it'd probably be Daiakuji since that was the far more profitable and wellknown of the two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752960
That would be more upsetting than no sequel to Daibanchou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752948
>Isn't that relatively straight forward?
Pretty much so. I haven't tried out her combos yet though. It would of been nice to mention damage IMO. So I'll have to see for myself.

Sure hope a copy gets uploaded soon. As well as the netplay patch, howeber, with all the bugs and infinites found so far it'll likely take a while i guess.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

What characters are on your wish list for the next BBB game/patch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753022
For perhaps obvious reasons I do like the heroines. And although she isn't my favorite, the game doesn't have a ninja like practically every fighter has nowadays, and Sae could solve that. But even among the heroines I would rather have Kaen.

But to be realistic and not go for national stage characters.
I believe I would say Nanana and Aya.
But really, they should make an exception and simply let in Kuga Kyouichirou already, despite being introduced a bit late. He is basically the best friend of Protagonist and have deep relations with most of the main cast. Not to be speaking of how his shadow shit easily works in a fighting game.
So if I have to choose one, I might say him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7752948
Yes, the translator is a bit off his rocker, I think. Gundan refers to a military group, not a title for a person.

>>7753022
I thought it was pretty much a given that Kamui would be the only character left to be added to the game.

Personally, rather than more characters I would vastly prefer more normals for each character, but that's almost undoubtedly not going to happen.

[Anonymous No.]

The game's definitely out at least, although most of the uploaded videos are "lol infinites" or "lol glitches." The Super Heita one is kind of funny. The scaling on the infinites is also mostly fine, they just need to link recovery to it to solve the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_nBT9wHug
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciB2UvyYJ-Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753034
If they had a ninja and used Hanzou, I cannot imagine he'd be anything but an identical clone to Samurai Spirits' Hanzou. He's practically already a clone of him anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Daigo combos
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15313016
Lol Burai infinite
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15309190
Lol Senna infinite
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15326358
Assorted minor bugs
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15312508

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P90bgqAWleQ
Just look what I've found!

[Anonymous No.]

Not sure why he's only posting this on the ghost board, but Kamui is confirmed in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P90bgqAWleQ

AI leaving something to be desired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753240
Could it be more that Kamui simply doesn't have a full moveset?

Well, either way, I can't say I care at all about the AI...

[Anonymous No.]

Something else I discovered while messing around that's not in the move lists. Ren's grab super can be charged up if you press C while he's leaning back and then it'll actually do decent damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753695
Oh wait, it does different damage depending on your timing. Up to what looks like nearly 3000 damage instead of the shitty 800 or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753695
>>7753697
yeah, that was how it was in the original. good info for anyone who is starting out though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7753695
>Something else I discovered while messing around that's not in the move lists
I know it might help to know Japanese.
But isn't that basically what that "GO TO HELL!!" thing is under his special?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

So, there's no fighter thread on /v/ right now and I've been coming here so I can wait for this game to come out, so basically I'm going to discuss it with you all here.

I was the one who uploaded that Rouga video that got posted here earlier (sorry about it not being viewable any more, I moved it to my new youtube account) and some of you were saying who ridiculous it is. It's actually not that bad, because that combo is only possible with Big Bang mode. Everyone is capable of big damage in Big Bang mode because it gives you access to your level 3 super, it's not uncommon for a character to do 60-75%. Also, after you use Big Bang mode, you lose the ability to use meter. It becomes a matchup thing against Rouga that you save your meter and if he tries to go for the Can Can, you burst and run away for 10 seconds, and then not only does Rouga lose his best combo, he also can't burst, alpha counter, or use supers.

Outside of Big Bang mode, his boosts aren't very good at all. They don't give you any worthwhile extra damage and their main use is to cancel normals to apply pressure and be safe. It's not as broken as it sounds.

I'm pretty late in replying to that, but a lot of the thread dove into things not so related to gameplay mechanics and discussion, and I mostly care for how the game plays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754509
i don't recall many people complaining about the combo, and the real strength of the combo will be determined by how easy it is to open up an opportunity to go into the combo. it's obviously not godly to anyone with experience in fighters, especially since it more or less appears to be a game-ender since it uses all of your resources including BBM.

but i don't really care about that much unless there's an interesting gameplay mechanic to discuss. i just want to request that you don't lead anyone else from /v/ here. you seem fine so no offense meant to you, but from the few occasions i've been there, reading threads on /v/ gives me a headache.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754559
Trust me, I know how you feel and I don't intend on doing that. As for how easy it is to open someone up, I personally think Rouga is going to have some trouble a bit in that regard. He doesn't have a good way to cross up (no normal crosses up and he doesn't have good side change setups) and his overhead is pretty slow, so someone who knows how to block isn't going to have that hard of a time with him.

However, once he lands a hit he can go right into it since all he has to do is 5A 5B 5C > Can Can. It's probably going to be his best combo, but I don't think landing it every match or even often is going to be possible.

[Anonymous No.]

So is Ren confirmed to be completely devoid of a B mechanic?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754611
B is the meter gauge, which he has. He's avoid of a D mechanic though, yes.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754617
>He's avoid
Devoid even. It's early.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754594
i wouldn't be surprised if they patched the combo out. but yeah, if netplay comes out and it's easy to go into the combo, i imagine you'll see it everywhere online since it doesn't seem hard to execute.

>>7754617
is that confirmed in the actual release?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754617
Well damn, that's kind of boring.
Wonder if they're going to patch one in or not, unless his damage is supposed to make up for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754178
Yes, indeed it is.

Do you guys think that Aja will also released a Original Soundtrack album like they did with Koumajou Densetsu (Touhouvania) ?
They did it with C74 Fanatasista - Wolf Hound Legend back in BBB 1st impression.
Here is a link: http://fanatasista.com/whl/
The music in this game is so good , what are you guys favorite themes ?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754629
>since it doesn't seem hard to execute
The timing is actually really strict. I don't see that combo being possible online at all. I know because the youtube video was just awesome that it looks like I did it without even trying, but it took me half an hour to get the timing down, and even then I rushed the level 3 super because I was afraid of messing up. I could have probably got in one or two more hits before the super.

And on the main website they have full move lists for the characters and Ren does not have a D action. I don't know how more confirmed that can get.

>>7754635
If I had to take a guess I'd say it's not his damage that makes up for it, although his damage is pretty decent (especially with that Hyper Viper Beam nonsense he can do), but rather his projectiles and wakeup pressure make up for it. His projectiles are really good, and his molotov cocktail basically give him free pressure to do whatever he wants if he knocks you down. He seems heavily setup based, but his setups look very scary to me. If he has really good ways to get in and score knock downs, he'll be a major threat.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754649
Rouga's theme is pretty baller. Haven't heard every song though, so I'm waiting to see what they all sound like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754649
Didn't they release a music album with the limited edition of the game?
I don't really know though, but if that wasn't it, then what was the difference between the limited and the normal version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754696
I wish there were some kind of retailer in Europe that could have imported the limited edition of the game without a shipping fee of $15 or above.
Instead I am stuck nothing but paletweb as far as I am aware andt hey lack the limited edition and the shipping itself is like adding another 50% to the cost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754647
I'm pretty sure he won't have any problems landing that first knockdown, his forward dash is bananas and 2B comes out even faster than it did in 1st Impression while still having Kohaku 2C range and comboing into his C shoulder ram.
And yeah, his j2C is pretty nuts for damage, though doing 2C j2C as low to the ground as possible is pretty frustrating. If it were a 236 so it could actually be TKed I'd be all over it but it feels like I'm playing I-no again on this pad.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754746
Wow, you just opened a new world of possibility with Ren for me. I had no idea his j.2C caused a ground bounce, so launcher into instant air 2C allows you to extend combos easily and get even better damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754784
For some reason I assumed that's what you meant by Cable shit but oh well. Then I actually tried just mashing out 236Ds and realized.
Yeah, you can do it up to 3 times in a row before they just stop bouncing at all. He gets ~4k midscreen tensionless with it, it's pretty crazy.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754791
In the corner you get 5k AND you can combo after it for more damage.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7754793
Oh wait, I just realized that last sentence you were talking about the ground bounce combo. Well regardless, this is a good piece of knowledge to have. And I thought Ren's damage was lackluster before, hah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754812
Yeah, probably should have clarified that, but oh well.
Also just in case, 623C wallbounces and you can pick them up with 5A5B2C 623B in the corner to add another combopiece, and if you try to 2C or whatever while they're in a molotov it won't launch or knock them down at all. Have yet to experiment with that last bit, might lead to some interesting things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754649
Probably Kunagi and Rouga's. Devil Daigo's too, it was a real shame you couldn't pick it last game.

I don't think there was a single song I really disliked last game. Maybe Burai's. I can't remember.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7754867
>Maybe Burai's. I can't remember.
That was my favorite one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09kOFnhMGk
I don't really know if its cheesy or not, but I always and still like this one, alot.

[Anonymous No.]

At this rate my copy of Arcana Heart 3 will ship before this is uploaded.
Still have to fix the darn PS3 before it would be of any use though.

It is a good year for fighting games nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.]

At this rate my copy of Arcana Heart 3 will ship before this is uploaded.
Still have to fix the darn PS3 before it would be of any use though.

It is a good year for fighting games nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7756009
>At this rate my copy of Arcana Heart 3 will ship before this is uploaded.

I know that feel. Except I bought it today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7756126
>I know that feel. Except I bought it today.
Is the game out already? I bought the fan edition from their main site, and I haven't heard of anything yet.
Still, I am curious as to what arrives first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7756216
It's out in France, at least. You won't find many copies in store tomorrow, though. Because there weren't so many copies on sale to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7756216
Of all the MUGEN pairings Akito x Mystia is one of the weirdest. I think it's because they're both singers.

[Anonymous No.]

i expected this to come out almost immediately after comiket.

seems like we could be in for a wait if none of the original buyers upload it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7757297
Yes. I must say I seem to have underestimated them this time around.

Did the Touhouvania games get uploaded much smoother than this?
I don't quite remember, and I can have mixed it up with other game releases, but didn't Touhouvania 2 last year hit the net rather smoothly? Or was it the game I waited for so extensively?
It might have been Gensou Shoujo Taisen/Super Touhou Wars though, or was it by chance both?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many copies they managed to sell.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump.

[Anonymous No.]

Does it usually take this long?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758747
>>7758887
I've resorted to messaging people with full gameplay videos on youtube, in the hope that they'll upload it. :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>7758929
Alright. Let's just hope that doesn't have the reverse effect.

But enough of that. Any opinions on the HP bar length? It seems to have been decreased since last time.
I am also not so sure how much of a problem those Big Bang Mode things can be, you don't seem to get all that much B-Power in a math either, so even if it carries over to the next round I am still no sure it is that big of a deal. But I admit I don't know.

I also hope the AI can get a buff in the full version. Not that I find that to be all that important, but it would still be nice.

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>>7759268
>you don't seem to get all that much B-Power in a math either
Actually, you get quite a bit. Unlike Big Bang Beat 1, you actually build meter like you do in other fighting games by landing hits on your opponent, but the gem system is still in place. It only takes about 1 good combo to get around 2 and a half meters. Unless you're ending every combo in a super, you're pretty much going to hit 3 in no time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7759363
>It only takes about 1 good combo to get around 2 and a half meters
Oh that's right. I thought something was off. It was never like that when I played Ren or Kunagi.
It seems I might need to reconsider some of my combos with Erika, enemies tend to die long before I reach 2 meters even without any supers.

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>>7759486
Maybe it's just Rouga then, because it seems an average BnB with him usually builds at least 1 and a half meter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7759523
I believe I worder that a bit bad. I meant that the meter actually builds with Ren and Kunagi.
It just doesn't happen the same the way I play Erika, despire dealing decent/lots of damage.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15343041
E'rybody gets infinites!

[vinson77 No.]

Fighters(KOF XIII, Tekken Tag - Tekken 6, MVC2, KOF MIA, others...) that we had loved for generations have infinite combos, and yet we didn't complained... Why now? BBBR just needs to be patched like KOF XIII w/c also had an infinite glitch on ver 1.00.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7760977
I'm aware. I don't really mind these too much because they're at least fairly decent damage balanced so you'd have to be a dick to abuse them for time-outs and then people would just know not to play against you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7760994
If you are making a competitive fighter you really don't want to have tons of easy to discover infinites.
It makes it look like you didn't test the game or care about it.
Also in the competitive world PLAY TO WIN.
Not everyone is into competition like that though which is understandable.

[Anonymous No.]

>Senna
>face isn't plump and round anymore

What the fuck have they done?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7761566

That is, unless you are making a Fist of the North Star fighting game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7761566
Maybe you should tell all those commercial developers that instead of preaching to some doujin group that consists of about three guys doing this shit part time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7761566
I think Sirlin is a pretty cool game designer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7761566
SIRLIN VS BBB
MAKE IT HAPPEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>7761609
I'm just saying to overlook infinites is silly.
It would be like saying you only enjoy street fighter when someone isn't spamming hadoukens at you and you refuse to fight anyone who does.
Also I don't think every doujin game has this many infinites.
I'll have to wait and see.
My group of friends enjoy some poverty, but nothing has overthrown our love of playing Wonerful World

[Anonymous No.]

Damn, we're almost past a week away from Comiket and still no upload?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7761662
>>7761566
The thing is though, the infinites in this game will never kill someone EVER in a match, so the majority of competitive players would do an infinite to build meter and then do a reset to get unscaled damage. It would be just like MvC2, a game with a similar situation. There are probably hundreds of infinites in that game, but they don't do enough damage to kill anyone before time runs out in a match, so no one ever does an infinite until time over.

Comparing it to fireball "spam" isn't really the same thing, either. You can get around fireballs and punish your opponent for throwing them carelessly, you're not going to get past an infinite. Luckily, Aja was wise enough to include a burst system so that if someone DID try to get a victory via time over infinite you could still get out of it and win, because infinites do very little damage in this game (In fact, every hit in an infinite past the 35th, regardless of what the start of the combo was, will only do 1 point of damage. Some start getting that low way before the 35th hit too.).

There's a few things that show this game was rushed for Summer Comiket since it's the more popular one, like the infinites, lack of netplay, and the patch coming around December, but as it is now the game is not THAT bad. It needs a bit of polishing, but it's certainly not the worst doujin fighter ever made. I actually like this game more than big name titles, it's quite solid and very fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>2011
>Still bitching about fireballs in SF

Hmm

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763240
>but it's certainly not the worst doujin fighter ever made.
that's true, but i would love BBB either way, i think.


>it's quite solid
but i really think you should save statements about the game's quality until awhile after release unless you have specific arguments(no offense, i don't mean i disagree with you, it's simply a matter of the fact that the game will develop in an unknown direction after its release, both in terms of how the game is played and patches).

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>>7763453
>unless you have specific arguments
My specific arguments are that the damage scaling is one of the better forms of such a system that I've seen, the juggle mechanics are open ended without being ridiculous, infinites in the game can be fixed as simply making the 3rd repetition of a special causing the opponent to flip out to match the ground bounce rule and I expect this in the December patch, the game has a good mix of offensive and defensive mechanics to help both play styles, and the meter system seems well thought out.

From looking strictly at the engine and the very foundation of the game, it was designed fairly solid. Now of course when the full version is uploaded and more people are playing it, there's going to be the inevitable balance formation and impending tier lists, but that's another issue entirely. If one character dominates the entire roster it just means that one specific character is too good or the other characters are not good enough. One character can dominate everyone and the engine can still be good.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hey, guess what's out.
Update patch v1.02a

[Anonymous No.]

Is Toranoana the only place selling the limited edition?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763903
>Update patch v1.02a
I wonder what it might be the time I get the chance to play the game.
Most likely have to relearn most of everything about the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7763903
Oh hey, guess what's not uploaded.


The fucking game

[vinson77 No.]

Thanks for the solid and competitive perspective response guys. :)

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15362716
Looks like they are fixing infinites pretty quickly. That's promising. That manbou combo really should not give that much meter though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7765800
Meter gain for that combo is ridiculous.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7764934
Vinson, I love you. Or at least the Vinson tied to this download.

www.megaupload.com/?d=W182ZYY9

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767404
Welcome to the botnet.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767410
Yeah, nah, you're a cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767413
Holy shit it is legit

[Derek No.]

>>7767404
THANK YOU DEAR SIR THIS IS NOT A VIRUS AT ALL AND I AM VERY HAPPY C:

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767404
Wait, this file seems so small... is this actually legit?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767424
It uses sprites and non-moving .jpg backgrounds at an 800x480 resolution. It's not exactly going to be a heavy game.

[Anonymous No.]

so where can I get the patches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767428
Hm... fair enough, I suppose. I just can't remember the last time I saw a FG this small.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767424
Never trust an idolfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767439
Confirming as a legit download.

Scanned with virus software, it is safe.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767461
Thank you. I'm not just going to link to some bullshit. We've all been waiting for this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767469
NO Thank you kind sir.
I'll be eternally grateful for your presence here.
Now Comiket 80 is finally COMPLETE.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767483
Well not quite. I still need Yatagarasu, but I'm happy I finally have BBBR.

[vinson77 No.]

That is uploaded by me personally Hit Rep Box. :)
Enjoy the game guys. :D

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767404
The keyconfig doesn't seem to detect my TE stick, will I just have to use xpadder?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767502
Yeah, I'm doing the same. Doesn't seem to like my Hit Box.

[Anonymous No.]

http://220.196.42.167/2b/simple/?t713972.html
wow that was retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767502
Odd... it worked fine with mine..
>>7767437
The game has an autoupdater. That's the only way to patch up atm.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767525
Works fine for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767525
Game sound is fine.
Looks like its coming from your side

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just my computer being ass or is the sound and game itself really laggy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767529
>>7767530

Aw...another game I'm gonna miss out on. First OMK and now this.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767535
OMK sucks, you didn't miss out on much.

[Anonymous No.]

works fine for me,but is there a way to set it off full screen mode like the trial?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767540

Still.

I would have liked to try it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767554

Untick the box at the top of the updater window.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767554
Unselect the fullscreen option in the updater

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767559
>>7767558
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

More importantly, does this have inbuilt netplay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767540

What's OMK?

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767579
Ougon Musou Kyoku. The Umineko fighter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767579
Ougon Musou Kyoku, Umineko fighting game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767578
Not yet but will in the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767514
Is this mirror legit?
How come it is larger than the other?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767585
Oh, that OMK. Yeah, That game sucks, you definitely didn't miss out on anything.

Hopefully OMK2 will be worth something though, the developer has shown they want to improve the game, even though they really haven't done much yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767598
Oh never mind. Unpacked it appears to be the same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767540
>>7767551
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5BYfFxGX78
Sure it might be one of the most crude fighters I have seen in a while, so yeah.
But they still improved the game, alot, with all of those patches each month since the release. But the above statement still holds true, it is a notably crude game.

But it still turns out it is a suprisingly good test of reaction, spacing and reading etc, for all its worth. Its crude, but they managed to make something that plays out as a "game". As the above video shows, they are fighting throughout the whole games, and the game keeps a level of tension up throughout the matches. But well, that video is a relatively good example of high level Ougon play.
Despite how you messure its quality, it still suprised me by being a lot better than I first thought it would be, and compared to my first impression of it.

[Anonymous No.]

Are you supposed to let the client update or something?
I wonder if they will deny pirates from playing online later or something. Then again, I doubt it for several reasons.
One being, that they would have had to put down time and effort for writing shit like that into their code.
And another reason being, that well, with the amount of copies printed (which I assume aren't on a commercial company's scale), their game wouldn't reach nearly the same kind of audience.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767618
There was 2 things that really bugged me about OMK:

1) Outside of 3 characters, ever combo was A B C dash A B C activate A B C super. No one could do anything else because the engine simply didn't allow it, besides those said 3 characters who had very extended combos and of course ended up being better than everyone else.

2) The only character I ever cared about in that game was Battler, and he sucks. He's slow as hell, doesn't have shit for combos, does weak damage, he just sucks. It's bad enough I'm forced to pick another character I don't care about to play a team, but the one character I DID want to play as was terrible.

It wasn't the worst game I've ever played, but it just wasn't very good. It was boring, gameplay felt generic, and overall just kind of seemed unfinished. I will say though, the animation was very nice, surprisingly good in fact. I would love if they made it better, but as it is now I just can't play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767642
I doubt you really care and I don't want to hijack this too much, but like someone else said the game has improved a lot. Characters have actual combos now with some minor jump cancelling. Battler is actually one of the better characters in the game. And the game has evolved past the whole Beatrice meta spam idiocy.

Its still pretty rough but people should probably give OMK2 a shot. The original melty was shit too, but I guess it wasn't as limited as OMK first was.

[Anonymous No.]

What's this talk of a December patch then? And has anybody figured out what Kojurou does? They announced that he'll randomly possess a character if you use random select, but don't know if he's actually implemented yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767630
fighters being pirated probably has its benefits. more people playing means a stronger community, which keeps people playing and makes them try to get other people playing, which in all likelyhood will translate to more purchases than if the game had flopped because there was no community/not enough people playing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767642
The thing that bugged me about OMK is that there are only ten playables in a tag system. 40% of the entire cast could be fighting in every battle. The game felt tiny.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god how is Daigo supposed to watahh everyone now? Comboing into Lose-All-Your-Seals Kick barely adds anything even with all 9.

[Anonymous No.]

This migth have been obvious given how the process injects code.
But don't run Atlas through your updating client, it messes things up, even though it neatly translates your error logs.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

Welp, Rouga can 100% Hanny.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a movelist in game? I went to the pause menu in training mode but I didn't see anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Is anyone having problems playing BBBR with a joystick?

Mine is going all crazy

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767802
Unmap joystick inputs, use Xpadder instead for inputs.

>>7767807
>>7767808
http://aja-games.com/products_BBBR/character.html

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I find movelists for this game? Didn't see any in the game itself.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got torrent or good mirror with Ougon patches?
I tried dowloading from official but it was really slow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767642
Yeah, battler was pretty bad. I felt they must have been going for a Shoto-ish character with him, but his fireballs aren't particularly scary, and there's too much startup and not enough recovery.

Though I think the game needs both system and character improvements. The engine just doesn't allow you to be creative at all. The air juggle system is bad, the basic combo system is bad, character variety needs some work too. And what's with a character like Ronove? He can burst out of blockstun and hit you. And it's a pretty big hassle to try and bait that shit out, it forces you to play a completely different game.

And i'm not a fan of the mixup either. Rather, the lack of any. There's hardly any crossup or grab mixup, and your High/Low game with 90% of the cast is basically where will you attack touch during your string, which can be blocked on reaction, and considering the lack of any actual blockstrings you either tag out eventually to continue pressure or you don't and give up your momentum. There's no reward for rushdown, instead most of your damage is dealt from punishing whiffed attacks or counterhits. Promotes too much turtling.

Here's to hoping the sequel does a better job. I actually do have hopes it will.

[Anonymous No.]

This game is lonely without netplay.

[Anonymous No.]

Ha. Burai's intro against Kinako is lulz. Now I actually understand these character interactions thanks to BBA.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a window mode? How do you get to it, if so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767751
Guess I should post my lab findings and maybe get some discussion going.
Best I've been able to pull off so far without my precious D-dashes is 5B2B 5C2C 214A 5B 5C 22A, ~2.5k and +2 seals midscreen or in the corner. I understand that's somewhat below average damage wise for BBBR, and it feels pretty suboptimal, but it's all I've managed to scrape up and 2 seals is fine I guess. In the corner or midscreen you can tack on any C special if you've got the seals, but in the corner especially you can add 236C 623D for ~3.2k and +2 seals. Also you can throw in 214C before the super if you've got the seals to spare for a kill or style points. You gain enough meter from the combo itself to do the super for free essentially, gaining a little bit of meter as a whole.
6B is a low, 22C is an overhead.
All I've found so far.

[Anonymous No.]

As I expected from the moment I noticed just how frequently you could get them out in the demo, Erika's assists are naturally notably nerfed in terms of their cool down in between uses.
Though her attacks also makes the enemy drop noticably more B-Stones as opposed to not that much at all before, so they took care of that as well.

Looks good, with a quick set of patches so quickly. Hopefully, netplay will be added in December.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7767894
When you start up the game you uncheck the box on the left in the updater.

[Anonymous No.]

Did one of the patches get rid of Kinako's 214C? I can't do it anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767933
There are a lot of mistakes in the movelists. This was clearly rushed out before it was quite finished. I thought they were just not revealing the Big Bang Attacks for non-trial characters, but they're mostly not implemented in the game at all. And if you try to do Devil Daigo's, the game crashes.

Better than nothing, but it's clearly not finished yet, so that's disappointing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767957
The errors of the movelist is in fact due to the patches having changed the comboes, yet the lists not having been updated accordingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767933
I can't do her Big Bang Super anymore either.

>>7767963
No, I mean the motions. Like some are marked as 214 when they're actually 63214. Unless that's what you mean by combos.

[Anonymous No.]

Mecha Heita's rocket crotch thrust... why.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767957
That's so incredibly bad it hurts. Why would they release a game unfinished like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767988
Because Comiket probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767988
Summer Comiket is hella more popular than winter Comiket, and if a fighting game has a really pitiful playerbase to start nowadays it's not going to get any bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767988
Remember that doujin games sell for like $15. The limited edition of this with special case sold for about $20. I'm not going to lie and say I'm happy about an unfinished game, but they're probably only a month or so away from implementing all the stuff. I expect half the supers to just be variations on the original game's anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7767973
>No, I mean the motions. Like some are marked as 214 when they're actually 63214. Unless that's what you mean by combos.
No, I meant the inputs. If it is marked "214", it used to be "214", though later changed into "63214" in the later patches.
Or at least I am fairly certain of that.

You could always try to run the demo, or re-install and run the game from 1.0 if you doubt me, but that's what it unless I recalll incorrectly. Though I don't feel like re-installing to prove my point further.

[Anonymous No.]

Any other Kinako players out there?

I can't figure out any good BnBs. Her damage doesn't look so hot right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768130
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J_nBT9wHug

Dunno if these work anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768130
Maining Kinako here

The basic is make super bar while starting a combo with 6A or the orange doll and air combo. Press D for make more "ghost" bar when the opponent is down.
Pink doll is for combo with orange doll or anti-air, and Grey doll does good damage. I can't figure out how to work the flying command with other attacks though.

[Anonymous No.]

Is the bug where the next round starts instantly and your character is frozen due to some kind of inputs between rounds or what? Just had this freeze after figuring out how to beat Kamui on hardest. What a pain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768264
I'd say that setting up crossups with 236C is better for when they're down. Her command throw that gives ghosts is a decent enough combo ender if you stay on the ground since it'll grab out of the air, but it seems like most of her damage comes from xx41236C236D combos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768143
I'm surprised. I thought I was just doing pretty bad damage, but my bnbs are about the same as in that video. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

So why did they feel the need to give Daigo a gigantic camel toe? Also, can you not chooses, or is sleep deprivation finally catching up with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768361
Aside from the LOLinfinites Around 3k is decent damage for most.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15369588

I think Kinako could use a little bit of a damage buff though.

Akito's got some neat combos.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm15370734

[Anonymous No.]

got some problem regarding the sytem, too.
the update from 1.00 > 1.01 is, for the 4th time blocked at 83ish percent.
Also, unlike the demo, my D button doesn't have the convenient "back" function, meaning I always have to start a match then menu>return to title to go back, if any mistake was made.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>7768519
The graphics are pretty bad. They basically just took the old sprites and threw a filter on it. Pretty lazy honestly, but whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768472
choose stages*

Yeah, probably sleep deprivation...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768507
>the update from 1.00 > 1.01 is, for the 4th time blocked at 83ish percent.
Still a problem?
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZL35BDJ7
I guess this should help, but I don't know.

[Anonymous No.]

For some reason, even after clearing the damn thing, the controller config keeps putting in one command for my joystick. It keeps it on "PAD2_UP" as a command for up. Anyone one else having this problem?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768887
Have been using a PS3 controller with motionjoy, and I have honestly not had any problems whatsoever with the controller. Neither in the demo nor any of the other versions.

Also
>>7768519
That's a classic, was in BBB 1 if I remember. But sure, why not, its a cool "cameo" nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768860
more or less, I re-installed it without changing the key confif, and it worked on it's on.
thanks anyway for the work.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care if he is the boss, such an easy to grab and special should not deal 5k damage. And they felt the need to have Kamui pull it off every other move. Fucking annoying.

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>>7768946
The grab is super annoying because it leads into huge damage, is fast, dashes forward, and can grab you in the air or the ground. At least his reversal is easy to bait out.

I figured the easiest way to deal with Kamui is to abuse a quick air unblockable. A lot characters have a 6a which can lead into a small aerial combo. I've only tried story mode with two characters so far though.

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>>7768143

The combos using the 236a work, but not on everyone. I was using Ren as the training dummy, but when I tried it on Rouga it stopped working.'

Also, I'm not sure what they did, but they did some funky thing to the scaling. Some of the combos I was doing before the patch don't work now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7768988

Also, more combos that end with solid damage and don't allow the enemy to tech in the air would be nice. Kinako looks based around getting a knockdown and using it to set stuff up, so doing mediocre damage and letting them get away seems counter-productive.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

Short combo video showing a couple characters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPzDxhHHkyk

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>>7768908
Cameo? I'm sorry, but I'm lost even after looking at the picture for 3 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

Ha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRGW7r0S2WA

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86TdQgP6fJM

for kunagi niggaz

[Anonymous No.]

>>7770870
seems like they really changed kunagi's damage in strange ways.

i had this one really long combo which did at least 3k meterless in the demo, and now it does around 2.2k. oh well, i guess it can still be used for meter building. looks like they really buffed the damage returns on her rapid claw super.

i miss the old buff super and preferred the old aoki tsume as well. i like the disc projectiles too but i'm not sure if they'll make up for losing her old j.c. her teleports also seem a little too slow to be useful and i have no idea what the new ground projectile-movement attack is supposed to be used for; it looks way too slow to have much use.

[Anonymous No.]

All in all I really love what they have done with Heita.
a little fine tuning with his Big Bang/Super Heita mode and things should be great.

I say the moveset really suits the character and in the end I say it makes him fun and interesting to play. Not too shabby either.

[Anonymous No.]

Best glitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btNgxzzIT84

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

Secret technique: Tri-Jump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs9eCOCbGR8

[Anonymous No.]

This brings me to new topic: What the fuck is my middle name I goddamn /B/ reject.

[Anonymous No.]

No she's patchouli's secret half-sister.

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>>7774455
Hmm. I noticed that, but didn't think of it as a bug and rather as part of the mechanics.
But now that I think about it, I suppose it is a bit odd.

[Anonymous No.]

You never noticed the giant fucking pigtails.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7774489
I have major doubts that they would have coded in the game pressing up makes you go down, however it's one bug I'd like to see stay in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>It's just like real life the game How can I encourage you to see stay in the game Suigin?

[Anonymous No.]

This game could use a sort of CG/Gallery mode.
Then again, if the people rip those things there might perhaps not be much of a demand. Then again, its always nice to unlock stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Suppose I should start probing the game archives for graphic files already.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!4kI2ajBUI8D No.]

Hoping for netplay sometime in 2030.

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>>7779728
Initially I read "December" as "September".
But sadly as that isn't it, there is naturally some time left to wait.

Then again, I wonder if the update is going to have something other than netplay, if its going out around the same time as Winter Comiket.

Gou or Kuga would be a blast, though I doubt it considering they aren't even in the opening.
Kojurou might be a lot more plausible possibility, though I don't fully seem to understand his concept.

I am still wondering if they have ever had plans for Sanae though. She was in the opening of the first game as well, though this time she is shown along the same slide of other playable characters.
She always did appear in Heita's slideshow though, so that might be it. All in all she is kind of weak "powerlevel-wise", though as is the Hanny and Manbou. But I would be pretty hard pressed to think of a moveset for Sanae, I doubt she would ever place in the game.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

I don't suppose any of you know how to write in Japanese and wouldn't mind helping me out.

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>>7780023
What would you want to do?
Email Aja? Post on some blog?

No matter the case, my confidence in my Japanese is sadly not good enough for the task. Wouldn't mind otherwise though, not as if I use my time well otherwise anyway,

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7780087
>Email Aja?
This. I sent them an e-mail in English and their reply was pretty much "We don't know English, thank you for the support."

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>>7780098
What was the mail about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7780098
Yeah, Japanese people tend to be really shaky on the subject of English.
And machine translations, as you should know, surely doesn't make things any more understandable, and can sometimes just twist the words around.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7780156
I was trying to ask them to keep the tri-jump bug in because I like it.

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>>7780166
Of course, which is why I'm trying to find someone who can write in Japanese. I basically just sent them an e-mail as a longshot hope that one of them knew how to read English.

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>>7780169
I can't help you. But if you post it then perhaps someone can.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7780208
If I post what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7779766
Sanae did the tutorial in BBB1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7IBPekZw4Y

[Anonymous No.]

>>7780231
Your mail, I guess.

[Hit Box Rep !hDfpmeStUk No.]

>>7780251
Well I don't think that's all that necessary, if someone asks for it I'll give it out, but we can do without.

[Anonymous No.]

I would have loved to install this on my old school's arcade cabinet from way back.
That would have been amazing, the fact that we even had one was amazing enough.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep getting stupid crashes/AI fuckups at Kamui. Probably needs to be patched out.

Sometimes I just get stuck in a winpose and he's trying to fuck me up next round and he can't because i'm immortal winpose guy. It's adorable. Just I CAN'T GET OUT OF MY WINPOSE, EVER.

During a Heita playthrough it just up and crashed before I had a chance to fight him. Yet i'm still enjoying the game! Kunagi is a beast now.

[Anonymous No.]

As others have said, the game's obviously not finished yet. No netplay, unimplemented supers for most of the cast, infinites for everybody, infinite jumps, physics glitches, etc. I still think it has a lot of potential, certainly more than Ougon ever did, but I think I'll give it a month or two to get all this shit worked out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7781758
To be honest, I haven't witnessed a single freeze/lock/crash not involving devil daigo ever since the the updates.
But I don't know, perhaps i have been lucky. Though I have been playing it quite a bit.

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>>7781802
>infinites for everybody
They already fixed this, the first week at that.
The jump for Sanzou is a weird bug, but it is only relevant for him, and will most likely be fixed soon.

Netplay is said to be coming in december. And supers are coming gradually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7781864
Many characters still have infinites. They only fixed the ones with slams. Nakanishi infinite is practically easymode.

[Anonymous No.]

So far, we like this game. Right?

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyykT-OCDWs
Ha.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!4kI2ajBUI8D No.]

>>7785265
If people liked jumping off bridges would you jump too? I personally enjoy the game.

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>>7786525
Don't talk like my dear mother, Hong.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!4kI2ajBUI8D No.]

>>7786561
But you love your mother. She probably says those things, because she cares about you.

[Anonymous No.]

I love your mother too.
I love her long time.
Someone make a new thread.

[Anonymous No.]

So long as they don't completely trash the combo system I will always enjoy BBB. I can't say whether I like it as a complete game or not yet because I have not been able to play it with anyone, nor will I ever(offline).

>>7786525
If you weren't Hong I would chew you out for posting this argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7787912
>>7786525
Personally your opinions won't change mine.
But it is still interesting to gauge at what others might think of something. It can also help you judge whether or not you are the odd one out or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7786525
If History has taught me anything, is that if suicide were to become the "in" thing AGAIN, people would jump off bridges just to be like the cool kids.

Allow me to remind you that in the victorian age suicide poems and lusting after dying women was common.

[Anonymous No.]

Autosaging.

Here.
>>7788536