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Anyone else playing this?

>> No.7739849

>>7739841
Not yet. But I want to/

>> No.7739848 [DELETED] 

>>7739841
nigga what the fuq is dis shit

>> No.7739855

Played a little bit to try out some different teams. No idea what the upgrades beyond the basic normal/hard/lunatic do though.

>> No.7739857

Bad with Age of Empires, I will most certainly suck at this.

>> No.7739869

>>7739841
Is the full version out yet?

>> No.7739910

>>7739869
Yes, there have been several links for it through mediafire on other threads already.

http://www.mediafire.com/?z6cg44h44020w79 is one

>> No.7740066

>>7739910
Thank you kindly.

>> No.7740232

168mb?
Does it have netplay? :D

>> No.7740238

>>7740232
Yes, but nobody will play you because you're an idiot.

>> No.7740253

I would consider netplay, but I really suck at these type of games.

>> No.7740346

>>7739910
Mounted it and nothing happened,cool.

>> No.7740391

It's pretty fun. I don't know the function of some of the buildings yet though.

>> No.7740513

>>7740232
>:D
don't so that

>> No.7740594

>>7740513
>:3

JESUS CHRIST IT'S A LION, GET IN THE CAR.

>> No.7740606

I can't run it because it requires 2 core processor. Well, time to replace this old piece of shit I've been using for 7 years.

>> No.7740678

>>7740606
Did you try it? It seems to work fine on my 7 year old laptop with a Pentium 4 processor.

>> No.7740720

>>7740678
Yes, I tried it. Got every runtime library the git wants, but still nothing.

>> No.7740747

maybe you should install the latest directx?
an installer comes with th13 if youre getting that too

>> No.7740752

what do the reimu/marisa/suika units actually do?

>> No.7740774

>>7740752

Okay, time to explain a little bit what does what. I've been playing this game since yesterday and I'm on stage 9 in story.

Basically, if you haven't realized yet, this game works exactly like Age of Empires. You have your 3 collectable resources: Beer/Mushrooms/Faith (Would be like Food/Wood/Stone) and a 4th one that increases by creating units, building things and killing enemies. We will call this resource points.
Marisa, Reimu and Suika would be your hero style units. They have abilities later in the game after you upgrade your town to the next difficulty. Marisa gains Master spark, Reimu gains some protection field and I don't know what Suika gets.
By upgrading difficulty, you have to go your townhall and click on the boton below the villager one. It would go from Normal to Hard to then Lunatic.
Upgrading your difficulty unlocks new units, upgrades for your hero units, upgrade for your normal units and, in lunatic tier, you get to create an ultimate unit. I'm still trying to figure out how they work, but so far it seems to be quite interesting.

If I missed something to explain, just tell me and I will do what I can.

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7740790

>>7740720
I played a round on my laptop and it was very smooth through the whole match, though it was only against a single bot. The specs are 2,66GHz P4, 1GB RAM and Mobility Radeon 9000, so unless your computer is significantly worse it's more likely to be a software problem. Did you try to apply the 1.1 patch already?

>>7740752
They are hero units that are tougher than normal units and gain special moves once you level them.

>> No.7740792

>>7740346
Help?

>> No.7740798

>>7740792
Seriously?
Try like, checking what's on the cd?

>> No.7740818

Played only trial so far.
Guard tower limit disappoints

>> No.7740823

>>7740774
>>7740790
very very informative, thanks chaps
burning through campaign mode myself, and i just go to the level where alice makes you upgrade marisa to level 2

>> No.7740834

>>7740774

It sounds more like AoE 3 than AoE 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh39AXVCGQk

>> No.7740840

>>7740834
Actually, it's more like AoE3&AoE1

>> No.7740852
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7740852

What's this building for? I can only seem to store units inside.

>> No.7740859

>>7740852
I guess that it's some sort of food farm, like those in AoE3

>> No.7740890

>>7740852
What >>7740859 said is correct.
They act like farms, store 5 villagers inside them to gain constant beer supply.

>> No.7740907

>beer
is this some kind of ZUN in-joke?

>> No.7740912

Why do you get mushrooms if touhoes chop wood?

>> No.7740926
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>> No.7740928

>>7740926
How can touhoes build houses from mushrooms?

>> No.7740934

>>7740928
magically enhanced chitin

>> No.7740946

>>7740790
Mine is 1.67GHz single core AMD Athlon, 1GB RAM, ATI Radeon 9600/9550/X1050 Series GPU

I wouldn't say significantly worse, but still pretty damn worse processor-wise. Like I said, I probably need a new pile of junk to run this. Never thought the day would come where I wouldn't be able to run a doujin game.

>> No.7740951

>>7740934
But chitin from 30 mushrooms will be enough to build a house.

>> No.7740954

>>7740951
will not be enough to build a house.*

>> No.7740973

I think Arnold Schwarzenegger is also playing this and he seems to hate Reimu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDT-9PLrxNc

>> No.7740974

>>7740946
My day was the Earth Defense Force Touhou game.

>> No.7740978

>>7740973
Seen that video. Sounds too young for him.

>> No.7741101

Does fullscreen not work?

>> No.7741104

>>7740774 speaking here.

Just finished the story mode, I may record the whole thing explaining everything today. I may be a little bit rusty overall, but yeah.

It's a decent game, no idea if the network code works well, but I will test it soon. Also, the last mission in the game is quite funny.

>> No.7741153

>>7740973

> 4:40
> Flandora

Ok I laughed.

Looks good, and this guy's video is very informative. Might download it later.

>> No.7741164

Would appreciate it if folks would share what they've learned about the factions so far (specifically what each hero's abilities do or other oddities about the faction).

Hakurei: Reimu makes a barrier that increases pierce armor. Also she gives your barriers armor like your walls have. Marisa has Master Spark which murderizes units and buildings. Suika makes it so you can build minisuikas from your breweries.

SDM: Remilia chucks gungnir for damage in a line. Sakuya gets infinite movespeed (buggy). Flandre does AOE in a half circle in front of her, she's a terrifying glass cannon.

Netherworld: Youmu makes Myon spin and shoot bullets, while she can still move. Yukari can build gaps that work exactly like GLA tunnels. Yuyuko unknown.

Eientei: Eirin has some AOE heal I think. Kaguya can barely move but she massacres anything that gets in range. Reisen unknown.

Muenzuka: Builds flowerbeds instead of houses, you can move over them. Komachi gets an AOE slow. Medicine gets AOE poison. Shikieiki gets a laser.

Alice: Really weird. Doesn't build houses, upgrades population at library instead. Her units seem to be different from the standard ones too.

>> No.7741185

>>7741104
Only thing I'm still trying to figure is the config options in the 'vs com' and what does some of the upgrades do in the tech building

>> No.7741205

>>7741164
from my 10 minutes of play:

Orin get an aura than damages enemy units and buildings
Okuu gets some sort of forcefield (dont know if actually does damage or stop units from coming near through)
I have no idea what Satori does

>> No.7741215

I'm having trouble with the bgm. I can only hear it when an sfx plays. For example at the start screen part of the bgm plays for a second when I click on Story.

Anyone else having this problem?
Btw, I downloaded >>7739910 and patched with >>7738735 and got X3DAudio1_6.dll from the first google hit.
Everything else seem working fine but it'd be nice to have the bgm.

>> No.7741236

>>7741215
Try
www.mediafire.com/?6z9ktao00yr0st4
Already patched and no install required

>> No.7741239
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>>7739841
could someone tell me what is the meaning of this building? it looks kinda like a school but i just don't get it...

>> No.7741250

>>7741239
Isn't that like counterpart to the Scarlet Devil Mansion's library?

That is, unit and hero upgrades. Though you might need to increase your overall tech level first.
Though the building might also be a requirement for you to upgrade said level.

>> No.7741255

>>7741239
it's a forge/cybernetics core

>> No.7741257

>>7741239

That building is used to upgrade your hero units. You start getting those upgrades from Normal difficulty.

>> No.7741316

God damn
Lunatic mode almost feels impossible
Higher starting off minerals and fast ups for cpu

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7741315

> mfw There is no Patchouli

>> No.7741319

Can anyone tell me please how does the vs net works ?

>> No.7741330

>>7741319
You select the "vs network" option in the main screen.

In the network screen;
To host you select the left option.
In here you assign a playable port (10800, 7700) or just leave it as the default port, or whatever else works.

To join, you select the right option.
Here you need the IP number of the host, and the port they choosed.

Were this to be done, a connection were to be established.

>> No.7741341

>>7741330
Thanks

>> No.7741347

>>7741164
This is what I've found out about the three fairies so far.

-No houses, you start straight at 200 unit limit
-No defensive structures, that means no walls or towers of any sort.
-The three fairies level together with the normal units instead of having their own upgrades, each fairy is tied to a different color in that aspect.
-The three fairies have passive abilities only. Star has a huge field of vision compared to others, Luna and Sunny make nearby buildings and units invisibly, respectively.

>> No.7741372

tha vs network doesn't seems to work, it gives me a default ip+ port
Should i put my hamachi ip or what ?

>> No.7741387

>>7741372
The host opens up a port or whatever port and hosts the game

You put in the hosts ip+port into the client side(The right)

In your case, put the hamachi ip in and whatever port the host decided to use

>> No.7741419

>>7741387
Ok thanks

>> No.7741446

>>7741347
>-No houses, you start straight at 200 unit limit

Oh boy, huns again

>> No.7741460

>>7741205
okuu autokills whatever is in the radius.

>> No.7741476

>>7741387
It doesn't want to work i'm doing everything but nothing, can i have some screens for hosting and joining please ?

>> No.7741511

>>7741476
My guess would be that you aren't really doing anything wrong, rather, you need to portforward the ports selected.

Can you host Hisouten or Ougon on 10800?
Have you hosted anything, on any selected port?

No matter the case, google your router and google how to portforward.

>> No.7741532

>>7741511
Uh, yeah Terraria, Ougon, Hisouten, but not in 10800 i don't really remember what port i used, i'll chek it then
thanks again

>> No.7741533

I seem to be able to host but have nobody to play with me.
Is there interest on /jp/ for netplay like we had for Hisouten?

>> No.7741539

>>7741533
why the fuck not
let's have 8 players FFA clusterfuck

>> No.7741542

oh boy, does moriya need faith for workers?

>> No.7741543

>>7741533
I am in.

>> No.7741550

>>7741533

I'm in. I'm terrible, but it's fun.

Do you think it'd be a good strategy to rush normal? It's pretty cheap and the upgrades are good.

>> No.7741551

>>7741533
I need to update to 1.1 to join, right? Oh well, I will do so.

>> No.7741556

>>7741550

Play it as you would play AOE.

As in, get to normal so that you don't die to Swordsmen.

>> No.7741560

>>7741550
make marines and get stims

>> No.7741558

>>7741533
You can probably throw up an IP:port
and we'll jump in
I'm looking to take a break from the cpu with their cheating ways

>> No.7741566

>>7741543
>>7741550
>>7741539
Was just a question if there's any interest. I'm slightly busy currently but I'll try to host for /jp/ later today.
>>7741551
Yes, we'll all use 1.1

>> No.7741573

I created a Hamachi channel, to test this out.

Name of the channel: Age of Ethanols
Password: zunisthefinalboss

We will see how it goes.

>> No.7741579

>>7741551
Oh 1.1 ? but the link one is 1.0
Maybe that's why i can't vs net

>> No.7741585

>>7741579

Check what I posted earlier >>7741236

Already patched to 1.1. and ready to play

>> No.7741586

>>7741573
why hamachi
I don't want to install all that crap just to play one game

>> No.7741594

>>7741585
Thanks, sorry didn't notice it

>> No.7741603

>>7741579
Here you go.
http://neetpia.sakura.ne.jp/
Googling "Age of Ethanols" leads you to the developers site.
>東方蟒酒宴～Age of Ethanols～ 1.0→1.1差分(1.0のファイルに上書きしてください)
>DOWNLOAD
Is on top of the page. Hard to miss. No need for thanks.

>> No.7741607

I fiddled a bit with the netplay in LAN, some may find this of interest if they have similar trouble.

Connecting to a LAN address doesn't work for me at all, it doesn't even try to make a connection for some reason, the button just goes passive for a few seconds. However, the field also accepts domain names and for LAN also computer names work (you can find yours out by going to control panel -> system -> computer name). In this case the input would be simply computername:portnumber.

Also, for internet multiplayer, note that this game uses TCP protocol instead of UDP that's used by Hisoutensoku for example, so make sure you're using TCP when forwarding ports.

>> No.7741635

>>7741607

Did you figure out how to change your chat name?

>> No.7741638

>>7741635

Never mind, it's in ConfigTool.exe

>> No.7741667

I'm loving this.

When you fight the three fairies in campaign, Luna throws out Akahana's line from MSG, telling the other Acguy's to attack.

Really hoping the rest of the campaign keeps this up.

>> No.7741671

>>7741667

the last stage won't dissapoint you, trust me.

>> No.7741786

Anyone playing or hosting?

>> No.7741794

>>7741786

I got a hamachi channel going, it was mentioned above. I will be hosting in about an hour or so to see if it works fine.

>> No.7741797 [DELETED] 

>>7741786

I got a hamachi channel going, it was mentioned above. I will be hosting in about an hour or so to see if it works fine.

>> No.7741827

I would join,but I am not re-installing Hamachi just to join a game.
Can't you simply port forward a port?

>> No.7741834

I'll try a quick test match to see how my hosting is.
87.156.202.80:37564

No hamachi or anything required.

>> No.7741843
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7741843

This could help you guys it was what I could find out.

Game speed pictured is very fast by the way.

>> No.7741854
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7741854

I didn't see any translations for the various menu items, so I figured I'd post my own approximations. Note that I don't actually know japanese so there are probably errors here, but maybe this will be of help to someone.

>> No.7741875

>>7741843
>"grass thing"
Isn't that a "save/turn on replay saving" option or something like that?

>> No.7741881

>>7741843
Oh damn, someone did get there before me.

>> No.7741887

>>7741843
>>7741854
Good work you two.

>> No.7741902

Hosting for an FFA.

173.48.245.158:64087

>> No.7741920

Is there a way to play this fullscreen?

>> No.7741922

>>7741902

Game crashed on alt-tab, rehosting.

>> No.7741925

>>7741920
I don't have the game, but did you try ALT+ENTER (or a config.exe if it exists)?

>> No.7741953

alt enter works

>> No.7741964

>>7741925
>>7741920
Launch ConfigTool.exe and click on the フルスクリーンモード

>> No.7742035

King here

GGs Teafairy and Iroha, I got lucky if you guys had pushed your attacks on me I'd most likely have lost.

Also it seems we could not communicate during the match I tried several commands like Ctrl+ Enter and Shift + Enter but I believe none of them worked.

Also the "grass thing"seems to be an upgradeable wall.

>> No.7742057

>>7742035
Yeah It was a GG

Alice is pretty hard to play, but I like playing her so I'll keep at that.

Can't seem to figure out what her spell does either

Tried for some early game harassing but it gets thwarted pretty quick so maybe I'll just focus hard on economy next time

>> No.7742073

>>7742035
>>7742057
TeaFairy here. GG.
I also couldn't chat, but I blame the weird slowdown during the match for this.

Also I really dislike the heaven maptype. No natural walls and these weird 3k wood trees?

Next time I'll try a smaller map for this playercount.

>> No.7742120

>>7741902

Chinchen from that match.

Man, if I wasn't that bloodthirsty and more concerned about my base, I would have lasted ALOT longer than what I did.

Then again, it's fun to see how my enemies don't bother to finish up anyone, so the match can be LONGER than it's supposed to be.

Also, blue books are quite powerful. That long range can power can blow up anything. Also, it has splash damage.

>> No.7742134

Also, it's a good thing to say that the netcode for this game is PRETTY damn solid. Not a single crash and the match is going for over an hour or so.

This game is quite something.

>> No.7742145

Anyone feel like hosting another match?

>> No.7742147

Man. I have having the hardest time trying to figure out how to play alice

>> No.7742196

Drink here.
My poor poor fairies getting slaughtered ;_;

>> No.7742201

>>7742196

That was a good match man.

I gave up too early, I think.Then again, I don't like matches to be dragged for TOO long with townhalls being built on corners and everything.

>> No.7742214

>>7742201
yeah gg.

>> No.7742224

Unearth here. Good game.

>>7742120

Blue books are indeed really powerful. When I was doing my first attacks my units were getting slaughtered, but I noticed the blue books had good range. So I just made a decent number of them and they just go to town on everything.

>>7742201

I think it's good to keep playing if you can actually rebuild or even just hurt the attacking player. That way you weaken him for the other players.

>> No.7742247

>>7742224
>Unearth here. Good game.
Yeah, gg.
Though may I ask. How is that gray/dark book you can unlock in Lunatic?
I researched it, or whatever it was I did the first time I thought I built it. Though, you destroyed my corner town hall before I could finish it. So close...

Also, my apologies if some find that whole rebuild thing tedious, it can, supposedly drag things on a bit.
Though if the game wasn't in 20fps I don't think that kind of thing would have been as much of a problem.

And, well, in spite of it having the potential to be tedious. To smite an opponent down without any workers escaping, is a bit of an art in itself, that, and finding remote outposts. Though, depending on things, they can drag on even so.

>> No.7742279

>>7742247

I sent it along with my forces, but I didn't pay too much attention to it. It has this giant magic circle around it, so I assumed it was an aura. I'll have to test with it more.

It can get tedious, but it's part of the game so it is what it is. I wouldn't hold it against anyone.

Does it force the game to 20 FPS in multiplayer?

>> No.7742306

>>7742279
>Does it force the game to 20 FPS in multiplayer?
No. Played wtih my friend the moment I got the game at release.
Hosted, and set things up without modifying anything, had the delay set to "3".
I suppose I should have set things to 4 had I wanted the speed to be perfect.
But with 3, we still got 40fps.

The core of it, is basically that if a player pings above the delay time, the game "pauses" for a short moment to keep up. With the delay, the action itself is merely delayed, but it doesn't affect the overall game speed in the same manner.

Of course, if the connection is too bad, the delay number doesn't really matter in the same way, in a case where a good connection can't even theoretically be established.

tl;dr
Rule of thumb: If the game is slow, the delay needs to be higher. If the game doesn't go faster even though you increased the delay, lower it until it "breaks even".
If the delay is still bearable, everything is fine. If the delay is large enough to truly disrupt the game, then all players have their reasons to be sad.

>> No.7742525

Getting wrecked by the CPU all day.
Tips?

>> No.7742564

>>7742525
Make more marines

>> No.7742578

>>7742525
Build a wall around your base. Even if you go for economy, make sure you have always have good amount of units ready to fend off early rushes. Use one or two units to scout the map and find out where the enemies are.

>> No.7742637

Stage 6 sucked, and I thought the ally CPU was just not being helpful because of bad programming.

>> No.7742652

>>7742637

Indeed, I think it's bad programing as well. Seems rather odd that they can train their units off the townhall directly and they don't actively help you on the mission.

>> No.7742931

What the hell is wrong with Kaguyas movespeed? Is it intended to be that slow? She doesn't seem that good for being practically immobile.

>> No.7742944

I still can't network, my friends can't join, can someone help ?
thanks

>> No.7742974

>>7742944
Open ports on TCP and not UDP.

>> No.7742987

>>7742974
I'll try it thanks

>> No.7743004

>>7742931

She throws temples at you. It's a lot of AOE damage, every time I see her flinging those things I have to rush to focus her down because otherwise my troops are toast. Given her speed, I'm guessing she isn't a good offensive character, but she is great at defending an area.

>> No.7743234

>>7742974
My provider or something, doesn't allow me to create ports or stuff, anyways i'm not that good with connections and stuff, but i still can't join or host ;_;

>> No.7743322

>>7743234
If your friend has open ports and he hosts. All you have to do is connect you do not need to open ports too

>> No.7743365

I always feel like I'm doing well, destroying half of the CPU's base but then it upgrades to Lunatic and starts pumping out hundreds of units and I can't cope. Feels bad to be losing to the normal CPU when there isn't even much unit variety.

>> No.7743384

Anyone feel like playing a netplay match?

>> No.7743380
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>>7743322
Nope she doesn't.
Seems that I can't multiplay after all.

>> No.7743402

>>7743384
I'm up for one. There's probably some other people around too
I can't host though.

>> No.7743427

if my ping ain't too low, i'll join
i suck though

>> No.7743428

>>7743427
>low
slow

>> No.7743444

>>7743384
>>7743402
87.156.205.236:37564

Please make you that you have updated to 1.1

>> No.7743472

>>7743444
for some reason i can't connect, it says "reception failed"
nevermind, please find someone else

>> No.7743483

>>7743472
tried again by not copy-pasting the IP
worked this time

>> No.7743525
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7743525

Could some nice anon help me with this, please?

>> No.7743555

>>7743525

>>7740747

>> No.7743757

>>7743555
Already tried that. It's still the same.

>> No.7743782

TeaFairy here.

GG guys, Iroha, your units still killed me after you lost. That was a hilarious defeat.

>> No.7743788

>>7743782
>>7743784
Yeah, GG. It was fun

>> No.7743784

gg, that was a pretty long game

i didn't realize yellow was attacking blue until the post-game map reveal..

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7743791

oh and that beer resource was really really precious..

>> No.7743820

Is there Mokou in this game?
If yes, how much does she suck?

>> No.7743829

>>7743784
>>7743788
I'm going to host tomorrow at the same time if you guys feel like playing again.

>> No.7743853

>>7743820
No. Which is weird because I assumed there would be a human village faction with Mokou, Keine and Akyuu.

>> No.7743866

>>7743853

well, maybe there would be patches or something.

>> No.7743882

>>7743853
>>7743866

That's a good thing that I may point out in the recording tomorrow.

>> No.7746237

i hope this will become one of the more netplayed games in /jp/, just like the old SWR and MB days

>> No.7746276

>>7746237
There seems to be alot of issues with FPS dropping in netplay

>> No.7746279

>>7742931
In Touhou Pocket Wars she had the spellcard "Unsolvable [Immobile NEET]" and in the strategy-RPG Tenshi's Counterattack, she had a glorious movement of 0, making even slowpoke Yuka look good.

>> No.7746310

Here is something fun I found out for the Undergroud team:

Building a fountain gives you 1 zombie fairy for each fountain you have when you research a new tech. Note that this is NOT limited to the maximum amount of units.

So if you build 20, 30 or even more of them and then research every single tech you'll get easily over 200 units in a few seconds.

Enemy is about to destroy you? Use it to get a quick 200+ units to defend your base. It's also useful for attacking, the fairies can easily destroy a town center if a player has just used most of his units to attack someone else.

>> No.7746368

>>7746276
it's still very playable though
probably the worst thing was that I had to double right click to make sure all commands went through, so it wasn't that bad

>> No.7746369
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7746369

2nd, level what am I supposed to do now?

>> No.7746375

>>7746279
>0 movement
okay, i need to start playing again, didn't get kaguya the last time.
Anyone knows dl links?

>> No.7746376

>>7746369
create 1 of each magic circle
read the damn objective on top

>> No.7746380 [DELETED] 

>>7746376
Maybe if I could read the damn objective.

>> No.7746384

>>7746376
What makes you think I can read moon?

>> No.7746391

>>7746380
Well, what's stopping you from learning Japanese? Yep, nothing. Buckle up and hit those books, anon.

>> No.7746392

>>7746384
>>>/a/

>> No.7746400

>>7746276
>There seems to be alot of issues with FPS dropping in netplay
Just try to play with others, not too far from eachothers' relative positions, and try to not set the delay too low.
You should be able to get 40fps+ without too much trouble even when playing with strangers from afar, I estimate.

But really, the game is quite playable even with low fps, it just, takes time in a game that can already take a while. But 40fps+ is perfectly fine.
And if you aren't too far from eachother, such as WC with WC, EC with EC, EU with EU etc, you might even get full fps.

>> No.7746497

>>7746392
>>>/a/

>> No.7746585

I am currently uploading my review of the game. It's around 20 minutes long and it contains some heavy spanish accent. I will post the link it here when it's up.

I gotta say, I like this game alot.

>> No.7746598

>>7746375
There's two in this thread.
Atleast read the thread before posting.

>> No.7746596

>>7746497
>>>/a/

>> No.7746610

>>7746585
can't you just speak in spanish and add english soft subtitles?

>> No.7746654

>>7746610

I'd rather use english and add CC in english and then in spanish. That works better, right?

>> No.7746655

>>7746610
>>7746610
>>7746610

This this this.

I'd love to hear a fellow Spanish-speaking person say Touhou names. It sounds so weird when I say them out loud to myself.

>> No.7746659

>>7746654

> I'd rather use english and add CC in english

Just speak Spanish (assuming that's your native language) and add english CC. Less work.

>> No.7746661

>>7746659
agreed

>> No.7746665

Why not just play sc2?

>> No.7746667

I seem to be having the same problem as >>7741215
The bgm won't play at all. I've tried all the links to the game in this thread, but the problem's still there. Any idea what to do?

>> No.7746668

>>7746665
Why play SC2?

>> No.7746676

>>7746659

But I like doing unnecessary work, since I have nothing else to do for a while!

>> No.7746687

>>7746667

Maybe you have a directX problem? Th13 had a direct X installer, maybe you can use that. If not, try getting the latest one. That SHOULD fix the problem.

>> No.7746735

>>7746665
SC2 is a shitty rts. Age of Empires is much better.

>> No.7746745

now what would a touhou Command and Conquer be like? i'd love to see incredibly low-budget live action scenes with people cosplaying touhous/highly unconvincing green-screen effects.

>> No.7746761

>>7746665
Because I already do.

>> No.7746819

>>7746745

The Hakurei would be GDI, since they get their funds cut during the first war, and the Moriya would be NOD, trying to sabotage GDI and controlling the world with their followers.

Perfect game if you ask me.

>> No.7746963

>>7746667

>>7746687 is correct. Just downloading X3DAudio1_6.dll won't work. You need to do a full install of DirextX9, get it from microsoft's site. I used directx_Jun2010_redist.exe.

>> No.7747093

Favorite touhou to play as so far?

>> No.7747111

>>7747093
Ghost faction. The GLA like tunnels are very useful. The 3 fairies are also fun but they become kind of useless later on.

>> No.7747258

>>7747093

What the person above me said. Yukari's gaph tunnels make your Book units a really powerful force to be afraid of.

Basically the only disadvantage the book have is movement speed, but with those gaphs you can just have them at the enemy's doorstep within second of being created. Pretty nasty.

>> No.7747284

aren't books siege units?
what's the point of building the red and green books? i always go blue.

>> No.7747301

>>7747284
Red does more damage to building than blue.
Each has their advantages and disadvantages.

>> No.7747305

>>7747301
dont they also have a rock paper scissor counter between them?

>> No.7747349

>>7747305

They do, but blue books are just obcene overall. High damage, high range, splash damage.

Anyway, related to the topic. My review is up and ready to watch.
http://youtu.be/EYpEwYwaSCQ

Adding CC to it later today.

>> No.7747393

The blue books have the slowest projectile speed so it's possible to avoid or reduce damage with good micro. The green books are better against units because they do splash damage to everything in a line, while red books are purely for wrecking buildings. The blue books are the in-between.

Books do seem like they kill fairies too easily for cost though. Their one downside would be their long build time.

>> No.7747398

>>7747393

Long build time and slow movement speed are their disadvantages.

>> No.7747683

>>7747393
oh the books, i was thinking in the general colors, wont books be the equivalent of rams(red), scorpions(green) and mangonel(blue)? meaning the red book is only really effective against buildings

>> No.7747703

>>7747683

That's a possibility, yes. It makes sense actually. But I would put the blue books as the Rock throwers, since the mangonels do not outreach defensive structures.

>> No.7747707

>>7747393
The books are your siege units.
Rams and catapults etc.

It is a given that they are vulnrable against generic units when it comes to an open fight even though they can wreck havoc with them under the right circuimstances.

>> No.7747714

Anyone netplaying?

>> No.7747712

>>7747683
If you mean fairies then yes there is a bit of rock-paper-scissor thing going on. Red beats blue because they have fastest move speed and pierce armor. Green beats red because when red gets close all of green's spreadshot can hit for max damage. Blue beats green because blue has longer range and faster move so they can kite green.

>> No.7747745

>>7747714
I'll set one up.

87.156.203.155:37564

Make sure you use version 1.1.

>> No.7747798

>>7747745
Still hosting?

>> No.7747998

GG guys. Could rehost if you want another match.

>> No.7748001

>>7747798
>>7747745

King here GG TeaFairy Ano and BOBB

Almost lost when BOBB stroke me when I was sieging Ano but since BOBB units weren't Lunatic level I was able to fight back

I won by sheer outproducing everyone

Oh I managed to get the White Book it seems to give an aura but no idea of the actual effects of it.

>> No.7748003

>>7747745
GG

>> No.7748008

Ok, that was a rather great game if I may so myself.
The connection also wasn't that bad, alternating between 30-50 fps for most part.

I almost thought it didn't go that bad for me this time around, but I lost in the end anyway. But it was tons of fun. It is an interesting game, it really is, and it certainly reminds one of old classic Age of Empires. I like that.

Still stuff I don't really understand about this game though, like most spellcard abillities that aren't simply damage. The aura of the gray/dark book you unlock at lunatic level, and some of the upgrades.

>> No.7748020

>>7748001
>Almost lost when BOBB stroke me when I was sieging Ano
Was attacked by two people you know. Wanted to go on the offensive, but in such a situation that's kind of harsh.
Luckily I could run between your armies and make them collide without losing as much myself. Still lost in the end though, had I just payed more attention to what was needed long term, and less on staying on the defensive, I would have doubled the amount of blue circles I had when I still had the chance. The number of resources I had were great, truly.

>> No.7748023

87.156.203.155:37564
Open again.
Version 1.1 again.

>> No.7748028

Teafairy. Did you by chance not have the option on for replays to be saved? Or was I required to do something as well?

>> No.7748260

Good game. The CPU had the highest score! I think I need to learn better unit composition, I just randomly threw together a bunch of each.

>> No.7748263

GG again everyone

I think the computer might be too tough I was surprised at how fast he advanced difficulty

The Moriya Shrine faction has a problem with beer since almost all units require it and their resource buildings produces faith.

And I just realized I could have spammed books and not have worried about beer at all.

>> No.7748265

GG guys. Nearly killed the bot, his town center had 180 hp left. Damn!

>> No.7748278

>>7748265
Oh that's right. With that current game mode I could have waltzen in with 100 faireis or so, aiming for the stronghold and try to defend offensively, couldn't I?

That slipped right pass me as I didn't consider the game mode. With all of them bashing on your wall, I bet I could have managed, rather than going +-0 by going in against the troops directly.

>> No.7748280

>>7748265
Yeah, that was really close. Luckily I made it there just in time

We would have lost without the cpu around

gg everyone

>> No.7748296

I'll be hosting tomorrow at the same time again if there's nobody else hosting. Maybe we'll manage to get 8 players.

>> No.7748307

>>7748296

I'll probably be around again. Now time to watch the replay and copy what the CPU did.

>> No.7748315

>>7748307
The CPU only lasted so long because Iroha managed to get there fast enough to save his ass though.

We also don't know if he had a resource bonus or something.

I believe he had.

>> No.7748333

I also believe the chat will work in FFA if everyone sets themselves to no team

Which is the grey option

>> No.7748350

>>7748333

Grey option says ランダム　(random).

>> No.7748356

>>7748350
Ah. Then I'm lost on what to for FFA chating

>> No.7748368

So, someone up to writing a guide with all the information we found out?

>> No.7748374

>>7748368
I think you are better off starting a wikia
More informative

>> No.7748397

>>7748374
The en.touhouwiki should be good enough, we can just link to the page of the game at the start of the netplay threads.

The page doesn't exist yet, I'd create it but I don't have an account there nor do I know how to work with wikis.

>> No.7748394

>>7748368

Tomorrow I may have some time to do such a thing here.

>> No.7748511

>>7748397
Yeah me either. I'm not sure how the touhou wiki works either

>> No.7748746

http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Age_of_Ethanols

>> No.7748940 [DELETED] 

Oh
So this is straight off the official website

You send a message to the opposing team during a fight Q..

"The * at the beginning of the message you can send a message to all players."

Anyone here who can host so we can do a quick test?

>> No.7749402

how do you heal units in this game?

>> No.7749435

>>7749402
Only fraction capable of healing is the factor reisen is in, via supply house that also serves as a clinic

>> No.7749476

discovered cheats so far
【チートコード】

・ the world　　　　　→　？？？
・ luna clock　　　　　→　作成・建設等の速度上昇
・ private square　　→　？？？
・ little bug storm　　→　？？？
・ pandemonium　　　→　人口上限999化
・ pandemonium of the same oni　→　ユニット作成・建物建設上限∞化
・ tengu psychography　　→　　　　マップ全体可視化
・ magic butterfly　　→　　　　　　　魔力＋10000
・ the great galaxy of spiritus　→　酒＋10000
・ mountain of faith　　　→　　　　　信仰＋10000
・ score desire eater　　→　　　　　得点＋10000
・ blood of asura　　　　→　　　　　　？？？
・ next history　　　　　→　　　　　勢力・ユニットグレードアップ

>> No.7749817

>>7749476
Is it possible to get anything similar to the Kobra in this game? Man those things were beast against everything except walls, gates, and castles.

>> No.7749851

yea, when I start story mode i have 10 fps.. my computer should easily make this, any suggestions?

>> No.7749872

>>7749476
I tried to translate these to the best of my abilities.

・ the world → ？？？
・ luna clock → increase construction, resource gathering and research speed
・ private square → same as luna clock but even faster
・ little bug storm → ？？？
・ pandemonium → set unit limit to 999
・ pandemonium of the same oni → remove build limits from all units and buildings (heroes, town centers etc.)
・ tengu psychography → reveal the map and remove fog of war, so you can see everything
・ magic butterfly → +10000 mushrooms
・ the great galaxy of spiritus → +10000 beer
・ mountain of faith → +10000 faith
・ score desire eater → +10000 score
・ blood of asura → ？？？
・ next history → advance to the next age/difficulty

>>7749817
It's possible there's something like that, since there's also voice commands from AOE like wololo in the game (type 30 in chat).

>> No.7750094

>>7749872

nice find!

>> No.7750407

Any tips on beating level 6?

>> No.7750421

>>7750407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH4w7UZV3NA

>> No.7750436

>>7750407

Let me play that stage again and see what I can do to help you there.

>> No.7750438

>>7750407
here is a recording of me playing that stage if it helps at all: http://www.twitch.tv/toastermage/b/292680004
starts at 23:30

>> No.7750456

>>7746963
>>7746687
Already tried both the directx installer that came with Ten Desires, and the June 2010 redist. Still having the same problem though

>> No.7750473

>>7750456
I'm going to redirect you and everyone else to this version of the game
>>7741236

>> No.7750495

>>7750473
That's the link I got the game from. I think there's something wrong with the directx in my PC. I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, if it helps.

>> No.7750510

>>7750407

Okay, >>7750436 speaking here. I just finished replaying the stage.

Few tips:

Right at the start, upgrade to the next difficulty, have a villager build a few houses.
Upgrade Marisa to Normal when you can, her Master spark will clear up a huge chunk of enemies at the same time.
There's a big pile of beer to the west of your base, take advantage of it.
Build 2 of each kind of spell circles, and keep spamming those units and upgrade them. Have a few of them to defend your base.
When you reach Hard, start using those books with your army, the red ones will be quite useful for taking down the strongholds in no time.
Have at least 50 to 70 villagers working all time, you will need those resources for the entire stage.

That's all I can tell you, this is what I did and I finished the stage in 45 minutes or so.

>> No.7750558

any help for my extremely low fps?
Dual Core CPU 2.3 Ghz, 4gb ram, nvidia gforce 9100m g, windows 7 32 bit

>> No.7750569

>>7750495
If you also tried downloading X3DAudio1_6.dll separately first then delete that.
I'm the first guy with the same problem and just installing the june_2010 fixed it for me but I am using 32bit Win7. Hope for someone using 64bit to confirm it working then the problem might be something else. Also I'm using the unpatched game then manually patched it.
I'm not much into tech, sorry, I can't help you further.

>> No.7750589

How to beat stage 8? Is it even possible?

I managed to destroy 2 town centers with my blue fairies but then always get overrun. I've tried using red books instead of fairies but they take too long to build to be useful.
Any hints for this stage?

>> No.7750597

>>7750558
i'm running the game perfectly fine at
win7 x86
cpu core2duo 2.0Ghz
ram 3GB
gpu GeForce 8600M GT

this includes both windowed and fullscreen, as well as multiple cpu opponents (though there's a tiny slowdown after a while if it's 7 cpu)

>> No.7750603

>>7750558
I'm even running this on my piece of shit machine
pentium 4 @ 2.8ghz
3gb of ram
9400GT
Windows xp 32-bit
Alot of issues may be related to windows 7?

>> No.7750614

>>7750589

Right at the start, spam books and destroy as many town centers as you can right at the begining.
The longer it take you to do this, the harder the mission will be, so you have to destroy at least one side entirely (3 or 5 townhalls down) with anything you have. A mix of Blue and red books will do the job pretty well.

>> No.7750641

>>7750589
Use the icon with the finger pointing and ONLY written at the bottom to make troops go where you want them to and keep them behind the shield wall
Use blue troops (not blue books) as much as possible and a mix of green troops and books after that
Do not use red troops, only build red books, store them at the shrine in the beginning and use them to clean up houses with low defenses nearing the end of the level
I built a few more blue circles with 4 workers at the beginning, right after that I built only Marisa (to destroy buildings) and the white books that costs 1200 magic and 1200 religion for the big magic circle that increases def of your units a lot

>> No.7750667

damn, I just don't know what to do to fix the fps drop changing the compatibility mode didn't work so far

>> No.7750668

Okuu spell is just crazy strong makes early game pushing almost impossible

>> No.7750686

>>7750668
it's an aoe damage around herself, right?
what does satori's and the other black cat of ill omen do?

>> No.7750713
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7750713

How does stealth with the 3 fairies work? Are my units/buildings invisible unless they attack or can enemies see them if they come close enough?

>> No.7750744

>>7749872

How do you type these?

>> No.7750866

>>7750686
It's an AOE that instant kills everything if you are caught inside

>> No.7750940

>>7750686

Orin creates an aura that damages all enemies caught inside. The aura follows her, obviously, and leaves behind a trail for some time, which also damages enemies. It also affects buildings. Think of her as a high speed moving vulcano, with boiling lava around and behind her. Spamming her spell late game when you have tons of Power is simply broken, specially with the red troops which are as fast as her.

No idea about Satori's power.

>> No.7750957

>>7750589

I actually recommend you to not make any blue books, as it seems the enemy town centers gain a range boost when attacked by these books. From 4 range to 12 range, they start killing your units even when inside the barrier.

Just spam blue troops to kill them, and green troops to protect the barrier. Books may be stronger, but they take time to build, and you need to destroy 3 adjacent town centers as fast as possible or you will have trouble coming from everywhere. At best, a few red books for the entire match, so keep them alive.

>> No.7751126

>>7750744
Press enter in-game to open the chat and type them there.

>> No.7751147

Say, how should I setup my economy? I usually just make workers to get beet/shrooms until hitting Normal, and then start getting faith. Around 10~12 workers for beer/faith, and shroom with 7. I only build the summoning circles when researching Normal, which is done at 6 minutes, usually.

Then I make a few units after researching their upgrades, and hit Hard at around 12 minutes, when I start spamming units from 2 circles of each color. With the same 30 workers still alive.

After that, I make the breweries and spam Red troops from 7 circles because I can't find any shrine to gather faith and train the other troops.

>> No.7751182

>>7750614
>>7750641
>>7750957
Thanks for the hints. I managed to win by rushing with green and red books while using blue books to get rid of units destroying my walls.

I also found out that you can build circles where enemy town centers used to be. The enemies will ignore them and keep attacking your walls. Helps a lot because your base has limited space.

>> No.7751218

>>7750713

They work like in the same motion as the Command and conquer stealth system. If you attack, you become unstealthed, if the enemy is close to you, same thing. If you don't attack or the enemy is close to you, you will remain stealthed.

>> No.7751265

>>7751147
Just set it up to whatever fits your playstyle or faction

I'll try and take some time to update the wiki today.

>> No.7751298

I wonder if the author of the game would release patches for some small game balance related things or other small features.

After playing a few netplay matches I'd say that there are a few things that should be added or changed.

The 3 fairies have a serious (and probably unintended) disadvantage if you play with the town centers rule. Since they have no walls you can rush their original town center very quickly. Stealth doesn't really help because they only get this at normal, when most players have scouted your base with their hero unit already.

You could easily fix this by giving them the ability to survive as long as they have ANY(original or not) town center left. This could even be a reference to the story in OSP where the 3 fairies move to another house.

If there is anyone able and willing to translate this and get in touch with the author then you'd do me a great favor.

>> No.7751329

Any idea what Alice's explisives/dynamite/C4 does?

>> No.7751337

>>7751329
Alice units explode when they die. They do more damage upon exploding with each upgrade(As far as I know)

It's pretty crucial to have this upgrade before you do anything attacking wise with alice

>> No.7751346

>>7751298
Wouldn't a better sulotion be to render their stronghold invisible or something?

>> No.7751394

>>7751346
The problem is that stealth is removed if you are close enough. So if someone would see worker fuzzballs they would just scout around the area until they find the towncenter and just rush that spot later like they can do now.

Another solution would be to let them rebuild their town center somewhere else.

>> No.7751413

>>7751394
This essentially leaves them in an entirely different game mode than the others, givden they don't play that specific game mode.

>> No.7751424

>>7751298
That's the major disadvantage when playing town hall and fairies I guess.

But then again that can happen to anyone when the game drags on to a very late game. Walls become useless around hard and completely useless around Lunatic. Since any huge army will down a single wall within 2-3 seconds and just pour in.

Well what I'm trying to say is, When the game enters the players start entering Hard mode, you can't be dependent on your walls but your army

>> No.7751464

I looked into how the brewery upgrades effect sake collection rate.

Collection rates per minute for easy, normal, hard and lunatic were 20, 21, 29, 40. Compare to the in-field nodes which were 30, 30, 30, 40.

This seems to conflict with the in-game tool tips for the upgrades. They state that the rates are improved by 0.2, 0.3, and 0.3. However, given the above numbers, it seems closer to 0.15, 0.80, 0.55.

>> No.7751477

>>7751298
To make things worse for the fairies, it seems Luna's ability is pretty much useless. Even if the buildings are camouflaged, the enemy can attack them and even select them to see what building it is, and even if they don't notice anything, the dot representing that building will appear on their map when it's in their field of view even when it's hidden. It doesn't help that usually the ground will be a different color under buildings, a perfect brown rectangle shape in the middle of a grassy area is quite suspicious to say the least. Oh, and the town center usually reveals itself by shooting at enemies as well.

>> No.7751510

>>7751477
>>7751424
Also consider that the fairies don't get books for late game.

Changing that rule should act more of a setting to decide how long and complex the matches become, instead of making certain factions stronger or weaker.

Maybe they should add another option: All town centers count as original and have to be destroyed. That would pretty much solve that problem without forcing matches to become incredibly long and annoying.

>> No.7751523

>>7751394
>>7751477

Awesome skills, huh? Guess the fairies are better at rushing then. No need for houses, so they can use the initial shrooms to make the Red circle and start pouring out red troops. 10 workers collecting beer gives a sufficient income for one or two red circles. You can keep someone busy hiding inside their town center and reviving their hero units while preventing them from collecting resources and upgrading/trainning units, until you have army and tech advantage to kill him.

>> No.7751568

just theorycrafting, what if you build barracks outside of your enemy's base and use Luna to hide them? you should be able to force them on D pretty easily like that.

>> No.7751669

>>7751568
Might work. Would love to see this in action in a 1v1 play

Right now I'm experimenting like crazy with rush down builds since I don't like waiting until the 30 minute mark to actually see some action

>> No.7751676

>>7751568

Well, since it's possible to find them even if invisible, scouting would deny that.

But then again, it's easy to forget scouting on midgame...

>> No.7751707

>>7751568
You don't need Luna for that, works fine even if you just build it in the fog of war around the base. There is a variation of this using Yukaris gap which is much easier and less risky because you can move troops quickly around the map.

>> No.7751708

Upgrading Reimu strengthens the gates/fires.
Upgrading Suika enables and strengthens mini-Suikas available for training in the breweries.

Any other upgrades in conjunction with the upgrading of hero units? Or is it unique for this one faction?

>> No.7751726

>>7751708

Upgrading the SA cast gives you meele fighters. Well, actually they are stronger versions fo Reimu's worker fairies which are useless after reaching Normal tech.

>> No.7751870

Time for netplay!
93.232.168.241:37564
Version 1.1

I'm going to wait 30 minutes before starting the match so you have plenty of time to notice this and join.

>> No.7751902

Apparently, Shou can gather resources. She won't appear as an active/idle worker, though, so keep an eye on her. Also, she can build the only one tower Byakuren's faction can build. It's pretty strong when compared to normal towers, and since you can only have one for 100 faith, it's great for defending your town center.

>> No.7751912 [DELETED] 

>>7751870

Duuuude, just when I was about to test the only faction I haven't played yet? Eh, allright, I will join you guys. If the lag isn't monstrous, that is.

How many are joinning too?

>> No.7751919 [DELETED] 

>>7751870

Damn lag, why did it have to be me? ;_;

>> No.7752016

>>7751870

Chinchen here, my game apparently crashed or something. It just froze and the music kept playing.

So yeah, dunno about that.

>> No.7752019

>>7751870
Rehosting. Someone was lagging I guess. No crash but some still disconnected.

>> No.7752040

>>7752019
Again. Iroha disconnected 1 second before we started and you guys were left with a practice level bot. Oops.

>> No.7752053

>>7752019

There appears to be MASSIVE lagging going on or something. I guess I will leave this netplay for another time.

>> No.7752067

How do I change the name?

>> No.7752072

>>7752067

ConfigTool.exe

>> No.7752116

Nobody working on the wiki?

>> No.7752119

GG, we just tried out a 2 player games with both players in Europe and we had pretty much constant 60 fps.

>> No.7752125

>>7752116
I'm gonna start on it as soon as a friend of mine translates the last few abilities I haven't figured out.

It won't have actual translated names for things (someone else can fill that in later) but it will tell you what everything does.

>> No.7752127

>>7752119
GG TeaFairy. I forgot to give new commands to my workers after they had exhausted the first pile of beer, that didn't end well. Oh well.

>> No.7752148

Gonna try another one to test some other settings.
93.232.145.226:37564
Highest FPS if everyone is from Europe though, otherwise we'll get 20-30.

>> No.7752222

Ok, the grey book aura gives 0.1/0.1 to armor. The black book aura gives +10% damage.

>> No.7752234

Bump so more people will see this.

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>>7752222
You have failed to stop Sudo, go to Prison.

>> No.7752358

GG, I had to give up because I couldn't even build workers anymore. Looks like I played too slow!

>> No.7752372

>>7752358

>>7752148

GG TeaFairy. To be honest, I didn't really expect to cause so much damage with just a few units. You had the right idea with the wall and green troops, but the area you tried to cover was too big.


The lag screwed me many times.

>> No.7752376 [DELETED] 

Actually...am I the only one who doesn't build walls that early in the game? They feel like a waste of wood to me. Only after the initial engage I start building them.

>> No.7752381

Actually...am I the only one who doesn't build walls that early in the game? They feel like a waste of wood to me. Only after the initial engage I start building them.

Also, are you up for another game? I just discovered I was downloading SWING HOLIC the entire time. We may have a lagless game!

>> No.7752396

>>7752381
>They feel like a waste of wood to me. Only after the initial engage I start building them.
If you build them early enough they can help you stop enemies from harassing you with insufficient troops. They also cost faith, and not even much of it. And you don't even use faith for anything other than upgrades and going into hard and lunatic level, well, for that and certain troops.
So you don't really need to lose much as you can easily have regained the faith by the time you would need to use it.

>> No.7752400

>>7752381
93.232.185.75:37564
Located in Europe in case someone wants to join us.

>> No.7752413

>>7752396
>They also cost faith

5 faith per segment. You can't build a long enough wall with the initial 200 faith. That's, like, 40 squares, and I'd rather use these 200 for quick upgrades.

With the initial wood I can build enough houses and maybe a Circle, and with every worker gathering beer, I can reach N tech much quicker. With the initial faith, I upgrade the troops and the misc researched with no delay.

Might just be my playstyle speaking, though. I have yet to test this defensive build.

>> No.7752418

>>7752400

Strange. Connection is failing.

Oh well. Gonna give it a try agian tomorrow. Nothing I tried right now has worked.

>> No.7752518

GG
>>7752418
I thought you already changed your mind so we already started the match. Apologies!

>> No.7752527

>>7752413
You can't build upgrades early. You can't get upgrades at all until normal level actually.
And you know, walls, they only cost faith. So no mushrooms or beer. And while 200 isn't enough. If you have workers gathering faith, you should have gotten enough to not only build a decent wall, but also enough to afford upgrades by the time you reach normal.

Upgrading to normall costs 500 alcohol, and while you could get there relatively fast by focusing on it, still takes a while even at its fastest, and depending on how many workers you build (50 alcohol each) it can delay this time further just a bit.

Simply by having one or two workers gathering faith you should get enough for a decent wall by the time you hit normal.

>> No.7752542

>>7752518
Yeah, GG.
Didn't think my output was that bad. My resource income great was quite high I believe, yet I failed the queing of more houses, having the worker somehow build herself in, and well, I suppose I should have been quicker overall.
Couldn't reach lunatic in time due to a mishap, and well, the macro of my home base wasn't the best I guess.

You still got me quite good with those troops though. Too bad I messed up maxing out my unit cap as planned, considering I could easily afford it. But good game.
Also, my Marisa strangely disappeared, I really couldn't find her anywhere, and I checked all the buildings... The game should have some kind of button to let you find them.

>> No.7752556

>>7752527
>>7752413
I think it depends on the kind of match you're having. 1vs1? Might want to skip building a wall.

Gigantic map with 6-8 players? Better build a wall fast, you could even get lucky and block scouting hero units by the time you have finished it.

>> No.7752560

>>7752556

New thread

>>7752555

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