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Cross†Channel - Sekien no Inganock Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:45:48 No.7718697 [Reply] [Original]

Alright, what are your opinions on Cross†Channel and Sekien no Inganock?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:46:47 No.7718701 No Korean mmo reported.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:48:18 No.7718713 Inganock is pretty good. Cross Channel is mediocre at best.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:50:18 No.7718723 >Cross Channel is mediocre at best. No, you piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:50:50 No.7718722 Inganock is okay/good Cross Channel is bad

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:51:18 No.7718731 >>7718723 Don't, dude. You're talking to the /jp/ equivalent of a hipster. The mere fact that a VN is translated earns it his ire

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:51:18 No.7718732 Inganock is uninteresting and repetitive. Interesting artstyle, but furryshit everywhere. Good OST too. Cross channel has pretty good characters and some absolutely genius plot twists. Storywise it's great.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:52:48 No.7718735 Haven't gotten to Inganock yet. Cross Channel left me unimpressed.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:53:19 No.7718739 Inganock was pretty good. Cross channel was also pretty good. I'd probably say I enjoyed Cross Channel more, but only because of Youko.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:54:18 No.7718744 Cross Channel is 10/10 god tier eroge Inganock is furry disney shit

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:56:52 No.7718753 >>7718731 ...you are aware that Sekien no Inganock is translated too, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:59:27 No.7718768 All the "What a Beautiful" series VNs are overrated as shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:59:27 No.7718772 >>7718768 Yeah, sure. Can't rmember the alst time someone sung praises of Valusia.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 18:59:27 No.7718773 >>7718753 ..you realize that what I'm saying is he would be saying they would be BETTER were they not translated, right? Because that's what I said. In plain English. Please read more carefully Anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:01:27 No.7718779 They are both shit. Forest and SubaHibi on the other hand...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:01:27 No.7718780 >>7718772 Ixrec gave it a 9 which means it's better than Subahibi.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:02:27 No.7718784 >>7718780 OKay, Ixrec is the only one who would. The only part I really liked in the game was the art, the last chapter just went down the shitter. The whole novel would have been better if it was about Nanai.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:03:27 No.7718786 >>7718772 Forest >>>> Kusarihime >>>> Cannon Ball >>> Sharnoth > Valusia > Sona-Nyl > Inganock > Celenaria True story.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:03:27 No.7718787

Cross Channel was amazing, the writing was cleverly done and the ending hit hard.

Inganock was a tad lacking in story, but it fit its subtitle "What a Beautiful People" well. The theme of ordinary persons struggling to survive in an unfathomable hell was well executed, and the OST and attention to backstory exemplary.

Overall I absolutely loved Cross Channel, while Inganock is certainly a recommended read.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:04:27 No.7718789 >>7718779 >SubaHibi Shiiiiiiiit.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:05:27 No.7718791

>>7718780
Good news is, all of the truly severe cases of bloat are easy enough to identify that you can just ctrl them without hesitation and get back to the good stuff. In the end most of the above was more of a huge nuisance than a fatal flaw, and the story was never in danger of completely losing its momentum or intrigue.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:05:27 No.7718793

Both are great. The writing of Cross†Channel is awesome and give you a lot to think with just a few clever placed words.
Inganock, although repetitive sometimes is also great because of the atmosphere of it, its the only game I played where I was ok even if nothing hapened( however there is always something hapening), just to be imersed in the Fantastic city is a great experience.
However these two titles are ones I wouldnt recommend to everyone... The unic feel attached to them can be the best thing ever or the worse shit ever written depending on your perception of it.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:06:27 No.7718795

>>7718773
No, dude.
What you said is
>You're talking to the /jp/ equivalent of a hipster. The mere fact that a VN is translated earns it his ire
about
>Inganock is pretty good.
>Cross Channel is mediocre at best.
How does calling a translated VN pretty good turn into being a hipster and disliking all translated VNs in your head, I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:06:27 No.7718796 >>7718786 >liking cannon call >valusia above anything Nope.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:08:27 No.7718798 File: 119 KB, 444x580, cuntpunch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7718791 >2011 >you can just ctrl I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:09:23 No.7718802 >>7718795 Okay Anon, you've out-internet-argued me. You win. I'm sorry I called you a hipster. Do you feel better now?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:10:53 No.7718803 >>7718796 And what the fuck is so bad about Valusia compared to all the others?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:11:24 No.7718807

I loved Cross Channel. Great story and characters, and its the first VN were I liked the voice acting, as it was usually just a hindrance to my reading speed.
Cross Channel also doubled as a giant nostalgiafest because I played Nanaca Crash to death many year ago.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:11:53 No.7718809

Cross†Channel sucked, I dont know what was so great about it, it was convoluted as fuck and the main character was a asshole. Also most of the characters were boring,at least the ones you saw the most. I swear Misato Miyasumi was the most boring heroine i ever had to read. Miki and the blue haired bitch were also annoying. The actual decent characters, got no screen time/development at all or got shafted.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:13:56 No.7718811 >>7718809 >it was convoluted as fuck and the main character was a asshole What's the matter, too ALPHA for you?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:14:54 No.7718814 Both were to deep for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:14:54 No.7718816 The only good thing to come from Cross†Channel is Nanaca Crash

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:16:41 No.7718824 >>7718807 >Nanaca Crash http://megami.starcreator.com/nanaca-crash/ My god, it still exists.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:17:41 No.7718827 >>7718816 >Nanaca Crash Welp, there goes the rest of my week!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:19:21 No.7718835 Anyone who doesn't like Cross Channel doesn't have a soul.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:19:41 No.7718833
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CC was pretty shitty.

It had a graeat ending and some good bits here and there, but they were buried under tons of retarded pantsu jokes and repetitions. (and the novel didn't even have a decent skip fuction, what the fuck)

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:21:27 No.7718838 >>7718833 After one hour or so CC become one of the most entertaining VN out there with hardly a dull moment. You think it's bad because you have no taste, as expected of an Umineko fag

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:23:41 No.7718843

>>7718838
>After one hour or so CC become one of the most entertaining VN out there with hardly a dull moment.

No, it doesn't. After the mind blowing plot twist it starts again with the pantsu jokes and the repetitions text

>You think it's bad because you have no taste, as expected of an Umineko fag

>Use an umineko reactionface
>Is an uminekofag

Your logic is perfect, i really can't see nothing wrong with it.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:25:49 No.7718848

>>7718809
>convoluted as fuck
So you've essentially admitted that the writing, which the rest of us followed easily, was on a level too difficult for you.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons to dislike something, lacking reading comprehension is NOT one of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:26:49 No.7718849 Complete crap.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:27:39 No.7718850

>>7718843
>After the mind blowing plot twist it starts again with the pantsu jokes and the repetitions text
The repetitive text come from the fact that it's a loop and you really overstate it, starting from Kiri's loop the game become really interesting.
And the "pantsu jokes" like you call are integral to Taichi's character and are most of the time pretty clever. But the game isn't about them, it's not a comedy.
You are just retarded, that's all.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:27:39 No.7718851 >>7718848 >complicated = good! What are you, twelve?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:28:39 No.7718853 >>7718848 Um no, It was convoluted as fuck, without going crazy with it you wouldn't know shit. He also got fucking superpowers out of nowhere, the whole story was random. It had nothing to do with reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:29:39 No.7718857 >>7718851 He didn't say it was complicated, he said it was too complicated for you. CC isn't hard to get, it's not convoluted either, you just lack reading comprehension and/or a brain.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:30:39 No.7718861 >>7718851 that's not how you quote someone.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:30:39 No.7718864 >>7718853 How does it feel to be brain dead?

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:31:12 No.7718869 >>7718864 Probably wouldn't feel like much of anything, really.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:31:12 No.7718870
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>>7718850
>The repetitive text come from the fact that it's a loop and you really overstate it, starting from Kiri's loop the game become really interesting.

This doesn't stop it from being annoying as fuck. The execution could have been better, and more importantly they could have added a skip fuction that actually worked.

>And the "pantsu jokes" like you call are integral to Taichi's character

Well yeah, Taichi is fucking clown, lolusofunny.

>nd are most of the time pretty clever.

Yeah, if you are 12

>But the game isn't about them, it's not a comedy.

Then why is 90% made of pantsu jokes?

>You are just retarded, that's all.

derp

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:34:16 No.7718881 Do you guys enjoy anything?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:34:16 No.7718886 >>7718864 I'm pretty sure without taking time going into the deep part of it ,you really wouldn't understand 85% of the shit that happened or even the point of the story. It was really convoluted and didn't have a good set path.

>>	Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:35:10 No.7718888 Inganock is too furry for me, and I don't really like the themes in Cross Channel, not to mention I'm not a Romeo fan.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:36:10 No.7718893 >>7718881 Not translated visual novels, no.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:36:10 No.7718896 >>7718881 I enjoy VNs that have a plot beyond "LOLSCHOOL" for the first two hours.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:38:47 No.7718904

>>7718870
>Well yeah, Taichi is fucking clown, lolusofunny.
As I see it, its not comic relief as you see it everywhere else. In CC, all of Taichi's jokes are there to show how fucked up in the head he is. He can't stop behaving that way, he really is one-third retarded.
That's how I see it, anyways.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:40:47 No.7718912 >>7718896 What do you have against schools, Anon. >>7718893 Damned hipsters reading their eroge in Jap at Starbucks while drinking german coffee!!

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:42:47 No.7718920

>>7718886
Reading things at face value is elementary-school level, you know. Higher reading involves drawing the correct conclusions from the given clues, and if one can't do even that while others can, how can one have the authority to judge the work in question?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:43:47 No.7718921 >>7718912 Don't forget, on their iPads, even!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:44:47 No.7718925 >>7718912 >>7718921 >mfw I do that >mfw I have no face

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:45:47 No.7718930 >>7718925 You better not show that face of yours around here anymore either!

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:46:47 No.7718935 >>7718920 Oh come on, Some parts were just a little out of nowhere and could of at least been explained a bit. The setting could of also been explained a little more.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:47:47 No.7718939 >>7718935 The more you don't explain, the deeper your story. It's writing 101, friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:48:47 No.7718941 ITT OPINIONS

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:49:47 No.7718942 >>7718941 Well, yea. Doesn't the OP ask for our opinions?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:49:47 No.7718944 >>7718939 I really don't think DEEPNESS means your story is any better.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:50:47 No.7718946

OP never mentioned a comparison. Ya'll just did the trolling for him.

In my own humble, subjective, non-invasive opinion I enjoyed both VNs immensely and would not trade either reading experience for any other. I feel that both novels take their time in getting to their first big hook, but I would also say that those first hooks were wildly successful. Inganock would have better for me if there were a bit more of a humanizing factor to Kia rather than childlike innocence. The tired and worn brightened by young and bright paradigm always seems like a cop-out to me. In Cross+Channel I thought Misato's route was undeniably lacking and that the conclusion of Kiri's route could have been handled better.

That being said, I would second the motion that those who do not enjoy Cross+Channel most likely do not have souls.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:51:47 No.7718949

>>7718944
Of course not. But by being deep it tricks the less intelligent readers into believing that it is good. Don't explain everything > readers form their own conclusions and think about stuff themselves > readers believe the project is deep just because the writer was lazy > readers believe the project is good because it is deep.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:51:47 No.7718950 >>7718870 You must be some kind of retarded landwhale. OH GOD PANTIES, MOE AND SCHOOL IT'S SHIT. Why are you playing eroge you retard?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:53:47 No.7718955

>>7718935
Literally everything of value to the story is explained or inferred. Every loose end is tied up, the very few that were not were left to the extra materials and Tower of Friends.

If you read and understood Cross Channel, there should be little to no questions in your mind. If there are, someone else has arrived at the answers from the same source, the game itself.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:54:11 No.7718958 File: 96 KB, 800x600, nanaca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7718824 Hell yeah, motherfuckers.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:57:13 No.7718961 >>7718944 If vapid stories where everything is clearly dictated and spoonfed to you are what you prefer, than sure you can go back to reading Bleach and Naruto and other childrens' books as you will enjoy them much more.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 19:58:17 No.7718964 >>7718961 Woah, I think you need to calm down hipster. DEEP =/= good.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:02:13 No.7718971 Speaking of inganock: can someone explain the ending? What happened with Gii and Kia after the fantastic city vanished? Are the still alive?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:04:13 No.7718979
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm724937
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm725221
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm725541
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm725799

After watching this two hour-long set of videos, Nanaca Crash is over for me, I can never play it again.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:04:43 No.7718977 >>7718961 You sound fucking retarded, thats like calling zeta gundam,Lupin the 3rd,sdf macross not good because its not deep.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:06:13 No.7718985

The more you brandish unspecific terminology rather than providing detailed explanations of what you actually mean the more your words cease to have meaning.

There's a lovely video from Noam Chomsky that goes over the basics of just that around the term 'concision'. Perhaps some of you would benefit from searching such a thing in Google.

>>	that damn zombie !FairYK4wpI Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:06:43 No.7718984 File: 253 KB, 1193x923, nanaca.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7718958 I'm not even sure how this happened, but it's never getting deleted from my hard drive.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:09:44 No.7718991 >>7718979 Fucking nips...

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:11:17 No.7718999 >>7718984 Perhaps you've heard of cookies.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:12:15 No.7719002

>>7718977
More like, I argue that being "deep" is but one quality that defines a work, and that disliking a work on such grounds is sheer idiocy.

Deep != bad, disliking something for being as such when it is used legitimately as a device to convey a story may be one opinion a person can have, but unfortunately it is a wrong opinion motivated by the wrong reasons.

that damn zombie !FairYK4wpI Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:15:15 No.7719006

>>7718999
Or even Photoshop, but it doesn't matter since that guy on Nico tripled my score. I was actually getting bored of it by that point, so I guess I'm somewhat thankful I didn't end up going on to 150k. Still, it was some ridiculous luck I had that time.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:15:16 No.7719009 >>7719002 Nobody is saying that deep = bad. But the idea that because something is deep it is good, or that deep is a positive quality is false. Some people like it sure, but that doesn't mean it makes the work better necessarily.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:19:17 No.7719022

P.S.: There is almost no philosophy whatsoever in the entirety of the story, and the book quotes are sparse after the prologue, acting primarily as something for characters to talk about once in a long while between more important subplots. You need not understand nor have read any of the books SubaHibi references in order to understand the entirety of SubaHibi.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:20:15 No.7719025 >>7719022 Yea but regardless, SubaHibi is rubbish.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:31:17 No.7719055

>>7719025

You're an idiot.

He's quoting Ixrec's ridiculously terrible and trollish review.

Ixrec did the same thing with Rewrite. He's been absolutely refusing to give VNs a score higher than 9 anymore and justifying it as "I've already read all the good ones", and I hope we never have to suffer through him translating anything ever again.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:32:18 No.7719059 >>7719055 He hasn't reviewed anything recently that deserves a 9 or higher though so what are you complaining about?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:33:20 No.7719061 >>7719055 Why not? His TLs are good enough, and I'm sure most would prefer that to nothing.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:38:17 No.7719072

>>7719059

Oh, please. Go look back at the scores he gave to crap like Chaos;Head and G-Senjou no Maou. They don't deserve to be rated higher than Rewrite or Subahibi. I even liked Chaos;Head and it doesn't deserve higher than a 7.5.

And really, him giving 10/10 to anything at all destroys all credibility he has as a reviewer. Perfect 10s don't, by definition, exist.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:39:18 No.7719082 >>7719072 9.5 or higher rounds up to 10, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:39:19 No.7719078 >>7719061 He's responsible for some of the most retarded drama to ever happen in the western VN fandom, and I really hope you're not forgetting about what he tried to do to Alternative.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:40:18 No.7719083 >>7719072 I dunno about SubaHibi, but Rewrite isn't particularly better than Chaos Head. Terra being ok does not redeem all the shit before it.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:42:19 No.7719098 >>7719083 >Terra being ok does not redeem all the shit before it. And yet the last fifteen hours of Alternative redeems all the shit before that? And yet Coco's route redeems CHICKEN SANDWICHES?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:43:49 No.7719102 >>7719082 Never round.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:44:18 No.7719104

>>7719098
>And yet the last fifteen hours of Alternative redeems all the shit before that?
Maybe to some people, but to me. (Nor do I think the last part of Alt is particularly good). I'm not saying ixrec's reviews are good or anything, but I don't see the point in complaining about games like Rewrite getting 8.5, when that is a pretty high score for the content of the game.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:46:25 No.7719115 >>7719104 Oh, sure, I agree with you there. That'd be a fine score if Ixrec had reviewed his first few eroge properly.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:48:24 No.7719122 >>7719098 >And yet the last fifteen hours of Alternative redeems all the shit before that? Alt is shit

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:48:52 No.7719120 >>7719115 Maybe he has just matured in taste or something and decide to review more critically.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:50:20 No.7719126

>>7719120

He clearly has, but not only does he refuse to admit it, it makes newer games look worse.

That is, until you actually read his older reviews. They're hilarious.

>And on that point, it delivers in spades, with each major case containing numerous twists, many of which can probably be reasoned out in advance if you are a god or have way too much free time, but for the most part are beyond human ability to predict. Especially in the final chapter, the true nature of what's going on can be simply mind-blowing.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:51:21 No.7719128

>>7719120
It’s weird how some of the (few) people who try to support my review advance this argument, when it’s completely untrue. I do think Chaos;Head is better than SubaHibi (by a small margin, but who cares about that).
Without arguing the relative pros and cons of Chaos;Head and SubaHibi, I’ll just point out that everyone I know thinks C;H is far far worse than 9/10, and it’s very unusual for my scores to be that far from general opinion. So any attempt to criticize my SubaHibi review based on a comparison to the C;H one is pointless, because the real issue there (whatever it is) is unique to C;H and has nothing to do with any of the other games I’ve played.
Now to very briefly sum up my opinion on said relative pros/cons: Every criticism I’ve ever seen of C;H has, frankly, been laughable. I don’t see how any of them are valid and it baffles me how many people agree with them. The big thing that did bug me about C;H was that it failed to explain everything. SubaHibi also failed to explain everything (though it came significantly closer, hence it could’ve been 9.5), and on top of that had a ton of unnecessary text.
I will probably not respond to anyone trying to convince me C;H was shit.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:53:48 No.7719132
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Why did I read this thread expecting civilized discussion

I know that most eroge from the babby's first VN list usually turn into a nightmarish trolling echo chamber at some point, but I didn't think it would happen this quickly, at least not for these games. A Saya or Umineko thread merits this kind of stupidity, not CC or Inganock, give them a chance.

>>	Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:54:17 No.7719136 >>7719126 >but for the most part are beyond human ability to predict. Did he actually say that? That's pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:55:22 No.7719142 >>7719128 >Every criticism I’ve ever seen of C;H has, frankly, been laughable. I don’t see how any of them are valid and it baffles me how many people agree with them. Huh, there's someone who has the same opinion on C;H as me? Nice to know.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:55:52 No.7719139

>>7719128
>The big thing that did bug me about C;H was that it failed to explain everything.

...That is completely untrue. It explains everything, but not, perhaps, to everyone's satisfaction. The biggest problem with C;H was all the extraneous characters and sudden atmospheric shifts.

Criticism about something that self-evident is laughable to him? With lines that that, and the Alternative debacle last year, I'm still not sure whether he's trolling or just stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 20:57:23 No.7719145 >>7719136 It's right there in his review. http://amaterasu.is.moelicious.be/blog/?p=33 >>7719132 Only untranslated eroge are good, didn't you know?

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue, Aug 9, 2011 21:17:46 No.7719218 Do you even PLAY eroge.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 22:43:59 No.7719515 >>7719139 >The biggest problem with C;H was all the extraneous characters and sudden atmospheric shifts. Couldn't agree more.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 22:45:01 No.7719521 File: 739 KB, 792x595, 01.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sona-Nyl > Sharnoth > Inganock.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 22:46:04 No.7719527 >>7719515 If it was just about a yandere stalker,it would of been a 10/10.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 9, 2011 22:51:01 No.7719536 >>7719527 >would of Think for a few seconds about how a preposition can take place of a verb. I don't know what kind of answer you arrived at, but in this case it certainly cannot replace the verb which should be there: "have".

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:01:30 No.7720183 >>7719521 You just have a fetish for dark men.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:08:30 No.7720194 File: 6 KB, 350x450, 20090418_41961.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7720183

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:11:30 No.7720203 File: 24 KB, 256x367, 313.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7719521 You forgot this. Then again, everybody forgets Celenaria. Isn't it sad?

Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:30:30 No.7720254

First, Tanaka Romeo's writing style is absolutely insane. It actually manages to make me feel like every single line in the game has a point, and that if you removed any one of them the scene simply wouldn't be complete (this probably isn't true, but it sure feels like it). When asked how to describe it, I usually say it's something like a combination of Shakespeare's elaborate descriptive flourishes and Hemingway's straightforward exposition.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:39:30 No.7720265 >>7720254 Oh Ixrec, you so crazy.

>>	Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:41:30 No.7720268 >People who didn't like CC Kill yourselves. Also, Inganock was alright too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:42:30 No.7720269 >>7720265 I hope you're not implying Shakespeare is a good writer. Suicide is awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:45:30 No.7720276 >>7720269 I hope for your sake you're not implying he isn't.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:49:30 No.7720285 >>7720276 Maybe if you think dying for love is sad and romantic. Otherwise,no.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 03:49:30 No.7720286 http://ezmodu.blogspot.com/2011/06/tsundere-route-spoilers.html http://ezmodu.blogspot.com/2011/06/moeblob-tsundere-genki-routes-spoilers.html http://ezmodu.blogspot.com/2011/06/crosschannel-fin-spoilers.html

Pestilence !!vKqWKxLMglQ Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:04:30 No.7720329

>>7720254
>It actually manages to make me feel like every single line in the game has a point, and that if you removed any one of them the scene simply wouldn't be complete (this probably isn't true, but it sure feels like it).
Funny, that's how I felt when I read oretsuba, not so much for CC which I'm reading right now at a snail's pace.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:12:30 No.7720358 >>7720329 I hope you're reading the original, at least

Pestilence !!vKqWKxLMglQ Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:32:30 No.7720409

>>7720358
I don't know how good Ixrec's translation is, but I think I'd do the game and myself a disservice if I didn't play it in Japanese.

To elaborate on something I said earlier: the writing is far, far from bad. But for some reason I'm not getting the same vibe as I did from Oretsuba even though both games have spectacular writing. Might have something to do with me being stuck at the beginning and getting used to the writing, since I just got to the part where Daichi loses himself after seeing meganekko's blood and that's like only 3-4 hours into the game or so, so yeah.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:38:30 No.7720417 File: 110 KB, 799x597, 3721.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Oretsuba >spectacular writing

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:39:30 No.7720419 >>7720417 And great comedy.

>>	Pestilence !!vKqWKxLMglQ Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:44:30 No.7720429 File: 467 KB, 799x598, ohyouhayato.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7720417 >>7720417 >3721.jpg Not exactly sure what you're trying to prove here other than the fact that you took that image from VNDB.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 04:49:30 No.7720442

I remember I liked CC very much but not to a "GOD TIER" level.

I read it time ago and now I realize I forgot almost EVERYTHING about it. I'm listening to the OST and I'd love to re-read it but I also have to finish a lot of other VNs. My memory sucks balls.

I hate myself.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 06:41:30 No.7720686 File: 70 KB, 227x230, beatodeliciu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7719521 What is this

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 15:23:30 No.7721775 CC is pretty good, even though the dialogue is almost Nasu-tier self-wanking. Bad H scenes, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 15:38:30 No.7721814 >>7721775 >Bad H scenes, though. Touko's scenes were godly, just like Touko herself. <3

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:07:30 No.7721949 incredible how half the thread is filled with: CC is incomprehensible! no ur just dumb no it really is no it's not look it is no not at all and so on

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:09:30 No.7721958 >>7721949 Removing quote characters out of your shitpost doesn't automatically make it a good post, anon. Also, you've not yet learned the meaning of sage, so I suggest you go think long and hard about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:21:30 No.7722002 File: 57 KB, 794x480, 1296459425971.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7718888 >8888

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:29:30 No.7722035 File: 14 KB, 381x250, it's magic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7722002 >77 Jesus Christ!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:34:30 No.7722055 File: 16 KB, 383x243, omg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7722002 >>7722035 >77 >77 Oh, wow, we are on a roll here, /b/itches!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 16:46:30 No.7722110 File: 77 KB, 624x880, hnk manly.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7721958 My life was one lived without a single sage!

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 17:48:30 No.7722466 >>7721958 Someone hit a nerve.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 18:08:30 No.7722576 >>7720409 >Daichi His name is Taichi.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:36:30 No.7723219 File: 1.26 MB, 795x601, rose witch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7720183 I don't, actually. Sona-Nyl just happened to have a lot of things I like in it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:43:30 No.7723263 >>7718824 Oh shit, that site still has my best record from the last time I played it like three years ago

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:48:30 No.7723303 File: 195 KB, 800x600, 0562.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7723219 Delicious rose witch.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:49:30 No.7723312 >look up inganock in vndb >tagged Unlockable Choices and Linear Plot how does that work?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:50:30 No.7723318 >>7723312 If you don't get the unlockable choice, you get a bad end.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 20:54:30 No.7723344 Inganock could've been a lot better. It was somewhat poorly edited. Some segments were tedious to say the least.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 21:00:30 No.7723388 >>7718824 This still exists too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mewtation/Nanaca_Crash It's partly my work, dammit.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 21:25:30 No.7723460 File: 347 KB, 563x600, 18976574_m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 10, 2011 21:31:30 No.7723477 File: 328 KB, 563x600, 18150281_m.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 11, 2011 11:46:30 No.7725477 >>7723388 You're a good person for that

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