almost there, almost there~ Touhou games achievements thread, GO!

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Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:24:29 2011 No.7675049 [Reply] [Original]

almost there, almost there~

Touhou games achievements thread, GO!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:27:33 2011 No.7675056 Almost cleared my first extra a few days ago after about 2 years of practicing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:41:29 2011 No.7675076 I almost got to the second-to-last spellcard in an extra stage once.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:46:28 2011 No.7675083 1cc'd MoF 2 days ago on Normal I saved up 7 lives to face Kananko and just bombed the shit out of her. Still feels good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:48:58 2011 No.7675085 >>7675083 what do you think of the Mountain of Faith / Virtue of Wind God spellcard? I'm... not too fond of hard/lunatic MoF, but VoWG makes it all worth

Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:55:28 2011 No.7675100

>>7675085
Fucking frustrating since I had 6 game over before against it.
But honestly it's very fun to play, fast bullets, have to switch between focus/unfocus to survive. Now that I've done it in practise mode with no pleasure I can say that I really like it !

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 16:57:03 2011 No.7675104 1cc'd IN on lunatic and Embodiment on hard lately.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:06:31 2011 No.7675112 >>7675049 I remember clearing this pretty easily after realising just how little movement the spellcard actually needs. StB was so fun, I cleared the game twice.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:07:31 2011 No.7675114 File: 295 KB, 596x680, 1278657936751.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've been playing for almost a year now and have no major achievements to boast.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:08:29 2011 No.7675115 >>7675114 It took me about a year and a half for my first major one, just keep on going.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 17:11:59 2011 No.7675119
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Yesterday.

The very strangest feeling of exhileration and accomplishment and relief of incredible nervousness and anticipation and idiocy and laughter when I died at 6 seconds left on 80% reflowering... but had an extra life to spare and therefore a bomb to cruise my way through the final seconds.

Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:15:03 2011 No.7675128
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>>7675049
EX-4 Spiral-Yukari is my most favorit spellcard in this game. The first impression is like "it's impossible to beat that" but after some tries I figured out that the whole spellcard is causal - means there are no lolrandom-bullets and you can "trial and error" pretty fast a path to win this.
Speaking of lol-random bullets: 6-5 (Kaguya) was the most difficult one because you need a lot of luck there. You have a little bit influence on the spirals, but nevertheless you just need a lot of luck clearing this nasty spellcard.
My second favorite spellcard is probably 9-1 (Eirin). I just like it...

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 17:18:34 2011 No.7675139 File: 46 KB, 206x400, 1308329872986.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7675128 >that hitbox

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:24:35 2011 No.7675157 Got to stage 4 in Touhou 6 (or it might have been 7) anyway I got to stage 3 in the other one. I know pretty impressive

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:26:06 2011 No.7675166 I almost cleared MoF extra, got to the last tenth of suwako's mishagouji-sama. If only I didn't lose a random life out of carelessness ion her first four spellcards I'd have cleared it. Also I suck at jade of horrid rivers.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 17:40:11 2011 No.7675205 >>7675166 Yeah, Jade of Horrid Rivers is one of those cards that'll destroy you until you figure out how it works, then you'll be able to get it 95% of the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:47:08 2011 No.7675214 >>7675205 I techinically just need to bomb it once at the very end, but it's a bitch. Not as bad as that awful froggy braves teh elements, that shit should have been the last spellcard and not the halfway destructor.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 17:53:40 2011 No.7675224 Yesterday I did my first 1CC Hard of EoSD. I dont know why but I died more in front of Patchy than Sakuya's knifes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 19:52:49 2011 No.7675491 File: 73 KB, 500x369, 1297051378001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >No love left for the tengushooters ... Okay.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 20:13:06 2011 No.7675567 [DELETED]

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>>7675491
Eh. Maybe I'll give DS another go sometime.

Oh, speaking of such things, here's something neato I made yesterday. Had to compress the jpg a bit more than I like, since the png is 17 mb...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:14:36 2011 No.7675571 >>7675491 I haven't played them much since I've beaten DS recently. I can't get anywhere in StB no matter what even though I managed to get past DS with some work, so I'm kind of stuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:15:07 2011 No.7675578 >>7675567 Sanae's face in 6 foot cleansing makes me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:15:37 2011 No.7675575 i 1cc'd IN on easy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:18:37 2011 No.7675590 >>7675567 Sanae's face in 6-root cleansing makes me laugh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:19:07 2011 No.7675599 The best I've ever done in a Touhou game is clear PCB on normal with continues. So sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:27:38 2011 No.7675633 Well i beat Mokou. After so many attempts she's easy. Not much of an achievement, because shes very easy compared to other extra bosses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:28:09 2011 No.7675639 I played touhou once. It was awful.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 20:28:38 2011 No.7675636 >>7675633 She's not that much easier than them, really. Just more convenient to learn, assuming you take that convenience.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:29:08 2011 No.7675645 This is the gameplay thread I guess. Translation please? ZUN's saying stuff about Ten Desires mechanics. >ひょんな事から喰らいボムが可能になりました >いや今まで霊界ゲージが溜まっていない時しか喰らいボムが出来なかったけど、いつでも使えるように変更しました（理由、キツイ） >難易度は低いですがエクステンドがかなり少ないので、ボム抱えてのミスがかなり重いという

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 20:33:42 2011 No.7675655 >>7675567 Hold, I wanna fix Yuyuko's to make more sense. Gonna reupload in a bit.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Thu Jul 28 20:47:13 2011 No.7675691 File: 2.96 MB, 4096x2400, sokudanmaku.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hopefully this is the final version, I've edited it like 4 times...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 20:55:14 2011 No.7675705 I almost finished one of the games on easy once. Almost.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 28 22:12:03 2011 No.7675983 File: 337 KB, 714x520, 1299631257239.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Beat Double Spoiler and unlocked Hatate. Played 3 days straight until obtained.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 03:55:16 2011 No.7676833 >>7675645 google translate gives out mostly gibberish, but >I addition, I changed to use at any time (why, tough) I guess one of the biggest complaints about trance has been answered.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 03:59:48 2011 No.7676840 File: 52 KB, 141x140, sanae teardrop.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7675691 wait, why is Sanae always the victim?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 04:04:16 2011 No.7676850 File: 974 KB, 1748x2480, sanae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7676840 Because she is the default CPU character.

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 04:20:20 2011 No.7676881

>>7675645
my japanese is terrible so this is mostly a guess.

>ひょんな事から喰らいボムが可能になりました
You can now use(or get) a strange occasion bomb

>いや今まで霊界ゲージが溜まっていない時しか喰らいボムが出来なかっ
たけど、いつでも使えるように変更しました（理由、キツイ）
he was going to make it so you had to fill a gauge to use that bomb but now you can use it whenever you want.

>難易度は低いですがエクステンドがかなり少ないので、ボム抱えてのミ
スがかなり重いという

something about lowering difficulty because bombs were missing too much.

Once again, my japanese is terrible and this is all probably wrong.

iAlice !fz3POlcgVk Fri Jul 29 04:28:20 2011 No.7676896 [DELETED]

I've cleared the Extra stages of EoSD, IN, MoF, and UFO. Kogasa is by far my favorite boss, and Mokou was by far the hardest in my opinion. By the way, those who have beaten Flandre, did you particularly enjoy the Lavaetein spellcard? My only regret is that it dosn't last longer ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 04:47:50 2011 No.7676949 >>7676896 Laevatein was what pretty much got me into playing EoSD.... and then I found out that it can be defeated so easily by circling around Flandre. I don't know how to feel about this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 04:49:21 2011 No.7676952 >>7675571 What cards are you stuck on in StB?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 04:53:21 2011 No.7676960 >>7675128 >6-5 (Kaguya did you mean 9-6?

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 05:04:52 2011 No.7676993

>>7676833
>>7676881
I actually liked how the trance system works in the demo, in regards to that, and I think being able to use it whenever you feel like is going to make the game even easier. Oh well.
The only thing I wish he'd get rid of is being unable to end it by yourself. Going trance mode during a non-card only to have the boss call a spell card, which leads to you losing the bonus because you're still in trance mode is pretty annoying.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 05:06:53 2011 No.7676996 >>7676993 Scoring against bosses has almost always been about knowing when to stop shooting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 05:48:28 2011 No.7677066 >>7676960 Yeah. I think i stuck over 3-4 month at this single spellcard (I only beat the spellcards in their order).

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 05:55:30 2011 No.7677074

>>7676993
I'm pretty sure the third thing he said there is that to balance out the low difficulty there are much fewer extends than usual. I had wondered if that was just a peculiarity of the demo.

Anyway being able to use it any time means you can use it on opportunity points during stages instead of basically having to save it up for the bosses. If you still get retarded points for hitting bosses with it then it will be still be stupid but at least less rigid. Being able to cancel it would help even more yeah.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 07:55:38 2011 No.7677345 File: 109 KB, 640x480, 1311940530647.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Set a new high score for my no deaths/no bombs UFO Extra run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sf67PU0SE Posting a link here because I'm a slut.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 07:56:09 2011 No.7677348 File: 109 KB, 640x480, ufoextrandnb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Set a new personal record for my no deaths/no bombs UFO Extra runs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1sf67PU0SE Posting a link here because I'm a slut.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 08:01:40 2011 No.7677360 yurofags what joypad u use for toho? xbox controller or sometin pc related? wanna buy sometin decent...

>>	Board dispatching HAXUS THE GREAT Fri Jul 29 08:02:09 2011 No.7677367 >>7677360 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 08:03:09 2011 No.7677373 >>7677360 Keyboard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 08:09:09 2011 No.7677386 >>7677373 dunno never was a fan of that, will try ittho

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 08:09:40 2011 No.7677385 >>7677367 can u be a lil more anal?

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Fri Jul 29 10:38:27 2011 No.7677656 >>7676881 Ah hell, does that mean he's going to keep with the no-deathbombs-allowed thing? Ugh... Probably won't even be able to deathtrance either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 16:24:10 2011 No.7678395 >>7677348 can't find any UFO normal mode replays, how far did you get with your hard/lunatic trips?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 16:31:10 2011 No.7678411 File: 64 KB, 642x431, oh god what_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I broke HRtP's score counter while 1CCing the Hell route I felt pretty good about that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 16:54:24 2011 No.7678468 Managed to 1cc IN on hard. Not a big achievement, but it's the first game I managed to clear on hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 16:57:24 2011 No.7678473 File: 186 KB, 700x500, 0be2cc9d684f4a7aa9622f7168fb07f4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7678468 inevitable "which team" question. did you know that you need to hard/lunatic-1cc the game with Solo Reimu for the Marisa Last Word?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:04:57 2011 No.7678494 >>7678411 If you don't mind me asking, why the hell do you play that game so much? I want to like it, but it just seems so shitty. Does it get better when you're actually good at it or something?

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:04:57 2011 No.7678495

Trying to beat PCB on hard for about three months. Mastered all the stages in practice, except for some spellcards, but continue to fail on 1cc attempts. Sometimes I even get to Youmu or even Yuyu, only to lose my last one or two extra lives. Most of the time I screw up and lose live or two on stage 2 and die fighting Alice, attempt few more times then ragequit. I'm starting to lose hope.

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:12:24 2011 No.7678518

I'm still sporadically making my way through Double Spoiler again (lost my save due to a faulty hard drive), since now that I have the english patch I want to spend some time with Hatate to form an opinion on her.

It's sad seeing how rusty I am at this game now.

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:28:31 2011 No.7678579
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>>7678494

Your mileage may vary, I guess. I didn't think it was that great until I started playing it on Lunatic, but afterwards it just became magical. It captures that "flow" you feel with other danmaku games but also gives you the additional challenge of contending with the ball. It's honestly too easy when you get the hang of it, though, because it's pretty easy to score whore and you get way too many lives from doing so. Still, it holds a special place in my heart

I still don't understand why ZUN gave Reimu purple hair in all the game's art even though ingame her hair is clearly black. It haunts me to this day

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:53:02 2011 No.7678711 File: 68 KB, 640x480, th095 2011-07-29 23-52-04-78.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7675049 I'm done. fantastic game. I can't describe how I feel...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 17:57:32 2011 No.7678721 also, what are the top 3 most shots scenes for you? in StB Ex-4: 371 10-5: 497 8-7: 518

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 18:02:04 2011 No.7678740 File: 381 KB, 600x800, 1291922526001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7678711 Congratulation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 18:06:38 2011 No.7678756 File: 105 KB, 300x225, clap.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7678711 You are a bigger man than I, congratulations.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 29 18:08:34 2011 No.7678771 >>7678721 For StB I'll list my top five. 10-6: 2788 10-2: 2669 9-6: 2637 7-8: 2532 10-8: 2042 Some of the cards are a lot harder when trying to scorerun them.

Anonymous Fri Jul 29 18:40:42 2011 No.7678881

>>7678395
>can't find any UFO normal mode replays
Replays of what, by whom.

>how far did you get with your hard/lunatic trips?
What do you mean. If you're asking how far I can progress through the game, I've 1cc'd Hard and Lunatic forever ago. If you're talking about score, I've never really scored in UFO's main game outside of silly stage practices. I've been entertaining the idea of scoring on UFO Normal lately, though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 30 04:22:33 2011 No.7680381
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>>7678881
alright, was just wondering.

I guess most people will agree with me that UFO above normal is a bigger clusterfuck than anything before in Windows Touhou, except maybe PoFV lunatic. You have my respect, I'm quite jealous of that lunatic UFO 1cc.

Anonymous Sat Jul 30 04:47:40 2011 No.7680432

>>7678881
Scoring on normal is fun. Although, UFO scoring is kind of annoying because of how you can get like a 50% higher score if you learn how to exploit Ichirin. It seems like such a hideous thing to learn too. I have no idea how those laser hitboxes work even after watching.

Anonymous Sat Jul 30 05:40:54 2011 No.7680540
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>>7680381
Yeah, UFO Hard/Lunatic is rough. I absolutely love UFO though. The difficulty and scoring system are both excellent. The only problem is that I could never have the consistency to put together a good Hard/Lunatic run. Extra, on the other hand, is very accessible in comparison, so I've stuck to that.

Keep at it. I'm sure you'll get that Lunatic 1cc eventually. If you need any help, feel free to ask. I might be able to give some tips, at the very least.

>>7680432
Recently I devoted some time to learning how to supergraze Ichirin's midboss nonspell on Normal. Figuring out the other things shouldn't be so bad, at least compared to the precision required by Hard/Lunatic to get into certain safespots. And then there's grazing Nazrin's lasers and sitting in Kogasa skirt...

But yeah, I'm definitely not a huge fan of spending all the extra time milking graze out of things early in the game just so that cash-ins in the last few stages are that much larger. It's part of why I've avoided scoring outside of Extra, where everything's a little more short-term.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 30 05:56:01 2011 No.7680573 >>7680432 >50% higher score if you learn how to exploit Ichirin. Not that high. 300M - 400M is a more reasonable number. Less in lunatic because there is no safespot in her midboss.

Anonymous Sat Jul 30 19:52:11 2011 No.7682470
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>>7680573
Not the same person, but you got me interested so I did some counting. To make it simple I only looked at the items starting at stage four and up. If you're good with your blue and rainbow UFOs then each point of graze should be worth about 25,900. If you're insane and do learn to exploit Ichirin then you'll be pulling 20K+ graze from her noncards alone. So a little over 500M.

On topic, a random run with Marisa-A because I saw someone else doing it. No chasing after graze or it would probably land in the 330M+ range. Nudged over a little less than I would have liked to for the second to last red wave of the survival.

Anonymous Sat Jul 30 21:13:49 2011 No.7682681

>>7680540
Yeah I hate graze milking and safespot scoring. I set a goal of 1 billion without doing any of that (well, a little grazing). It's possible. If I hadn't died on my last run I would have had about 990m. But I burned myself out on STGs for a while and haven't tried again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 06:59:59 2011 No.7684034 File: 273 KB, 576x246, ufo948657.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=14976 All I need is Lunatic and my life will be complete.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 10:04:19 2011 No.7684374 File: 34 KB, 335x420, grützke no thank you..jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7684034 what's your history on Marisa B, how many retries? >MarisaB bomb: 160 dps, 3,3 invulnerability Sanae in TD at least has a way better bomb

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 10:33:25 2011 No.7684457 >>7684374 Times Used 1,507 Play Time 51:20:32 Times Cleared 1 Here is my score.dat if you are interested: http://www.mediafire.com/?h8b1owkmx7oxdl9

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 10:53:27 2011 No.7684514
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For some reason I can't clear a game when I have a really good run because I'll always die random deaths and forget to bomb.

Last stage, 5 lives? Game over.
Last stage, 2 lives? Clear with 1 life left.

Does anyone else have this weird problem?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 10:57:27 2011 No.7684523 >>7684514 Which game are you specifically talking about? All that I can tell you right now is to practice and watch replays. Upload a replay and we will critique it.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:37:31 2011 No.7684607
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I don't think my question is worth opening a new topic so I ask it here instead.

I've kept reading about touhou since months on 4chan,
and even downloaded many of the music albums,
So I thought I should give the games itself a try.

But because I'm a newfag to touhou I don't have the slightest clue were to start?

can you help me anon?
which games should I play first,

and if you, by any chance now some good place to DL them,
It would be kind of you to share it with me!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:41:02 2011 No.7684614 >>7684607 TH07: Perfect Cherry Blossom

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:41:32 2011 No.7684613 >>7684514 Kinda. When I'm gradually losing lives I am more likely to go into clutch victory mode and pull it off. If I take a big dive from 6 lives it's just too much failure and I fall apart.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:42:31 2011 No.7684615 >>7684514 That happens to me often. Actually, that exact thing happened to me with Kanako, and I lost all five lives to one spellcard. That really hurt. It only happens on the first 1cc, usually I do better when I try it again.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:52:33 2011 No.7684630 >>7684607 http://www.megaupload.com/?d=x6xdavg9 get the best game

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:53:03 2011 No.7684633
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>>7684607
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5057070/Touhou_Project_Compilation_%5BTH01_-_TH12.3%5D

Here is one link that I found. There might be better ones so you should look around. You can find every last one of them easily if you Google search 'touhou ### mediafire'.

I can make a torrent of my collection but I don't know if I should. There wont be a single collection that is 100% complete. What you see in my picture is, so use it as a model. Also, make sure that you use the vsync patch on all the games, the older ones especially. It gets rid of input lag and gives you better control over the game.

Here are some useful links:

http://www.gensokyo.org/archives/category/fanworks/translation-patches
http://replays.gensokyo.org/
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

When you start to play, make sure to have patience and know how to practice. It may take months to complete a goal but you will get there. This isn't something you can beat on the highest difficulty in a day. Also, make sure to watch a lot of replays. They help a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:55:04 2011 No.7684634 >>7684633 >wikia My God. http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 11:56:34 2011 No.7684636 >>7684630 The general consensus is that SA has the hardest Easy/Normal mode and that UFO has the hardest Hard/Lunatic. I would not recommend SA to a beginner but do look into it later on. It's very enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:01:34 2011 No.7684644 File: 174 KB, 711x400, 1297435917027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7684633 thanks for the advice anon I'll give it a try!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:14:36 2011 No.7684666 >>7684633 >fan games what all do you have in that box mr? I have megamari, super marisa world, and both scarlet castles. Is there anything else of note to go get?

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:16:05 2011 No.7684674

Decided to play UFO after a break. I was confident, performing much better than usual, bombing well and even capturing cards I couldn't before. Made it to Byakuren with 4 lives and bombs...And I got destroyed. Bullets came out of nowhere and killed me even though they didn't used to before and I kept getting surprised for some reason. I'm never going to beat UFO Normal am I?

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:20:06 2011 No.7684693 File: 44 KB, 640x480, th11 2011-05-29 20-39-00-52.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7684679 which character/option? ReimuC for me

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:23:07 2011 No.7684696 >>7684674 keep trying. bomb all the time during the stages. it's astonishingly efficient

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:24:36 2011 No.7684698 >>7684696 I did do that, I bombed tons during stage 4 like I usually do to get tons of lives. I'm too disheartened to play right now, I'll just play like shit if I try again right now, I guess I'll see UFO in a week.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:26:08 2011 No.7684710
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>>7684666

Nothing too special. I've been meaning to get more.

Ctc is more like a bunch of smaller games put together. It's a little hard to navigate because everything is in moon. It's a little difficult but it has some amazing music and patterns. The graphics are pretty bad though. I don't think it's as good as any of the real Touhou games but I highly recommend trying it out. I find it most similar to IN or Eosd.

Ctc music is amazing. I freaking love it.

Mystical Chain is a fighting platformer. It has some nice art and it's pretty fun but nothing to take seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:30:08 2011 No.7684722 PatchCon is pretty fun as well.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:34:09 2011 No.7684730
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>>7684698

What shot type are you using? UFO normal isn't something that should be impossible. 4 lives and 4 bombs is good for dealing with Byakuren. There was a time when I couldn't pass it on easy but I did eventually. Same for Normal and Hard, which I just got 6/6 today. Only lunatic remains. I was like you; don't give up. Even if you aren't planning on going as far as a 1cc, practice. You should practice at least a little bit every day. A week will kill you. Submit a replay and we'll help you. Sometimes it is best to just leave it for next time but this game does require patience.

http://replays.gensokyo.org/index.php?u=riz&g=--&p=&t=--&d=3&c=1&ch=0

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:37:39 2011 No.7684734 File: 1.18 MB, 1500x1100, 22f195d3e0d614dd3da13c4e19737d68.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7684710 many thanks. i'll check them out

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:38:09 2011 No.7684738

>>7684730

I'm using Sanae A, which I know is worse than Sanae B and whatnot but I want to use her anyways. I take week long breaks often from one game, I usually just play a different game in the series because I don't want to put up with one of them, it's not that harmful considering I've been doing it for however long I've been playing, but progress is slow. Anyways, playing when frustrated or discouraged is no good since it will just make me worse like it made me in SA.

>>	Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 Sun Jul 31 12:41:40 2011 No.7684743 >>7684710 Mind putting your Fangames up as a torrent/mediafire?

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:46:10 2011 No.7684757

>>7684738

SA is all about memorization. It simply requires grinding to memorize some things

In UFO, I had my first 1cc on Normal as SanaeA. Imo, she isn't that much worse than SanaeB on Normal. You should be fine. She has a strong bomb that clears the whole screen and still leaves you very mobile. She also does a lot of damage with her shot. The only problem is that you can't shotgun her as well as SanaeB. And SanaeB's spread can be very important sometimes, especially on later difficulties.

If you don't feel like playing yourself, watch replays. There's always something you can do to get better.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:49:40 2011 No.7684763

>>7684757

I did memorize and I used to be able to at least get to stage 5 consistently, but now I can't beat stage 1 without losing a life nowadays so I have lost all of my will to play it. As for replays, I don't really like watching them for clearing stuff unless they're my own so I can see what mistakes I made. I might just do it if I really get fed up with UFO like I did with SA though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 12:53:39 2011 No.7684769 >>7684743 You're right. Ctc was a pain to find. I'll put both games up on mediafire. It's 170mb total. It will take 30 minutes to an hour to upload. I'll post the link when it's ready.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:02:40 2011 No.7684791

>>7684763

Replays will show you strategies and techniques that you wouldn't be able to logically find yourself. This is especially true for ufo paths in ufo. There must be a few specific places that you are stuck on that sometimes steal a life or bomb from you. Replays give you the freedom to watch every last bullet in perfect detail without having to worry about getting hit yourself. SA is a hard game on normal. It's probably equal to hard on a few of the older games.

There isn't a single goal in any of the games that you can't accomplish if you try hard enough. Sometimes you have to take breaks and that is fine. You just have to keep going. You will look back on it one day and think it's easy as cake.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:06:41 2011 No.7684800

>>7684791

I don't really like replays because it feels like I'm looking at a strategy guide that tells you exactly what to do and I normally don't like to use those, even if it is harder to perform than it is to watch. For SA, I don't think it's as hard as any games on Hard currently, but it really upsets me nowadays and I don't know why I'm terrible at it now. Maybe I'll give it another go sometime after Ten Desires comes out, I don't know.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:12:15 2011 No.7684816
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Been trying to beat her lately.
Can't.
That fucking Maze of Love kicks my ass so hard I want to cry. I get the feeling that this would all be so much easier with a visual hitbox, but on the other hand this shows me just how dependent on it I was.

To those of you who have conquered her, how would you rank her level of difficulty against other Ex bosses? (I've already beaten a few others myself, but am just curious/in need of encouragement)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:15:42 2011 No.7684821 >>7684816 >how would you rank her level of difficulty against other Ex bosses? Ran > Flandre > Nue > Koishi > Mokou > Yukari > Suwako

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:27:45 2011 No.7684842 >>7684821 this makes no sense to me. Suwako easiest?

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:29:44 2011 No.7684852

>>7684800

I've had those moments when I was borderline stuck. It took me months of practicing to get those Hard 1cc's on UFO. I couldn't make it to stage 3 at first. I eventually refined my techniques up to the point where I was able to get that 1cc. It was an amazing feeling when I was watching Byakuren explode after months of training every day. You don't want the games to be too easy. Otherwise there is no accomplishment. The first time that I got to Byakuren's final card I had no lives and no bombs from the start. I got her health down to literally 3 pixels before I died. If I stayed around for half a second longer I would have captured it. You have to learn to roll with those kinds of things. I have moments where I cannot beat stage 1 for the life in me. It happens.

Don't think of replays as a lecture. Think of them as a crystal ball.

>>7684743
Here you go♥: http://www.mediafire.com/?m9piioiryy5zik1

I want to play this now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43E2laRy9o8

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:34:45 2011 No.7684860

>>7684852

Yeah, I got to Byakuren's last card too, but I lost there with half health. Not as bad as that, but still. I think I have about 13 hours on UFO so far, so it's not that much. Maybe I'll focus on the extras for now since I have a lot more room to grow there than in the Normals. Plus I am getting pretty close to beating Ran as well.

>>	Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 Sun Jul 31 13:36:15 2011 No.7684866 >>7684852 Many thanks Anon!

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 13:51:17 2011 No.7684890 CtC's pretty good, but really I've used it more for Danmakufu than for the actual game.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:52:18 2011 No.7684897
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>>7684860

Raindrops: Move up on this one so you don't get clipped.
Guerrilla Typhoon: More vertically but not completely vertically. Make use of unfocused movement. Be very ready to bomb.
Surprising Slash: It's easier at first to move up to do this card. It's not best for someone new to it to be doing it at the very bottom. Very easy with SanaeA.

Peaceful Dark Clouds: Easy
Red UFO invasion of rage: Depends on the shot type. SanaeA does poorly on this one.
Snake Show: Easy.
Blue UFO Invasion of Grief: Killing the UFOs should be a priority. They can clip you if you can't kill them in time. Slight memorization is very useful here.
Danmaku Chimera: Pretty Easy.
Green UFO Invasion of Loyalty: You need to know what altitude to stand in and knowing how to kill some of the green ufo's is very useful here.
Undefined Darkness: A tough card. I once did a complete ND/NB run except for this one card which killed me 4 times. You just have to know how to lure her. The more you learn to manipulate it, the better.
Invasion of Terror: It's easier than it looks but it's still challenging. Can become easy with practice.
Nightmare of Heiankyou: Needs little bit of remembering but isn't that bad. You have to be careful not to let the grids spawn on you. The last few seconds of the card has some very thick bullets that need memorization. You must decide to bomb or not right before it.
Grudge Bow: Just straight up bullet-dodging. It's good to have extra lives and and good firepower here. It doesn't really get hard until the very end. The ending is a nightmare.

13 hours is nothing before you start crying.

Overall Nue is a pretty easy boss. The stage is very challenging though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:52:48 2011 No.7684895 >>7684842 I had a pretty easy time with Suwako and thought it was generally accepted that she was one of the easier bosses. What doesn't make sense to me however is Yukari being beneath Ran. What manner of tomfoolery is that?

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 13:56:50 2011 No.7684903

>>7684897

Well, I guess I kind of know what I'm up against once I do manage to beat UFO, if I do. Ran strangely isn't that bad for some reason, I think the furthest I've gotten is to her second to last spellcard so far. Mokou gives me the most trouble of the extra bosses so far, I've pretty much needed to bomb on all of her cards except for one, which I have no idea how I managed to capture.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 13:58:50 2011 No.7684909 >>7684897 >Surprising Slash: It's easier at first to move up to do this card. It's not best for someone new to it to be doing it at the very bottom. What? How does that make any sense? There's no reason to not be at the bottom, really.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:01:50 2011 No.7684915 [DELETED]

>>7684895
Ran has Banquet of the General Gods, Charming Siege, Princess Tenko and Chen, plus her stage has Soaring Bishamonten. All Yukari has that's substantially harder than Ran's version is Death Butterfly and even then the small shrapnel on Unilateral Contract is sometimes harder to dodge.

Yukari is practically a joke up until her last few cards, one of which has a gaping safespot.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:03:50 2011 No.7684919

>>7684895
Ran has Banquet of the General Gods, Charming Siege, Princess Tenko and Chen, plus her stage has Soaring Bishamonten. All Yukari has that's substantially harder than Ran's version is Death Butterfly and even then the small shrapnel on Unilateral Contract is sometimes harder to dodge.

Yukari is practically a joke up until her last few cards, one of which has a gaping safespot. Koishi and Nue are high up because of Undefined Darkness and Genetics of the Subconscious, which are both just plain "exactly memorize the necessary movement patterns or you'll have to time this out" bullshit while the rest should be obvious.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:06:52 2011 No.7684924

>>7684919

I can't even play against Koishi or Nue though, I haven't even unlocked them. Anyways, I have a little bit of experience with the stupidly hard version of Double Black Death Butterfly in SA, so I wonder what the one in PCB is like. Most of the other extras that aren't Mokou I can usually get halfway through.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:08:51 2011 No.7684927

>>7684903

I just beat Mokou for the first time today. It only took me 2 lazy days. It was border team. The stage was jokingly easy. I don't think Mokou herself is that hard of a boss. I did a ton of practice before that run. It took over a hundred tries on some of the spellcards for me to logically be able to challenge them. I still need to practice it but the victory is sealed.

>>7684909
You have to learn how to read the slashes. I'm working from my personal experience on how I learned the card. It wrecked me until I moved up, then I decided to go back down for the most part when I decided to 6/6 it. Staying higher can be more beneficial for damage output.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:11:53 2011 No.7684933 >>7684919 Undefined Darkness doesn't have any tricky movement patterns though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:20:23 2011 No.7684943 I got PoFV to work for netplay with a friend, achievement of the day !

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:35:55 2011 No.7684957

>>7684919
Thank you for your list and advice.
You've encouraged me to try my hand at Yukari again, then. I'd originally left her as an EX boss I'd never manage to beat.
Although maybe that's because the replay I watched to train was by a guy who Touhou'd way better than I did and just made all the tricks to beating her cards seem out of my league.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 14:38:26 2011 No.7684964 >>7684957 Want one of mine? I still have my earliest ones, and can make a slightly more advanced tho not too much one right now if you want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:47:28 2011 No.7684975 >>7684919 >undefined darkness http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnWa5e10_Vc

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 14:59:05 2011 No.7685008 >>7684964 I would very much appreciate that if it's not too much trouble.

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 15:08:01 2011 No.7685012 >>7685008 Sure. Which one? Or what about two, my first one and one that I do now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 15:23:39 2011 No.7685045 I- I almost made it to Sakuya, On normal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 15:25:08 2011 No.7685053 >>7685045 Learn to bomb. Proper bombing is very important in EoSD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 15:38:10 2011 No.7685094 >>7685012 Both would be nice as long as it's not asking too much of you.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 15:41:40 2011 No.7685099
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..........

I... I just no-missed Yukari, and captured Boundary of Humans and Youkai...

But I forgot to save the replay.
What the fuck. I have no words for this. I can't even comprehend what just happened.

Anyways, here's my first-clear replay, hopefully it'll help. I do pretty badly on the last few cards, and I don't do a lot of the neat tricks you can do on the stage, but I'm sure there's a few replays on the replay archive that can show you those.
Sorry I'm clinically retarded and forgot to save the no-miss...
http://www.mediafire.com/?88fwmzxz5ot6602

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 15:42:39 2011 No.7685100 >>7685094 Oh, alright. I'll see if I can get another good run in then, probably won't be a no-miss but I'll use what tricks I know and hopefully not completely chickenbomb the last three cards.

Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 16:31:07 2011 No.7685230

Oh, I give up. This is just too depressing that I'm trying to recreate that and it's not even nearly working.

Anyways, here's another run a few days after that first clear. The stage is pretty good, though Ran's not optimal. And I do a lot better in some of Yukari's cards than I did before, though my Danmaku Bounded Field is still trashy. If you want I can upload a replay of Yukari's Last Word in Imperishable Night which is the exact same thing with some more stuff at the end.
http://www.mediafire.com/?vr3avtqpo3bqy7w

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 16:53:34 2011 No.7685291

With all the talk of various Extra difficulties, I was thinking I could help out.

>Although maybe that's because the replay I watched to train was by a guy who Touhou'd way better than I did and just made all the tricks to beating her cards seem out of my league.
Then I realized I would be that guy and probably wouldn't be too helpful for teaching survival.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 21:19:44 2011 No.7685943
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>>7684644

so after testing some of the games I have to wonder,

Is there a particular reason why I should play them in the right order?

Or can I simply start with the newest ones?

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 22:06:49 2011 No.7686099
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>>7685943

I would personally say no. All of the gamesexcept SA & FW should be doable on easy. After you are done with easy you will be able to decide where you want to play Normal.

I would recommend IN. It's generally regarded to be the easiest game close to PCB while still having some new features that will help you play. It will help you get used to both the new and the old games. You should be done quickly with Easy.

This link somewhat gives you a good explanation.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100118211648AAUT96m

You should also check out the wiki on the game to explain a few things to you that may not be obvious to you.
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Wiki

I would also seriously recommend using this. The picture shows you how to set it up.
http://www.mediafire.com/?h8xmvf22fl6tb9i

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 22:55:30 2011 No.7686194 >>7686099 Horey Sheet Not the same anon your helping, but thanks for the patch. How could I not have known about this..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:01:30 2011 No.7686206 File: 231 KB, 711x400, 1306617879650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7686099 thanks for all the help man you are awesome!

>>	Mush !lYtRBoeK.2 Sun Jul 31 23:05:26 2011 No.7686214 >>7686099 No, don't play IN. That shit fucks up your deathbombing skills good. Start with either EoSD or PCB; EoSD grinds some good dodging basics with more randomized bullets and PCB is the easiest next to IN.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:09:59 2011 No.7686221 File: 3 KB, 126x126, 1290534600523s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SO, when I press shift, I always thought that only th character is meant to slow down.. but, err, reading this thread... Well, is the whole screen meant to slow down?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:10:30 2011 No.7686224 >>7686221 the*

>>	Youmu Konpaku !MyonHUTINA Sun Jul 31 23:17:57 2011 No.7686238 >>7686221 Eh? No, not at all.

Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:21:29 2011 No.7686248
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>>7686214

This anon has a point. It messes with your deathbombing skills. IN has the easiest deathbombs in the whole game. Usually you have to X it before the bullet even hits you so that you would bomb it within milliseconds. IN gives a huge gap to decide if you want to bomb or not. But then again, it's usually not good to do so since deathbombing on IN uses two bombs instead of one. Why use two when you could have used one? Deathbombing makes you weaker. Apart from IN, you should never learn to rely on deathbombs unless you are dead sure of what you're doing. In my regular UFO runs, I can make maybe 1/4-1/3 of my bombs deathbombs and that is very good.

Some people may think that sheer bullet dodging skill is what makes a good Touhou player. Touhou is a lot like a puzzle game. There are some things that no matter how good you are, you just wont get them the first time. Memorization is what you should focus on when playing these games. Bullet dodging skills will come by themselves.

If you want zero memorization and sheer bullet dodging, play pofv. There is nothing to remember. You just dodge bullets. It's not a real Touhou game but it's very easy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:23:28 2011 No.7686254 >>7686221 Some of Youmu's attacks slow the game down. That is meant to represent slashes. Sakuya does this too. Where did you specifically encounter this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 31 23:36:06 2011 No.7686293 >> Just randomly happens, though its seems to coincide with focusing. The vsync patch linked by an earlier anon seems to have eased it though.

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