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Old is autosaged.

For the slowpokes, update with new patch:
http://www.tasofro.net/touhou105/download.html

67.171.27.165:11712
US West

>> No.760196

Am I the only one whose replays aren't working?

>> No.760197

192.168.1.3:10800
mid lvl

>> No.760200

>>760197
More like low level.

>> No.760205

Intermediate Reimu US West.
68.96.176.239:10800

>> No.760208

what does 1.02 fix?

>> No.760214

>>760208
Makes Suika even more awesome.

>> No.760215

>>760208

http://swr.mizuumi.net/index.php/Changelog

>> No.760216

Sorry but that lag is really annoying me.

>>760188
rehosting

>> No.760218

70.153.42.62:10800
US East
Casual

>> No.760225

>>760208
increases lag

>> No.760228

24.205.92.35.10800
us west, semi noob.

>> No.760252

>>760218
so ronery ;_;

>> No.760267

24.36.179.80:10800 Canada ON

>> No.760290

68.147.122.15:10800
Canada West ready to roll

>> No.760316

>>760205
GG's, your suika owned my shit.

>> No.760327
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760327

067.168.090.161:07500

West Coast Advanced Reimu/Youmu; Intermediate Chiquita/Komachi/Slut

>> No.760344

>>760228
ggs, i hate that snow level... cant see shit,

>> No.760353

>>760344
I completely agree. I thought I was going blind for a bit there because it was so damn bright.

>> No.760357

72.193.61.58:7500
West US

>> No.760362

>>760218
ggs

>> No.760367

>>760218
So ashamed ;_;

>> No.760370

could some one explain how to get this working or a link plx

>> No.760372

>>760327

Did you change dragonforce from advanced to intermediate or am I seeing things?

>> No.760375

Anyone wanna play? you gotta host though. Canada east here.

>> No.760418

>>760357
GGs

>> No.760422

>>760418
GG

>> No.760438

24.200.68.29:07500
Hosting like you wouldn't believe. I suck, as far as I know.

>> No.760439

69.251.108.170:07500 ec

>> No.760445

>>760290
Wow was I ever humbled by your Reisen. GGs www

>> No.760449

>>760290

gg
got lag even though we live in the same place lol

>> No.760454

>>760449
Thats a bit odd, It may be my router but otherwise my connection is free for gaming.

>> No.760466

>>760439
ggs oh shit tornado warning

>> No.760468

>>760439

Meh, laggy as hell.

>> No.760483

any EUfags still up wanna play a few rounds? I can't host though...

>> No.760551

>>760327

GG started to get laggy.

I cant stand playing against aya or youmu, too fast and that puts patchy at a huge disadvantage. Playing your reimu was fun. And when you picked reisen i felt sad you were taking pity on me.

I blanked out during tenchi from 5 minute long combos..

>> No.760552

69.0.30.112:10800

EST, Noob, Reisen

>> No.760560

I have problem fighting people that focus on defensive stuff rather then being aggressive. Any tips or replays?

>> No.760562

>>760560
Also, *than.

>> No.760564

69.235.5.72 7500
will mirror if i can play the one you're using

>> No.760568
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>>760327
GGs

I guess you rage-quit at the Youmu and Chiquita corner combos. It was funny, but kind of sucked.

>>760372
I changed her. Armando showed me how a really good Chiquita should be played. I know how to do all the combos and how to move with her, but I don't think about little things, like how much priority her 3A has, or that you can chase and combo further after landing a 2C in the air. That and I don't seem to do too well with her in high-level play, so I tacked her down.

Rehosting.

>> No.760581

GGS Zanther.

>> No.760587
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71.17.16.141:7500

hosting

>> No.760591

>>760581
Lol yeah I couldn't keep up though. you're really good with the dolls.

>> No.760610

>>760551
It wasn't so much pity...

>> No.760646

>>760438
Re-up. Forgot to add EC Canada to this.

>> No.760656

less ragequits against alice please

rehosting

>> No.760673
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>>760552


Rehosting.

>> No.760719

Uh.... ggs I guess, Vercingetorix.

>> No.760758

So, is it just me, or is Alice the only character anyone plays any more? I mean, don't get me wrong, I love playing without melee or combos, but I'm getting a tad bit tired of blocking any time I'm within a third of the screen of the enemy and only getting combos if the enemy misses a spell card or something. (In case you care, I've played 5 Alices in a row now. 2 yesterday before I quit, and now 3 in a row today. It's really exciting.) Play Marisa or Iku. I haven't seen anyone play them in about a week.

>> No.760764

>>760656
Nobody likes alice, even in SWR. D:

>> No.760774

>>760758
I never seen a Yukari player yet so yeah.

>> No.760782

>>760758
I don't think I've ever played against an Alice.
Yuyuko, on the other hand, seems to be everywhere.

>> No.760789

>>760764
>D:

Get out.

>> No.760798

68.147.122.15:10800
Canada West, trying new combos with Youmu so go easy.

>> No.760808

>>760789
Too much IRC does that.
But no.

>> No.760825

Doesn't seem like I can host for some reason. Don't know what I'm forgetting, I can connect well enough, and my port should be forwarded. Do you need a wider range to host than to join?

>> No.760829
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760829

>>760764

>> No.760832

>>760825
No. Just one does it.

>> No.760834

72.193.61.58:7500
US West

>> No.760836

>>760825
Try updating to v1.02 if you haven't already.

>> No.760839

Questions for Magister. I watched those games between you and the godly Suika. At one point you hit with level 5 runpast and Suika used a super to cancel the bulk of the damage. Is this an exploit anyone can do?

>> No.760859

68.249.3.246:10800
us north central, random, terrible skill

>> No.760862
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>>760798
Laggy but GG.I had to configure before playing due some modem problems so yeah.

>> No.760865

>>760839
Specials can cancel other specials. One case was when I was using Suika and used the 5k grab explosion special but the Alice used her blue bomb special and canceled my grab.

>> No.760866

Hosting 24.235.232.56:10800 ON, Canada. Yukari/Iku/Remilia.

>> No.760869

>>760836
Shit, there is a 1.02?!

>> No.760876

>>760839
It's not an exploit, it's supposed to work that way.

Some spellcards can render you invincible against all attacks. Try Final Sparking a Yukari Train; you'll notice that Marisa is temporarily invulnerable before she finishes the spellcard and gets launched.

>> No.760885

>>760862
Thanks for playing, I'm quite pleased with the result of one of the combos

>> No.760888

69.0.30.112:10800

Beginner, Reisen

Let's try this again.

>> No.760899

>>760834
GG.

>> No.760900

>>760834
GG. My apologies for the lag.

>> No.760954

>>760798
Rehostan 1.02

>> No.760959

SWR Timeline

-Everyone uses Remila

-Everyone uses Alice

Future - Everyone uses Suika

>> No.760963

>>760839
im that suika, i have no idea, he should have totally won that round with that runpast, maybe a glitch? maybe just some weird frame properties

>> No.760975

So the endings are the same even if you use continues in story mode?

>> No.760978

>>760959
>Future - Everyone uses Youmu
Fixed

>> No.760986
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>>760959
>Future - Everyone uses Reisen

fixed

>> No.760988
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760988

GGs, asdf.

I can't beat you at all now. I'm reckless and you're not. I think we're watching each other's spellcards more than each other. I was getting pretty unnerved there, it seemed like you were guessing when I would and wouldn't continue the pressure and you always got it right. Every single time. And I know it's not just my RAAAAAGE, but Suika's elbow has so much priority it's not even funny.

If you don't mind, I'd like to continue fighting again right after this post. I had to stop to do something.

>> No.760998

>>760568
great games again magister, that border trap you are integrating is quite good, i probably only won the bulk of the matches by lucky grabs at the end of rounds ( oh man im so scared of that omni directional whatever )

>> No.761004

>>760986

If anyone could beat me with Reisen right now I would die of shock. She better get buffed soon, or she'll just be eye candy yet again, just without her sexy jacket.

>> No.761007

tatari.. most fun alice mirror since xeno's at early may

and that last 236 saved my ass from the killer 6a... going out for dinner, so gg for now

>> No.761009

GGS Kelrey. I should have saved these replays, I have much to learn from seeing you play.

>> No.761017

>>761004
ok never mind, i have to beat this guy before i go

hosting, ip up there 2 games of udonge

>> No.761023

>>761004

I'm not TOO awful with Reisen, but how badly she gets shut down depends largely on how skilled the other person is.

>> No.761043
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761043

74.237.52.77:10800
Hosting from Atlanta, GA, USA.
V1.02 - Weather On
INtermediate+ Yukari, Intermediate- Everyone else

>> No.761047
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>>761004
I defeated some people with mai waifu.The game becomes more risky with her and I enjoy it more.

>> No.761051

Intermediate Reimu US West
68.96.176.239:10800

>> No.761063

>>760758
been using alice since the first demo, and in iamp

>>760564
my ip

>> No.761070

72.39.120.59:07500

>> No.761079

If anyone from the UK is looking for a few games...

92.9.33.113:49216

Beginner level, I guess...

>> No.761085

>>761070
Note. Beginner level.

>> No.761100

67.171.27.165:11712
US West - high-ish Intermediate leveled Yuyucow, practicing with some Reisen and maybe Suika.

>> No.761106

if i can do that with my third game ever with udonge, people can with with udonge. dinner sizzler

>> No.761107

win with*

>> No.761110

>>760954


lol, imanoob.
gg

>> No.761117

>>760866
gg's. I should retire my Remi, that game was a fucking blowout.

>> No.761121

>>761063
it doesnt feel right w/o fighting alice. but your reisen's strings are brilliant.

>> No.761124

>>760954
Whoever joined, GGs. If I could offer some advice I would say you should learn how to dash through projectiles.

>> No.761133

>>761124


Yeah, I'd say, I managed to best you a bit in melee there with the Dog, but I would get repeatedly owned when cornered. Sakyua's warp was probably my best friend there.

>> No.761138

>>760866

Lol, awesome games. My rock throw and you throw are both great reversals, though you did a good job avoiding my other 5k dmg spell card (the one where she just sorta reaches out a bit) Sorry if it seemed like a ragequit on one of 'em. I was getting really bad lag after one of the spell cards and it didn't sync back up after ~30 seconds so I quit.

>> No.761143

>>761079

Nobody? So ronery. ;_;

>> No.761144

>>761117

Don't worry, I used to be a Remi main. I knew everything you were gonna do.

>> No.761150

>>761138
I figured something like that after I managed to corner lock your super mobile Suika for a whole 30 seconds.

>> No.761151

gg giant tree, had lots of fun

>> No.761154

>>761133
Aye, it was combo practice after all. You know, Reisen is considered lowest tier. It'll be an uphill battle for you if you decide to pick her up.

>> No.761159

>>760859
GGs.
>terrible skill
No. But you definitely need to block/graze more; pay more attention to what the opponent's doing than to getting YOUR moves off right and you'll win a LOT more rounds.

>> No.761161

>>761150

You mean the character's super mobile or the way I play her?

>> No.761164

>>761079

What the hell happened there? The framerate was terrible.

>> No.761169

>>761043
GGs. I wanted you to use Yukari a bit more though, so I could get some replays of her.

>> No.761171
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wc:189.135.121.97:10800

>> No.761173

Rehostan

68.147.122.15:10800
Canada West

>> No.761174

>>761159
haha yeah, i used to be decent at fighters a few years ago but i lost all my skill somewhere, i just play for fun now
loved our suika vs suika when you'd do dashing c and i'd do dashing b and we'd totally miss eachother

>> No.761176

>>761169
GGs. Sorry. I misunderstood your repeated returning to her. If you'd like me to rehost I will play a bit more with Yukari only.

>> No.761178

>>761174

I lol'd at the mere thought of it.

>> No.761179

>>761176
Nah, it's alright. But if you could save some replays and upload them later, it would be great.

>> No.761181

>>760988
ggs again magister, sorry i have to go now, but i'll be on a bit later if you want to go again

>> No.761189

>>761161
Both, you're all over the place while I tend avoid getting close unless I see someone whiff something. Getting you in any sort of lock means you were probably lagging hard. I really need to figure out a plan for Iku in Typhoon though, beyond use DISCO SUPER. She has trouble in projectile battles when I can't stun people with 6C.

>> No.761188
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761188

>>761043
Rehosting.

>> No.761193
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761193

You've got be the hardest player I've ever faced, asdf, and I can hold my own against Armando. There's so many things about Suika that convinces me she's top tier. Of course, everyone thinks that Reimu's pretty high tier, also, but as you can see, with someone as reckless as I am, it's not such a good estimate. I'm going to keep practicing at not being so foolhardy. Next time we play I swear I won't be so easily beaten.

...I said that last time, didn't I?

>> No.761196

rehosting>>761171

>> No.761200

>>761193
Her level 5 supers are just crazy. People complain about Marisa's level 5's, but Suika has two unblockable 5k damage cards.

>> No.761202

>>761173
GG. Laggy but I'm pretty far from Canada anyways, haha. Sorry.

>> No.761209

>>761202

Agreed, was hard to hit with anything

>>761173
also, rehostan

>> No.761212

>>761200
>unblockable
Grazeable?

>> No.761216

>>761212
They're the grabs, I think.

>> No.761221

>>761212
You can escape her Final Atomic Buster if you can jump fast enough, but if she touches you with the super rock throw you're done.

>> No.761222

87.194.195.48:10800 EU
Squeezing in a couple games before bed. Reisen / Yukari.

>> No.761250

ip,reset,etc: 189.135.121.89:10800

>> No.761252

GGs Vercing. That's enough keepaway fireball spam Suika for a week for me.

>> No.761255

>>761188
Laaaag. GGs anyway.

>> No.761263

>>761100
GGs. Reisen really is terrible.

>> No.761269

>>761051
GG, Your Remilia owned the shit out of me ~.~

>> No.761277

>>761221

You can just BLOCK that one.

>> No.761278

76.4.234.247:10800

US West, Novice. Hopefully it works.

>> No.761283

>>761212
Well, Suika only has one unblockable special and thats the one you have to grab with at point blank range. The rock grabbing one is blockable but it does a lot of spirit damage so you can result in guard crushes etc.

>> No.761300

And btw, Yukari's train is 10x better than either of Suika's grabs.

>> No.761304

btw, I connect in some hosts and I see they lack some stages (Like Reisen or Suika ones).They must unlock them for being available?Can happen the same with Iku/Tenshi?

>> No.761306

>>761193
Now that you've learned how to block, I just plain can't touch you.

Komachi really needs a way to break guarding that doesn't leave her with more delay than the opponent.

>> No.761311

rehosting>>761250

>> No.761321

>>761193
hardest player? seriously? i bet compared to those irc pros im a scrub ( first time i went into iamp irc i got wrecked so hard vs a youmu that i thought theres no possible way of learning iamp to that level so i completely gave it up, and now i fear of stepping near swr irc for a repeat of that same thing )

anyways, all i do is like that gimmicky j.5a and 6bs and pull off lucky grabs to win

hmm about tiers, i think suika is high, but im not sure about top, her corner pressure isnt solid enough imo ( lots of openings ), and her guard breaks are generally useless without a spellcard but yeah, j.5a is pretty lame, and so is that grab. she also does exceptionally well in weather. no melee = 2b win, and superarmor = j.6a spam + unblockable grab on ground ( however i hate that river crap so much, i cant connect anything )

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761322

>>761043
Rehosting.

>> No.761329

GGs Coward

Sorry if I wasn't very aggressive, but I was still in the mindset I was using to fight that Suika.
>>761283
The rock one isn't blockable. I tried several times, and I also tried other things. High jumping point-blank doesn't work. I also tried 623B, which has invincibility against melee in the first few frames, and I was still grabbed. The only way I could escape if done in my face was something with instant startup and tons of invincibility frames, i.e. Omni Directional Demon Binding Circle/Pillar. I wish her Wind God Kick still had the instant startup it used to...

>> No.761336

>>761269
Thanks, and I'm surpised I did that well as her. I used Sakuya in IaMP and screwed around with Remi. I didn't think I could do that well with Remi, but I think it's time to ditch Sakuya since I did terrible with her.
The Yuyuko was an accident, and I feel sorta cheap for spamming in the last round as her.
GG and I hope I can fight you again some other time.

>> No.761355

Two tornadoes in one day, can it get any better?

69.251.108.170:07500 ec

>> No.761357

gg rabbit
i cant beat your youmu

>> No.761359

>>761329
It CAN be blocked. Seriously. I play Suika, and I've seen it blocked twice in the past half hour.

>> No.761371

>>761329
asdf here, hmm? the rock grab is completely blockable ( and punishable! you did this a few times too ), but the one where she slams thrice is unblockable ( but you've high jumped out of this i think )

>> No.761373

>>761357
GGs, you're the better random. I find now I just can't compete against any intermediate players these days unless I'm playing Youmu.

>> No.761374

>>761321
As far as IRC goes, my powerlevel is actually from the average level of play in there. There's quite a few better than me, but I've never played them out of fear.

Out of the top, it's something like

Bell
Xeno
G0dsh0t
Mauve
Armando

But I'm an absolute scrub at IaMP, so I wouldn't know a thing. This could be completely wrong. Armando's the only one I've fought, and like I said, I don't get completely destroyed, and I can win a few.

...I guess you're actually about the same level as him, but it's just a different aura I get from you because you don't go to the IRC, where I EXPECT someone so good to lurk.

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>>761329
Oh, it's blockable alright. Unless we're thinking of different spellcards.

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>> No.761391

>>761371
...when I think about it, I didn't even try to block it normally. I always tried to escape without actual contact. Oh god, I'm an idiot.

Disregard everything I've said about it, I suck big black meaty cocks.

>> No.761392

>>761359
Seconding Rock throw being blockable. You can chain it into a hell of a lot of things, so that doesn't really matter so much.
Final Atomic Buster is not, but you can superjump out of it if you start mashing 8D when you see the flash. Might not be able to after chaining it with a j.5a, but I haven't been able to pull that off in a match yet.

>> No.761393

>>761373
I find not specializing in one character is more fun. Sure I lose more matches but doing the same combos over and over is no fun.

>> No.761399

>>761391
oh god, now he'll block my rock grabs, ugh how else can i win now ;_;

>> No.761401

>>761392
quintupling it would be more accurate.

>> No.761409

Intermediate Reimu US West
68.96.176.239:10800

>> No.761413

209.161.236.160:10800 canada east.

i wanna get beaten up.

>> No.761414

Argh, Komachi needs a way to break guards that doesn't give her more lag than the opponent.

Seriously, what the hell, Tasofro? I bet anything you could do nothing but sit in the corner and punish Komachi after moves and win without a single scratch.

>> No.761425

Does anyone else enjoy doing stupid things while fighting?

One of these days I'll run into someone that will plop down black holes while I sprite swap with komachi until we get bored, throw around fireworks and die

>> No.761430

Ok I updated to 1.02 and now i can't watch replays

wtf?

>> No.761443

>>761430
version incompatibility

>> No.761447

>>761425
I sure do. My favorite thing to try is to defeat the opponent using no projectiles or combos.

>> No.761451

>>761425
When no melee weather comes up, with Yuyuko, I often just fly zigzags around the map because flight cost is reduced by a huge amount.

>> No.761452

>>761425
I like messing around while playing the game.

It IS a game, after all.

>> No.761457

>>761425
helicopter suika is awesome

>> No.761469

what this game needs, is voices

voiced suika from mugen is so awesome I cream my pants every time

>> No.761481

>>761409
Good games.

http://Intermediate Reimu US West
68.96.176.239:10800

>> No.761494

>>761409

GGs, but I'm trying to learn something instead of beating up an "intermediate" constantly. My suggestions: learn Reimu's awesome blockstring, stop using Reimu's one projectile as if it were god's gift to SWR

>> No.761536

ggs kyon. Totally didn't know you couldn't block the train, though it does seem kinda common sense-ish.

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>>761355
GGs. Nice Alice! I think I didn't beat you once. Beware of the yukaritrain though

>> No.761541

76.4.234.247:10800

US West, Novice. If it doesn't work, give insight as to where I screwed up the config.

>> No.761547

First try at hosting

68.148.94.34:10800 west coast

>> No.761626

>>761481
GGs, you're definitely above my level.

>> No.761627

>>761481
Good games, really close matches.

>> No.761636

GGs Garwood.

>> No.761637

>>761538
I'd run a train on her. If you know what I mean.

>> No.761644

Lots of Suikas crawling out of the woodwork lately. Seems like less and less and less character variation as time goes on. Kind of sad.

>> No.761650

>>761636

Man, you stomped me every time, haha. I didn't realize Yukari's 5a came out so fast, but even after realizing it I fell into it EVERY god damn time.

I should really main someone instead of just poking around.

>> No.761652

>>761644
Players are getting better. They're picking mains while more weaker players are leaving.

>> No.761658

>>761650
It isn't particularly fast. I just purposely make moves that look like errors to draw out counterable attacks. It's a really risky strategy, but you're not going to catch me playing turtle anytime soon.

>> No.761663
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>>761650
Nah, poking around is fun although I admit that I use Aya when I want to win since she is annoying. If I can't beat someone with her then I just dick around with Yukari or Tenshi or whoever I feel like playing with...

>> No.761671

So anyone noticed any outstanding changes yet from v1.02?

>> No.761677

>>761671

Suika's damage output increased. Her dial-a works now (I thought it had been intentionally made to be how it was since it did 600 more damage than anyone else's). That's probably why there are suddenly so many Suikas as someone said earlier.

>> No.761681

>>761652
>They're picking Suika while more weaker players are leaving.

>> No.761693

>>761681
Still more Alice players, and probably more Yuyuko players if you count people on IRC.

>> No.761689

>>761547
>>761541
None works

>> No.761695

>>761681
There's only like 3 people that use her and I've beaten 2 of them. Don't think I've played the one that plays Magister.

>> No.761700

>>761693
There's also 5 Alices, including me, and one Yuyuko. I don't know where all the fuss is coming from.

>> No.761704

I haven't picked a main yet, but I've noticed I'm a bit better with Alice than most characters. But I like to play characters no one else does, so.

>> No.761707

I only play characters I like, in this case Marisa. Fuck all the others.

>> No.761708

>>761413
GGs limiter, Suika vs. Raymoo is seriously the worst matchup ever but I think that's just SWR's way of telling me I need more practice.

Also, is it just me or did you land in my bullets EVERY single time you used Komachi's 22B/C tonight and last night?

>> No.761710

I'm curious, how many people here main Youmu?

>> No.761711

i various my char alot. reimu,yuyuko, and youmu. learning alice, komachi and patch

>> No.761713
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>>761677
I consider Suika a bad matchup for Reimu in the first place, but now that her dial A combo actually CONNECTS, she can turn the battle so fast it makes your head spin. I can understand that's she strongest canonically, but doing more damage just by mashing A is ridiculous. It's almost double Reimu's dial A. Her j.5A -> j.6A also does tons, and her elbow is almost guaranteed to overprioritize against your own melee attack.

>> No.761716

>>761710
she's one of mine.

>> No.761720

>>761708
still trying to figure out how to use komachi properly.

>> No.761721

>>761695
There's another that took a different approach than the Suika I fought today, also incredibly good. Sideblako or something along those lines.

>> No.761726

The only character I've never seen used would be Komachi.

>> No.761733

>>761726
3 people main her; one of them is butthurt. You know the one.

>> No.761734

>>761710
She's one of my secondaries, at least. As for a main, I'm leaning towards Reisen or Aya.

>> No.761729

>>761713
Youmu's elbow >>>> Suika's elbow. And her dial a is ridiculous, but the other characters easily make up for it and possibly more with real combos.

>> No.761731

>>761721
Haha, Sibladeko. I would have thought he'd stick with Patchy.

>> No.761736

>>761720
Set up a cloud of 623 fountains, and let them come to you.

>> No.761745

>>761695
>only like 3 people that use her
I think you mean 4.

>still trying to figure out how to use komachi properly
GHOSTS 2C GHOSTS 2C GHOSTS 2C GHOSTS 2C

>> No.761738

>>761721

What's the usual approach, and what was different about his?

>> No.761740

>>761734
I fear the day when people start maining Aya. Her tornado rush crushes me so badly

>> No.761742

>>761736
>Set up a cloud of 623 fountains, and switch places.
Fixed?

>> No.761743

MAGISTER PLAY ME
69.251.108.170:07500 ec

>> No.761754

>>761742
Nope, you can just start dashing/flying when you see tele come in.

If you sit in the cloud, they're going to have to graze in somehow, and you can use your hueg melee range to smack them if they try anything.

>> No.761751

>>761736
A better way to go about it is to set up a fountain of wisps and use your 22B. Alternatively, you can knock them down and set up two 5C wisps, one on the ground and one just above it in the air, dash forward and use your 22B to land your opponent in a decent cross-up.

>> No.761760

>>761754
You say that, but it's surprising how many people will get tricked by that. It is a relatively good way to land a few cheap hits.

>> No.761767

We really need to do some kind of poll in the next SWR netplay thread, first time you post in a thread list your main or something.

>> No.761763

>>761754
Or they could also sit back and spam ranged attacks.

>> No.761771

>>761733
i c wut u did thar

>>761745
Using 2c is very situational, and I still haven't found a good time to use it unless they get hit by the 214 fully charged ghost rush on the corner.

Komachi's main problems are being ridiculously slow, and no way to punish blocking. Even a fully charged 6a blocked incorrectly is a disadvantage for Komachi. Yes, a disadvantage to crush a spirit orb. I don't think she'll see much use outside of casual play.

>> No.761772

back from dinner, rehosting til like 10pm

69.235.5.72 7500
alice/sakuya/komachi, 4th game udonge+marisa

>> No.761782

>>761771
My money is on them either nerfing some characters blockcrush strings or buffing other characters. Right now the top characters all have effective crushes, but there's a whole slew of characters who are fodder with inability to break guard without cards. Easily the biggest balance issue right now.

>> No.761783

>>761767
Fund it!

>> No.761786

68.147.122.15:10800
Canada West, last hosting for the night

>> No.761792

hosting 68.89.185.17:10800, US
hmm the only char i've played on netplay is suika, i guess since i did well with her i never bothered to learn anyone else

>>761729
oh god so true, i play so defensively now vs youmu, with shitloads of j.5cs

>>761738
assuming hes talking about me, my main game consists of controlling my flys/hjs in order to land j.5a, j.6a, 6b, and attempting to find an opening for a lvl 5 rock grab, also a bit of ground pressure involved i suppose

>> No.761800

>>761729
Agreed that Youmu's elbow is superior, but Suika tapping out 2.4k is equivalent to Aya's BnB, and I'm sure you KNOW that hurts. Not that I expect any Suika worth their salt to do such a thing, but there a plenty of other things that are difficult to deal with.

You can't graze her 236B/C for some reason, so 5AA 5B 236B is deceptively safe. Even if you watch for a spot to graze and punish her, the fireball will eat you alive. Thus, the only thing you can do it graze upwards. No going back down, though, because fireworks thrown right after you escaped prevent you from getting close. It really hard to catch Suika off guard if played right, and I'm GOOD at finding openings.

>> No.761821

>>761738
The other very good Suika I fought set up blockcades of mini-Suikas, then a fastball, then fireworks. With three different types of danmaku coming at you, you'll try to graze, right? The fastball forces you to graze unless you want to get caught in blockstun when the mini-Suikas arrive, which would give him time to come and pressure you with high-low mixups. Thus, after a forced graze(flying or otherwise), the fireworks would prevent a direct attack. If you try to graze the fireworks (thrown while Suika lies on her back, so it's right above her), you get hit with a j.5A j.6A fastball in the air, and her BnB on the ground. So you're forced to block the fireworks, making everything you just did useless.

>> No.761822

>>761763
>You can't graze her 236B/C for some reason
The bullet part is grazable. The punch animation counts as a melee, and is not.

Also, superarmor during some frames lol.

>> No.761830

>>761800
Agreed the damage is too high. Especially given the aerial explosion kick to fireball being SO loose and yet high damage that you don't even have to cancel on hit you can wait until Suika recovers before throwing it.
Combine with the dashing flip attack which grazes and at worst trades hits due to huge priority and tiny hitbox. Her hitbox is almost too small.

>> No.761832

72.85.144.213
Noob Komachi/Youmo/Aya/Reimu

>> No.761837

>>761800
Suika's 236B/C has a really large melee hit as well as the fire that comes out. And by the way, if you think Suika's BnBs are bad, you should see some of her other combos. Charged 2B leads to a 3,000-3,500 damage combo. j.2A leads to a 2,800 damage combo midscreen or a 3,000 damage one in the corner. Elbow in corner leads to 2,700 damage combo. 623B in corner leads to EASY 2,800 damage combo. These are all pretty hard to land, and some don't work on some characters, but they, along with the awesome 6B and 5/6C, are why I main Suika: it's more fun when you can punish the enemy's mistakes HARD than just having a perfect blockstring or ohgodinvincibleghostspam or a retarded "melee" attack.

>> No.761853

>>761830
Loliball? 66B is better anyway. It grazes as well, but can hit multiple times, giving it more damage and draining 3(!!) spirit orbs if blocked high.

>> No.761858
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761858

Noob here;

So...
What exactly does "Perfect Maid" do?

It seems like Sakuya just trades her warping ability for standing around like Dio...

>> No.761859

72.193.61.58:7500
US West

>> No.761861

>>761858
It's a counter. If they attack you while you're posing, knives will surround them.

>> No.761863

>>761861
Melee attack.

>> No.761864

>>761858
Counter.

>> No.761866

It counters all melee? Both high and low?

>> No.761868

>>761858
I look at that picture and imagine dog Sakuya making whining noises then pissing herself. She looks like she has to go.

>> No.761869

>>761866
It doesn't work on the only melee attack used predictably and consistently enough to warrant countering in the first place.

>> No.761870

Intermediate Reimu US West
68.96.176.239:10800

>> No.761876

I loved the counters when I first started playing, then quickly realized any halfway decent player will not open with a melee attack once they know you took that skill. I still take Sakuya's though, if only for a taunt animation.

>> No.761884

>>761869
Could be worse. Ever tried using Yukari's 421B to block projectiles? You know, the entire and sole ability the skill has? Over a third of the game's projectiles ignore the boundary and whack her.

>> No.761891

>>761792
hmm, disconnect? crash? oh well, ggs

>> No.761895

>>761891
iono. it just stopped. i thought u quit. gg, suika really hurts.

>> No.761905

>>761884
That move is up there with Reisen's red aura ability on the 'WTF where they thinking' list. I'm just glad here teleport and that move aren't reversed in motion, because I'd fucking rage every time I got that move by accident. I can't use Aya because I keep doing the shitty crow move by accident instead of her psycho crusher.

>> No.761911

>>761905
Get the alternate skill card that makes her make a whirlwind around herself,it doesn't slow you down and it's good for comboing,plus it replaces the annoying crows.

>> No.761931

any ausfags around?

>> No.761936

>>761786
GGs Anon, I'd like to play more but Im going to sleep in a bit

>> No.761937

>>761786
GG Rabbit. Lag caused a lot of bad inputs, but your Youmu game is still rather formidable. It also doesn't help that I didn't set my profile, but I doubt it would have had much impact.

>> No.761951

>>761937
I just wish I could hold water with characters other than her. The only random match I could win was the Yukari one, and only because both of us had no idea what we were doing. Hats off to you man.

>> No.761980

bump, where is everyone?

>> No.761984

>>761980
It's on autosage.

>> No.762008

>>761870
Thank you for breaking my online play cherry orz

>> No.762010

>>761870
GGs, you gave me a run for my money in some of those matches

>> No.762047

>>761772
ggs. fffffffffffffffffffffuck. any tips? Also, why do nearly 99% of your j5as and 6as beat mine?

>> No.762064

i replied in the new topic due to this one's autosaging

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