Hello friends, thought I would update you on the progress of the UBW installer for today! Listed bellow are all the things i've accomplished in the last couple of months:

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Message Mon Feb 25 16:28:13 2008 No.75503 [Reply] [Original]

Hello friends, thought I would update you on the progress of the UBW installer for today!

Listed bellow are all the things i've accomplished in the last couple of months:

>>	E-mouse !LNaFATMuso Mon Feb 25 16:36:19 2008 No.75556 File: 159 KB, 1279x858, 1203957379465.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:37:09 2008 No.75559 File: 378 KB, 470x517, 1203957429006.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>75503 MESSAAAAGEE!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:44:27 2008 No.75599 File: 213 KB, 542x678, 1203957867629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 16:55:02 2008 No.75650 File: 18 KB, 502x500, 1203958502750.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] - Got promoted to Head of Affairs and am now making enough money to buy a ring for my fiancee

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 17:13:00 2008 No.75768 File: 168 KB, 800x600, 1203959580937.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>75744 Its not the complete pasta Here is the full version: http://www.wikichan.org/index.php/Unlimited_blade_works_installer

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 20:51:47 2008 No.76875
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The UBW Installer is a particle accelerator and hadron collider located at CERN, near Geneva, Switzerland. Currently under construction, the Installer is scheduled to begin operation in May 2008. The Installer is expected to become the world's largest and highest-energy particle accelerator. The Installer is being funded and built in collaboration with over two thousand physicists from thirty-four countries as well as hundreds of universities and laboratories. When activated, it is theorized that the Installer will produce the elusive Higgs boson, the observation of which could confirm the predictions and 'missing links' in the Standard Model of physics and could explain how other elementary particles acquire properties such as mass. The verification of the existence of the Higgs boson would be a significant step in the search for a Grand Unified Theory, which seeks to unify three of the four fundamental forces: electromagnetism, the strong force, and the weak force. The Higgs boson may also help to explain why the remaining force, gravitation, is so weak compared to the other three forces. In addition to the Higgs boson, other theorized novel particles that might be produced, and for which searches are planned, include strangelets, micro black holes, magnetic monopoles and supersymmetric particles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:06:54 2008 No.76963 File: 11 KB, 200x200, 1203973614965.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MESSAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:09:00 2008 No.76975 File: 156 KB, 720x480, 1203973740027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MESSAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:17:25 2008 No.77040 File: 40 KB, 640x640, 1203974245559.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oy oy, Message-kun..just hand it over slowly. Although, if you want to keep it, that's fine too. I don't mind playing with you a bit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:25:37 2008 No.77098 File: 18 KB, 80x80, 1203974737100.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>76830 The sad truth is that I don't really care what people want the installer to do. I care about what I want it to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:27:36 2008 No.77110 File: 127 KB, 1480x928, 1203974856708.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Actual Screenshot from UBW

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:30:23 2008 No.77131 File: 21 KB, 1231x156, 1203975023422.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>77121 Seems it was a genuine post.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:38:30 2008 No.77189 File: 189 KB, 843x649, 1203975510484.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hai guise. I'm urr.... a bit busy, have to finish Crisis and all these eroge... I'll update you on progress soon.

>>	Message Mon Feb 25 21:39:37 2008 No.77197 File: 189 KB, 843x649, 1203975577206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hai guise. I'm urr.... a bit busy, have to finish Crisis and all these eroge... I'll update you on progress soon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:40:27 2008 No.77204 File: 79 KB, 699x818, 1203975627645.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>77197

>>	Message Mon Feb 25 21:41:27 2008 No.77212 File: 74 KB, 640x480, 1203975687249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] IM IN UR MIRROR MOON BUILDIN UR INSTALLUR

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Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:52:43 2008 No.77305
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I am the release engineer of my patch
Delay is my body, and procastrination is my blood
The fans have been waiting for over a thousand days
Not knowing Heavens Feel
Nor playing UBW
Withstood criticism to create many delays
At this rate, thier hands will never play anything
So, as I sit on my ass, Unlimited Installer Works

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 25 21:59:53 2008 No.77354 File: 46 KB, 1024x768, 1203976793233.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>77247 I want to belive

Anonymous Mon Feb 25 22:12:06 2008 No.77418
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I am the crash of your soft.
C is my body, and code is my blood.
I have created over a thousand BSODs.
Unaware of K.I.S.S.
Nor aware of *nix.
Have withstood pain to create many errors.
Yet, those hands will never release anything.
My whole mind was "Unlimited Bug Works."

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:30:08 2008 No.75512 BUT I SEE NOTHING

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:32:14 2008 No.75529 - Painted my shed; made sure to carefully observe the drying process.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:32:58 2008 No.75524 Oh god I lol'ed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:33:07 2008 No.75537 LMAO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:34:09 2008 No.75542 - Finish Crysis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:35:03 2008 No.75548 >>75542 You know he has bad taste if he bothers to finish Crysis...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:35:09 2008 No.75549 - Played through it again to...test it. With the door locked.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:39:01 2008 No.75576 - Accidentally solved the Riemann hypothesis while programming the UBW installer - scrapped all work and started over. Current mood: annoyed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:39:39 2008 No.75580 - Accidentally proved the Riemann hypothesis while programming the UBW installer - scrapped all work and started over. Current mood: annoyed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:43:39 2008 No.75597 -successfully created an UBW themed mmo then scrapped it when I realized that one of the pixels was not the right color

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:49:57 2008 No.75621 -successfully pissed off an entire fan-base with complete stupidity on my part

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:50:07 2008 No.75626 >>75599 Jesus christ. That face.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:51:31 2008 No.75634 -Swam the length of the Atlantic with UBW installed on my digital watch, to test how it functioned under water.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:55:59 2008 No.75653 thanks to his avatar whenever I picture myself strangling Message in real life I always imagine him as a guy with blond hair trying to touch my face whit a freaky 3 finger hand

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:56:04 2008 No.75661 In before UBW Installer copypasta.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:56:06 2008 No.75662 >>75634 bringing to light that no respectable person really installs windows vista on their computer. incoming shitstorm.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 00:57:44 2008 No.75671 >>75661 /r/

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:02:11 2008 No.75697 >>75634 It would have made more sense with Utawarerumono.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:03:21 2008 No.75705 >>75697 i lol'd.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:03:27 2008 No.75707 >>75697 True, but it is technically the same installer

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:04:37 2008 No.75713

'Wait, what?' 'That... That's... That's not right!' 'That can't be right... what... what's with that?' I could only babble incomprehensible gibberish. 'Hey now, didn't I say it would be JUST like in a hentai? Are you surprised?'. She laughed. But not with the previous warmth and kindness. The laugter this time was more befitting of a hellspawned demon. If my previous reaction was overwhelming shock, this time it couldn't be put in words. As I was helpless, she rushed to me with unearthly speed, tearing away clothes as if wanting to break my body into pieces. I was hauled up and bent over the bed. I couldn't think, let alone move. I was helpless. 'Well then, let's begin the installation procedure.' I could only hear her voice, laughing with satisfaction. And then... 'AAAAAAAGH' 'GAAAH' 'AAAAAA' I screamed. A huge, hard object had been inserted in my colon without warning. The pain was extreme. Making matters worse, it immediately started moving, thrusting in and out as I screamed, time and time again. Between jolts of pain I could feel blood from my torn insides slowly seeping out. If anything, it did seem to act as lubricant, lessening the pain to an extent. As I stopped shouting, I could hear another voice, moaning and panting, louder and louder. And finally... 'A...ah I'm co...coming... aaaaah!'

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:05:52 2008 No.75714

What followed next was beyond reason. An unlimited number of blades materialised, one by one, inside of me, making their way out, tearing my body to shreds in the process. And as that happened, it was flashing before my eyes. Not my life, that is, but UBW. I was feeling it with every fiber of my broken body. Archer's GAR, epic fights between servants, all had become a part of me. An experience beyond life and time. I was on the verge of death, but it didn't matter. I was happy. This was more than I could have ever hoped for, from my life. 'Installation succesfull. No errors have been reported.' her words, the last I'd ever hear, sounded in my ears. And at that point I understood what it all had been for. Months of testing, inhuman amounts of work, all to acheive that ultimate experience. With my last thread of counsciousness, I begged Message for forgiveness. I knew he wouldn't hear me, but I had to do it. I had finally understood the meaning behind Message's work, and I died content, knowing that even if I had lived on, there would never be anything that would remotely equal what I had just experienced. I was complete. That was the true meaning of UBW installation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:08:32 2008 No.75727 >>75713 >>75714 wut? lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:10:07 2008 No.75744 >>75727 the ubw copypasta.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:15:08 2008 No.75792

Mirror Moon: Hey, you want some pancakes? I was just about to make some!
Anon: Oh yeah, your pancakes are great! I remember your brownies, those were awesome!
MM: Okay, then just sit down and wait till they're finished!
A: Thanks dude, you rock!

*later*

MM: Well, it looks like I ran out of flour. Would you mind waiting a bit longer?
A: It's okay, take your time. You can't make pancakes without flour, can you?

*later*

MM: The pancakes are finished!
A: Hell yes, you rock! Can we eat them now?
MM: No, I still need to test their taste. What if I made a mistake?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:18:41 2008 No.75826 >>75768 >>75714 >>75713 Is it okay to be aroused by that Installer?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 01:20:12 2008 No.75840 >>75792 i lol'd

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 03:47:38 2008 No.79949 File: 141 KB, 640x480, 1203997658599.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Let the picture speak.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 04:41:23 2008 No.76830

Fuck you, Message.

Seriously, fuck you. I don't want to be able to run UBW on fucking toasters. I don't want a "beast of a thousand faces" that can upgrade, degrade, make marmelade and fetch my newspaper for me, either.

All I want is a simple program that extracts some .xp3 files to the relevant directory and overwrites them if need be. Testing things is fine, but two months to make an installer and bitching when people asks for updates?

Honestly, right now I'd settle for a .rar with the updated files that I could just copy to my game dir, perhaps with an informative readme.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 04:46:41 2008 No.76850

>>76830
I want a RAR. At least I could probably make that work with any fucked-up pirate copy instead of having to hunt down the original unedited ISOs like I did with Melty Blood. Man that was a lot of work; what right does mirrorMoon have to completely invalidate my hard-earned illegal games, jeez.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 04:53:15 2008 No.76880 >>76875 It also makes waffles and cures cancer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 04:53:55 2008 No.76877 >>76830 the readme would be the next bible

>>	UBW RAGE GOES IN IN ALL FIELDS UBW RAGE Tue Feb 26 05:00:57 2008 No.76913 If any Mirror Moon staff are reading this post, could you PLEASE keep Message away from any meaningful translation project in the future? Like, all of them? Forever?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:13:01 2008 No.77000 RRRRAAAAAAAGEEEEEEEEE!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:14:13 2008 No.77008 Man, I'm going to miss those threads.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:15:31 2008 No.77018 >>77008 No, you are not (for the next couple of years at least).

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:16:26 2008 No.77027 >>77008 You won't, because UBW is NEVER coming out at this rate. (RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGEEEEEEEE)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:17:49 2008 No.77032 >>77008 no you won't. first they'd have to disappear. And for that to happen, the UBW installer would have to come out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:18:31 2008 No.77047 Why won't anyone go to their forums and start a shistorm or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:19:04 2008 No.77050 >>77047 lazy Anon is lazy

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:20:11 2008 No.77058 And I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden swords.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:21:01 2008 No.77061 At this point, driving to Message's house in the Netherlands and copying the patch files to a USB drive seems more reasonable than wating for him to, you know, make an installer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:21:19 2008 No.77063 >>77047 Internet to those who dare.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:22:21 2008 No.77072 >>77008 No, you are not (for the next couple of years at least).

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:23:07 2008 No.77076 And his head and his hairs were white as white wool and as snow. And his eyes were as a flame of fire.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:23:45 2008 No.77082 why are the translation HF Route? We all will live in some kind of virtual reality when this thing is complete

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:24:16 2008 No.77090 >>77047 I dunno, it could backfire and Message could leave MM, forcing another guy to do his work. ... Actually, that doesn't sound pretty bad at all. To the raidmobile!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:24:51 2008 No.77083 >>77047 because no one can see it as a mean of making message to move his lazy butt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:25:58 2008 No.77095 >>77090 Message will delete everything!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:26:44 2008 No.77103 >>77095 No way, that would mean actual effort on his part.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:28:01 2008 No.77116 MESSAGE IS SO TSUNDERE KAWAII DESU NE =^____^= HE'S JUST TEASING US, THIS MESSAGE :3333

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:28:08 2008 No.77118 >>77110 I lol'd. Then I sad'd.

>>	Message Tue Feb 26 05:28:28 2008 No.77121 >so what's wrong with the installer then? People kept asking stupid questions so it went on strike.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:28:38 2008 No.77122 >>77110 No wai!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:28:50 2008 No.77114 >>77103 okay you have won this round

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:28:55 2008 No.77115 >>77098 and you want it to stay non existent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:29:20 2008 No.77125 >>77116 FUKKEN RAAAAGGGGGGEEEE

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:29:23 2008 No.77126 WHEN IT'S DONE!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:31:52 2008 No.77137 >>75599 why did i lol message is officially the greatest troll in the history of the internets.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:33:33 2008 No.77155

>>77131
>>63493
For sure the screenshot is genuine (it's still up at mirrormoon forums). Whether or not it's serious, well that's unclear. Message doesn't seem to answer any queries on the subject.

I think the least Message could do is give an update on how the work is coming. Personally, I think he's bitter about all the complaints about him. If only he would stop being a total dick about everything.

It's too bad, because I've seen nothing but good from the rest of mirrormoon.

tl;dr: Fuck you, Message.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:34:09 2008 No.77158 I am tempted to make a "congratulations message" thread congratulating him on his success in making himself e-famous, but I'm on his zero-tolerance list!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:35:44 2008 No.77173 Man, I sure can't wait until I can install the UBW patch on my Windows 95!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:40:10 2008 No.77203 Why the fuck doesn't MM just kick this guy out? Anyone can make an installer. Hell, TakaJun said he was going to release the patch with a simple installer if Message doesn't stop being a gigantic faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:40:20 2008 No.77205 >UBW: Installer is the only thing remaining Isn't it sad, fanbase? ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:41:25 2008 No.77214 >>77210 lol'd again

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:41:30 2008 No.77215 >>77158 Seriously, everything about him seems to scream troll.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:41:54 2008 No.77210 YET THOSE HANDS WILL NEVER HOLD ANYTHING

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:42:15 2008 No.77222 >>77203 Source, please. If this is true, I'll love TakaJun more than I already do (and not in a completely heterosexual way).

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:42:26 2008 No.77223 I have waited over a thousand days

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:42:53 2008 No.77217 >>77203 I don't believe you. Screenshot please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:44:37 2008 No.77247 >>77222 Someone on /a/ messaged him about the progress of the installer a while back, and that's what he responded with. I'm hoping it's true and I wouldn't doubt it, given how unlikable Message is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:45:24 2008 No.77256 >>77247 too good

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:45:36 2008 No.77258 >>77247 Oh, and a while back was less than a month ago, I believe.

>>	~ Tue Feb 26 05:45:57 2008 No.77252 >>76875 That stuff is already explained. http://www.fruechtetheory.com/full.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:46:01 2008 No.77262 The installer has AIDS

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:46:53 2008 No.77260 Actually I'm hoping for someone to help that guy out with Hollow Ataraxia than I'm hoping for UBW and HF. People need to join his cause.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:48:54 2008 No.77274 >>77252 Shit, someone came up with a brand new hypothesis about a fundamental force. Guess we have no choice but to take it as the truth. Sorry CERN guys, pack up your magnets and go home, no more mysteries here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 05:54:10 2008 No.77314 doesn't the installer require LHC to run btw?

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:06:11 2008 No.77390

I'm in ur /jp/, fueling ur RAGE

http://novelnews.net/staff/

Message
Website
http://mirrormoon.org/
Jobs
Reporter, Reviewer
Experience
Finite^n
Bio
The chief newscaster of old, Message has more project hours down than he wants to admit. The release engineer. Fear him, for it is he who stands between you and your unfinished translation patches.
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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:06:25 2008 No.77392 why in the fuck does he make an installer for? Can't we just replace the xp3 files?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:07:21 2008 No.77396 I'm tempted to go on their IRC and ask some sincere questions, but I figure I'll either get ignored or permabanned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:09:44 2008 No.77403 >>77392 The same reason fansubbers do those silly karaoke things, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:10:50 2008 No.77404 >>77212 ...Or not.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:19:21 2008 No.77472

>>77390
>Message
>Website
>http://mirrormoon.org/
>Jobs
>Reporter, Reviewer
>Experience
>Finite^n
>Bio
>The chief newscaster of old, Message has more project hours down than he wants to admit. The release engineer. Fear him, for it is he who stands between you and your unfinished translation patches.

First I was like RAAAAAAAGGGEEEEEE

>User has no posts

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:30:30 2008 No.80966 File: 43 KB, 218x150, 1204007430846.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>80730 Here it comes!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:35:08 2008 No.77587 Oh fuck you, Message.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:52:36 2008 No.81073 File: 159 KB, 642x483, 1204008756101.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81059 I was going to reply but then realized its just a really bad troll. instead... Dozo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 06:53:10 2008 No.81077 File: 9 KB, 253x189, 1204008790654.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81059 >People There's only a PERSON disagreeing so far, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:14:10 2008 No.81183 File: 21 KB, 120x78, 1204010050011.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread needs much proofreading. Yes yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:23:49 2008 No.81252 File: 31 KB, 640x480, 1204010629430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81245

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:32:40 2008 No.81306 File: 6 KB, 100x53, 1204011160897.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81268 HAHAHA and you said YOU were slow. http://forums.mirrormoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=1314

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:43:15 2008 No.81360 File: 90 KB, 500x375, 1204011795617.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You know what? Fuck this shit. Everybody complains, complains, complains. I can't stand it anymore. I can't stand it anymore. So now this thread is about bunnies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:43:50 2008 No.81364 File: 150 KB, 400x300, 1204011830367.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everybody liked bunnies, right? If Message was a bunny, nobody would complain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:44:26 2008 No.81366 File: 144 KB, 136x193, 1204011866309.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81360 Fuck you, just hide the thread. Regardless, have some (touhou) bunny

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:44:37 2008 No.81369 File: 159 KB, 375x500, 1204011877787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People like bunnies, you see.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:51:05 2008 No.78187 They have an installer for Utawarerumono. They have an installer for Fate/Stay Night. What the hell is so hard about taking one of those installers and changing the file names?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:53:25 2008 No.78209 I assume the UBW installer is capable of curing cancer already, correct?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:55:51 2008 No.81418 File: 13 KB, 164x123, 1204012551064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81397 It would speed up,if some Anon just hacked Message and took things into their own hands(In other words,creating our own damn installer or find a manual way).

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 07:56:09 2008 No.81422 File: 35 KB, 500x537, 1204012569629.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just think about Message taking so many suppositories up his ass that he explodes.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:00:19 2008 No.78279 ok fuck this who wants to be an hero and make a thread at MM forums I would but Im too lazy

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:02:43 2008 No.78294 STAND UP AND SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:06:57 2008 No.78325 I think message is a pretty cool guy. Eh works on the UBW patch and doesn't finishing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:08:09 2008 No.78341 MESSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:08:38 2008 No.81500 File: 5 KB, 148x149, phoenix.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81475 YOU MOTHER FUCKER,HOW DID YOU FIND US!?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:09:48 2008 No.78347 someone go make a thread complaining already so we can get new stuff to bitch about

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:14:52 2008 No.81542 File: 168 KB, 500x375, pantaloons.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>81534 Oh, sorry, kind of ran away with myself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 08:15:29 2008 No.78405 message is one of the few people from the internet that I actually hate by now

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:02:48 2008 No.79588 Guys! Don't you get it? This is just a front! They are working on a secret project. A secret project- dare I say it? - called METAL GEAR.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:03:42 2008 No.79596 Yet those hands will never hold anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:09:25 2008 No.79623 The Message jokes about offering to help with installers make me lol but I still think he's the biggest douche of the VN scene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:11:14 2008 No.79637 >>75503 Fuck you, making me lol when I have sore throat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:25:02 2008 No.79737 >>78294 here you go http://forums.mirrormoon.org/

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:26:12 2008 No.79746 >>78279 Why must you fail so hard?

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:29:11 2008 No.79766

Anon, the day this fucking installer comes out, I'll pull every single string I know and get it decompiled, have the translation files extracted (or maybe just copypasta them from the FSN folder), then make a two-minute installer (probably one of those AutoRAR things), and post it all over the fucking web.

It's the only thing I can think of, that will serve as a fitting revenge.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:40:06 2008 No.79870

>>79766

Easy enough to, I cracked both their melty blood installers for the files for my pirated copy.

ex: Melty Blood React 1.0 archive password:

98AC2BAE8F885C52B1F43E7540F51EFF47B7A903A12860F231644DFA179DFAC5

Melty Blood 1.7 Patch

7D0C944C9E68ACF5E152DCBA25EA0CBBF01CB2665B5493B8BE7CD89A6BEF15D4

The encrypted archives are the nstmp01.tmp which contain the patched data04.p files which you need to run the games the english!

Have fun if anyone actually uses this :P

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:41:38 2008 No.79890 >>79870 Addendum to my comment, if you guys need to extract the files to do what I said, I recommend Universal Extractor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:50:34 2008 No.79970 >>79870 latest Melty Blood React cracked translation patch, do want ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:52:02 2008 No.79987 >>79870 Ill help. I have bandwidth out the ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 11:53:32 2008 No.80013 >>79987 I'll get around eventually to cleaning up all the files and hosting the cracked patch somewhere...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 12:36:08 2008 No.80327 We should go raid the mirrormoon forums and wait to see how long it takes for Message to say the installer is "delayed" just to piss us off...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 12:36:12 2008 No.80329 >>79870 What was there to crack? It installed fine with my ISOs.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 12:39:08 2008 No.80362

>>80329

Most torrents had a Melty Blood ReAct Final Tuned install just sitting on a dvd .iso that didn't work for the patches. You needed the Melty Blood and the ReAct disks to install, since the files needed were password protected to keep pirates from installing over pirated copies commonly found online I took the liberty of just getting the required files.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 12:42:04 2008 No.80384 >>80329 Yeah it's fine if you actually HAVE an ISO or a version that will work with their patches...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:23:38 2008 No.80608 >>78187 http://forums.mirrormoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=1242 answer is yes!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:26:57 2008 No.80618 >>80608 Raaaaaaaaaaaaaage

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:32:07 2008 No.80646 He is the king of trolls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:36:03 2008 No.80673 Isn't he just using fucking Nullsoft? The Uta installer uses Nullsoft, and I herd that it was the "framework" of Message's wonderinstaller.

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 13:48:18 2008 No.80730 http://forums.mirrormoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=16992#16992 Here you go /jp/

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:50:58 2008 No.80739 >>80730 Well done

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 13:52:09 2008 No.80745 >>80730 Wait for it.....

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 13:52:19 2008 No.80746 >>80739 Does this make me a trip-fag now? I feel deflowered...

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 13:55:22 2008 No.80763 /r/ people who actually care to post replys supporting me so the thread doesn't get deleted and and we can actually change something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:00:32 2008 No.80790 >>80763 A namefag AND an AZfag? Nowai. :O

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:01:27 2008 No.80798 >>80763 I posted pretty much exactly that in the (now locked) UBW thread, and was attacked by all of Message's fanboys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:02:46 2008 No.80808 >>80763 You will regret asking this of 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:03:31 2008 No.80814 >>80730 One more thing buddy,space that out a little bit.

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 14:07:37 2008 No.80838 >>80814 I assume you meant some paragraphs? Half-assly done, but it makes it a bit easier to read.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:12:04 2008 No.80853 leave Message alone. His work on Tsukihime made this person very happy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:20:07 2008 No.80901 >>80853 Chris Crocker? Is that you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:21:37 2008 No.80907 i think message is a pretty cool guy, eh codes installers and doesn't work on anything

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:27:22 2008 No.80942

>I myself am curious with the progress, but what gives you or us the right to demand an explanation?
>They are doing this for free. The hard work they put in brightens our lives(a little :)) and gives us something to look forward to.
you know how selfish you sound?
cause to me it sounds like you're saying "message is working too slow, and if he cant keep up he should be replaced by someone who can work faster."
>can't you just respect someone's decision to want to keep something a secret? it will come in due time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:30:27 2008 No.80968 >>80942 All of this should be quoted; I didn't realize he used that many lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:34:44 2008 No.80997 I'm sorry but it doesn't take now 3 months to finish one installer... that's just ludicracy. Now lets just stay calm here... and fucking rage this shit up.

>>	iclim4 Tue Feb 26 14:35:03 2008 No.81000 you guys r so mean to message :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:35:34 2008 No.81002 >>81000 failget

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:37:12 2008 No.81008 that's cuz message sucks at his job...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:40:10 2008 No.81020 http://forums.mirrormoon.org/viewtopic.php?p=17001#17001 am i cool anon? i think i won the arguement.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:44:08 2008 No.81042 >>81020 ... huh? you "won" an argument by linking to another argument somewhere else. I fail to see the victory. Perhaps someone could point it out to me?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:45:23 2008 No.81045 >>81042 obviously fails to realize that that post is the same person as that anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:46:54 2008 No.81048 This thread is making me stay up too late. Also, is my bitchy post about responsibility too aggressive?

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:50:04 2008 No.81059

>>81045

this makes a difference how? I still fail to see what the fuck linking to a forum makes a person "win" when... that thread was full of people agreeing and disagreeing. I WIN BECAUSE I SAID THE SAME THING SOMEWHERE ELSE AND PEOPLE THERE AGREED OR DISAGREED WITH ME ALSO.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:51:29 2008 No.81069

>>81020

You basically said the same thing I said on /fate/ a while ago when I had it out with them over TakaJun.

A lot of my dislike for their team is irrational, but the sheer fact that he was going on eroge binges while we got little or no updates on the editting process of UBW instead of actually making sure his team was doing its job was rather frustrating.

I don't, however, blame TakaJun for Message's faggotry, and if what >>77203 said is true, then I have actually gained some respect for him.

Quite simply, Mirror Moon's handling of the UBW route as a whole has been terrible. The editting for the route should have started a bit after TakaJun started into translation so that the wait between the two finishing wouldn't be as long as it was.

The installer is proving stupid at this point, undoubtedly, but there were definitely some ridiculous errors in their process that occurred earlier that they really need to hammer out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:53:00 2008 No.81083 >>81073 No, not a troll. You still don't get it do you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:54:48 2008 No.81089 Currently online: MSN, Alucard, iclim4, idontknoW, Kjoery, Message, TakaJun, trojohn Ha Ha!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:56:07 2008 No.81100 >>81089 incoming bans and shitstorm. I'm calling it.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:58:14 2008 No.81107

Everyone. Get off our backs.

I can tell you that it IS being worked on. We WILL release it. We actually have lives outside of mirror moon, you know. Most of the core staff (me included) are either working full time or doing uni full time.

Bitching and whining will NOT make us release it any faster. It'll just annoy us more. Some people (mainly from 4chan) just bitch, whine and moan.

We are considering initiating a 'no progress report' policy for future patches.

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 14:59:52 2008 No.81115 Okay Who the fuck woke up all the mods?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 14:59:57 2008 No.81112 >We are considering initiating a 'no progress report' policy for future patches. BAWWWWWW chendo. Heaven forbid people expect a little professionalism from a group that tries to comport themselves like professionals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:01:41 2008 No.81124 >>81112 Are you the one doing the work? If they WERENT doing this, you'd be stuck back where you were in the first place, and yet... you have the audacity to whine at people doing things for FREE?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:02:11 2008 No.81127 >>81115 lol thats what i was thinking. $10 bucks on one of those "messages" being the real one in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:02:49 2008 No.81130 >>81124 If they wern't doing the work, the group that's translating F/HA would be doing it.

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 15:02:53 2008 No.81131 >>81124 "And let lose the dogs of war!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:02:58 2008 No.81126 >>81115 Message went back to sleep

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:03:25 2008 No.81133

>>81107
That's fine. No glimmer of hope dangled before us, no despair to be had when Message takes several months to compile an installer that will run on my toaster (when all is needed is to release the translation/simple installer/have someone else compile it if Message is too busy.).

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:03:31 2008 No.81135

This is just dumb. Not telling anyone about the future or progress of the patches is just going to anger more people. What it really seems to be getting down to is that MirrorMoon is doing a poor job on the translation of UBW. I bet if any other group picked up this project they would've had a better leader, done editing during translation, had an installer before testing was even completed, and have a patch out in a orderly fashion along with progress reports to keep the fans up to date. This is not proffesionalism, it's the complete absence of. Most "Proffesional" companies release progress reports or at least news reports about current events going on in there compnay. And using the excuse that "we have other lives" is also just plain stupid. There are a lot of people willing to help out there, and if you "proffesionalism" is getting in the way of letting other people help you... then you don't deserve to do this project. I'm half assessed to pull a team of my freinds together to do the translation ourselves with all this stupid bullshit going on around a single freaking isntaller. The public whats progress, we want news, and we want updates onto the current status of this project.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:04:45 2008 No.81138 Guys, focus your anger on the installer. Heaven's feel is coming along O.K., and will be out faster than the installer will be.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:04:49 2008 No.81139

>>81124

We've already addressed this issue before.

Doing something for free is not a free pass for pats on the back.

I don't excuse free webcomics for being shitty, and I don't excuse groups who try to comport themselves as professionals for saying 'Don't expect us to act professionally except when it suits us'.

Mirror Moon is trying to act like a genuine group of professionals. Which is fine and admirable. But as a result, they have to be prepared to be judged at the same level that professionals are. Just because they're doing it for free doesn't excuse them from criticism, especially when they start acting so whiny because people want exaplanations for stupid shit like this installer business.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:05:37 2008 No.81142 >>81139 Explanations* Damn, it's late.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:05:37 2008 No.81143

Just let them go at their own pace. They aren't obligated to give us anything, but they decided to make a patch anyway. Internet superheroes, the whole staff. Including message, even if he acts like an ass. I hate when people complain about unfinished patches, it just reminds me of the whole Wind-A Breath of Heart fiasco. But that eventually came out anyway. It will be out, just fucking wait for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:06:41 2008 No.81150 > Users browsing this forum: ➈ ➈, Alucard, chendo, Darth_harbl, Kjoery, Message, TakaJun, trojohn Buahahahahahahhahahaha

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:07:13 2008 No.81152 I'm just saying... it don't take no 4 months to make an installer. I'm beginning to think that there is something more serious at fault here, and with no news updates it's kinda hard to tell what's up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:07:28 2008 No.81153 >>81143 Please see >>81139 and >>81130

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:08:27 2008 No.81156 >>81152 Are they getting lawsuited or something? I don't see what could possibly be the problem other than Message being lazy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:09:48 2008 No.81160 It could be something like the text just won't input properly into the program (like what happened with utaw b4 the patch came out) or they are getting asked to stop translation buy Type Moon...

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:11:22 2008 No.81167 >>81160 Taka has specifically stated that they've started on HF's translation, and he even complained about the H-scene. That would be quite the cover-up, if he wasn't actually translating it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:12:46 2008 No.81176 Maybee Message is still stuck trying to get it to install on his toaster... we all know we want some UBW with our toast in the morning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:15:01 2008 No.81188 >>81107 haha, wow. sage can't begin to cover how I feel about this shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:15:26 2008 No.81192 >>81176 I wouldn't mind having some Archer alongside some toast.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:16:04 2008 No.81196

'll try to see this from both sides...
I guess it's annoying for some people because they assume there is no work being done because there is no progress report. Let me assure you that work is being done, and testing is taking progress. It's just that school started for some people, while others have jobs (just like chendo said)
Just be patient.

➈ ➈ wrote:
Three (or four) months is quite a long time to keep us waiting. It's almost unacceptable

We never had any set release date to start with, so there's no "deadline" we have to meet.

By the way, complaining gets nothing done but make the people working on the patch waste more time by replying... With that said, I'm going back to translating more HF

Nooo, TakaJun you were my only hope! I thought there was some sanity in at least your mind!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:16:17 2008 No.81197 UBW = Unlimited Butter Works... yummmmm

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:16:29 2008 No.81198 For all we know, they already finished the installer and they are beta testing right now and will surprise us with a patch in the not too distant future.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:16:46 2008 No.81200 >>81192 Ultimate Butter Works

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:17:10 2008 No.81202 >>81196 And they both logged off ;_;

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:17:10 2008 No.81203 >>81197 >>81200 buttermind

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:17:24 2008 No.81206 >>81196 Hey~ But that means, you know HF is definitely being worked on We've just got to remain optimistic Go, /jp/! Turn to the new day with a sunny smile on your face!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:18:10 2008 No.81212 >>81206 I didn't actually mind TakaJun's progress reports or translation speed. At all. I did mind an installer that's taking 4 months to build.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:19:38 2008 No.81221 >>81212 I SAID TURN TO THE NEW DAY WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE SMILE ON YOUR FACE GOT THAT

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:19:52 2008 No.81223 Attn Death_Harbl, they have answered the statement "we just want to know if the project is still being worked on" with "Yes it is." the politically correct plea for information has failed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:20:37 2008 No.81230 Anyone else notice that despite them 'not having time' to work on the patch, they're perfectly capable of going onto their forums and banning/trolling people who criticize them at a moment's notice?

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:21:00 2008 No.81233

>>81212

I do admit that TakaJun is very competent at translation speed. I can't speak about translating the h-scenes (although I don't think I have quite the disgust for them that he and Ryuusoul seem to), but he does very well with little issue.

My main problem is the fact that they didn't start editing until he was DONE. This meant that that particular leg of the process took an extra chunk of time. And because it's apparently impossible to design the installer without the edits being entirely complete, that added yet MORE time to the project.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:21:07 2008 No.81234

IF I DON'T SEE SOME FUCKING SMILES I'LL KILL YOU ALL I SWEAR TO GOD

I'LL KILL YOU

I'LL KILL YOU

KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU KILL YOU

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:21:35 2008 No.81240 >>81230 Message is the first and most infamous troll of /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:22:21 2008 No.81244 >>81230 Reread >>81196

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:22:38 2008 No.81245 TURN THAT MOTHERFUCKING SMILE UPSIDE-DOWN

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:22:56 2008 No.81242 >>81234 THIS FROWN IS AN EYESORE

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:23:22 2008 No.81249 Can Shiki cut unhappiness?

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:24:14 2008 No.81253

>>81233
I think chendo was working on that. They programmed some new thing where they put the script in, the editors go through and suggest changes to everything and the grand master editor just goes in and picks from a list of the recommendations or leaves it like it is. There was a big post about it a while back.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:25:08 2008 No.81261 Have withstood pain to create many weapons WAITING FOR ONE'S ARRIVAL

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:25:28 2008 No.81264 >>81233 tl;dr they're being idiots?

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 15:25:53 2008 No.81268 >>81223 At least I fucking tried and brought it to their attention that some of the community is not pleased with their work and not just sucking the balls of Message like others.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:27:41 2008 No.81276

>>81253

I saw it, and in theory, sure, it works.

But that doesn't stop them from doing it with the same method that they have now, just without them having to wait until TakaJun is done with the whole route before starting.

TakaJun finishes, say, Day 4. Sends out a .txt or whatever format to the editors and moves on to Day 5. In the meanwhile, the editors go through, make suggestions, resubmit. If TakaJun is feeling like avoiding an h-scene for a bit, he can browse those files, make the suggested changes or explain why he won't, and they'll be on their way.

That process would, in all honesty, probably consume less overall time. It might add a bit of time to the translation process because he'd be going through the revisions, but ultimately we'd probably see a net increase in speed.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:30:59 2008 No.81290

We use a similar system when fansubbing. You have you mini editors take a look at the episode script, write prefered changes to a seperate txt file, and then the master editor looks at the changes and either implements them or not. The same process could've been used here... but instead they decided to wait till the entire translation was done.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:31:20 2008 No.81297

>>81276
Well UBW only took as long as it did because they lost an editor; the guy said he would edit and ended up sucking balls, then they put out that post asking for editors, then they retracted it and TakaJun did the editing himself, and if TakaJun is editing, TakaJun isn't translating.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:34:15 2008 No.81312 >>81306 Horray! Another character forever ruined in my mind. Who is that, anyways?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:34:28 2008 No.81313 >>81196 TakaJun is doing fine. Message is not.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:34:39 2008 No.81315

MirrorMoon fan boys are the worst. They can't get over the fact that there are other groups willing to do this for free and that the public just wants some simple awnsers. We aren't bitching and complaing about them doing the translation, just wondering wth message is doing and the state of the installer...

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:35:19 2008 No.81320

>>81297

The editing started when TJ FINISHED translating. There was no delay there.

I've already discussed my grievances with the editing team in posts in this topic earlier, so I won't go into that again.

So perhaps, in this one specific instance, you may be right. It may have compounded because of the fact that TakaJun wouldn't have been able to do both simultaneously.

But I'm speaking on terms of an overall model. This deadwood could have been rooted out before the editing effort really got underway and a replacement obtained fairly quickly, rather than the entire thing stalling temporarily because they didn't realize that the guy was gonna fag out on them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:35:24 2008 No.81321 >>81313 Yes. Which is why I hoped he'd address the question we were all asking: why's the installer taking so long. Instead he dodged it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:37:12 2008 No.81331 >>81321 Why would you ask that? We already know why it's taking so long: MESSAGE. /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:38:57 2008 No.81335 >>81331 It would be satisfying to hear him say it directly, though. Very satisfying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:39:57 2008 No.81339 >>81331 Also, what I suppose the ultimate and ideal goal of this thread would've been, if it was created two months earlier, was to kick Message out of the release development slot of the team.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:40:09 2008 No.81344

You know who's fault this really is? Bill Gates. No seriously, hear me out. Bill Gates and Microsoft made this pile of aids, ones, and zeros, and put it in a pretty box, then sold it to the world. They called it Vista. Then poor Message, the fool he was, vowed to make his installer work on it! Alas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:42:23 2008 No.81354 >>81344 Bill gates visited Waterloo recently and talked about how he gave money to poor people and stuff. I should technically know more about it, as it's the cover-page article of the newspaper that I technically run.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:44:28 2008 No.81367 >>81364 Because Message wouldn't be failing massively at coding. He'd be too busy being cute and adorable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:45:14 2008 No.81370 >>81364 If Message was a bunny, then he wouldn't be working on the installer. Instead, someone else who isn't a HUEG fucking troll would be and we'd have UBW already.

insanezero !VUNofZD8jM Tue Feb 26 15:45:29 2008 No.81371

>>79766
Instead of trying to reverse engineer the installer, which would be a horrible waste of time and energy for something that would accomplish very little, try doing something that we all know the installer won't be able to do:

Run on Macs.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:46:34 2008 No.81382 >>81376 Zebaniya for the mother fucking win.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:46:59 2008 No.81376 Guys, Type-Moon summoned True Assassin to kill Message.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:47:20 2008 No.81387

>>81360

I am the root of my carrot.
Orange is my body and dirt is my blood.
I have devoured over a thousand orange sticks,

Unknown to farmer's
Nor known to Consumer's

Have withstood manuer to grow many orange sticks,
Yet,these paw's will never hold anything.
So as I pray,Unlimited Bunny Works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:49:28 2008 No.81397 It's all clear now. The installer won't speed up even with the combined NERD RAGE of 4chan. Thank you, bunny.

Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:54:27 2008 No.81414

>>81397
But wait... When I started thinking about bunnies, I started thinking about their speed of reproduction... And then speed reminded me of the installer... Which filled me with rage... But then I saw the bunnies... And I started thinking about their speed of reproduction...

>>	➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ ➈ Tue Feb 26 15:54:33 2008 No.81415 that iclim4 is starting to make me facepalm

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 15:56:59 2008 No.81419 >>81415 Just wait until lolipedofin wakes up.

>>	Darth_harbl !LKHAd6bCZo Tue Feb 26 15:57:47 2008 No.81429 >>81415 I know I'm beginning to wonder if we should drop the nice guy act and just go apeshit and tear the forum to pieces. Then I remembered I actually wanted something to be done rather than get a deleted thread and a banned account/ip.

>>	iclim4 Tue Feb 26 15:59:03 2008 No.81436 I can see that most of the people asking for an explanation are newbies, you guys should atleast do a bit of lurking before getting insecure about the translation being abandoned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 16:01:09 2008 No.81454 I like how iclim4 bothers to read our posts and tries to decipher meaning from them. It shows that he cares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 16:03:08 2008 No.81466 >>81436 Too...much...irony...

Message Tue Feb 26 16:04:44 2008 No.81475

The framework is the same, but there are a lot of game-specific functions and procedures. Especially Fate/stay night has a lot of extra stuff. And not extra fancy stuff, either. Basic stuff. Things an installer needs to be able to do. (Utawarerumono would also have had a lot of extra code if we had supported the CD version, for example.) NSIS is great for making simple installers, but in the end they will not work in a LOT of situations. To build an NSIS installer that WORKS, that is quite a lot more work than people think, especially if you're using it to do things that NSIS wasn't at all designed for.
I thought it was actually kind of funny when someone said about the Utawarerumono installer that "he didn't see anything special, it was just a plain installer." Without realizing it he was actually complimenting me on my work, because if everything goes right, the installer *should* act like a plain, normal one. The only difference being that under the hood it does some very unusual stuff.

And you have to realize that the installer scripts cash in on more than 100kB plaintext. Since NSIS is a scripting language (as opposed to a more low-level programming language), 100kB means a very complicated installer. For Fate/say night English v2.0, there are more than 2200 scriptlines. Since I am the only one in the group who has extensive knowledge of the NSIS language, a code review is not feasible. Thus we are stuck with long and extensive testing procedures (ArchDemon has been putting in some awesome work testing things on all kinds of platforms, give him a hug when you see him). Over the past few weeks we kept finding Vista-related problems, and right now we're having problems with transferring saves. But we're getting there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 16:07:46 2008 No.81489 The real problem here is that 2 or 3 OS will be made before the hf installer is out,forcing Message to start from the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 16:09:46 2008 No.81506 Ok, I am happy with Message's uninformative response which told us that he's basically written about 10-33 kb of text per month.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 16:13:46 2008 No.81534 attn bunny-poster. It's over. Let the thread die a peaceful death with saged bunnies, rather than bumping bunnies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:19:13 2008 No.82928 Posting in a legendary thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 26 22:37:15 2008 No.83017 Lol, Good job darth_harbl

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