/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

So what are your top 5 visual novels, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

Katawa Shoujo
Fate/stay night
Yume Miru Kusuri

I haven't read anything else yet lolz

[Anonymous No.]

Clannad, Umineko, Muv-Luv, Ever17, Symphonic Rain, Hanachirasu, Sharin no Kuni, True Remembrance, Sengoku Rance, Saya no Uta, Cross Channel, G-senjou no Maou, Higurashi, One ~To the Radiant Season~, ef - a fairy tale of the two, Planetarian, Eien no Aselia, Utawarerumono, Demonbane, Kana: Little Sister, Family Project, Kira Kira, Swan Song, Sekien no Inganock, Fate/stay night, Remember11, Narcissu, Daibanchou -Big Bang Age-, Aoishiro, Kikokugai, Quartett, Tuskihime, Suika, Desire, Crescendo, Eve: Burst Error, Nocturnal Illusion

[Anonymous No.]

Clannad
Muramasa
Planetarian
Katawa Shoujo
Yume Miru Kusuri

[wtH !HELLB/V.96 No.]

steins;gate
chaos;head
shukufuku no companella
Ore-tachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai
school days

[wtH !HELLB/V.96 No.]

>>7480959
based off the anime adaption cuz im a 2ndary as HELL fagglet

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko EP3
Umineko EP1
Umineko EP2
I haven't read anything else yet lolz

[Anonymous No.]

>>7480959
>worst vns

[Anonymous No.]

Maiden Rape Assault: Violent Semen Inferno
Suck my Dick or Die
Bible Black
Erotical Nights
Flyable Heart

[Anonymous No.]

Narcissu
Symphonic Rain
Cross Channel
Hoshizora no Memoria
Seiken no Inganock

Because my taste > your taste except moonreaders.

[Anonymous No.]

OMGWTFOTL
Little Busters!
Muv-Luv Extra, Unlimited, AND Alternative
Sengoku Rance
Sekien no Inganock

[Anonymous No.]

vndb.org
Don't be a beta who relies on the opinions of others, read summaries and make a decision what to read yourself.

If you still need someone to hold your hand while you take a shit, then ask /a/ or /v/ for their babby's 1st VNs.

Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

Sengoku Rance is miles ahead of other visual novels

[Anonymous No.]

yumi miru kusuri
sengoku rance
phoenix wright
???
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>7480995
>Don't be a beta

You realise you're not only browsing and posting on /jp/, but actually leaving your calling card of sage'n'report, and calling others beta?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7481016
/jp/ is for omega males.

[Anonymous No.]

Sekien no Inganock
Cross Channel
Swan Song
Sengoku Rance
Phantom of Inferno

[Anonymous No.]

Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete
Furifure
Karutagura
Maji de Watashi ni Koishinasai
Nukenin

[Anonymous No.]

YU-NO
Baldr Sky
Eden
Muramasa
Forest

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know.
There's been a bunch I... enjoyed, I guess, but only one that stood above them enough to call it my favorite.
And if I were to try and be objective, I would be hard pressed to list more than 2-3 VNs that in my opinion deserve being called "good".
I guess I should just try harder on learning Japanese, but I'm not expecting a vast number of untranslated masterpieces out there.
I don't think I can even say I like VNs in general anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

Onii-chan Yamete
Onii-chan Yamete 2
Water Closet

[Anonymous No.]

>>7480936
>>7480953
Atentionwhoring KS devs. Get Out!

Saged and Reported

[Anonymous No.]

>>7481439
KS is one of the greatest VNs of all time.
Of all time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7481439

Isn't KS coming out today?

[Anonymous No.]

Is "Katawa Shoujo" a good vn?

[「ロリあき」 No.]

>>7481731
So good it's been optioned for an anime.

[Anonymous No.]

Saya No Uta
Togainu No Chi
Narcissu
Kikokugai
Planetarian

[Anonymous No.]

>>7480936
1/10.
I can't give better.

[ｱﾉﾝｵﾌﾊﾞﾝｺｸ No.]

no trolling

- princess witches
- shakkin shimai series
- to heart2 series
- duel savior
- baldr force

[Anonymous No.]

1. Baldr Sky
2. Ikusa Megami Zero&Verita
3. Artemis Blue
4. Sharin no Kuni
5. Extravaganza

[Anonymous No.]

Muramasa
Himawari
Romanesque
Sumaga
Baldr Sky Dive 1

[Anonymous No.]

Clannad, Planetarian, Little Busters, Symphonic Rain, Sengoku Rance

[Anonymous No.]

In no particular order (it's pretty hard to actually rank which one is the best...):
Ever 17
Muvluv+Muvluv Alternative
Koihime Musou+Shin Koihime Musou
Fate/stay night
??? (between Eien no Aselia/Planetarian/ef)

[Kudryavka !!wEyYEw5OlKU No.]

Clannad, Cross Channel, SR, Little Busters, Tsukihime.

Probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting.

[Anonymous No.]

Katawa Shoujo
Katawa Shoujo
Katawa Shoujo
Katawa Shoujo
Katawa Shoujo

[Anonymous No.]

Sharin no Kuni
Sekien no Inganock
Demonbane
Muv-Luv (didn't really get hooked until Alternative though)
Ever17, though there are other titles that could fill this place as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>7480971
>Suck my Dick or Die

this looks awesome!

[Anonymous No.]

In no particular order:

Cross+Channel
Sharin no Kuni
Fate/Stay Night
Symphonic Rain
MuvLuv Alternative

Basically what everyone else here has said. Also, Sengoku Rance really isn't a VN.

[Anonymous No.]

Cross Channel
Muv-Luv
Swan Song
Axanael
Chaos;Head

[Anonymous No.]

Clannad
Sharin no Kuni
Ever17
Saya no Uta
G-Senjou no Maou

[Nitori's Faceless !FRIENDgj1s No.]

Tsukihime
Cross Channel
ef
Symphonic Rain
Ever 17
(although hopefully Kara no Shoujo will make the next incarnation of this list)
also glad to see all the Cross Channel fans are in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484809

I wasn't aware that people here even liked it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484831
Only a few vocal faggots dislike it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484842

So is this true of every VN that gets trolled a lot on /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

So much mainstream in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484831
/jp/ often seems to like putting setting over content. Cross+channel is a natural choice for people like that. Though it wasn't terrible, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484861
It can't be helped, not like anyone here can read moon

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484865

Most of these are the highest-rated VNs even in Moonland, and 'mainstream' isn't necessarily 'bad', unlike what elitists will tell you.

[Shameimaru Aya is my girlfriend !3y3mjHUKjI No.]

Off the top of my head, in no particular order...

Clannad
Muv-Luv
Suika
Sekien no Inganock
Planetarian

[Anonymous No.]

>Ever17
Please, the "true ending" was bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7484862
Except the setting wasn't the point of Cross Channel at all, everything was about the characters, the content.

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

Little Busters EX
Kanon
Muv Luv series
Hoshizora no Memoria
Kimi ga Nozomu Eien

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485093
Setting might have been a bad word. Cross+channel was ultimately a shallow game with concepts that seem interesting on the surface.

[Nitori's Faceless !FRIENDgj1s No.]

>>7485113
the heroines are a bit shallow but then again the game was never really about them

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485113
It went more in depth than most eroge out there, it also stayed focused on the one theme it was about and went to great length to develop it.
Honestly I can't believe you call it shallow, you must one huge moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485115
They weren't any more shallow than your standard heroines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485115
How do I put it...take the point about Taichi being a monster. The writing was making him out to be some kind of terrible insane man when it was honestly a bit mild (even though he did in fact have mental problems). All his speeches didn't amount to much either, despite the fact that they weren't written badly and that it was a good idea in general. In other words, lacking substance, but appearing to have on the surface.

[Nitori's Faceless !FRIENDgj1s No.]

>>7485125
I'm sorry that I hold all of them against the high standard of Akiha
I can't help it

[Anonymous No.]

And another threads turns into a C+C is the best game ever/C+C is stupid shitstorm.

[Nitori's Faceless !FRIENDgj1s No.]

>>7485130
read Tower of Friends, the add-on/bonus thing
it illustrates how Taichi can be a different person on any given day rather well

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485130
He killed a dozens people during his childhood and had several psychotic episodes when he lost all control during the game.
In the extra he also make a TOWER OF FRIENDS.

How the fuck is his problem "mild"?

I don't know what you wanted but rather than calling the game shallow I think your reading comprehension is the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485135
I did, it was obvious the entire thing was a cliche. I don't think the writer really has anything of worth to say. The only thing that seemed genuine in the game (not just Tower of Friends) is his idea about people interacting being beautiful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485140
So what VN do you think is interesting then?

[Nitori's Faceless !FRIENDgj1s No.]

>>7485140
oh well, I can't sway you and you're entitled to your opinion
(sorry for derailing into C†C, this is a bad habit of mine)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485147
Lots, f/sn, saya for example. Mind you, i'm not saying it was a bad piece of writing. For most of the part (the middle part) it was well done. It's just that it really wasn't more than a "good piece of writing". It lacked something.

>>7485148
I think a discussion should be about sharing ideas rather than persuasion, so I'm just glad you kept things polite. And this thread isn't a good one anyways so I can't really consider this a "derailment".

[Anonymous No.]

The fucking question
Only and only this, It's the best visual novel of the century.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485158
>f/sn, saya
Saya was entertaining but shallow.
FSN had a severe problem in the focus of its thematic and developed it really haphazardly at times, especially in Fate and HF.

I personally thought these 2 lacked the something Cross Channel had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485164
Get out mugen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485172
But Saya wasn't really supposed to be deep, so judging it by that would be silly.
Regarding FSN, i agree wholeheartedly.

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>>7485130

Holy shit you're a total moron. C+C has a lot of problems but Taichi's character is not one of them.

>>7485172
>FSN had a severe problem in the focus of its thematic and developed it really haphazardly at times, especially in Fate and HF.

Er, UBW is easily the most shallow part of the entire game, themewise... I'm thinking you're one of those people who just jack off to Archer and miss the point of the game entirely?

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>>7485172
I found Saya to be one of the least shallow VNs. Well, Kouji's part was a waste of time, I suppose. Otherwise Saya had substance, it had a purpose and it was compelling. Being well-written also helps.

I agree with f/sn being clumsy. Nasu does seem to have that problem. Seems to have a hard time clearly saying what it is he tries to say, but I think it was only a real problem in the Fate route. Not sure if I agree that HF was haphazard, it seemed to follow logically after UBW. As far as themes go though it was certainly well developed.

I think the only thing that C+C had that f/sn lacked was compactness. Everything flows well after the boring start in C+C. Not a lot of wasted words in the parts that actually mattered. Otherwise I think the writer was writing about things he didn't know much about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485199
>Er, UBW is easily the most shallow part of the entire game, themewise... I'm thinking you're one of those people who just jack off to Archer and miss the point of the game entirely?

Not really. And I do get the game.
But the second part after the horrible Caster arc and if you don't count the out of nowhere shit happening by the end is more focused than the rest of the game.
The Shirou vs Archer fight basically summarize the entire thematic and you could say this is where you really see the essence of Shirou, who is the quintessence of FSN.

HF had the potential to be far more interesting but it didn't realize it, that's where the "haphazardly" come from.
It just felt really clumsy, like Nasu had something awesome in his head but didn't manage to convey it properly. A lot of things felt unnatural and the whole route felt unfocused, like you were watching everything through a clouded lens.

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>>7485213
>Not a lot of wasted words in the parts that actually mattered.

Sure, but then you get things like Kiri's mini-route.

>Otherwise I think the writer was writing about things he didn't know much about.

You're referring to the quantum physics bits, right? Yeah, I agree there, it wasn't even necessary. 'Magic' would have made just as much sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485213
>I found Saya to be one of the least shallow VNs
You must be one of the only person who think that

[Anonymous No.]

ITT babbies arguing over their first VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485231
I doubt it. Some things are just good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485234

Because that means they're bad, right? Again, these are all VERY highly rated in Moonland.

Just because we haven't played your Super Obscure So Edgy Guys Japanese Only game doesn't mean we have any less right to discuss than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485251
>Again, these are all VERY highly rated in Moonland.
So? They are still babby's first VN there too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485234
it's like watching your first anime naruto and saying you have the right to discuss with other leet people like us

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485213
Cross Channel was one of the most impactful eroge I played so I'm a bit of a white knight over it.
I thought Romeo really managed to convey what he managed to convey properly which is pretty rare in an eroge.

>>7485244
Most people think Saya is good.
Doesn't mean they don't think it's shallow, it is.
It's like a good movie.
It entertain you, you spend a few great hours with it but it's not something that will make you think.
And it's okay, there is nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485229
>You're referring to the quantum physics bits, right?
No, I'm talking about the things Taichi said/did. As I said earlier, I think the only genuine thing in the game is the idea of people interacting being beautiful (which really was given about 2 minutes of real screentime, that being the few lines Taichi thought when he saw Kiri/Miki in the pool). The rest, all the insanity and the killing and period-licking seem to me to be put there based on cliched ideas.

Of course, the quantum physics was terrible too, but I can ignore things like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485264
>The rest, all the insanity and the killing and period-licking seem to me to be put there based on cliched ideas.

Cross+Channel is a 2003 game. Just saying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485264
>is the idea of people interacting being beautiful (which really was given about 2 minutes of real screentime

Oh wow.
The theme of people interacting and the beauty of it was a constant in the game from the beginning to the end, how the fuck could you have missed it?
I reiterate about your lack of reading comprehension being the problem.
Reread it again or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485276

He probably ctrl+skipped through all the parts he didn't like. I bet the first thing he did after 'beating' the game was to go on /jp/ and complain about how it didn't live up to expectations, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485276
Real screentime, the rest seemed to be dancing around the issue. I'm not sure how to put it really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485281
You are a retard, seriously

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485281

IT'S CALLED SUBTLETY YOU ASS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485288
Not really, no. To be fair I suppose i'd have to reread the game to argue this properly, so I probably shouldn't try. In any case, my argument stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485292
>In any case, my argument stands.

No it doesn't. You can't even properly articulate what it is you want to complain about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485296
Remove the part about there being 2 minutes of screentime and my argument stands...

[Anonymous No.]

Reika Bitch Training
Suck my Dick or Die
Subarashiki Hibi
Water Closet
Katawa Shoujo

[Anonymous No.]

Cross Channel was mostly pretty decent, but the ending was utter bullshit and totally ruined the experience for me. They could have done so much more with it.

Kind of a common trend in VNs, now that I think about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485307

But... but the ending was the entire point!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485273
Incomplete knowledge then, assuming they weren't that cliche in 2003. I don't think he knew what he was talking about.

I could be wrong of course, but that's the impression I got.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7485322
>I don't think he knew what he was talking about.

...What is there to 'know' about homicidal mania? It's fairly common (if admittedly not completely accurate, but artistic license) knowledge that yes, there are people out there as crazy as Taichi, and yes, while not murdering people they generally come off as pretty normal no matter how fucked up they are inside.

I don't think YOU know what you're talking about.