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Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:29:47 2011 No.7436971 [Reply] [Original]

So can I just start a new file? This is just dragging on forever, I'm on my 3rd day of 3-4 hours sleep here, goddamn. Is there going to be some major event to help me, because if not, I'm seriously thinking about chalking this up as a fail first playthrough and starting again. Without too much spoilers, any hints on how to prevent Dragon Army? Or do they come in any route? Because what about Demon King?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:33:47 2011 No.7436996 The Demon King only appears if you fuck up in a few very specific ways. Just keep fighting it out, because eventually you do get help. Can't remember when it happens though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:33:47 2011 No.7436997 they don't recover. The more you fight the more you win. fight more. Also you failed pretty hard that game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:35:47 2011 No.7437004 Why did you vassal Ashikaga? Vassaling anyone is a pretty bad idea (except for tenshi sect if you want Seigan and Genri) What commanders do you have?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:36:47 2011 No.7437010 >>7437004 Vassaling the ninjas prevents them from coming back and taking it, usually at a really shitty time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:37:47 2011 No.7437017 >>7437010 Can't you stop that by having Suzume in your final battle with them? I know there's some second game only options that stop it too.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:38:47 2011 No.7437019

>>7436971
You can start a new file if you want. No one stopping you. But if you last long enough while protecting Owari, the game auto-wins all those territories back. The chances of you being strong enough to defeat the DA, however, is still very low after the fact because you haven't obtained the high tier commanders it seems.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:38:47 2011 No.7437021

>>7436997
Haha yea I figured, I lost all the other countries to Demon Army, even Miko Institute, so I prob lost a whole bunch of girls and events.
>they don't recover
That's what's keeping me playing, but they still haven't conquered the Raccoon Dog family, the Hanny family, or Takuga family. If they take over those, won't they increase their troops? GODDAMN I'M IN AN ENDLESS RECURSION OF TIME

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:41:47 2011 No.7437029

Protip: conquering Iga and Asakura very early isn't a good thing.
Protip2: conquering Tenshi and not vassaling them by waiting it out until after Honnouji is also a recipe for trouble.
Protip3: not getting Senhime, Natori, the Mouri maids, or declaring war on both Hojo and Uesugi at the same time isn't going to help you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:42:47 2011 No.7437033 Just start over. If you didn't use it, I recommend you follow the "three moves in thirteen turns" guide. Also, what troops do you have?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:42:47 2011 No.7437034 What's so great about Senhime? I always get Mouri Teru instead.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:46:47 2011 No.7437041

>>7437019
>the game auto-wins all those territories back.

This, so you can keep fighting.
Alternatively, you can restart and play much more efficiently, storming everywhere like a baka gaijin you are. Here is the sample order:
Hara > Ashikaga > Miko > Tokugawa > Imagawa > Uesugi-Houjou(at the same time) > take Tenshin biggest province so you can declare war on Akashi, don't touch the small > Akashi-Tanegashima(war on both, only capture Tanegashima since Akashi has a gourd, clear Senhime with Akashi auto lose) > war on Mouri (do their challenge and capture Kiku) > Takuga > Uncurse Mouri > Rush Takeda > > > > Honnoji > > > > Finish Mouri and Akashi

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:46:47 2011 No.7437042 >>7437034 I get both.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:47:47 2011 No.7437044
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>>7437004
I learned vassaling sucks after Ashikaga, I saw the "make enemy surrender" option, I thought hurrdurrr let's try that, and learned the hard way that it sucks.

>if you want Seigan
Fuck yea I'm vassaling Tenshi next time

I don't know who's a High Tier commander, so I probably don't have any worth mentioning. My newest was Hakkin Dasan, and Kou just entered. Here's my troops at this moment. Man I miss those times I had around 20k g

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:48:47 2011 No.7437052 >>7437021 I don't think they ever attack the raccoon dogs or hannies. Not sure about that though. I definitely remember them killing Takuga in one of my playthroughs, not sure why you still have them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:48:47 2011 No.7437055 >>7436971 Use a trainer.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:51:47 2011 No.7437062

>>7437041
>Akashi-Tanegashima(war on both, only capture Tanegashima since Akashi has a gourd, clear Senhime with Akashi auto lose)
If you're fast enough, you don't need to declare war on both Tanegashima and Akashi.

Not conquering Tenshi provinces can give you this speed. Doing a quick assault on Tanegashima actually prevents Mouri from conquering Akashi.

I also do the reverse. I normally attack Mouri before I ever go after Uesugi and Houjo. It's easier to fight Houjo and Uesugi when I have the maid army.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:51:47 2011 No.7437063 >>7437044 You have quite a few generic commanders, they aren't usually worth using unless they have 7+ in stats because you can normally get a full roster of characters. Also, Hakkin Dasan is very bad. Don't use him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:53:47 2011 No.7437067 >>7437044 Fuck, man, where are your reinforcements from Leazus and Zeth?! Where is Kenshin?!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:53:47 2011 No.7437068 >>7437052 they only take over the gourd countries + takuga and mikos.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:54:47 2011 No.7437070 It's like I'm in /a/.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:54:47 2011 No.7437073

>>7437029
Tenshi declared on me for the fucking gourds, and Iga declared on me WHILE I was tring to war back to Tenshi, goddamn everyone hated me this game.

>>7437041
copy pasted the order, in case I do tire and start over. I felt bad warring with Tokugawa, they were the nice ones that didn't attack me ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:55:47 2011 No.7437076 >>7437070 >It's like I'm in /jp/ circa 2008 ftfy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:57:47 2011 No.7437082 >>7437044 Hakkin Dassan is shit. He has second lowest internal attack stat (right after peasants).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:57:47 2011 No.7437083 The game will only auto-capture the territories you've lost (and then some) if you are able to push through to Senkan Nagato. Otherwise, you're fucked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:58:47 2011 No.7437086 >>7437073 Warring against Tenshi makes Iga try and fight you. That's why invading Tenshi is something you should do your best to not doing.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:58:47 2011 No.7437087

Once you get Kenshin, the game is easy.
To make it even easier, get Uruza (second reinforcement from Zeth) and give her accurate shots instead of remove staus 1. Most of your enemies won't even be able to move in battles with these two, making them sitting ducks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 14:59:47 2011 No.7437089 >>7437083 can confirm this is not true

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:00:47 2011 No.7437092 >>7437082 I always killed that fucker. Quite full of himself for an abomination of nature.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:01:47 2011 No.7437098 Hakkin Dasan is a fucking legend. He broke the hymen of the most beautiful princess in the nation.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:01:47 2011 No.7437099

>>7437076
>>7437070
Sorry guys, I did state on the OP that this was my first playthrough, I'm late to the party>>7437052
>>7437063
Some of the captured had pretty 8 stats in searching or Construction, so I went with them. I realized too late they all suck, which is why there's two empty spots, I was starting to sell troops and dismiss.

>>7437067
One of my troops is a reinforcement, from somewhere, I don't know, it came by itself. I have fuck all idea onm who or how to get Kenshin

>Also, Hakkin Dasan is very bad. Don't use him.
for fucks sake, I knew I shouldve killed him.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:03:47 2011 No.7437102

I never finished the last route, the one with that girl that wants a baby.

I also never beat the super boss snake thing.

Does anyone know if that new game is getting a translation? the one in space that everyone was talking about. That is an alicesoft game right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:04:47 2011 No.7437103 >>7437004 They're not great commanders either. >>7437010 No. Leave Iga the fuck alone. Don't let them declare war on you. >>7437067 This. Get all the damn reinforcements.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:04:47 2011 No.7437104

>>7437073
>they were the nice ones that didn't attack me ;_;

Think like Rance. In other words, think with your cock, let it feast on pure maidens! War all day every day. Then you will succeed in this game.

You know what sin Tokugawa committed? They imprisoned Senhime, those dogs! So they must be conquered, Sinhime must be saved, added into your harem and tenderly loved.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:05:47 2011 No.7437105 Equip the battle permits if you didn't yet, they make things much easier.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:05:47 2011 No.7437107

Oh right, I forgot to ask in the OP. Is there nay way to have Musketeers have more than one action? I like the cube guy because he has two, or is this just how musketeers are? Because loli musketeer would be fucking dangerous if she can attack more than once

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:05:47 2011 No.7437108
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This is the party I managed to kill Orochi with. Ran route lets you dick around as much as you want once you've conquered all of JAPAN, and with 5 action fans it's pretty easy to develop your characters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:06:47 2011 No.7437109 >>7437107 Get Working Bee, which is found at Texas. Or hope for an Action Textbook2 drop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:07:47 2011 No.7437110 >>7437107 give her the Working Bee, you can find it with a search in Asakura's territory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:07:47 2011 No.7437111 >>7437107 You can use Action Textbook 2, which is pretty rare. You could make her equip the item that does that, but it halves her troops.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:08:47 2011 No.7437115

>>7437103
>No. Leave Iga the fuck alone. Don't let them declare war on you.
You can conquer them after Honnouji in one turn to preempt DA takeovers. Same with Takeda in 3 turn blitz. Before that, people should concentrate on taking over other gourd houses and recruiting all their unique commanders.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:09:47 2011 No.7437117 >>7437108 I killed Orochi in True History. If you know what to do, True History can last until forever.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:10:47 2011 No.7437119

>>7437105
I do have the permits, bu i barely have anyone over 1000, and the ones I do have over 1000 I use to try and defend my territories

>>7437052
>I definitely remember them killing Takuga in one of my playthroughs, not sure why you still have them.

Takuga was behind Mouri, and there was a period after I beat Tenshi and Iga where I was going through dungeons and such because Demon Xavier decided to kidnap Kou and have me fight him and I was hopelessly weak. I lost several score points having Alice re do my battles

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:11:47 2011 No.7437125 File: 69 KB, 552x258, food.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437107 Get Dousan, she can refill action points at troop level which means that you can basically do 5x Miko Storm 2, 5x white destruction beam, 5x Accurate shots etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:12:47 2011 No.7437129 >>7437125 Getting Dousan is a bit difficult for beginners.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:12:47 2011 No.7437132 >>7437108 >troops having only one guy in them What in the fuck? Doesn't any attack just annihilate them?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:12:47 2011 No.7437135 >>7437115 Note Takeda gives 15 damn Satisfaction points. I prefer conquering them before Honnouji. OP can do whatever the fuck he wants though.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:13:47 2011 No.7437139

>>7437117
I would be interested in learning how. I did it on true history too, because I thought having Kentarou was vital. But eventually I realized it was too much trouble holding back the demon army and let them have almost all my territories while I leveled up everyone.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:14:47 2011 No.7437142

>>7437102
>Does anyone know if that new game is getting a translation? the one in space that everyone was talking about. That is an alicesoft game right?

It tanked in terms of gameplay.
Protag is boring, no good routes for the best girls.
Don't expect anyone picking it up, too much work for too little gain.

Better learn Japanese if you really want to read it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:14:47 2011 No.7437146 >>7437125 Who the fuck is Dousan? I haven't seen her at all this playthrough. And who is this Kenshin everyone says to get? How do I do this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:15:47 2011 No.7437151 >>7437132 He's obviously not doing any troop battles.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:16:47 2011 No.7437153 >>7437142 :( >>7437146 I think you get her by scouting all those 3 guys that everyone talks about in the beginning. I don't remember.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:17:47 2011 No.7437155 >>7437129 I guess, but if you get her everything gets so easy.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:17:47 2011 No.7437158
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>>7437139
wipe the Demon Army out, and use that one event in Morocco every turn so you don't get a game over. also, destroying the demon army in the true route is the only way to fight Madou's elephant form.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:17:47 2011 No.7437159 >>7437129 Recruiting 3 guys from 1 territory and spending a satisfaction bonus is hard?

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:18:47 2011 No.7437161

>>7437135
By the time you get all the other houses, you'd have obtained more satisfaction points that you'll need for the essentials from the bonuses. The dungeon in Kai is just an easy way out. You don't really need it and taking over Takeda is just a waste of a gourd house when the other gourd houses provide you with more unique generals and can fill your roster up very quickly before Honnouji.

But yeah, OP has his own choice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:18:47 2011 No.7437162 >>7437142 >Not moaning and bitching about how bad it was. Wow, I am amazed. Thank you, sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:20:47 2011 No.7437167 >>7437161 Takeda's 15 points help obtain a fourth fan earlier. Maybe I have fucked up priorities. I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:20:47 2011 No.7437171 >>7437146 OK, seems like somebody hasn't seen these links: Wiki with shitloads of info: http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance General Ranceverse info: http://sites.google.com/site/bbshut/home/rance-data/

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:21:47 2011 No.7437172

>>7437158
Actually, there's another way without that Morocco event.

Just do NOT invade South Africa or Morocco. The final end-game will not start.

I managed to do every subquest including attacking One-Eyed, Asakura and beating Orochi as well as finishing all the dungeons by doing this.

Since DA gets weaker as time passes, this is actually not that difficult of a proposal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:21:47 2011 No.7437173 >>7437158 I think I've never gotten that event which delays the game over, even after completely wiping them out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 15:23:47 2011 No.7437177 >>7437173 It's an option that appears only when you wait a bit long enough just before the Ishijijii goes big enough to destroy JAPAN.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:28:47 2011 No.7437378 Wait before I let this thread die, what does Status Up do? I can't find it on the wikia Or should I just give her troops?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:29:47 2011 No.7437383 File: 121 KB, 800x600, hanny.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm dreading fighting the demon army with pottery.

>>	Stupei, Ace Defective !1HOs/D5o7M Sat Jun 4 16:31:47 2011 No.7437388 >>7437041 I need to restart my game and follow this, I always end up like OP (because I suck). >>7437383 What the fuck son

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:34:47 2011 No.7437405 >>7437378 I don't get what you're saying. >>7437033 The thirteen-turn guide in the Wiki sucks. This is superior: http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/936089-sengoku-rance/faqs/60751#section35

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:35:47 2011 No.7437406 >>7437378 Improves stats. If it's over 7 though it'll increase the national power cost. Stats are usually more important than number of troops once you get over 1000 or so troops.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:35:47 2011 No.7437408 >>7437378 Wait, now I get it. If you click Status Up, you can choose to raise either ATK, DEF, INT, or SPD by 1.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:36:47 2011 No.7437414 >>7437378 Who is the commander?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:36:47 2011 No.7437416 File: 144 KB, 806x652, hanny roll by takajun.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437383 Playing as hanny is how true /jp/sies roll.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:37:47 2011 No.7437422 >>7437406 >Stats are usually more important than number of troops once you get over 1000 or so troops. That's 1999 troops.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:38:47 2011 No.7437426 >>7437416 Tell me how that's accomplished.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:38:47 2011 No.7437428 >>7437416 >Turn 85 How the hell?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:40:47 2011 No.7437438 >>7437416 What the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:42:47 2011 No.7437446 File: 128 KB, 1440x810, 1306169002907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] People say not to take over Tenshi sect, but isn't it unavoidable? Otherwise you have to keep wasting turns on stopping riots.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:45:47 2011 No.7437454 >>7437446 All you need to do is send one unit to the battle, peasants are easy to beat. Sometimes the riot event doesn't happen, too. Losing national power if you can't defend isn't the end of the world, either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:46:47 2011 No.7437459 >>7437446 You don't waste turns, you just let them riot. Only 1 province can riot per turn and you can beat that peasant rabble with any 1 unit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:47:47 2011 No.7437463 File: 113 KB, 800x600, stats.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437378 >>7437378 Wow, forgot the pic and was browsing /jp/, I meant this. What does Status Up do?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:49:47 2011 No.7437468 >>7437463 Obviously increases stats...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:49:47 2011 No.7437469 >>7437463 We answered that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:50:47 2011 No.7437471 >>7437416 Fucking LOL Hanny master race

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:51:47 2011 No.7437475 DON'T MAKE ME REINSTALL THIS YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:53:47 2011 No.7437481 Must....play this....again....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:53:47 2011 No.7437482 >>7437469 >>7437468 Alright, now this doesn't apply to loli musketeer, but what does the INT stat do anyways? Is that for the monks?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:54:47 2011 No.7437486 File: 121 KB, 800x600, ALCG0103.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Those last two events. I'll get them, then never play again. I don't care about the generic commanders at the bottom. Must... complete...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:54:47 2011 No.7437488 >>7437426 I would like to know too. I can't even beat FFA as one of really strong houses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:55:47 2011 No.7437491 >>7437482 Magic attack and defense. I believe it applies for monks, mikos and mages.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:55:47 2011 No.7437492 >>7437482 http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Parameters

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:55:47 2011 No.7437494 >>7437482 Increases magic damage/resist, also increases the percentage defence that footsoldiers get.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:59:47 2011 No.7437499 >>7437482 It's also used by Tacticians. Each INT equals 1 initial buff. And their buffs give +5% per INT. Also affects any healing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 16:59:47 2011 No.7437503 File: 194 KB, 800x600, ALCG0003.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437475 >he uninstalled Rance

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:00:47 2011 No.7437505
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>>7437486
I wonder if I've missed out on anything important. Hard to know how many of these events are worth watching, and I don't feel like completing all of them to make sure I've seen everything.

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:03:47 2011 No.7437514
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>>7437488
Have you tried the youkai army? Its basically easy mode, their only real weakness is having shitty starting negotiation so its hard to recruit new units. But who needs that when Omachi can conquer Japan on her own.

Doing that should give you enough experience to play as a more difficult house without trouble. Maybe not Hanny or Hara though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:03:47 2011 No.7437516 >>7437499 So Ai's buffs give 40% boosts. Whereas Akechi gives a pathetic 20% boost. It's not in the Wiki since none of editors can read contents on foreign sites.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:05:47 2011 No.7437520 File: 71 KB, 800x600, ALCG0096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7437505 >Fewest turns to clear game (1)

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:06:47 2011 No.7437524
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OH GODDAMMIT MAN I WAS TRYING TO GO TO TAKUGA MYSELF yea fuck this, I'm restarting.

And I will attack everyone next game. Except Tenshi/Iga, seems everyone is saying not to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:06:47 2011 No.7437526 >>7437514 I did, got through most houses without much trouble, but the demon army got way too strong and were more or less impossible to beat by the time I encountered them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:06:47 2011 No.7437528 >>7437524 The Takuga units are actually not that good.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:07:47 2011 No.7437529 >>7437505 I never gave a damn about the Clear Game Report or points. Just want to enjoy my damn game. And 130 points get me everything I want.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:08:47 2011 No.7437535 >>7437526 The trick is to use mansions everywhere, with maybe a hospital or two. If you keep fighting, they don't heal their units very fast so they run out of things to fight you with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:08:47 2011 No.7437542 >>7437520 Yeah, that was when I realized that I could potentially waste weeks doing point runs and decided to just do a point run with cheats and get it over with.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:09:47 2011 No.7437547 >>7437524 Wrong. You should attack Tenshi. You only vassal them when you want to character clear Seigan and Genri. They're not worth getting otherwise. But leave Iga and Akashi the fuck alone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:10:47 2011 No.7437552 File: 125 KB, 800x600, ALCG0090.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCK YOU GOEMON

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:11:47 2011 No.7437557 >>7437552 I always reset until I capture or kill him. Every time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 17:11:47 2011 No.7437558 >>7437535 To me it just seems like they're constantly growing stronger, even though I have mansions everywhere and I'm getting an insane amount of troops every turn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:01:47 2011 No.7438192 >>7437558 The important thing is that you conquer new areas one by one, which is largely a function of your best captain team.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:50:47 2011 No.7438348 File: 35 KB, 300x300, Sengoku_Rance_-_Akashi_Kazemaru.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there any benefit to not doing the Mustache event and actually recruiting Akashi Kazemaru?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:52:47 2011 No.7438354 not fucking or getting a blow job for the girl Can't recall

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:53:47 2011 No.7438357 Yes, you can't get the One Eye house without him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 20:58:47 2011 No.7438374 >>7438357 How does that work out?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:02:47 2011 No.7438388 Fuck. Im going to have to start playing this again, stil have things I never did. never did one of the IF routes, never got some of the house bonuses, and never ever attacked the youkai house. DAMN YOU /jp/

Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:05:47 2011 No.7438393

>>7438374
You must recruit Kazemaru and find his Nue, then let her join his army in order to catch the cyclops girl with the giant pencil. Apparently the Nue's weapon is what's used to bind her even though you never see her nor is she needed in the actual fight. She just has to be part of Kazemaru's army.

Why? Beats the fuck out of me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 4 21:12:47 2011 No.7438415 >>7438388 good luck lol.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:51:47 2011 No.7440122 >>7438348 Wait, why shouldn't I attack Akashi? They just seemed like this weak litttle nobody that got raped by Mouri

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 04:54:47 2011 No.7440128 >>7440122 I like having that kid ruler in my army. A decent unit. Also, his look is cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:03:47 2011 No.7440143 >>7440128 > A decent unit. He's really not. His only use is the Dokunganryuu stuff. There are dozens of better warrior units out there, and that's one of the more useless classes to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:11:47 2011 No.7440162 >>7440122 You shouldn't attack Akashi or Iga since they both have a gourd. Once 5 gourds have opened, the honnouji event happens and the countdown for the demon army starts. You want to capture as much as possible before then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:17:47 2011 No.7440170 File: 98 KB, 800x600, stealinmywomenz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440162 Ah gotcha Also do I give Aki back to Hara? I kinda wanna keep my womenz

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:24:47 2011 No.7440179 >>7440170 He will kill her and Rance will kill him in response. You will get his niece in his place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:24:47 2011 No.7440182 >>7440170 If you want to clear Hara, yes. I wouldn't want to do it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:34:47 2011 No.7440210 File: 106 KB, 800x600, LOLIMUSKETEER.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] LOLI MUSKETEER DIED! well this is a redo if I ever saw one

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:35:47 2011 No.7440211 I was always wondering, is it possible by any chance or xx playthrough to get Shimazus?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:36:47 2011 No.7440212 >>7440179 Wow that's pretty shitty. I didn't give her back. He still leveled up. Everyone's happy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:44:47 2011 No.7440225 >>7440211 Do it in Ran route

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:45:47 2011 No.7440228 Any tips for the Kenshin route /jp/?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:47:47 2011 No.7440234
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I am so tired of this Demon Army and this nigger's bullshit. I think this is the part where I get a break and get some of my territories back, liek some have mentioned earlier today

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:51:47 2011 No.7440238 >>7440210 Where is your foot soldier?

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 05:53:47 2011 No.7440242

>>7440228
It's been a while since I played Kenshin route but I recall it being largely a cakewalk. You can optimize things by leaving specific territories unconquered before you enter the path, for easy fights afterwards, but it's not really necessary. The random dudes and a few leftovers should be enough.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:05:47 2011 No.7440252
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>that feel when you load up an old save after not playing for a long time and don't remember anything

pic related, about to enter isoroku route for first time...I think I have a good squad though, so it shouldn't take long to get into the swing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:08:47 2011 No.7440258 >>7440238 Taking it easy while I use attack units, in case Demon Army wants to attack during their turn And no, I didn't get back my territorries, I get Soul Binder turning people to zombies instead

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:29:47 2011 No.7440280 It's depressing that a merely above average game is hyped to hell and back just because it's good for a porn game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:42:47 2011 No.7440297 >>7440280 What do you want people to do? Hype shit eroge with shitty gameplay?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:44:47 2011 No.7440301 >>7440280 I don't think anyone said Sengoku Rance is an amazing masterpiece of the japanese videogame scene. It's a good gameplay eroge and that's what people play it for.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:44:47 2011 No.7440302 File: 77 KB, 800x600, FUCKINGFINALLY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] FUCKING FINALLY. Now I really will continue this playthrough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:45:47 2011 No.7440306 File: 132 KB, 800x600, JUSTICE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Goddamn look at all this sweet sweet land

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:45:47 2011 No.7440308 >>7440297 Been there, done that. Daiteikoku

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:49:47 2011 No.7440313 >>7440143 I like him. If you have the basic skill books and you're not going to use it on anyone else, you can easily get him to 8 in every stat, which is pretty sweet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 06:59:47 2011 No.7440325 >>7440313 And the kicker if you do that? He's still just a mediocre warrior unit at best. Even after wasting tons of items and at least a couple turns on him, there are still multiple units that are better than him by default.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:01:47 2011 No.7440328

>>7440252
I actually really like Komatsu. If you give her that item which increases her affection points every turn, you can easily max her stats after a while, while she's also getting a really high troop count due to her ability. Though her cost will get pretty high.

Maybe I'm wasting too much effort improving an unit which isn't that good in the first place, but she's also really cute, so whenever I get her, I can't help wanting to use her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:02:47 2011 No.7440330 >>7440313 That's the thing, though, if you're playing somewhat sensibly you _don't_ have a ton of basic skill books to spare.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:04:47 2011 No.7440333 >>7440330 What do you prefer spending them on? Speed books tend to be hard to get by, but I nearly always have too many attack and defense books.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:16:47 2011 No.7440361 >>7440306 I can't beat the Demon Army after that...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:20:47 2011 No.7440370 >>7440361 Geez, you sure are helpless~

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:31:47 2011 No.7440388 >>7440328 I know right! She is cute, that is why I love her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:32:47 2011 No.7440389 File: 140 KB, 800x600, I'm fucking helpless.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My second playthrough. The Mouri army is always fucking me up with their 1000 to 2000 men units while I have only about 500.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:32:47 2011 No.7440390 File: 115 KB, 500x708, Komatsu-tan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440328 Mah nigga. This girl doesn't get enough love around here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:43:47 2011 No.7440400 >>7440389 Oh my lord. You should.....find a different game...

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:56:47 2011 No.7440408 File: 96 KB, 463x347, play him off.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440389

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 07:58:47 2011 No.7440410 How in damnation do I get me some prisoners? This is getting ridiculous, it seems it's just by chance that I can capture enemy soldiers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:02:47 2011 No.7440412 >>7440410 Give the man a medal for figuring it out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:04:47 2011 No.7440415 >>7440389 Wait, how did you get that territory which is not adjacent to any of your territories?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:07:47 2011 No.7440417 >>7440415 Figuring that out may take all of your cunning. And that's really sad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:12:47 2011 No.7440423 File: 54 KB, 248x274, 1272843040424.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440415 >>7440417 XD

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:21:47 2011 No.7440433 >>7440306 Enjoy your below average army

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:22:47 2011 No.7440438 I'm following the guide to get my 3rd action fan in 13 turns, but for some reason Ashikage won't declare war on me after turn 3. I'm certain he did it in my first playthrough, so what's the deal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:25:47 2011 No.7440445 >>7440438 I think there's some randomness to which turn the events start at, sometimes it takes a turn or two more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:26:47 2011 No.7440447 >>7440445 Ah, no biggie then. 15 turns is fast enough too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:31:47 2011 No.7440460 File: 120 KB, 800x600, Rance - Nobunagas letter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 08:34:47 2011 No.7440465 >>7440400 >>7440408 >>7440415 I guess I'll try again from the start. >>7440389

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:00:47 2011 No.7440657

I'm on Isoroku 5-stars; is at war with everyone except one-eyed. I'm building up captains & economy. What should I do?

1) Engaging Mouri cause their troops have been building up too high

2) Attack masamune to grab more land and sat. Will probably take 10-20 turns as they are ridiculously strong also. This will of course give mouri time to increase in size eve further and since I dont have hibachi I'd also lose out a +5 stat.

3) Take advantage of the peace and continue with improving captains & economy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:01:47 2011 No.7440660 File: 1.60 MB, 1225x600, fuck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440657 Forgot my pic

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:03:47 2011 No.7440667 >>7440657 >is at war with everyone >Take advantage of the peace Huh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:04:47 2011 No.7440671 >>7440657 >showing AI moves nub

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:13:47 2011 No.7440686

>>7440667
Tanegashima and Akashi are giving me wins and keeping the Mouris away. I consider milking them a part of the "peace". Sorry if I werent clear
>>7440671
I reload every time there's an "increase max size" on important captains and whenever a captain I want to capture go to a country other then the ones I'm fighting against. Showing AI move has its use.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:21:47 2011 No.7440706

>>7440686
Well, you seem much more experienced than me, but my general experience is that it never pays off to stagnate. There aren't enough advantages to peace, compared to the risks of not expanding quickly enough.

I think maybe I'd try to take on Masamune, since they will probably be hard to handle after the Mouri, when you'll be bordering the demon army, and then try to take Akashi just as you're about to finish off Masamune and they're hopefully too weak to give you trouble in combination with Mouri.

Unless you're not planning to get any of the generals from Masamune, in which case it seems like too much effort for too little gain in my opinion.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:21:47 2011 No.7440707
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Jesus christ I can't beat these guys, what do I do? These are probably my best troops, Rance has Sill fucking frozen from Miki, so no SIll Heal, and I've gone through so many loads and I always lose, this fight I just gave in and used as much Textbooks as I could on these guys, and Yuzuhara at least survived the enemy musketeer, even if it's by only 9 hp

WHAT DO /JP/?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:27:47 2011 No.7440719 >>7440707 Do you have any tacticians with good speed? I'm pretty sure that's obligatory when going against that tactician brat, it's a nightmare if you let any of his brothers have the attack bugg.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:27:47 2011 No.7440724 >>7440719 >bugg Er, buff. Hit the wrong key.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:28:47 2011 No.7440728 >>7440707 1. if you are defending just lose, who cares 2. if you are attacking, spend a few turns preparing for attack first 3. stop crying

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:30:47 2011 No.7440731 >>7440719 Oooooohhh, it's because of their buffs that they're strong? I guess I could beef up Ikkyu before the fight and see how that works out, I'll try that. The key is to remove status up, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:34:47 2011 No.7440750 >>7440707 - stop using generic units, seriously, they such hard - don't give that +2 moves pendant to that musketeer, waste - fuck, don't use archers, they such ever harder - use tacticians - have a better musketeer instead or get a good warrior

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:35:47 2011 No.7440753 >>7440750 - also have a second squad in case of attack on your land when you already used your main units to attack others

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:36:47 2011 No.7440754

>>7440728
No, this is some sort of event fight, it's forced after I end my turn, and if I lose (which has been happening, I get Alice asking for a redo or game over)

So considering I've been game overing and loading up my save over and over, I will cry as much as I damn please. Gonna try out Ikkyu now

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:36:47 2011 No.7440757 >>7440731 See >>7437499 Iehisa has 7 INT.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:43:47 2011 No.7440780

>>7440750
>- don't give that +2 moves pendant to that musketeer, waste
But her normal attack can kill troops in ONE HIT, between her and Yamamoto's (who is mai waifu) Bow Whirlwind or whatever, they've won several fights by automatically killing troops. But you're right, none of the instant kills, even Suzume's Assassination have worked on these guys. So I'll get off this thread for a bit and work my team around

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:43:47 2011 No.7440781

>>7440750
>- stop using generic units, seriously, they such hard
He's not using generic units.
>- don't give that +2 moves pendant to that musketeer, waste
Fuck you, Yuzumi is awesome.
>- fuck, don't use archers, they such ever harder
Fuck you, Isoroku is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:43:47 2011 No.7440783 >>7440754 if you redo their levels go down and/or they have less troops.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:46:47 2011 No.7440791 >>7440780 You'd be better with that square head guy instead.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:52:47 2011 No.7440812 >>7440791 But he's not cute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:53:47 2011 No.7440817 >>7440812 What the fuck is wrong with you? He is.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:54:47 2011 No.7440822

>>7440707
+ Kenshin remove the musketeer shimazu's move from 2 to 1. If you dont have kenshin, bring a diviner and hope he get to apply a 2nd barriet on Shibata just in time for the 2nd shot.
+ Protective charm on shibata will nullify that one shot
+ Ai has remove status (2), which will remove all of their buff in one go. Then keep buffing with Ai, of which the shimazu tactician will keep removing and they'd cancel out each other.
+ Just ignore the Shimazu footman and try to use attacks which cant be blocked by him.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 10:58:47 2011 No.7440837 File: 62 KB, 559x263, not cute.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440817

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:17:47 2011 No.7440875 File: 55 KB, 556x263, can't be helped.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440837

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:23:47 2011 No.7440888 >>7440707 Do what I did. I just focused on other matters and left them take some territories, but always making sure they didn't take the whole province, and used permits to retake it in an endless cycle of violence.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:30:47 2011 No.7440907
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Fuck me sideways I can say this has to be my hardest fight, I don't think I ever had this many game overs.

>>7440822
trying these out, except for Ai, it's Ikkyu for me, he's my only tactician, and Kenshin, because either she died from Xavier or maybe there's some event where I'll get her, but I don't have her anyways.

>>7440888
This is forced, I end my turn, Demon Army attacks one of my territories, I fight back, and then right after that fight, it continues with these dicks. And if I lose, Game Over.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:31:47 2011 No.7440910 File: 232 KB, 800x600, ALCG0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440791 >he doesn't give Action Textbook2 and Working Bee as well as all draft papers to Yuzumi

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:32:47 2011 No.7440912 >>7440907 Show me your commanders.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:33:47 2011 No.7440914 >>7440910 so that's where the /jp/ just got awesome picture was from

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:37:47 2011 No.7440922 >>7440912 I'm OP, using my Rance thread instead of making another, I posted my commanders earlier, here >>7437044 I added a pissweak diviner to try out, he has like 63 troops.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:41:47 2011 No.7440932 File: 159 KB, 800x600, ohsuzumewhyusosexy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7440922 Shit man not even, he has 53

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:43:47 2011 No.7440939 >>7440932 >turn 130

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:43:47 2011 No.7440941 File: 139 KB, 400x500, 1304381342174.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:44:47 2011 No.7440943 >>7440922 Ok, put 2 foot soldiers (Shibata and Maeda) and Rance in the front. Isoroku (hopefully she has whirlwind shot), Suzume and Ikkyu/Hara. Don't assasinate with Suzume.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:44:47 2011 No.7440944 >>7440932 If you have Ikkyu, use reverse of fortune on his 2nd turn or something.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 11:47:47 2011 No.7440951 >>7440910 whats the point when you could do the same to the squarehead and have better outcome, also the character is cuter

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:03:47 2011 No.7440992

>>7440951
Her attack has a chance to instant-ko ala assassinate, his doesnt. In higher difficulties, Tanegashima would most likely never take down a footman even with 2 shots as you are almost always outnumbered. On the other hand, you can plan your battle around her guaranteed assassination[1] before any of your other high-dps units get to act. Giving her the working bee gives her 2 more shots, making her the best assassin in the whole damn game. She simply scales infinitely better.

[1]: Assassination chance is calculated pre-turn. If it work, it'd also work every reload and vice versa.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:34:47 2011 No.7441057
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>>7440943
Um...I put Kou in front and tried Isoroku again (yes she does have Whirlwind shot, but of all the fights against the SHizumu bros., it doesn't kill them)

And I WAS gonna report this attempt, but instead of the brothers attacking, this time it's this guy...?

Let's find out how this turns out

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:39:47 2011 No.7441069 File: 107 KB, 800x600, LOLWUTGODDAMMITRANCE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7441057 Shitfuckdamn I love this game to pieces. God I cannot believe I traded from those dicks to this bottom bitch

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:46:47 2011 No.7441092

To beat that, pick Souun to kill him. If you have Demon Kentarou, then he will draw with that because while Kentarou cannot fight that dude, he has the invincibility barrier. If you have neither, use a generic as a sacrifice. An event will pop up in Owari where Rance devises a plan to kill that and you fight a boss battle.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:48:47 2011 No.7441102 File: 148 KB, 800x600, ALCG0006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My best playthrough so far

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:48:47 2011 No.7441104 File: 127 KB, 800x600, ALCG0025.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shimazu is even worse in Ran/kill the monkey, they start stealing your commanders.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 12:52:47 2011 No.7441113 >>7441092 Don't forget that if you have demon Kentarou, you should just keep sending him into battle with him as many times as you can before killing him up, because you get free levels from it. Only thing that little faggot is good for.

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 13:00:47 2011 No.7441135
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>>7441092
>>7441113
Alright thank you guys, I was about to come and bitch about this guy, killing any commander? Fuck his shit, I have Demon Kentarou, at least this game wasn't as hopeless as I thought, I was given mercy

thanks bros for helping me this playthrough

Anonymous Sun Jun 5 13:05:47 2011 No.7441150

>>7441135
It's pretty rage-inducing if you encounter him before Kentarou goes demon mode, having to sacrifice a commander every turn and being unable to pick generics. At least you can survive the Shimazu by hiring a lot of female generics from your prison, reloading if they take a non-generic, and trying to steal their precious oneechan as quickly as possible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 13:07:47 2011 No.7441159 >>7440951 First of all the squarehead isn't cuter. Second, he doesn't have Aim and Shoot, so he's automatically worse.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 13:59:47 2011 No.7441389 bampuuu

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 13:59:47 2011 No.7441390 >>7441135 Keep abusing him to level up kentarou for free. +3 levels each time if I remember

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 14:55:47 2011 No.7441619 >>7441104 There's a good counter for this. Clear your commanders, hire a female generic that hates you very badly. They only need to steal one commander, and then you can go kidnap Kurohime the next turn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 16:13:47 2011 No.7441826 BTW, when are the TL group going to release Rance 2. Their blog says everything is translated, edited etc and will release by the end of this week. It sure looks like the end of the week to me and still no release. Faggots.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 16:51:47 2011 No.7441955 >>7441826 People have their own deadlines. Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 16:58:47 2011 No.7441973 Well, if you are "commiting" to release something and make a big "RELEASE IMMINENT" post on your blog, and then it turns out you were talking out of your ass .....you diserve to be ridiculed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 5 17:42:47 2011 No.7442115 Fuck, just restart and get Kenshin and the reinforcements to save yourself (and us) even more headaches. They're not hard to recruit anyways.

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