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hello fair /jp/ers, eloquen/tg/entleman here, i was passing through the board and saw one of those newfangled "greentext stories' threads, not terribly unusual, but what piqued my interest was one anon pontificating on aikido.
now, fitan happens to be an area of my expertise, so i was ready for some nice discussion, but sadly the thread passed away. before i could post my work, so in the interests of good conversation, ill make this one! anyways...

the poblem with aikido is that it, by its nature, lack offense, that does not invalidate the principles espoused by it, but it is ultimately limited, because you are relying on your opponent to make a mistake or expose himself, trying to trip or unbalance a grappler with good base is like trying to uproot a treestump, which then segues into the various techniques one uses to gain positional controll over the opponent once youve got your hands on him, and afaik aikido does not have much in the way on clinch work. even if you do get dumped on your ass, by hanging on and having good mat sense, you can drag him down with you and use that motion to roll him over, ironicaly using the his motion which he used against your motion, against him.

now, wristlocks are a viable technique, and have been used in major grappling comps for a victory on occasion, but it is situational. first, anyone whos wrestled before knows how importaint hand fighting is, trying to get a firm grip on an experienced grappler is, again, a daunting proposition.
there is also the matter that there is a lack of control inherent to going for a wrist lock, which is why its situational, it can be done in the guard or mount, since you already have hip control over the opponent, but often times there is simply no reason to try for a wrist lock specificly as opposed to somthing with an easier entry like and arm bar or darce choke.

>> No.7367442
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attempting to intercept the limbs of an experienced striker is, yet again, a rather tall order, hits come in fast, and go back fast, its much easier, and *safer* to keep your hands close and block, parry, or slip the punch, and look for the counter hit, if the guys too much for you, then slipping or stoping the hit and getting into the clinch is the way to go, (not going to mention leg kicks at this juncture, before i get going and write up a whole essay).

trying for a wristlock entry from standing is a losing proposition since you dont have positional control, your oponent is free to do any sort of terrible things to you, not the least of which his arm being totaly free to pop you. its somthing that has to be set up first, or you can slap it on quick if the opportunity presents itself.

finaly, for simplicity, the easiest way to keep an opponent honest is with leg kicks, or shooting in for a double or single leg takedown,

for further viewing i have a couple informative jew tubes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLoOX58AE9g&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQGpinPPISw&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO5eVIQV75M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_B7Wd4LF28

so, in closing, a tool in the complete fighters bag of whammies, but not expressly an end in itself.

>> No.7367444

That's an old copypasta, the supposed power of Aikido is a joke long run down to ground. Move on.

>> No.7367449

I have defeated countless opponents using Aikido, and they always ask me, Why are you so strong?

I answer, I'm not strong, you are.

Aikido uses the strength of the attacker back at them but 10 times stronger(estimate). Using Aikido and I can probably kill a charging Rhino using it's force right back at it, of course, I'm not going to try it, way to dangerous for any sane person.

I recommend practicing Aikido for every /jp/edo, as you are all physically weak, and Aikido is specialized for the weak to defend against the strong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDnYNroUmNs

A 50 year old man with cerebral palsy doing Aikido, very touching.

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>>7367444

truely? i supose i have been trolled then, but i already had that all written up, i just couldent stand not sharing it if atleast one person finds it interesting.

>> No.7367466

>>7367463
I'll read it just for you

>> No.7367474

>>7367444

I believe you shouldn't underestimate Aikido. Now I know you may be thinking, "Why take a weakling martial art like Aikido seriously when I am learning Kendo?" I can see why you would think that, how can a peaceful martial arts like Aikido beat a powerful one like Kendo?

Well, I have a story to share with you.

Years ago, I was a Kendoka, I thought I was the toughest kid in high school, I would pick fights, and kick ass. I was full of hate, until I picked a fight with the wrong dude. He was a Japanese exchange student, I still remember his name, Noboru Takeda.

I picked on him because of his hilarious and thick Japanese accent. I told him I was going to beat him so hard, he would go back to China(Yeah, I was a little racist prick.), he never said anything back, made me wanted to kick his ass even harder.

Well, here comes the fight. I threw men and do strikes, he dodged them like I was a mere white belt. I was tiring out and he knew, I saw the smirk on his face that made me raged hard. I put all my strength in one amazing tsuki, and he grabbed past it to my wrist and threw me over. My back smacked on the hard cement ground, and I was knocked out for who knows how long.

When I woke up I was in the school infirmary, I asked the nurse who brought me here, and you guessed it, Noboru Takeda. The next day, he wasn't at school, he was back in Japan, and I never got to thank him, for saving my life and showing me the light. I soon learned that he was an Aikidoka and have been practicing Aikido ever since to show my thanks to him.

>> No.7367475

I read it

I didn't know fighting took that much thought

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>eloquen/tg/entleman

What is your favorite WH40K race?

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>>7367482

hmm, thats a tough one, but i guess you wont accept me saying i appreciate the aesthetic as a cohesive whole eh?
all things considered though, the adeptus mechanus has always been a soft spot in my heart, even now i thank my laptops machine spirit for providing me with the wonderful intertubes.

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>>7367463

huh unh

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back on topic though

heres a good example of a wrist lock being used in a live enviorment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipC9ngclruQ&feature=player_embedded

you have to look hard to see wtf is going on in this one, but fundamentaly hes got hip control through the guard, his right arm hooks the opponents left arm, and he pins the opponents right arm in his left armpit, for complete positional control, the hold is finished as he goosnecks the opponents right wrist down for the submission.

>> No.7367726

>>7367442


loled at op file name, the videos are pretty interesting too.

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