Why is Sachi such a slut? Grinding together in MMORPGs is a sacred ritual of the utmost intimacy between and man and woman. And she's doing it with random strangers ... disgusting.

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Anonymous Mon May 16 14:54:27 2011 No.7357514 [Reply] [Original]

Why is Sachi such a slut? Grinding together in MMORPGs is a sacred ritual of the utmost intimacy between and man and woman. And she's doing it with random strangers ... disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 14:57:27 2011 No.7357521 HEY BROSEPHIROTH HOW ABOUT A LITTLE SAUCE ON THIS THREAD SANDWICH

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 14:57:27 2011 No.7357518 File: 28 KB, 454x454, 1303662908157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357514

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:05:27 2011 No.7357542 >>7357521 ...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:06:27 2011 No.7357545 >>7357521 G-senjou no Maou

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:08:27 2011 No.7357551 >>7357521 http://vndb.org/v57

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:09:27 2011 No.7357554 Isn't she saying that line to Kenichi? Because he's far from a stranger.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:11:27 2011 No.7357558 Why is moogy so good?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:12:27 2011 No.7357561 >>7357558 Amazing writer Amazing translator Just an all around talented man

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:12:27 2011 No.7357563 File: 143 KB, 800x600, 1268425960104.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357554 He was a stranger when she said that line. She didn't even know his name 5 minutes earlier.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:19:27 2011 No.7357573 >>7357563 They were childhood friends, but now I remember that they didn't know Ken's real identity until later in the game.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:25:27 2011 No.7357588

[name txt="Sachi"][vo s=sac_0236]"I want to go on a date! We'll play MMORPGs all night long! And then I want you to confess your love to me by saying 'let's grind together, baby!'"[np]\
;;[name txt="Sachi"][vo s=sac_0236]「モリケンとデートしたい！　徹夜でネットゲームしたい！　そし
て一緒にレベルアップしていこうって告白されたい！」[np]\

The word was "level up" in the original, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:44:27 2011 No.7357642 File: 179 KB, 794x595, 1275158644671.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357588 Close enough. What was the original to this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:44:27 2011 No.7357645 Sachi > Touka > Natsumi. She even has variable breast size!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:47:27 2011 No.7357651 File: 137 KB, 804x604, 2011-05-16_154605.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In all honesty I'd rather have Ririko be the sadist in the situation though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:50:27 2011 No.7357666 >>7357642 [name txt="Kenichi"]"People die when they get lonely!"[np]\ ;;[name txt="Kenichi"]"寂しいと人間は死ぬんだってば！"[np]\ Protip: use TLWiki's search function.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 15:52:27 2011 No.7357672 >>7357651 At least she isn't wearing that skirt anymore. God it pissed me off every time I looked at it.

Anonymous Mon May 16 15:56:27 2011 No.7357687

>>7357642
>Close enough
If you wanted to be anal about it, "let's grind together" makes her sound like a cock craving slut, while the double entendre "let's level up/let's take it a step further" is a lot less dirty and more pure.
So you wouldn't have retards like OP calling character sluts because of a sentence.

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:01:27 2011 No.7357703
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Even though there were PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS everywhere I liked Sharin no kuni, I found the characters to be quite likeable and I liked the fact that the protag wasn't some sex machine wanting to sex everything up.

I am reading the fandisk right now and I finished the masaomi route, was enjoyable and to see what kind of person saburou was, though it kinda hurts when you read a story about a story about a character that gets killed off in the blink of an eye (Eri)

Stand back pigs.. I've got an appointment with my beloved

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:04:27 2011 No.7357712 >>7357703 >Even though there were PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS everywhere For the love of god, that was one goddamn scene. You fuckers act like the entire VN was made of bullshit like that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:04:27 2011 No.7357716 >>7357687 >implying she isn't a cock craving slut The lines fits perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:06:27 2011 No.7357721 >>7357712 >>7357703 >PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS What are we talking about here?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:07:27 2011 No.7357729 >>7357721 Play the game. There's a scene near the end of Chapter 5 that apparently ruined the entire game for everybody.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:10:27 2011 No.7357739 >>7357716 Well, I didn't play the game so it's fine if she's a cock craving slut when talking elsewhere, but that sentence isn't slutty so regardless of the character that says it it shouldn't be translated as so imho, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:12:27 2011 No.7357749 >>7357716 >cock craving slut That's Sachi, not Touka.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:17:27 2011 No.7357768 >>7357729 I have played the game and don't remember such a scene.

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:20:27 2011 No.7357781

>>7357729

I apologize if I offended someone I just exaggerated the preconcieved notions part for abit of comedic effect, dont pay much attention to it.

I feel I need to tell you that it did not ruin the game for me, infact I enjoyed it.

And not to mention it made the masaomis route´s resemblance with the original game more enjoyable.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:22:27 2011 No.7357788 >>7357739 She's not a slut. The guy is either trolling or going by /jp/'s shitty "any girl who ever has sex with anyone ever" definition of slut.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:23:27 2011 No.7357793 >>7357788 Letting a guy stay at her house because she thinks he's rich and then fucking said guy as a reward for saving her life sounds pretty slutty to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:24:27 2011 No.7357797 >>7357768 I have broken leg j/k lol I have drug addiction j/k lol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:26:27 2011 No.7357802 >>7357797 I don't those count as "preconceived notions" by definition and they weren't really that bad.

Anonymous Mon May 16 16:27:27 2011 No.7357805
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>>7357768

The first time is when kenichi is battling Houzuki and aims for his wounded leg and Houzuki goes PRECONCIVED NOTIONS when he reveals he had only pretended for seven years that his leg as wounded.

And then theres the scene where Kenichi does the same thing back when Kenichi is in the prison pretending to go crazy when he can't smoke his drugs and then goes PRECONCIEVED NOTIONS about him not really smoking drugs but instead harmless herbs.

Those were the only times in the VN, if I recall correctly.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:35:27 2011 No.7357839 >>7357805 I remember that, I was like wtf.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:41:27 2011 No.7357860 >>7357805 >>7357797 Kenichi himself said at least once that he wasn't addicted to what he smoked. Plus I saw both of those twists coming so I don't see the problem if you're trying to say they were asspulls or far-fetched or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:44:27 2011 No.7357869 >>7357860 Wow, nothing gets past you. Good job man, you're awesome.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:48:27 2011 No.7357879 File: 59 KB, 628x569, sarcasm_detector.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7357869

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:50:27 2011 No.7357886 >>7357869 What? I'm simply trying to figure out what huge problem everyone apparently had with those developments.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 16:59:27 2011 No.7357911 >>7357886 Well of course some people might find it very awkward when they think about the extent these trickeries go. Different strokes for different people, its that simple.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:35:27 2011 No.7357997 File: 27 KB, 347x449, mana_broken_arm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is wrong with this Mana's arm?

Anonymous Mon May 16 17:51:27 2011 No.7358037

>>7357911

The problem is that whenever Sharin is mentioned on this site, particularly outside of /jp/, everyone trolls it by bringing up those scenes and declaring the whole VN as 'shit' because of them.

And then they go and masturbate all over G-Senjou, because it's 'better' in some undefinable way.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 17:57:27 2011 No.7358058 >>7358037 bullshit even people on 4chan aren't that stupid

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:08:27 2011 No.7358088 >>7358058 Try /v/'s rare VN threads. Yes, they ARE that stupid. Sharin is apparently a pretty awful and boring game, with bullshit nonsensical plot twists everywhere that don't make any sense. G-Senjou, on the other hand, is a brilliant masterwork.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:09:27 2011 No.7358094 >>7358037 What. It's the opposite. Everyone says Sharin is better and that G-Senjou is shit because of Maou's identity.

Anonymous Mon May 16 18:21:27 2011 No.7358110

>>7358094
But G-Senjou relies a lot more on that twist than Sharin no Kuni does on legs or drugs, so it being terrible is a rather large blow to the game since it doesn't have much else of value (people give the epilogue the credit it deserves). Not to mention it's worse than any of the Sharin twists people complain about.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 18:24:27 2011 No.7358120 I guess they hate on Sharin because it was released first, kind of like how "baby's first eroge" get demolished around here.

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:01:27 2011 No.7358217

I simply can't understand the hate for G-Senjou here.
Okay, I'll give you that Maou's identity changing according to the route you play was a bad design choice. But is it really such a big deal? I didn't even care about the other routes at all. If you only look at the main route, the game was really entertaining and I enjoyed it a lot.

I'm not saying it is a masterpiece, and I bet no one else does. But it is certainly not as bad as you make it out to be.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:01:27 2011 No.7358220 File: 46 KB, 935x583, VN_lifecycle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think this is relevant to the discussion.

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:05:27 2011 No.7358227

One of the reasons as to why I liked sharin is the fact that I found kenichi to be a fun character and not a complete dumb nerd that is plaguing anime/vns in general.

While we are on the subject of VN's is there any other games in the same fashion of cat and mouse like g-senjou/sharin?

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:09:27 2011 No.7358238

>>7358217
>Maou's identity changing
That's not my issue.
I went through the entire game thinking "It's too obvious for Kyousuke to be Maou."
Then once his brother was mentioned, that set off a flag.
His body never being found made it obvious.

I guess it's because I played Sharin and recognized the same pattern from Ririko's reveal: how Looseboy suddenly gave more details at the beginning of the reveal chapter. Except it wasn't as obvious as Ririko because it wasn't a "X is really Y" but a "you didn't even think of Z" twist.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:16:27 2011 No.7358251 If you went through the game thinking Kyousuke can't be Maou, then you knew it had to be his brother right at that point considering all the references Maou makes to his parents being the same as Kyousuke's. It was more obvious, not less obvious

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:17:27 2011 No.7358254

>>7358238
So, what are you trying to say? It was bad because you figured out the plot twist before it was revealed? I too had that theory too while playing, but I couldn't be 100% sure until it really happened, and I think most people had the same experience. So I wouldn't say it makes the game bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:18:27 2011 No.7358258 >>7358254 Plot twist felt cheap. I couldn't enjoy the last chapter after that. Not that the last chapter was stellar anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:25:27 2011 No.7358279 >>7358258 I see. I assume the majority of the people feel the same as you then. Looks like I'll just have to deal with being the minority here.

Anonymous Mon May 16 19:35:27 2011 No.7358316

>>7358217
I think G-Senjou had some very good parts and some very bad parts. Overall the game was good but there were still some glaring flaws that left a bad aftertaste. And yes, the big twist being so predictable is one of them, probably the biggest one. The hype also exacerbated the disappointment. So I respond to G-Senjou more negatively than truly fits how much I liked the game. I don't go around hating on it but when the subject comes up I don't address it as that good of an eroge.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 19:48:27 2011 No.7358362 why do you faggots get so angry about the maou plot-twist? you make it sound like you would have preferred him to be maou the whole time, which wouldve been even dumber.

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:03:27 2011 No.7358419

I read both G-senjou and SnK and I liked them. SnK more. Maou twist was obvios, but that ririko thing caught me completely off-guard.

The thing is: is there ANY VN in English that ANYONE in /jp/ consider a "masterpiece"? It isn't a rethorical cuestion. We complain like bitches but we keep reading them, so I'd like to know some opinions.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:05:27 2011 No.7358424 >>7358419 F/sn was powerful.

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:09:27 2011 No.7358436

>>7358362
I would have preferred it if the plot were not so heavily structured around Maou's identity. Or they could have just done the twist better, for example not shoving "KYOUSUKE IS MAOU" down your throat the whole game and not having Maou's real identity be Kyousuke's long lost brother who everyone thought was dead. I mean seriously, long lost dead brother? How could anyone think that was a good idea.

>>7358419
It seems like most people on /jp/ have one eroge/VN they like and will defend to the death, and anything else they will shit all over the moment someone says anything positive about it. Personally I have a ton that I love. I voice complaints when I have them but won't go out of my way to trash a game.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:20:27 2011 No.7358471 >>7358424 Well, yeah (I'll asume you are serious). Made an impresion on me, back in the day.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:21:27 2011 No.7358480 >>7358419 Clannad would be untrollable if it hadn't had an anime adaptation and become so popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:26:27 2011 No.7358499 >>7358480 I was precisely thinking about Clannad. While not EPIC (see MLA), I find it flawless.

Anonymous Mon May 16 20:32:27 2011 No.7358512

>>7358471
I'm serious. While the ultimate subject matter isn't especially mature looking back since it's obvious other people don't matter with a bit of logic, it still shows that Nasu is a worthy man. And it still holds some wisdom in it. I find many of the translated VNs are exceptional at that. Inganock, Swan Song, Saya no Uta, Crescendo for example are all more than ordinary stories in their own way. Even Tears to Tiara was worth reading for that one chapter near the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:42:27 2011 No.7358560 >>7358512 I'll take a look at Inganock then. I must have it stashed somewhere in my hard drive. Thanks anon. Such an uncommon sight, praise instead of contempt.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:44:27 2011 No.7358569 >>7358512 I think a lot of them have soul. I think that's how I'd put it. That's why I love the medium.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:45:27 2011 No.7358572 >>7358560 Be wary, Inganock is 70% unimportant with 30% powerful. It tested my patience at the beginning. It's definitely worth it though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:50:27 2011 No.7358591 Symphonic Rain.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 16 20:58:27 2011 No.7358624 >>7358572 you could say the same about most any good story in any medium. the longer the exposition the better the pay-off (usually).

Anonymous Mon May 16 21:08:27 2011 No.7358663

>>7358624
That's probably only due to the fact that they're written by humans though. Humans who don't always have the foreknowledge of what is exceptional and what is ordinary, and simply write as they know how to. It doesn't mean that the story can't be good without the unnecessary parts cut out. Saya was good despite the length.

Anonymous Tue May 17 03:27:27 2011 No.7359726

>>7358591

I dunno, while I really liked Symphonic Rain, there wasn't nearly the resolution I would have preferred and the Fal/Lise routes hit me a lot harder, emotionally speaking, than Al Fine did.

Not that Al Fine wasn't fantastic, but it could have used a lot more impact than it ended up having.

As for what >>7358419 asked, I don't think there exists anything that deserves a 10/10. A story or game can always be better.

Anonymous Tue May 17 03:33:27 2011 No.7359748

I'll second MLA and Inganock.

Out of all the VNs I've read, those are probably the two that stood out to me the most. Though I admit that Inganock does have its flaws and will probably put some people off, but it was really worth sticking with. The setting and atmosphere was excellent, however, and really gave you a good feel for the story.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 18:46:27 2011 No.7362082 File: 199 KB, 804x604, 2011-05-17_184545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ririko >> Touka > Natsumi >>> * >>> Sachi

>>	Anonymous Tue May 17 18:54:27 2011 No.7362112 >>7359726 He asked what you consider a masterpiece, not perfect.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 02:59:27 2011 No.7363803 >>7362112 They're the same thing. 'Masterpiece' implies a perfect score. That doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 03:24:27 2011 No.7363866 Is Houzuki's route in the fandisc as good as the main game was? I need something to wash away the disappointment that was G-Senjou.

>>	Shameimaru Aya is my girlfriend !3y3mjHUKjI Wed May 18 03:27:27 2011 No.7363868 >>7363866 Well, I enjoyed it a lot. I'm not sure if that helps, though. Try it out.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 16:05:27 2011 No.7366137 >>7363866 It's good if you liked the running theme about the cyclical nature of human existence, but horrible if you prefer your Houzuki to have ambiguous motivations. Frankly, I hated it, but it's still better than G-Senjou.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 17:16:27 2011 No.7366341 Where does Ririko go in the other endings? She just kind of disappears off the face of the earth.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 17:22:27 2011 No.7366353 >>7363866 I sort of regret reading it. Aside from the scenes taking place in the present, the story left a bad taste in my mouth.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 18 17:27:27 2011 No.7366373 >>7366341 Probably in the exact same situation she's in when you get her ending, just without the daily boning from Ken.

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