Riviera/Dept. Heaven thread

[Anonymous No.]

The last thread had a decent discussion, so let's do it again.

I, for one, wish there was a direct sequel to Riviera, with the same setting and characters. Yggdra Union has a billion sequels and prequels to its name, so why not?

[Anonymous No.]

More sexy Cierra

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I'm playing Yggdra Unions PSP 'Normal' mode, the easier one.. its still fucking hard or I am fucking retarded.
I'm trying to reclaim the castle right now, and I have no idea how

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>Yggdra Union has a billion sequels and prequels to its name

it was the one I didn't like ;_; I agree, I liked Riviera much more.

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Cierra might not have invented the sexy witch look, but she damn near perfected it.

[Anonymous No.]

Who else went through the trouble of keeping a Coral Staff all through chapter one?

[Anonymous No.]

riviera thread was still going?
i too wished there was a sequel so badly
whats the closest alternative game to riviera, preferably with voices?

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>>7286416
Depends. Do you want another RPG with VN/datingsim elements? There are plenty of them out there. I just finished Luminous Arc 2, and I'm playing Record of Agarest War right now,

Do you want a game with similar gameplay? Good luck. Sting specifically designed this game to be unlike anything else you've ever played before. Although, if you haven't played Yggdra Union, you might want to do so right now.

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>>7286547
How are Luminous Arc 2 and Agarest? I dislike IF games in general, but have heard slightly better things about it.

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>>7286561
Luminous Arc 2 is pretty good. Not the best tactical RPG out there, but light years better than the first Luminous Arc.
Agarest is... okay. It's just not really as good as the initial hype led many of us to believe. Gets really frustrating at certain points.

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>>7286547
ok i'll try those, i played a little bit of yggdra union but something stopped me,
i might actually want to complete daiteikoku just because it's current, but its kinda hard. for me at least.

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>>7286574
All right. I'll continue to ignore Agarest then.

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Yggdra Union and Knights in the Nightmare are both fantastic. I never played Riviera because I heard it was shit. It looks like shit, to be honest. The fact that /jp/ likes it just convinces me further.

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>>7286583
But /jp/ also likes Yggdra Union and Knights in the Nightmare.

[Anonymous No.]

so... whats the timeline story of this?

blaze union -> yggdra union -> something -> knights in the nightmare -> riviera

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>>7286597
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dept._Heaven
1. Riviera
2. Yggdra Union
3. ???
4. Knights in the Knightmare
9. Gungnir

[Anonymous No.]

Since the thread died after I posted it here a link to an awesome LP of Riviera.
http://lparchive.org/Riviera-The-Promised-Land/

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>>7286606
The numbering system has nothing to do with chronological order.

>JaJa explained in his blog that the numbering system is more of a goal in originality of game design, for example, with Episode II being more original than Episode I but not as much as Episode III.

Which makes no fucking sense. But hey, that's Sting for ya.

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Im about to get this on my psp, do i need to get a undub or are there no voices?

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>>7286826
The English version has dual audio.

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>>7286839
oh cool at least some companies are doing that.

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There's not nearly enough Riviera fanart.

[CD !KjQ4605VEo No.]

I wondered why there weren't any Serene dakimakuras and then I decided it was because I hadn't made one yet.

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>>7286936

Try finding any Soala art at all...

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[Yama !XanaDuh0e2 No.]

The only route i skipped in this game was Lyuri's

Now i feel bad that i never got her ending.

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grow-up Lina...
..
.

LOL

[Anonymous No.]

The bath scene is the only thing good that came out of this game.

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And I'm out..

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>>7287217

Man, I wish I could find that.

[Anonymous No.]

Found Riviera's ISO in my fileserver, but I don't have a PSP anymore (died out of warranty).

Should I attempt to emulate it on a fast quad-core or should I spend a chunk of my wellfare money to buy a PSP?

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>>7284402
IIRC the only difference between normal and hard mode is that your morale does not heal when you level up in hard.
Yggdra union is a pretty hard game, especially if you do not level up your units evenly and spread out MvP bonuses (fucking OP Milanor)

Timeline wise, it seems to go Yggdra Union-> KiTN -> Riveria, as Diviners were incomplete in Yggdra Union, and the Lord Of Darkness or w/e in the extra dungeon of Rivieria was the defeated form of the Lord in KiTN (I can't remember this part, its been quite awhile).

Another way to judge would be by the Archangel Mariel, who went from Angel (Yggdra) -> Made a pact and lost her powers(KiTN) -> Fallen Angel (Riviera)

About dept. heaven episode 3, I remember reading somewhere that its supposed to be an MMO?

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Episode 3 means more original than Yggdra Union, but less original than Knights in the Nightmare. What sort of curveball can they throw in the MMO department?

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>>7287515
Well we can leave it to STING to come up with unique battle systems. I sure as hell did not forsee a game like knights to have worked so well.

Judging by their obsession with equipment that break after use, the equipment in the MMO would probably follow the same system... which would be an interesting change from the standard "get best gear and use forever" system every MMO has now.

That would probably be a gigantic pain in the ass though, unless they use Hexyz Force's system of upgrading 1 fixed weapon

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>>7287450
>emulating psp
nope.
i you are ot planning on getting a new psp, your best bet is the gba version

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>>7287515
And Gungnir is Episode 9, which means it must be the most original (or weirdest) out of any Sting game ever.

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>>7286646
I was hoping these were videos but nope.

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I've got Riviera for PSP, but I gave up playing because the levelling system was awful.

Is it possible to just cheat and make everyone a god so I can blast through this 'game'?

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>>7288323

practice mode

but the game is easy enough without it

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>>7288323
Cheats are for pussies.
Use practice modo as another esteemed anon said. When you practice your items don't lose durability so you can overlevel your chars with a bit of work and blaze around.

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Does this game have a lot of cool looking magic? That is what Usually makes me play an rpg. Its also why i hate wow, All the magic looks boring as fuck dont know how my friends can play that shit.

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>>7288944
Hahahahahahahaha no.

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>>7288446
I know, it's how I levelled but it got really dull endlessly repeating attacks and getting people to level up, not to mention how you can only save in between levels.

I used to level up loads, then encounter a boss battle and get killed, so I'd have to grind again.

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>>7288944

Tell me more about being autistic.

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>>7289234
"Finally! I leveled up all my characters, S-ranked that enemy fight, got the weapon I wanted from that roulette chest, and got my favorite girl to like me. Now all I have to do is get to the end of the level and I can save my progress..."
>timing minigame
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-"

[Anonymous No.]

you can always try jpcsp. on some games it works pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

evil warmongering psychopath?
or
tragic tortured angel?

[Anonymous No.]

I loved this game before I worked on the PSP version. That got a little dreary after the first month.

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Now that I am done with Trails In the Sky I am thinking of going back to replay this or Yggdra Union.

Which should I pick /jp/?

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>>7290935
Yggdra Union is probably the better game overall, but it also doesn't sit well with some people.
Also it's not as easy as Riviera.

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>>7290935
That depends. Do you want some lighthearted, enjoyable fun? Then play Riviera and fondle the angel statue. Do you want to be depressed as all fuck? Then play Yggdra Union and watch your favorite characters get killed in heartwrenching fashion.

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>>7290980
This is what the choices are like in both games.

Riviera:
>be a dick (kill Sage and Fool)
>be a bro (befriend Sage and Fool)

Yggdra Union:
>be a dick (kill Rosary)
>be a dick (kill Roswell)

[Anonymous No.]

I was so excited for Yggdra Union, I even preordered it, but I couldn't get into it. It seems like you need to know exactly how to move every unit each turn, and the number of weapon types is a mess.

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How is Trails In the Sky? I got the undub, It a normal jrpg right?

[Anonymous No.]

While we're on the subject of JRPGs with moe, how is ar tonelico 3? I've been thinking of picking it up, but I heard it sort of sucks. I can deal with sub-par graphics and a bad battle system if the characters are likable and the story is decent, so what do you guys think? Is it worth spending $40 on?

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>>7291093
It's an Ar Tonelico game. If you've played the first 2 and liked them, you'll like it.
If you haven't don't bother until you do.

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Is this the new Ar Tonelico? Are we going to have Riviera/Yggdra Union general threads now?

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>>7291069

>undub

Just die.

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>>7291953
What's wrong with undubs? There are some games you just can't play without an undub. For instance, Arc Rise Fantasia.

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>>7291953
>>>/v/

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how Yggdra Union and Touhou both utilize a Spell Card system.

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>>7291953
Sorry i dont play shitty dubs and this is /jp/, go back to /v/.

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>>7292843

Some, yes. Far and few between.

>>7293218

>Oh no, someone who is actually able to step back and look at things a little objectively!? We don't like that shit around here, get out!

Sorry, but dubs have been fucking FINE since the mid-PS2 era. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and letting their shitty bias get the better of them.

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>>7292843

Oh, and the fact that an undub even exists for TitS is proof that undubbers are fucking idiots and undubbing out of nothing but ignorance and bias.

The only voices in the game are BATTLE VOICES.

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>>7293791
>>7293762
we can have undubs if we want to, I dont know where you came from but your definitely not from around here. I dont even understand the point of dub if we only get bad underpaid voice actors, that dont sound cute at all.

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>>7293815

Sure, you can wallow around in ignorance if you WANT to... but who in their right mind would actually want to do that?

Bad underpaid voice actors? There's that bias again, preventing you from knowing what you're talking about.

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You better take your "dub sugoi" mentality elsewhere, anon. /jp/ rightfully looks on dubs as something that blurs the message of the creators and we don't like that.

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>>7293922
Undubs don't magically erase the existence of dubs. You're being ignorant and biased to only listen to the English dubs and say that they're better.

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>>7293976

Haha, that's funny, because if you knew anything about the industry, you'd know that the creators are the ones who pick the English voice actors themselves.

>>7294028

Except that I never said that they're BETTER. I said that they're FINE.

I listen to both sides because I like knowing what I'm talking about and I enjoy both English and Japanese dubs.

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>>7294066
>the creators are the ones who pick the English voice actors themselves.
But that's wrong. Explain why Rune Factory and Rune Factory Frontier have different casts for the same characters.


>Except that I never said that they're BETTER. I said that they're FINE.

You said they were "fine" and also told someone to "die" for using an undub.

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>>7294066
>Haha, that's funny, because if you knew anything about the industry, you'd know that the creators are the ones who pick the English voice actors themselves.

2/10
Do you know what an ADR director is?

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>>7292933
They're called "tactics cards" in Yggdra Union and they work in a completely different way. No relation.

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>>7294066 Haha, that's funny, because if you knew anything about the industry, you'd know that the creators are the ones who pick the English voice actors themselves.
AAHAHAHAHA

No.

And even if they did, the original director isn't there to make sure they don't fuck anything up.

[Paperchair No.]

Workin' for my bad ends, feeling like a total asshole after.

[Paperchair No.]

I really liked getting all those rocks in Riviera and tossing it at stuff.

Nailing those bats, sniping that one monsters while going down the big tower, shit was ballin'.

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bamp

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Archangel up in this bitch

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>>7295442
Don't you mean "Marietta up in this bitch"?

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>>7295486
Class is still Archangel. It would be like if I had posted a picture of Malice and said, "Grim Angel up in this bitch."

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>>7294092

Uh, because the creators don't always pick the same people? Or they could have been dissatisfied with the first bunch? Regardless, I should have clarified I guess but I kind of figured that understanding variations was common sense. The creators don't always choose, but more often than not, they do, or at least they give their approval.

I told someone to "die" for using an undub because there's a 99% chance that if someone is using an undub on their initial playthrough that they're weeaboo trash. And I mean that in the "NIPPON IS SUPERIOR!" definition of weeaboo (the definition that is correct), not in the "Hi I like Japanese things" definition.

>>7294138

Yep. The person in charge of the automated dialog replacement. Your point? That doesn't really negate what I said (which if you'd follow it up by actually talking to people in the industry, you may actually find out the truth!)

>>7294520

Oh, because the original creator is there to make sure that the original director didn't fuck it up too, right? Right?

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Theories as to why Atlus might not be interested in localizing Blaze Union usually cite the fact that certain elements of the game conflict with Atlus' translation of Yggdra Union, such as the alteration of Gulcasa's title of Blazing Emperor (焔帝, Entei?) to "Emperor of Carnage" when the fire motif associated with Gulcasa is very important in Blaze Union. Fans have also expressed worries that the events of the battlefield "The Warriors' Vacation -Girls' Side-" (戦士達の休息-Girl's Side-, Senshitachi no Kyuusoku -Girl's Side-?) and its Game Over scenarios, which depict the attempted rape of the female party members (including eleven-year-old Eimi), would be difficult to localize without some form of censorship due to their controversial subject matter. This particular event was even met with disapproval by several members of Sting's staff, though it became popular among a minority of male players in Japan. Fans have also expressed concern that the suggestions of Gulcasa's bisexuality, such as his affectionate relationship with Nessiah, might be censored.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember some weeaboo faggot asking for an undub of Knights in the Nightmare. He didn't know that the Jap version had English voices, too.

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>>7297186
>>>/v/

>>7297175
Not source?
>>>/x/

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>>7297190
>sage
>gay
>autist
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>>7297203
lol EPIC WIIIN XDXD!!!

>>>/v/

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>>7290676
That's actually precisely what happened.
It was early in the game with the giant orb and really long button sequence.
First time I did it, I died in the battle afterwards
Second time, I fucked up the giant orb thing.

I used a shit load of items so I said fuck it and saved after 2nd attempt.

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>>7297211

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How should I feel about this?

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>>7291069
One of the best JRPGs I've played in a while, It sure starts off slow but soon enough it had me grabbed by my fucking balls, now I see why Japan loves this relatively new franchise so much.

If I were to make comparisons it sure reminds me a lot of Suikoden and Grandia, with an uncanny mixture of political intrigue and lighthearted adventure.

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>>7297451
It is the music.
Falcom really makes great music.

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I thought I was the only one who played Riviera.
Looks like /jp/ really does have better taste in video games.

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I wish we saw more of Sage and Fool. I really liked them.

It helps that one of them is a trap.

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As someone new to the series, where should I start?

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>>7302308
Riviera if you would like something like an RPG+dating sim combo.
Yggdra if you would like an SRPG that may leave you in despair.

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>>7302340
despair? is it that hard?

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>>7302345
That and you inevitably have to kill off a number of good characters, so no "save every single one of them" ending.

Check what this anon said:
>>7291026

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>>7302372
I see.... ok, I think I'll go check out Riviera. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

I played the gba version of Riviera a few years ago. I never got to finish it (I lost my save state when I had to wipe my hard drive), but I was enjoying the game. Interesting hows there is a community of people who've played this game before. Then again, I hardly browse/lurk here anyway. Just wanted to stop by and say that this was a great game.

[Anonymous No.]

You know what we need?

More Cierra.

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>>7286561
>>7286574
Speaking of Luminous Arc
Are we ever gonna get a translation of Luminous Arc 3? Ever?

[Anonymous No.]

I usually hate child characters but Lina/Iyuri was awesome. If there was anything in the back row that needed to be raped, she did the job marvelously.

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>>7306348
>If there was anything in the back row that needed to be raped, she did the job marvelously.
Yeah, I always put her in the back row.

[Anonymous No.]

You will never have a scythe-wielding tactician as your housewaifu.

Ara ara~ ;_;

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>>7306244
Why the fuck would you want that?

While on the subject, is luminous arc 2 better than the first one? Because saying the first one sucked hard is an understatement. Except for Mel and a certain white mage's badass transformation.

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>>7290902
I can't possibly be the only one who noticed the similarities...

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>>7308462
I think that would apply with every tome wielding magician...

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>>7290902
Destiny back when he was younger.

[Anonymous No.]

Since this thread is still alive. Can someone repost the 1st image in this thread from easymodo:http://archive.easymodo.net/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=my+OTP

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>>7308892
Sure, why not.

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>>7308437
You forgot Vanessa.
She kinda looks like Cierra, come to think of it.

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>>7310469
Yeah, sorry about that, can't believe I forgot about her. I prefer Cierra for some reason, though. A case of "things are best in moedration", I guess.

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>>7310498
>moedration

NOT SURE IF TYPO

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>>7310519
It was a typo, but it doesn't sound so bad, doesn't it?

Oh well, the point is I like Cierra being more balanced and not as wild.

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>>7310541
Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. Cierra is for those who prefer the sweet, ditzy, big-sister type. (Hell, she's even voiced by Yuko Goto.) Vanessa is for guys who like their women wild, naughty, dominant, and into straight shota. (Ask her how many times she tried to get Theo to be her "Rym.")

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>>7310576
In my case, I think it's also the fact Cierra is from a much, much, muuuucchhh better game.

And to make things clear, Serene is by far my favorite girl in riviera, not the others aren't great too.

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DANJO DAN DANJO DANJO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHOkRkbhlxo

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>>7306244
I don't think Luminous Arc 3 will ever get a translation, which is sad because the game was really great. That game definitely shouldn't have been rated Cero A, though.

Even if you have low weeaboo skills, giving Luminous Arc 3 a shot in Japanese would be worth your while.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread needs more Blaze Union

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>>7311211
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjIvbMOzOlU#t=35s
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[Anonymous No.]

Looks like all that creeping and stalking finally paid off.

[Anonymous No.]

posting the LP for those haven't read it, it's very good.
http://lparchive.org/Riviera-The-Promised-Land/

[Anonymous No.]

There needs to be more Soala fanart.