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Muv-Luv General Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:02:17 2011 No.7256886 [Reply] [Original]

Old thread on autosage >>7219923
MLA Patch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?z0n3df4bd8n3d0z
Apply first partial, then overwrite data.ami.
ML Patch:
http://www.mediafire.com/?hszs6ep4q1v98tk
OSTs and such:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9992zm23kqn9y
ML/MLA/MLAF sprite/bg/everything rip torrent:
http://sukebei.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=45774

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:05:17 2011 No.7256893 >>7256886 ...where did you get that image from?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:05:17 2011 No.7256896 It's called a bump limit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:09:17 2011 No.7256903 >>7256893 Haruko Maniax. And we really didn't need this thread. Discussion has all but tapered off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:09:17 2011 No.7256905 >>7256893 The short story in Haruko Maniax, Houki naru Chi Basically Meiya and Yuuhi switch places

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:14:17 2011 No.7256921 >>7256886 Why is that torrent over 8 gb large? How many damn images are there?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:16:17 2011 No.7256931 Are the other Muv-Luv games better than Alternative? I feel pretty let down by it...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:18:17 2011 No.7256941 File: 57 KB, 734x456, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7256921 Because age There's roughly 80k Alternative images, and 55k Altered Fable images

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:19:17 2011 No.7256945 >>7256931 You did read Extra and Unlimited before hand, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:20:17 2011 No.7256947 File: 142 KB, 288x499, why.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7256941 >55,109 files >79,487 files

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:27:17 2011 No.7256978

3 days before the one month grace period is over and the game becomes shit like every other translated vn.

someone tell me what tda01 is going to be about before then. does it have a new cast or does it have the girl from the aircraft carrier thing? will takeru ever get to use a takemikazuchi?

what's that tsfia scenario about? I heard it was the capital during the coup but it looked like tsukuyomi was there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:32:17 2011 No.7257008 >>7256978 Only master rank autists believe such a thing, Anon. You're not a master rank autist, right?

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:46:17 2011 No.7257065

>>7256941
>There's roughly 80k Alternative images, and 55k

wut

I haven't even extracted my AF folder because I was playing the game...holy shit, it's that huge?

Alt was mostly sprite animations for the mouth movements and shit, as well as resized sprites for perspective. Pretty light on the CGs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:47:17 2011 No.7257070 >>7257065 It probably extracted CGs and effects for the TSF game too. TE as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:50:32 2011 No.7257081 File: 8 KB, 244x207, (null)716.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7257070 >7070

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 19:53:17 2011 No.7257096 http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/kimimuv/melmani_chara.html I was pretty buttmad when there wasn't a Mel h-scene in TDA 00, so this is cool

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:12:17 2011 No.7257182

So, I'm at the point where they were told to attack the Original Hive 12/30 and I gotta ask a question, what happened to Section Chief Yoroi and the Grand Chamberlain? I haven't heard of them since the Coup d'etat. And from my own guesses he's probably dead (IIRC he says he was gonna go to some base with the Grand Chamberlain when he gives the Shogun to Takeru to go to Yokohama. And later during the Coup d'etat we find out the bases nearby were captured or something). Which is why Mikoto is no longer a political tool (Chizuru's dad died, forgot what happened to Tama's, Meiya's was explained in game, and Ayamine's dad is dead) and can now be promoted.

I'll laugh when he shows up in the next hour or so of reading.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:13:17 2011 No.7257184 >>7257182 >Section Chief Yoroi His style is so impeccable he can only show up at the end after the Coup.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:15:17 2011 No.7257190 >>7257182 Section Chief Yoroi is the last boss

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:18:17 2011 No.7257202 File: 1023 KB, 1030x644, ML_Please.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never forget

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:19:17 2011 No.7257209 >>7257182 Grand Chamberlain bitch was on the aircraft carrier the Shogun got picked up on. Yoroi doesn't appear until Kashgar explodes

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:23:17 2011 No.7257228 >>7257184 It's also so impeccable, he can't show up outside of Alternative. Isn't it sad, Sakon?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:35:17 2011 No.7257272 File: 1.56 MB, 2604x1838, 1EF96D51.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Kasumi, this must have been the happiest day of your life. Now you know how Sumika felt in Extra.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:40:51 2011 No.7257283 [DELETED]

>>7256978
>what's that tsfia scenario about? I heard it was the capital during the coup but it looked like tsukuyomi was there.
It's just this.

Personally, I actually wanna see more of that Imperial Royal Guard Commander (he was the one speaking in the video with Tsukuyomi and was also the leader of the 16th Battalion in Sadogashima as they both have the same VA). He sounds crazy awesome.

Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:44:17 2011 No.7257292
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>>7256978
>what's that tsfia scenario about? I heard it was the capital during the coup but it looked like tsukuyomi was there.
It's just this.

>http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/149/1000096v.jpg

Personally, I actually wanna see more of that Imperial Royal Guard Commander (he was the one speaking in the video with Tsukuyomi and was also the leader of the 16th Battalion in Sadogashima as they both have the same VA). He sounds crazy awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:48:17 2011 No.7257303 >>7257292 >that Imperial Royal Guard Commander Same here. Was actually disappointed that he didn't show up any more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 20:56:17 2011 No.7257336 >>7257202 but takeru forgets ;_; >>7257292 wasn't tsukuyomi with squad 207 the entire time? how was she talking to a guy that was at the capital?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:07:17 2011 No.7257375 Is Kasumi Russian or Japanese? She's got an 11 name, but her sisters Inia and Cryska have ru names.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:09:17 2011 No.7257382 >>7257375 I think it was mentioned that she was from Russia, not sure though, it's been a while.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:13:17 2011 No.7257388 >>7257375 maybe the espers were named by the scientists in charge of them

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:17:17 2011 No.7257393 >>7256886 Is this a full MLA patch or just the first chapter?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:21:17 2011 No.7257400 >>7257393 you're late to the party, but the data.ami in the OP post is the whole thing

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:23:17 2011 No.7257404 File: 28 KB, 359x237, reactwake.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7257400

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 21:49:17 2011 No.7257478 >>7257375 That's not her real name

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 21 22:36:17 2011 No.7257595 File: 533 KB, 1024x768, 1301670410936.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7257478 I forgot about that, you're right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:21:17 2011 No.7257882 File: 91 KB, 1007x730, 1302301254762.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I play this game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:23:17 2011 No.7257888 >>7257882 By downloading AF or Haruko Maniax and losing repeatedly until you get it down and win without losing any units.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:30:17 2011 No.7257906 File: 787 KB, 1040x658, 1303070263054.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7257888 i got it, but how do i control TSF's I just get in close...but nothing happens

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:33:17 2011 No.7257924 >>7257906 Anon, if I could figure out the entire system despite not even being able to read kana at the time, so can you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 00:46:17 2011 No.7257951 There was a thread archived on /m/ that translated everything, but fuck if I can find it. Anyone got a link?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:13:17 2011 No.7258201 >>7257272 Where is this from? AF?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:14:17 2011 No.7258208 >>7256903 what is that game about? which universe does it take place in?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:17:17 2011 No.7258216 When does Alternative actually get to the good shit? I just got to chapter 5, after Mikoto's father came in Yuuko's office. Shit's pretty boring so far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:18:17 2011 No.7258220 >>7258216 Wait until start of the coup. Or better yet, wait until start of Sadogashima mission

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:20:17 2011 No.7258222 >>7258216 just uninstall it, nothing good beyond the usual class 2-B antics

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:31:17 2011 No.7258246 >>7258208 http://vndb.org/v5895 C'mon bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:39:17 2011 No.7258257 >>7258216 That's the beginning of it. Once coup d'etat happens shit gets very real.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:44:17 2011 No.7258269 >>7258257 >>7258220 How far away is that? Granted, things are already more exciting than before now that the timeline is changing and it isn't just Unlimited 2.0 anymore, but listening to the amazing OST on YouTube makes me wish I was further in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:47:17 2011 No.7258276 File: 507 KB, 1024x600, 2F6D3679.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I kawaii ~uguu

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:49:17 2011 No.7258281

>>7258269

Chapter 6 is coup d'etat. Should happen as you close in on December 5.

Chapter 7 is a nightmare chapter, probably one of the most horrifying and emotionally loaded of the entire game. If you survive that, you'll dive straight into the batshit insane mecha battles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:54:17 2011 No.7258291 >>7258281 Ah, I'm almost there then. I think my game save is at December 1 or 2. I know part of what's to come in Chapter 7. I've seen that image a few times now. Can't say how well I'll be able to handle it when it actually happens, though.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:56:17 2011 No.7258299

>>7258281
That chapter is just... horrible. I can't even start to count how many times I quit the game saying "I can't take this anymore... shit", brace myself to continue saying "it'll get better soon" and then get hammered down again. The whole thing is just depressing as hell.

chapter spoilernot to mention I didn't get spoiled for CHOMP beforehand so when it happened I actually freaked out and jumped from my seat. I even went in denial for a while, thinking it can't be really happening

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 02:58:17 2011 No.7258305 >>7258246 that's doesn't really tell me much. does it have the rest of the class or does it focus on new characters? is it the universe with yuuhi and kasumi?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:00:17 2011 No.7258311 >>7258291 >I've seen that image a few times now. Really, that's only the beginning. Even if you're expecting horrible things out of Chapter 7, it will still burn holes in your immortal soul.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:02:17 2011 No.7258324 >>7258305 The Haruko side story is either Extra or Altered Fable, unconfirmed I don't know. The rest is non-canon shit from Alternative.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:03:17 2011 No.7258328 >>7258291 Chapter 7 was literally the most disgusting and terrifying stuff I've ever read. Chomp.jpg is only just one part of it.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:34:17 2011 No.7258405

so was takeru's panic attack during the mock battle caused by the drugs or would he have freaked out anyway? it seemed like he was staying pretty calm before they started fucking with him

aside from a01 who else was using xm3? in regards to the piolit tier discussion how much of an advantage was it really giving takeru? wasn't the point of it to allow other people to do the moves he was doing without it?

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:43:17 2011 No.7258418

>>7258405
Takeru did say the xm3 allows him to do his acrobatic moves using fewer number of commands so the XM3 should be helping him move faster.

He wasn't exactly calm before they gave him the drugs but from what I remember at least he still have some self control. After the drugs he just stopped thinking and started raging

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:47:17 2011 No.7258420

>>7258405

It wasn't due to one single thing.

It was a combination of Alternative Takeru's PTSD from being killed by BETA, his own memories of loss from Unlimited, the stimulants and hypnotic therapy which made him lose it. His rage at Meiya was partially due to feeling like shit, since he had the stims, a tranquilizer and truth serum in his blood and was still under the effects of hypnotic therapy + was reliving his trauma.

Nobody else aside from A-01 and Tsukuyomi's unit are using XM3 in Alternative. Takeru is a naturally superior pilot to everyone else in MLA, but the XM3 puts them close to him such that differences in TSF specs can spell the difference in ability. Takeru was a better pilot than Sagiri during 12-5, but his Fubuki was weaker and he had additional burden.

XM3 turns newbies into veterans, veterans into elites, elites into super elites and Takeru into a god.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 03:58:17 2011 No.7258447 File: 815 KB, 1030x644, tsundere.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7258420 aren't the shiranui and the fubuki technically both 2nd generation machines? poor meiya, the way she reacted was adorable and heartbreaking at the same time

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:13:17 2011 No.7258487 I thought chapter 7 was the shittiest part of the entire game, woulda enjoyed it a lot more without that emodrama crap.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:20:17 2011 No.7258493 >>7258487 It's depressing, yes, but I dont think it's shitty

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:21:17 2011 No.7258494 >>7258447 They are 3rd Generation. Fubuki less so, its a TSF designed to be used to train pilots in using 3rd Generation and its Technology thought later I believe its turned into a proper fighting TSF.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:24:17 2011 No.7258502 >>7258493 for me the lowest part of the game was the middle section between the coup and sadogashima. actually the coup was kind of shitty too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:26:17 2011 No.7258505 >>7258494 I thought the takemikazuchi was 3rd generation but that's better than the shiranui. also why is the fubuki 97 and the shiranui is 94 if the fubuki came first?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:30:17 2011 No.7258514 >>7258487 >emodrama Welcome to every VN ever made?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:38:17 2011 No.7258529 >>7258514 You don't know what I refer to with "emodrama" then.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:52:17 2011 No.7258558

>>7258505
>I thought the takemikazuchi was 3rd generation but that's better than the shiranui.

The Takemikazuchi is also DESIGNED to be more powerful than the Shiranui since the Shiranui is a grunt suit designed to see widespread deployment throughout an Armed Force.

>also why is the fubuki 97 and the shiranui is 94 if the fubuki came first?

Because the Shiranui was adopted before the Fubuki as a Unit in the Imperial Army. Fubuki was really only a trainer/technology testers for everyone until its later used to fight shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:57:17 2011 No.7258567 >>7258558 what about the raptor then? I thought it was supposed to be the best 3rd generation tsf

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:57:17 2011 No.7258568 >>7258447 >>7258494 >>7258505 The Fubuki IS a 3rd generation TSF, but its specs are very low...in terms of specs, Gekishins are better. The chain generally goes like this: Fubuki < Gekishin < Kagerou < Shiranui < Takemikazuchi

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:59:17 2011 No.7258569 >>7257272 >Kasumi, this must have been the happiest day of your life. I have bad news for you. It's not real >>7258201 Yes, AF has ero cg for the standard heroines + Yuuhi, Haruko and Kasumi. Refer to the spoiler above though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 04:59:17 2011 No.7258570 >>7258567 Raptors are on the same level as Takemikazuchis

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 05:11:17 2011 No.7258588 >>7258570 what about the silent eagle/gekkou and the shiranui second?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 05:13:17 2011 No.7258591 >>7257292 > he was the one speaking in the video with Tsukuyomi and was also the leader of the 16th Battalion in Sadogashima as they both have the same VA That's not Mana, it's her cousin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 05:15:17 2011 No.7258593 >>7258591 oh that explains how they could be in two places at once

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 05:24:17 2011 No.7258600 >>7258591 ? Where did it say Mana has a cousin?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 05:31:17 2011 No.7258604 >>7258600 Altered Fable, Maya is Yuuhi's personal attendant just like Mana is Meiya's, and can shut her up with a glare like she does with the three stupid maids.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:03:17 2011 No.7258623 >>7258588 The Raptor is the best of the best since its is also deadly against other TSF's unlike other Units, save the F-15 with the Stealth Update.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:07:17 2011 No.7258626 File: 252 KB, 950x1342, muv_luv_3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is their hair so weird?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:10:17 2011 No.7258630 >>7258626 Gundam!

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:14:17 2011 No.7258633

>>7258626
The original Muv Luv's charm was supposed to be the genre shifting from a classic 90s aesthetic harem situation, complete with normally-unattainable girl popping up all of a sudden in the MC ordinary life.
They realized only later the potential for the serious war drama in Alternative but the characters were already established. Every character thereafter has normal hair because the war setting came to exists on its own on not just "harem game stereotypes IN WAR".

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:19:17 2011 No.7258638 >>7258626 >>7258626 Because Meiya is Physalis, and Yuuhi is Gerbera Tetra.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:20:17 2011 No.7258641 >>7258633 that doesn't make sense though considering half of the "new" characters are from an older game

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:44:17 2011 No.7258671 >>7258641 I was mainly talking about Total Eclipse, The Day After, Schwarzen Marchen and all those spin-offs which have pretty normal looking people.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:50:17 2011 No.7258684 >>7258671 >Schwarzen Marchen what is this from?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 06:54:17 2011 No.7258696 >>7258684 latest side story published in tech gian with character designs from Carnelian. Deals with 60s German pilots http://schwarzesmarken.jp/index.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:10:17 2011 No.7258710 >>7258626 Is this a doujin? any links?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:21:17 2011 No.7258723 >>7258710 I don't know but it looks kind of lewd

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:28:17 2011 No.7258733 >>7258710 >adult only well gee I don't know it's on exhentai anyways

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:31:17 2011 No.7258739 >>7258733 >exhentai that's not where pure love doujins go. I don't think I'm going to look into this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:32:17 2011 No.7258742 >>7258739 I skimmed over it but it didn't seem too extreme, just Takeru fucking Meiya and Yuuhi at the same time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 07:35:17 2011 No.7258752 >>7258742 I don't know I have a hard time fapping to characters I really like.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 08:17:17 2011 No.7258870 File: 570 KB, 1020x600, d.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You will never get fed by Kasumi ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 08:45:17 2011 No.7258944 >>7258276 Obligatory http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm5018765

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 10:20:17 2011 No.7259152 Chronicles 02's page was updated. June 24 release. Will contain "The Euro Front" in addition to TDA 01.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 10:38:17 2011 No.7259205 >>7258944 WTF am I seeing....

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 10:40:17 2011 No.7259207 >>7259205 you're moms penis

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 10:42:17 2011 No.7259211 >>7259152 Awesome. This is shaping up to be what 01 should've been.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 11:03:17 2011 No.7259261 File: 651 KB, 1600x1200, WP_11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tsukuyomi is just so friggin cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 11:06:17 2011 No.7259264 With Muv-Luv Extra, Unlimited and Alternative announced for the Xbox360, maybe we can have hope for an anime adaptation!

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Anonymous Fri Apr 22 11:57:17 2011 No.7259360

Here's the hypnosis hint if anyone's interested:

Oh soldiers under the rain of blood, the black mist, the night rainbow.

Oh soldiers whose souls are guided by the white water's surface, the drops of the moon.

Sing the praises of those names carved into a steel grave, and sound all the thousands of bells on this rotting land.

May we all one day go with joy to the promised land of death and victory...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:02:17 2011 No.7259371 >>7259264 Haha, no. I highly, highly doubt it will ever get an anime adaptation. And even if it did, there's a pretty good chance of it sucking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 12:04:17 2011 No.7259376 >>7259211 Yeah, hopefully the length they have posted for the stories so far is about accurate. Though, this game is shaping up to be rude as hell.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 13:45:17 2011 No.7259682 >>7258569 >spoiler Kasumi can (probably) read it from Takeru anyway, I'm sure she'd like that.

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:17:17 2011 No.7259764
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>>7258671
>was mainly talking about Total Eclipse, The Day After, Schwarzen Marchen and all those spin-offs which have pretty normal looking people.

Meiya, Tama, and all the girls with weird hair have that because they're designed after robots. It has nothing to do with harem, because Alternative is a harem universe too, it just goes grimdark wherever the BETA appear.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:23:17 2011 No.7259774 >>7258944 SOMONE TRANSLATE THIS SHIT BETA ARE MOE

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:28:17 2011 No.7259783 >>7259774 No silly, it's Lux is moe~

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:45:11 2011 No.7259812 File: 63 KB, 300x300, chomp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want my mami. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:46:17 2011 No.7259814 >>7259774 The first minute was about the little girl asking the lux about what food he wants her to make in his bentou and whatnot. Didn't actually watch the whole thing

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:46:17 2011 No.7259817

>>7259764
>Meiya, Tama, and all the girls with weird hair have that because they're designed after robots. It has nothing to do with harem
It might be based on robots but that kind of crazy hair was only seen in randomness slice of life harem anime though, I thought it was a pretty clear "homage"/reference. The intake style is basically a parody towards early key

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 14:47:17 2011 No.7259819 File: 63 KB, 300x300, chomp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want my mami. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 15:55:17 2011 No.7260001 So, anyone have a torrent for Ayu Mayu Alternative? I keep finding shitty ddls on shitty hosts. Then again, I'm only playing it for NotRyouma. I mean, Gouda Jouji

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 16:29:17 2011 No.7260085 File: 157 KB, 816x620, marimo_mami.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7259819

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 16:57:17 2011 No.7260187 >>7260001 I never could find one, so I ended up using the DDLs. You'll just have to deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 18:55:17 2011 No.7260705 So yeah, according to the credits Ni0 (Nitro+) did one of the mech designs. Which one did he do? The Takemikazuchi? That's the only one that I find to look similar to his normal designs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 20:03:17 2011 No.7260909 does anyone have the translation for the conversation at the very end of the game before the credits? no text showed up. it was like the part were they forced a .txt file to show up earlier.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 22 20:05:17 2011 No.7260916 >>7260909 All you need to know is RENAI GENSHIKAKU

Anonymous Fri Apr 22 20:12:17 2011 No.7260936

>>7260909
Summary:
Everyone is pretty pissed Meiya, Yuuhi and Kasumi all get the conveniently open seats by Takeru. Chizuru proposes a new seating arrangement, Yuuhi and Meiya are against it.

Yuuko comes in and calls Takeru a love nucleus or something, I forget the term from Extra. Proposes a new cooking battle to decide who will sit next to Takeru, everyone gives their best "I won't lose!" speech. Takeru just gives up and says do whatever the hell you want.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 18:17:17 2011 No.7264364 What happened to the Total Eclipse translation ( think I remember Toniglobe doing it)?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 18:18:17 2011 No.7264366 >>7263595 so brown and delicious

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:27:17 2011 No.7264597 File: 479 KB, 1024x600, 1302421178706.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why do age Americans = Aryans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:29:17 2011 No.7264600 File: 82 KB, 1018x593, 1302779178239.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mada arimasu~

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:33:17 2011 No.7264616 >>7264600 Why was her H-scene so... disappointing?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:34:17 2011 No.7264621 >>7264597 because age are racist american haters.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:35:17 2011 No.7264626 >>7264597 They depict Japanese as having a wide variety of different hair and eye colors while white people all rook same. I'm sure there's a deep metaphor in there somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:38:17 2011 No.7264635 >>7264616 Like... every other sex scene in ML? At least I didn't laugh

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:57:17 2011 No.7264676 File: 1.54 MB, 2604x1838, 1EE7F3F5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7264616 Which one? This one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 19:59:17 2011 No.7264683 File: 846 KB, 1018x594, 1302195306501.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7264626 Prosopagnosia?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:00:17 2011 No.7264684 >>7264676 >Which one? There's only one

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:00:17 2011 No.7264685 File: 26 KB, 226x166, 1261565479428.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7264676 >2604x1838 >AF displays at 1024x600

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:06:17 2011 No.7264703 >>7264684 I'd say Takeru lacks imagination. Why does it suck? High expectations?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:10:17 2011 No.7264719 >>7264703 >High expectations Bingo.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:18:17 2011 No.7264748
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Kasumi H-scene should be tearful and full of "Thank you, Shirgane-san ;_; " shots. But fandisc Takeru can be kind of dickish in his H scenes, so maybe he was too rough on her.

>>7264719

Which scene was the best for you in ML-MLA? Sumika second in MLA?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:21:17 2011 No.7264752 I found Chizuru's h-scene in Unlimited pretty hot myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:23:17 2011 No.7264757 >>7264748 Kei in Extra, I think. My memory is a bit fuzzy. Sumika in Extra and 2nd in Alternative were okay, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 20:29:17 2011 No.7264770 I wish I could be young again and get aroused at the eroscenes of muvluv games like some of you here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:34:17 2011 No.7265043 >>7264770 >implying age has anything to do it with

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:36:17 2011 No.7265050

>>7264364
I don't have any of the images but I have the text.

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マブラヴ Total Eclipse

Green is addition information on terminology added to make life easier.
Some additional sentences focusing mostly on sound have been added to the script.

Prologue: "Let's play Electromagnetic Danmaku Shooting Game."
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The drone of afterburners reverberate around the tunnels of the hive as a unit of twelve Shiranui Type 94 Senjutsuki cut their way through the stagnant air. Unopposed, the unit coiled their way downwards at high speeds through the gigantic main shaft, leading them further underground.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:37:17 2011 No.7265053

>>7265050
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First Lieutenant* Yui, the unit's commander, was seated in her cockpit in silence. She was enthralled by the panoramic view of faint blue light that surrounded her.

Images from the external camera of her machine engulfed her vision, the visual data directly projected onto her retinas. It was an unforgettable experience, the mesmerizing view all around could easily fool her into thinking just her body alone and unaided was floating and in flight.

The surroundings were so...alien...created by a species not of this world...beings not even of this solar system. There was this slight sense of subtle beauty invoked by the faint phosphorescence glistening glow of the unending cavernous passageway.

Yui took the spectacle all in, but then her heart momentarily surged...

*(First Lieutenants are commissioned officers directly related to Army and Airforce organizations. They are one up from Ensigns/2nd Lieutenant and have a NATO paygrade of O-2)

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Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:38:17 2011 No.7265055

>>7265053
Total Eclipse 09.jpg

Being thrust into a mission inside a Hive no doubt caused extreme mental tension to any participant, but Yui's willpower was remarkable. Her ability to control herself in such an extreme situation was uncommon and unnatural.

She was a natural born soldier. Her raw sense of spirit and willpower reinforced and refined since infancy to now. Tempered and hardened into who she was today.

【Yui】

"...Disgusting."

She murmured whilst narrowing her eyes at the view.

The purity of her spirit was just supernatural at the lack of a better term and just one of her main qualities.

To be disturbed by such thoughts, such images, to have your heart waver at the thought of it all was a sign of weakness and inexperience.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:38:17 2011 No.7265058

>>7265050
Just post the link.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mojfZ8lkwbQJ:svn2.assembla.com/svn/Touka/trunk/
edited/Total%2520Eclipse.doc+assembla.com+totaleclipse&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=fir
%20%20efox-a

This is from the TE segment in AF. e.g. the first chapter or so of TE.Though this is far from complete.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:38:17 2011 No.7265060

>>7265055
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Yui took in a long, drawn out, deep breath of air.

'Always maintain a heart of ice even when things start to heat up.'

The words she had remembered from the senior officer who had taught her everything, the man with the giant scar, crossed her mind.

【Yui】

"White Fang 1 to all units, cease flight immediately.

First platoon you'll move on ahead as vanguard.

Form an umbrella formation, second platoon shift into a wedge."

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:39:17 2011 No.7265063

>>7265060
Total Eclipse 14.jpg

【Military ATCO】

"Attention, White Fang 0 to all machines.

That large scale BETA force is en route to your position."

Total Eclipse 15.jpg

The warning had been received, but Yui could not see any enemy reactions on the sensors or radar. Nothing at all.

Total Eclipse 16.jpg

Was the report incorrect, or were the sensors malfunctioning?

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:39:17 2011 No.7265066

>>7265063
Total Eclipse 20.jpg

【Yui】

"Shotgun 3!* Here we go!

First platoon advance up to a distance of 1500 with the enemy as soon as there's an initial missile impact. Second platoon follow behind afterwards, maintaining a distance of 100 with first, provide supportive covering fire."

*('Shotgun' is a NATO brevity code word often followed by a number. The code is an order to your unit to cease current operations and to prepare weaponry depending on the following number. Weapon preparation is decided upon during briefing. In this case Shotgun 3 probably stands for "Stop what you're fucking doing and ready all weapons, missile units prepare a full salvo.")

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The Lieutenant's ears filled with a chorus of pilots chiming in with their own positive responses to the issued orders.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:40:17 2011 No.7265068

>>7265066
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Their leader shouts out in a calm and professional tone. The four units of the first platoon activate their flight packs for a few short moments, propelling them forwards with a jet assisted jump, closing the distance with incredible speed.

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They take aim with their rifles and open fire on the unending horde ahead that outnumbered them easily 100 to 1. The sound of 36mm rifles spewing forth round after round becoming the dominant sound that howled away in the rapidly filling main passageway. Wave after wave fell to the bullets ripping through carapace and flesh.

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However despite the attack starting off smoothly the vanguard unit rapidly lost momentum as it advanced. The four Shiranuis were forced to wade through the mountain of corpses and blood that washed up around their feet.

The friends of the massacred BETA frontline began to divide into two groups seamlessly, as if following the command of some omnipotent being, with one group splitting off to the left and one group splitting off to the right.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:41:17 2011 No.7265073

>>7265068
Total Eclipse 37.jpg

【Military ATCO】

"Attention, White Fang 0 to all machines."

The voice of the officer who was the unit's only lifeline to headquarters hailed in once more, issuing a warning.

【Military ATCO】

"Enemy reinforcement. Brigade* sized. 12 o'clock. Distance 3000! Approaching via hall H12 to H227."

The corresponding data appears in Yui's eyes, one set of the data catching her attention.

*(A Brigade is a military term that identifies a certain size of an military unit. A standard NATO brigade constitutes 4000-5000 men)

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:42:17 2011 No.7265077

>>7265073
Total Eclipse 40.jpg

The wave of destroyer classes came crashing down into the tunnel in the far off distance, their hulking forms picked out by the infrared sensors of her Shiranui, the image magnified many times so that it seemed they were merely a simple outstretched touch away.

The lumbering beasts turned every so slowly around until they were facing her and her comrades. Then like a violent tidal wave they set off into a gallop, surging forwards as one. This visage of impending destruction...this was the form that BETA took when their hated enemy, mankind, invade their territory.

Total Eclipse 41.jpg

【Yui】

"Notification to all White Fang units.

We will begin the field test of the experimental weapons.

Begin preparations!"

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:43:17 2011 No.7265080

>>7265077
Total Eclipse 42.jpg

A harsh warning tone echoed and pulsed throughout Yui's cockpit, urging, pleading that she begin evasive maneuvers.

The Lieutenant and her equally equipped wingman however stood firm, steadying their aim. The images that were scanned over their eyes of the approaching targets began to shake and tremor as the destoyer classes achieved top speed.

Total Eclipse 43.jpg

【Yui】

"White Fang 3...are you good to go?"

She queried the other pilot, as they discarded their Type 87 assault rifles, the ammunition inside barely expended. The huge, suspicious looking new rifles that were as big as the Shiranui's themselves were locked into place, the stocks of the weapons wrapping around and over the Senjutsukis' right shoulders. A hushed beep in the cockpit verified the saftey was removed.

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'Experimental Model 99 Rapid Fire Electromagnetic Rifle'

A new weapon produced by the Imperial Army's technological industry. The sound, like that of a jet engine gradually building up in power escalated, growing louder and louder, emanating from the mysterious weapons.

The many red lights on the radar readout were now at a speed and distance where evasion was impossible.

Total Eclipse 46.jpg

【Yui】

"FIRE!"

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Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:44:17 2011 No.7265082

>>7265080
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A sharp crackle of energy then a harmonious cry of gunfire drowned out everything. From the gaping maw of the Model 99 Electromangetic Rifles spewed forth a cascading torrent of 120mm shells, achieving firing speeds equal to that of a chain gun.

Empty shell casings were expelled from the containers behind like a fountain as rounds were constantly loaded autonomously. The incredible overwhelming force of the recoil from these viciously powerful weapons began to shake the entire frame of the two Shiranuis' to the point the cockpits inside were jarring uncontrollably.

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Yui clenched her teeth as she concentrated on her targeting display and sensors, ignoring the violent vibrations all around her.

On the radar, the swarm of red dots looked as if they had come to a complete stop, their advanced entirely halted.

'Huh?' she thought to herself, was the sensor misreading again?

She returned her focus back to the visuals from her external camera.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:45:17 2011 No.7265084

>>7265082
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Such a huge number of destroyer classes, their powerful counterattack completely halted just by two Shiranuis?

【Yui】

"...Heh."

The lieutenant tightened her grip on the trigger of the FBL* control system, laughing quietly to herself and her spirits lifted.

*(FBL is an aviation acronym for Fly by Light one of two ways controls are linked to the other systems of an aircraft, the other type known as Fly by Wire. Fly by Light utilizes optic cables over the standard bulky cables used in FBW systems, making them much more responsive, faster to react and provides more space and weight for cargo or armaments.)

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Even though it was a rookie's mistake to get caught up in such a furor, Yui just couldn't help but feel ecstatic at the scene before her.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:47:17 2011 No.7265087

>>7265084
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Like an expertly conducted concerto, with the model 99's leading the orchestra and Yui's order's as the conductor the entire company opened up with a hymn of ordinance and a chorus of missiles impacting left and right. The first platoon pushed forward again, close quarters combat their forte and the second platoon providing fire support from their position.

The destroyer classes out in the rear who were still in the process of charging fell victim to cluster missiles, which streaked past them and behind their front armor before dispensing scattered child warheads into their exposed skin, obliterating any of the smaller BETA strains nearby.

They could win...They WERE winning.

Suddenly another urgent tone began to beep away in her cockpit, a warning message appearing across her vision.

The vibration sensors, which were picking up the recoil and explosions from the battle began to radiate a bright white.

Total Eclipse 53.jpg

【Yui】
What?

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:49:17 2011 No.7265092

>>7265087
Total Eclipse 60.jpg

【Yui】

"The barrel's overheating!?"

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The experimental model 99 electromagnetic rifle was known to rapidly overheat due to speed at which it fired such large caliber ammunition.

That's why it was equipped with large-scale state of the art cooling systems but when there was trouble with the system an inbuilt safety would shut off.

Unfortunately for her it had decided to fail at the wrong time and the safety system had shut her new weapon offline.

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Breathless and in desperation she reached out for her Type 87 assault rifle.

But it wasn't there. A sense of realization and dread took hold of her when she remembered she discarded it when equipping the new rifle and the mounting of it meant she only sortied with just one.

【Yui】

"--ah!?"

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:50:17 2011 No.7265098

>>7265092
Wrinkled skin. Pulsating flesh. The heavy stomp of many feet. Her entire body shudderd in fear as it approached.

Total Eclipse 68.jpg (This was a real bitch to get)

With its arms raised the closing grappler swung.

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Her cockpit shook and shuddered as with explosive force the Model 99 was purged from Yui's hardpoint, freeing her right arm from the dead weight.

From a casing built into the forearm the hilt of a dagger designed from close combat shot out like lightning, followed by a second.

She lunged with all her strength.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:51:17 2011 No.7265101

>>7265098
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She was too slow, a hair's breadth to slow...

'White Fang 1 is judged to be unable to fight anymore.'

A new, disembodied, computerized voice announced. The grappler's arm had frozen in place. It had pierced the outer armor but had stopped just before it tore into the cockpit.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:52:17 2011 No.7265102

>>7265101
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Then, everything that she could see, the hive, the BETA and her allies all began to shatter into hundreds of hexagon shaped fragments. Everything was bathed in red light as the fragments started flickering out one after another. Large writing appeared in place up against the walls of the simulator, 'Virtual combat program 19 Voruk* has ended.' and the entire machine began to shut down.

*(Voruk is the name of the Russian task force that entered the Minsk hive with the purpose of gathering data on BETA hives. Only a few survivors were extracted out of the hundreds at the end of the operation but the data they brought back proved invaluable.)

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【voice 】

"Great...thing cuts out just when we need it most?

That means it's..."

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:53:17 2011 No.7265109

>>7265102
【Yui 】

"No...the cooling systems were hit by a fragment of a grappler.

There was nothing wrong in it's operation."

【Amamiya 】

"Ah I see. Then the problem is the weapon's defensive capability."

【Yui 】

"No. If I hadn't let the enemy get so close in the first place it wouldn't of have been a problem."

【Amamiya 】

"Well, if your Senjutsuki was a little faster and readied your blades faster it probably would have been fine."

【Yui 】
"I...can't agree with what you say. No, the Senjutsuki was performing fine, no problems with it at all."

She reflected on what had just happened. With her gone the entire right flank would of have been routed entirely. The first platoon and second platoon were completely separated from one another and were easy pickings. They would of have been annihilated in a matter of minutes.

Even then, if she was able to hold out for a little longer only half of them would of have probably returned alive in that situation.

>>	age age Sat Apr 23 21:55:17 2011 No.7265114 age age age age AGE

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:56:17 2011 No.7265119

>>7265109
【Yui 】
"I was negligent.

I was too caught up in the capabilities of the Model 99 when I should of have been looking out for Sleeper Drift's* instead."

The entrance, called Sap Drift+, had been covered with the same material that lined the Sleeper Drift.

All made from unecessary drift aquired from hive expansion

*(Sleeper Drifts are ambush tunnels dug out by BETA either during or before an assault.)
+(Sap Drift is the collective name of Sleeper Drift exits...I think.)

【Amamiya 】

"Even if we were cautious, with just a single company 100% detection of Sleeper Drifts is impossible."

【Yui 】

"..."

Yui remained silent. Although it was just a simple combat simulator she was beating herself up and blaming herself over the poor the results.

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 21:57:17 2011 No.7265123

>>7265119
Amamiya had known Yui for a long time and knew just what her friend was mulling over.

She knew Yui was a good leader and strategist who's methods had been the most effective when it mattered most. What happened was just beyond her control.

There was one easy way to ease the tension in her superior.

【Amamiya】

"If the First Lieutenant was in charge, the Imperial Army would of have taken back Sadogashima* long ago."

*(Sadogashima is a small island just off the west coast of Niigata on the Japanese mainland. It is also the location of a phase 4 four hive and the operation to liberate it plays a major role in Alternative. In this stage of the timeline the Sadogashima operation is still in the planning phases.)

【Yui 】

"... ... Amamiya."

Yui looked up to see the light hearted smile on Amamiya's lips. She felt relieved, knowing that her subordinates understood her and were willing to share her burden.

'I guess I did it again.' she thought to herself after regretting the way she had been acting.

It was just a nature she had inherited from her father and something that couldn't be easily changed.

【Yui 】

"You've made your superior officer feel foolish."

The young officer returned the smile to her subordinate, greatful for her concern.

----

And that's all I have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 22:02:17 2011 No.7265145 >>7265123 Yeah, the assembla link above is much further along than that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 23 22:45:17 2011 No.7265272 File: 64 KB, 520x390, fsnoruta3kt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is the bigger slut [] Sakura [] Sumika [] Takeru

Anonymous Sat Apr 23 23:50:17 2011 No.7265499

Late as fuck to the party, but oh well.

Marathoned Muv Luv and Alternative without stopping to play anything else or even watch any anime, so the whole story felt like one hell of a journey. Extra was unbearable to play through, the very definition of a chore. It was painfully boring, but I managed. Unlimited on the other hand, was really cool, had some pretty awesome moments and worked as an introduction pretty well. Just playing through it was already the fiasco that was Extra.

I finished Alternative a while ago. Man, holy shit.

So far, I can definitely say one thing: best eroge I have ever played, and it's hard to imagine something ever surpassing it. I think it's time to finally start taking my jap studies seriously, because so far, I doubt there's something english translated that's better.
Fuck, from the fighting scenes to the relaxed talks in the PX, everything was just so fucking great. The characters were all awesome, being developed on a pace that felt really realistic and not forced. Art, music, special effects, even the system was excellent, the very definition of a well allocated budget.
Maybe it's me getting too emotional and involved with the games, but man, I never went through so many emotions on a VN before. So far, most of the times I cried with a game were because someone had died and a sad music was playing. But with Alt, many of those times were me bawwing like a bitch with a huge smile of satisfaction. Scenes like when the first Suzano'o strikes Sadogashima for the first time got me yelling so loud that I ran out of air. Lots of scenes with the cast being silly, specially Ayamine also got me laughing hard.

Shit, I'd keep going but I'd have to end up splitting my post in two parts, and fuck that. Just wanted to say that this game was amazing, 10/10 material and my favorite VN so far.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:03:17 2011 No.7265528 >>7265272 [X] Sakura Duh. Sumika doesnt even have a choice. Sakura was just being a baby and a crying whining bitch and wanting Shirou's cock.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:07:17 2011 No.7265539 >>7265528 Sumika kept looping Takeru and making him repeat the same 3 months for who knows how long until he decided to pick her that's kinda bitchy right there, even if it was indirect.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:08:17 2011 No.7265541

>>7265499

I couldn't watch anime or read manga for 3 weeks after finishing Alt. Shit feels so immature and superficial after seeing all the suffering and sacrifice for 30 FUCKING YEARS.

Now, try and play Extra all over again. You'll notice all the themes from Alternative that you didn't see before, but applied to the Extra setting. The Sumika scenes will also tear you apart because you're now a depressed Vietnam war vet on perma fight or flight mode.

I actually had the toughest time playing Unlimited over, because you have the foreknowledge of dread at the terrible end that's coming. But Extra is still a kick in the pants.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:12:17 2011 No.7265563
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>>7265539

An argument can be made about both Takeru and Sumika being unfaithful, but really, it was almost completely outside of their control. And neither were cockthirsty and possessive like Sakura is, sure you can say Sumika was like that, but not when she regained her humanity. In fact, she felt shame and guilt over it, while Sakura didn't.

Sumika wasn't after cock, she was after Takeru. Takeru was likewise only for Sumika. But Sakura was dicks dicks dicks, and that lust overlapped with her childhood obsession over Shirou.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:20:17 2011 No.7265612 >>7265541 >You'll notice all the themes from Alternative that you didn't see before, but applied to the Extra setting I think he'll be too busy going "Did Yuuko really just say that?" to notice that really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:22:17 2011 No.7265623 >>7265541 Playing Extra again was refreshing and I appreciated all the high school harem hijinx a bit more after the DRAMA of MLA. I kind of wish AF was a full on revamp of Extra with routes for all the new characters, instead of just being a fandisc.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:25:17 2011 No.7265634

>>7265541
Yeah, I can imagine that watching/reading anything is going to be somewhat of a problem, as I doubt anything will even get close. I looked at the list of shows I was downloading this season, and my first honest thought was "WHAT A FUCKING LOAD OF SHIT". Just gonna try to forget about it as soon as I can so I can carry on with my nerd life.

About the Extra foreshadowing, I was already somewhat aware of how things were going to turn out when I played it, so when Yuuko went rabbling on her theories, it was pretty obvious it was going to be related to something in the future.

>>7265623
That's somewhat amusing. When I first played through Extra, I was just praying for that to end so I could just get to the mecha action. But when you return to your world, everything felt so relaxing and nice. Great way to wrap everything up.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:28:17 2011 No.7265657

>>7265634
Not just the theories though.
Nearly everything she says before Dec. 10th or so is related to Alternative in some way.
And then there's thing like the bit in Unlimited with Takeru confronting Yuuko about Sumika and how carefully worded that was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:30:17 2011 No.7265664 >>7265634 >>7265657 It really shows how planned out everything was.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:39:17 2011 No.7265709

>>7265623

What I've seen so far of AF bugs me, and feels unreal because it's too supersweet and carefree. Beneath the surface Extra always had the serious drama element to it that only came out toward the end, but I'm not feeling that from AF at all. You don't get the impression these kids are only months away from growing up and becoming adults.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:42:17 2011 No.7265725
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>>7265499
>>7265541

Haha. I felt the same way after Alternative. It's like, once you go MLA. You be come a paranoid war vet. I can't watch any anime or read any manga where a character is in danger anymore because I'll be like "OH GOD, IS HE/SHE GONNA DIE? NOT AGAIN!" I mean, at the end of MLA. I started tearing up when I saw Kasumi and she started crying. After the things she's been through. I just want to give her a hug. ;_;

And, yeah. Unlimited was hard to go through too. I mean....DEM END SONG LYRICS.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:54:17 2011 No.7265766

>>7265725
Speaking of crying at the end, was I the only one who couldn't hold it in after Yuuko finally delivers the "You've saved the Earth" line? It felt so fucking good, the very feeling of having such a huge weight lifted from your back with a short phrase like that made me cry right on the spot. Also cried like a bitch when everyone starts celebrating when your HSSF returns. Fuck man, not even Piatif could hold it in. If there's anything I did when playing that game, that was crying. Goddamn. I'm a faggot.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:54:17 2011 No.7265767

>>7265657

In retrospect, that never made much sense to me.

Why would Yuuko try to reinforce the idea that Takeru should forget Sumika? I know he was unreliable, especially when he was fresh picked from Extra, but wouldn't she want to see if he could do something to the brain somehow?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 00:58:17 2011 No.7265787

>>7265767
Considering what she said was that "There's no one like that here" after he described Extra Sumika it sort of makes sense. Remember that it wasn't until after he brought her concrete results that she even let him into some of the details of the Alternative Projects, much less into the details of Alternative IV.

>>7265725
More like ALL DEM ED LYRICS. Every one except I Will is pretty depressing in retrospect, though I can't recall what I Will's lyrics were about.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:00:17 2011 No.7265794
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Was also checking out the fandisks and stuff, and saw this on the Haruko Maniax description at VNDB:

>Additional content includes short comical side-stories about Misae and Touko's relationship, Yuuhi switching places with Meiya and the following confusion of the A01 team, a contest pitting the whole team A01 against Commander Radhabinod, and everyone's favorite hard-as-nails strategy game Akatsuki Haruka Nari 2
>a contest pitting the whole team A01 against Commander Radhabinod
>whole team A01 against Commander Radhabinod

JESUS FUCK. I NEED TO PLAY THIS SHIT NOW. OH GOD.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:03:17 2011 No.7265810 File: 755 KB, 1024x600, 1302468554165.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7265794 KNAIFUUU ATTAKUU DE AARUUUU

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:04:17 2011 No.7265817 File: 263 KB, 1024x600, ztf2p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7265810 Goddamn. I really need to play this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:07:17 2011 No.7265826 >>7265810 No, that's Radhabinod being an unstoppable Berserker who not even explosives can hurt.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:09:17 2011 No.7265833

>>7265787
>Every one except I Will is pretty depressing in retrospect, though I can't recall what I Will's lyrics were about.

It's baaaaw time.

あなたのことばかりの anata no koto bakari no
日記は続いてくよ nikki wa tsuzuiteku yo
読み返すたび　嬉しくて yomigaesu tabi, ureshikute
I keep adding to my diary,
full of nothing but you.
Rereading it always makes me happy.

ときめきも悲しみも tokimeki mo kanashimi mo
まよいも教えてくれた mayoi mo oshietekureta
どんな思い出も宝物だよ donna omoide mo takaramono dayo
You're the one who taught me how to feel
excitement, sadness, and uncertainty.
All of my memories with you are treasures.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:11:17 2011 No.7265839 >>7265833 Fucking age.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:16:17 2011 No.7265853

あなたに届けよう　この想い今すぐに anata ni todokeyou, kono omoi ima sugu ni
もう振り向かないで　扉の向こうへ mou furimukanaide, tobira no mukou e
夜空に降り続く　流れ星に祈るよ yozora ni furituzuku, nagareboshi ni inoru yo
強く抱きしめていて　ずっと忘れないように tsuyoku dakishimeteite, zutto wasurenai you ni
I want this feeling to reach you right away.
I pray to the shooting stars in the night sky that you'll
never look back again, and just go through that door.
Hold me as tight as you can, so that you'll never forget me.

あなたの微笑みは　私の勇気になる anata no hohoemi wa, watashi no yuuki ni naru
ふたりの物語　これから始まる futari no monogatari, kore kara hajimaru
輝く時間を越えて　私を連れていって kagayaku jikan wo koete, watashi wo tsureteitte
きっとみつけられるよ　いつか夢見た明日を kitto mitsukerareru yo, itsuka yume mita ashita wo
Your smile is my courage.
Our story starts here and now.
Take me beyond this shining time.
I'm sure we'll be able to find the future we dreamed of.

Damn, it's almost Sumika's telling Takeru how to succeed in Alternative.

All of these lyrics are depressing. I used to get torn up just from Songs of a Distant Earth, but Muv-Luv really hurt after Alt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:19:17 2011 No.7265865 Are any of the other games in the ML universe good and not just harem fandiscs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:28:17 2011 No.7265899 >>7265865 KGNE is good but rage worthy and depressing. Takayuki is also a faggot. I have no idea about Kimi Ga Ita Kisetsu, that's the one I've been most curious about since I beat MLA.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:34:17 2011 No.7265917 So finally a VN the majority of /jp/ agrees it's good? Well I'll be damned.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:34:17 2011 No.7265920 >>7265917 For another month or so, sure. Then everybody will troll it up and call it pretentious emoshit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 01:52:17 2011 No.7265987 >>7265917 Most of them stopped and gave up before they can finish Muv Luv Extra. Maybe in a few months after they slog through Extra and finish Alternative, we will start seeing Muv Luv Alternative - Overrated Starship Troopers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 02:33:17 2011 No.7266140 File: 35 KB, 222x320, owarinaki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7265865 Maybe Owarinaki Natsu? A moege, but apparently it's set in the universe of UL/ALT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 02:46:17 2011 No.7266161 >>7266140 Wasn't that game emo?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 02:48:17 2011 No.7266166
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>>7266140

I feel like an asshole, but I want to see those innocent lives torn apart by BETA. Even in Alternative, the only one we've seen fucked over by the BETA directly was Takeru himself. Everyone else was merely influenced by their presence, or had it happen in the past.

I desperately wanted to see what Takeru and Sumika's lives were like in Alt before the BETA came over, maybe Warin can do something about that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 02:59:17 2011 No.7266191 >>7266166 Wait, what? Where is that from? As far as I was aware, only thing Muv-luv related that got animated was Akane Maniax.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 03:03:17 2011 No.7266204

>>7266166
Well the story takes place a short while before the BETA invasion of Kyushu, and in one girl's epilogue the village they lived in was shown to be an unrecognizable swath of desolation. No points for guessing what happened.
Plus you can see a major character in age's 10th anniversary PV (around 1:25 in):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKmPtj8KMU

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 03:05:17 2011 No.7266211 >>7266191 Ayu-Mayu Gekijou. If you had watched the skit at the end of AkaMani, AMG 01 starts off with Ayu and Mayu making fun of the ML cast in not getting an anime.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 03:20:17 2011 No.7266264 >>7259152 >Euro Front Delicious Shizuka Itou voice.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 04:30:17 2011 No.7266470

Slowpoke here.I finished MLA like 3 hours ago.Extra felt like a chore so i just skimmed Sumikas route.Well,it was a bad idea since it was the superior Extra route but meh,it sucked.Unlimited was awesome.It perfectly displayed the hardship of war without showing any combat

MLA meanwhile,is the best thing i have ever read and will read.After LOGH and this,i will never be able to look at anything the same way i did.I cried like a pussy when everybody was celebrating,i cried for all the sacrifices made.It was amazing

But i am dissapointed at the ending.It made Takerus character growth seem pointless and the whole NEVER RUN AWAY was demolished when he forgot everything.Ignorance is bliss,right ? And i preferred Kasumi to Sumika so my ending for MLA will be:Takeru,utterly crushed by the death of the whole squad and Sumika realizes he will never be able to live a peaceful life - he has passed the point of no return.He would not able to look at the same people the same way he did - for they are different,but similiar.Memories make you,youAnd he does not want to forget either,for he will honour the sacrifices and deaths of all those around him.With the two worlds now moving away from each other and both will be stable when they are far away enough,Takeru should decide where to stay.And he stays here,to keep fighting.Years later at a high price humanity has destroyed the last hive in europe.Now Takeru has retired - but he is a completely mentally crushed individual. His only joys life are now Kasumi - he does not know is this love or an instinct to protect - but he wants to stay with her and seeing humanity happy and rebuilding.Now he can die in peace,knowing he did everything he could and the credits roll with Takeru looking from the hill near Yokohama base and Kasumi calling him to go home.

Now,time to study japanese properly.Nothing english translated will ever top this.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 04:39:17 2011 No.7266497

>>7266470
>Agglutinized Takeru doesn't get to decide, with the 00unit dead, Takeru can't exist in other universes. The last speech to Yuuko was particularly touching because of that, he knew he was basically "dying".
The "climax" for Takeru isn't the Extra ending, it's just before that, an individual that finally could face his death perfectly calm, compared to his IDONWANNADIE outbursts through Unlimited and Alternative.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 05:49:17 2011 No.7266597

>>7266497
HEY,LET A MAN DREAM. yeah,i know all of that,i invented my own facts to suit my imaginery ending.Only mystery to me is why Takeru could remember everything from Unlimited.As far as i understood,Sumikas knowledge does not transfer between loops or did it happen by pure chance and she made Takeru remember due to her awsum 1337 Unit 00 powers ? And i see your point.But for me the speech with Yuuko was acceptance of the end,while the climax was people celebrating victory and the death of Sumika.Now Takeru has nothing and his job is finished.He accepted everything as it is and left happy,i guess.Well, i will have to give Kasumi some love in AF.

Also,any ideas on what VN i should start reading in pure japanese ? I'm not really confident right now in my skills so i will start with some manga but when i get the hang of it i guess i'll need to move to something more complex.Any good visual novels in japanese that don't have a very complex use of the language ?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 05:54:17 2011 No.7266601

>>7266597
If you're fine with heartwarming yuri, try the Sono Hanabira series, they're pretty short and simple and are great for giving you a taste of how playing untranslated feels like. otoh, they're bland if you're not into sappy romance.
Axanael is pretty easy if you like Nitro+ weirdness, but then there's fetishes you may not like like futanari.
Just hit vndb and look for something resembling everyday slice of life that interests you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 05:57:17 2011 No.7266604 >>7266597 I heard Clannad is good for this. I'm just about to try it out myself so I don't know for certain but you might want to try it out...

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:01:17 2011 No.7266606

>>7266604
>Clannad is good for this.
It's not, really. The game is 100 hours long, and if it's your first raw game, you're going to take an absurd amount of time for each sentence, stretching it over what, 6 months?. Finishing a game is a pretty important morale booster, so I can't say I would recommend Clannad, choose something shorter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:03:17 2011 No.7266608 >>7266470 what´s logh?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:05:17 2011 No.7266609 >>7266608 Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:12:17 2011 No.7266617 >>7266609 okay thanks is it worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:12:17 2011 No.7266619 File: 57 KB, 640x480, Are you frustrated.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7266617 It's an anime. Picture very related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:13:17 2011 No.7266620 >>7266617 It's an anime.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:18:17 2011 No.7266625

Yo, I got a question.

I understand that the gravitational anomalies and all that were making Sumika subconsciously sending Takeru back into a time loop. But why in this one does he retain all his physical training and knowledge of Alternative V? I know they explained it, but I can't piece it together for the life of me.

Anyway, I think this might be my favorite VN i've read to date. My only complaints was that it sometimes got lost in its pseudoscientific jargon, and that i'm really conflicted about the rape scene. On one hand, the scene feels a little exploitave, as it seems kind of set up like tentacle rape fetish porn; it could have been handled differently and given us the same idea, and not give people with a /d/ fetish a boner. And yet, if it didn't portray it like that, i'm not sure if it would have felt as powerful to me. My jaw dropped for like 5 full fucking minutes, as the disgust for what the BETA were doing to a character i've grown to love and appreciate with that specific portrayal of pure sexual deviance just compounded like a motherfucker.And I sort of failed to see the need for Takeru not to have fully voiced dialogue. The scene where he holds Sumika's corpse in his arms after he was told everything by Kasumi on the way back home would have been even more powerful, and I nearly fucking lost it in that scene anyway.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:22:17 2011 No.7266635

>>7266625
That all said, this is most likely the best VN i've ever played. One thing i've always given KGNE credit for is the fact that it did drama REALLY well, and I feel that age has really mastered that. Age has shown with this VN that they are fucking amazing at dramatic timing. All the most poignant and shocking scenes were placed at all the right times, and always managed to hit me where it hurts; THIS is how you get people attached to characters. The game made me love every character (even that fucking whore Mitsuki ended up being incredibly likable) and I haven't felt more emotionally attached to characters like this in a long time. By the end of Takeru's Extra -> Unlimited -> Alternative trek, he really did become an amazing soldier and an amazing person; I haven't liked or felt an attachment as strong to another main character in a while.

Alternative was like a fucking awesome mix of Starship Troopers, Ender's Game and UC fucking Gundam, with that element of character drama age seems to be so good at. This is probably visually the best VN i've ever played as well, as everything feels so fluid and immersive, and the battle scenes really put you in the heat of a battle, even audiovisually, which is fucking astounding for this medium. I don't even give a shit that Alternative's choices didn't really matter much; it told the story it needed to tell, and it was sort of the point of the plot. I'm shocked that they took so much time to build up such great sci-fi, and how it not only worked but worked beautifully.

BRB, learning japanese to read the side shit. I'm serious too, i'm starting today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:32:17 2011 No.7266653 >>7266635 >fucking whore Mitsuki Butthurt Suzumiya fag detected. Suzumiya was the one that stole Bakayuki away from her and she was the one that asked Mitsuki to get them together knowing that Mitsuki like him as well.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:32:17 2011 No.7266654 >>7266597 Late reply, but you could start out with Altered Fable (haha) As far as the language goes, it's not that bad, and it's not very long either. You'll also obviously have an incentive to continue playing through it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:35:17 2011 No.7266659 >>7266653 >justifying Mitsuki's sluttiness She slept with Bakayuki's best friend. I rest my case.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:36:17 2011 No.7266661 >>7266659 He did the same thing to her way earlier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:37:17 2011 No.7266663 >>7266659 That only happen in the anime and certain routes when you as the reader picked dumb choices.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:39:17 2011 No.7266671 >>7266661 Not while they were DATING >>7266663 >dumb choices >Haruka's route oh u

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:39:17 2011 No.7266672

>>7266653
Guy who did that post here.

I was a Haruka-fag. And I was buttranged and assfrustrated. But you know what? Alternative made it all OK. All of Mitsuki's being a loathesome whore has been completely canceled out. I will note that I hated Bakayuki more than her though. He wasn't cool enough for Alternative.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:42:17 2011 No.7266676 >>7266672 KGNE Bakayuki is a faggot, but don't hate on him in MLA He died for their Yokohama base

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:42:17 2011 No.7266677 >>7266619 it´s an anime adaption based on novels

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 06:46:17 2011 No.7266684 >>7266676 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKmPtj8KMU And true to his name, what a dumb way to go. Charging in to die when told to evacuate. They need to rerelease KGNE with a Sumika's ideal world route where the accident didnt happen.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 07:11:17 2011 No.7266736
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>>7257096

Mel is lovely, nice to see she's getting her own game.

Overall I enjoyed TDA 00. I especially liked how they go out of their way to make you complacent and then hit you with a BETA attack. It happened just when I was starting to think the scenario was kind of boring without any TSF fighting.

Unfortunately, my least favorite character (Lillia) is the only one who apparently survives. Will wasn't so bad compared to other age MCs. Though we'll get to see more of Marimo (returned to being an eishi, now a major!) in TDA 01.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 08:08:17 2011 No.7266847

>>7266625
>first spoiler

Willpower influences experience in the loop, and in that particular case Takeru's powerful desire to redo everything with prior knowledge after losing the Unlimited heroine allowed him to retain his training and knowledge. You'll notice the first thing he does when he loops is cry, then have a deja vu feeling when he sees Meiya.

>second spoiler

Scene is shitty, but you can see what age was going for there. If it wasn't silly, you'd hold it against Sumika. But if it wasn't traumatic, you wouldn't get why she was in so much shame.

My only complaint is the inflation thing. They could have kept it alien but had to do stupid shit like that and give the impression the BETA are pervs instead of scientific aliens.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 08:20:17 2011 No.7266874

>>7266470
>the whole NEVER RUN AWAY was demolished when he forgot everything.

Even though he's incredibly mature by the end of Alternative, you saw what happened when he went to the Extra Branch. There's no way he could have been at peace without getting wiped like that. I and pretty much everyone else who has beaten the game agree that it's a shame that all of those hard-learned lessons Takeru went through in Alt seem to have gone to waste, but him growing up was what made the Kashgar infiltration a success and allowed him to go with dignity. On top of that, he matures at the end of each Extra route and Unlimited too, it happens once he finds a woman and was only delayed in Alt because his woman was tough to find. Sure, it's not as deep a maturity but it's sufficient for the scenario. You don't cling to life lessons you learned in the horrors of war.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 08:22:17 2011 No.7266878 >>7266847 >scientific aliens They were researching ways of giving maximun pleasure to carbon base lifeform.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 08:24:17 2011 No.7266883

>>7266617
WELL, there are the LOGH novels and i believe the anime is adapted from that but since its 110 episodes long + a lot of movies i seriously doubt they forgot to put anything in and made a 100% complete adaptation with nothing changed or missing. So just watch the anime.
>>7266601
Thanks,i'll try out the yuri one.Who on earth would possibly NOT love yuri ?

And i see there are lot of people who starting learning the language after reading MLA.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 08:34:17 2011 No.7266898

>>7266883
I used to like yuri a lot when I was younger (partially because I was one of those typical insecure teenagers that didn't like looking at a guy's dick, so lesbian stuff seemed a convenient way around that) but I find it kind of boring lately for some reason. I guess I just feel I can't connect with it on the same level as I can a heterosexual romance.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 09:03:17 2011 No.7266965 >>7266883 Sono Hanabira Downloads http://listlessink.wordpress.com/sono-hanabira-ni-kuchizuke-wo-series/ Have fun

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 09:51:17 2011 No.7267081 Takeru was God Tier in Unlimited and Alternative because he knew video game attacks, right? How broken would Ayamine (in her route she easily beats Takeru) and Mikoto (this one's obvious) be if they went to the UL and ALT world?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 11:06:17 2011 No.7267205

>>7267081

Ayamine and Mikoto were not actually better pilots than Takeru, they were able to anticipate his moves very well. It's the same for when Takeru beat Meiya in hand to hand early in Alternative. Predictability was a big reason why the vastly inferior human race could survive 25 years against the BETA.

Even without the control ideas from Extra, Takeru would have been a pilot on Sagiri's level, but probably not a steel god of mass destruction. And even then, it was partially because the technology was able to meet his demands - even Amuro Ray eventually found himself held back by his own Gundam.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 11:09:17 2011 No.7267211

>>7267081

Its was party that, but also the fact he had looped so many times in previous worlds where he fought and trained to be a pilot so by the time he gets to Alt hes technically already ace level reflexes and instincts to pilot but he is only a step away from a mental breakdown from all the trauma hes revived.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 11:52:17 2011 No.7267273

>>7266878
>They were researching ways of giving maximun pleasure to carbon base lifeform.
which makes no real sense, since to beta carbon-based lifeforms are materials to be recycled.

humans don't research how to pleasure plastic bottles or leftover sandwiches.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 11:55:17 2011 No.7267275

>>7267273
He was joking I think.
They were just testing how the human brain reacted to particular stimuli, which in Sumika's case happened to be how we feel sexual pleasure. I'd guess other people were given the same treatment but to study pain and so on.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:02:17 2011 No.7267283

>>7267081
In his loops in Unlimited he found the TSF controls similar to his Valgernon game, so he was able to adapt to them much faster than the rest of his squad. He is so good in Alternative because his TSF experience in the 2 years post Unlimited ending carried over. He is literally 3 years older in Alternative and he mentions that alot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:07:17 2011 No.7267293 >>7267283 >He is literally 3 years older considering all the time skips in unlimited wouldn't that make it 3 years per route = 15+ years older

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:15:17 2011 No.7267303 >>7267293 but he only remembers 3 years with slight alterations.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:21:17 2011 No.7267319 >>7267303 If we assume he's 18 at the end of Extra, he's 21 at the end of Unlimited, and his 21 year old self gets sent to Alternative. Hence why he's ripped and why Mikoto seems to think he's taller.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:21:17 2011 No.7267320

>>7266736
Personally to me, Will is probably the worst, for one reason alone, they kept showing him despite him being completely unvoiced and that was pretty creepy to me for some reason.
Though, other than that and some of his pretty bad looking sprites, he was a pretty cool guy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:26:17 2011 No.7267339 File: 105 KB, 1000x1000, 1302121423994.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why are Haruka and Mitsuki better in Alternative than KimiNozo, while the Muv-Luv cast better in Extra than in Alternative?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:26:38 2011 No.7267341 [DELETED]

This reminds me, the one question that I DID have regarding the loops was what actually happened that made the Alt loop different from all the Unlimited ones? Why did Takeru remember all of at least one (?) unlimited loop when Alternative started, and why was his body still in shape, especially if we can presume that his body reset every other Unlimited route.

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Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:28:17 2011 No.7267346

>>7267273
Think about it, we research how the weather works, right? We research how some chemicals work together. That's what they were doing in their eyes (I think. The Superior saw them as equal 'creatures' so it doesn't completely make sense unless they originally did it to each other). They were probably doing more then 'pleasuring' humans. They were probably also messing with other bodily reactions like pain and hunger and shit by stimulating the nerves to there highest possible effect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 12:30:17 2011 No.7267352 >>7267341 He felt so much regret (willpower) at losing the Unlimited heroine (Meiya) in the Normal Ending that he retained all of his memories (well, Sumika erased quite a bit of it) and abilities.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:51:17 2011 No.7268566 File: 95 KB, 1024x768, ポ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I fucking love me some Ayamine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:55:17 2011 No.7268578 File: 149 KB, 409x600, 1295670907499.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So will the next age game focus around Takeru's daughter? I wonder how time-space would deal with that? Maybe she can slip across parallel worlds at will?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 19:58:17 2011 No.7268583 >>7268578 >I wonder how time-space would deal with that? Maybe she can slip across parallel worlds at will? Did you even read Alternative? Seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:03:17 2011 No.7268597 >>7268583 Her father is a time-space anomale, plus she was gestating in a G-Bombed area with gravity distortion. Less shit than that gave us New Types.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:07:17 2011 No.7268620 >>7268597 Yeah and? None of that is anywhere close to what made Takeru into what he was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:16:17 2011 No.7268661 >>7268566 Why is Munakata so sexy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:37:17 2011 No.7268740 File: 1.39 MB, 1920x1200, 110_1920-1200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7268661 She and Toukou look like they're babes from the 1980's. I can't explain it, but all the Kimi Ga Ita Kisetsu girls have that old fashioned look.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:46:17 2011 No.7268774 >>7268661 does she ever see her boyfriend again?

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 20:55:17 2011 No.7268802

Would someone mind reminding me how many 'Episodes' are in Alternative?
I'm on Episode 9 and I've finally gotten to the main section of the Sadogashima arc (the battle itself taking place) so I was wondering how far I am through the VN.
And does it improve dramatically from here? Because at this point, despite a couple of awesome scenes (just retrieved the Unit), it's still difficult to understand the immense praise it receives.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:01:17 2011 No.7268820 >>7268802 11 Total Counting the epilogue. And you've got about 10-15 more hours to go.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:02:17 2011 No.7268823 File: 40 KB, 640x480, RE10_03A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this Munakata?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:09:17 2011 No.7268839 >>7268661 Dat Asakawa Yuu voice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:15:17 2011 No.7268859 >>7268802 Just for the record, what's your favorite VN so far?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:17:17 2011 No.7268867 >>7268740 is it just me or do most of their legs seem horrible? I guess they didn't need to put much effort into the legs seeing as you will never see them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:20:17 2011 No.7268874 >>7268859 He's probably going to say Umineko and Higurashi Kai

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:39:17 2011 No.7268932

>>7268859
Cross Channel, by a fair margin. My most anticipated VN is Saihate no Ima whenever Ixrec gets to it. Also looking forward to YU-NO.

I'm not going to determine an order but others I really enjoyed include Umineko, Sharin, Tsukihime, Planetarian, Kikokugai, Sekien no Inganock (a bit too episodic though) and probably even Fate/Stay Night (dragged frequently but there were a lot of awesome moments).
Swan Song was really good but I was let down by overestimating it. I found there were only a few scenes where the writing really shined.
Besides Kirari's endings, I found KiraKira way overhyped.
Aoishiro was consistently decent but uninspired.

There's a bunch of stuff I still need to read/finish though. I'm sure I'll love Ever17 (or the final route) when I continue it. Same with Symphonic Rain. And I expect Chaos;Head to be pretty good. I'm halfway through Remember11 and near the end of Episode 4 of G-Senjou - which I've felt letdown by in comparison to Sharin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:46:17 2011 No.7268952 so can someone explain why squad 207 was no longer politically useful after the coup? I didn't really understand any of the political shit in the game.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:47:17 2011 No.7268955

>>7268932
Fair enough. Cross Channel was my favorite VN too, before I played Alternative.
Then again, for me, Alternative is honestly light years better than CC. Seriously, I don't care if I'm overhyping it or being exaggerated - I doubt there's an english translated VN that even comes close to a fraction of how good Alternative was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:49:17 2011 No.7268960 >>7268932 >Cross Channel >Umineko >Sharin You don't like plot or themes, but like characters and melodrama. You'll probably like the post-Sadogashima scenes of MLA but feel nothing toward the rest.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:55:17 2011 No.7268982

>>7268952
Well,
Chizuru's father was dead.
There was a chance Meiya's usefulness as "another" Yuuhi was discovered.
That man with impeccable style was missing, so Mikoto couldn't be used as a tool if he's not there.
The people that Ayamine could've been used to influence were mostly killed in the Coup.
And I can't remember about Tama.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:57:17 2011 No.7268990

>>7268932
>Umineko, Sharin, Tsukihime, Planetarian, Kikokugai, Sekien no Inganock (a bit too episodic though) and probably even Fate/Stay Night (dragged frequently but there were a lot of awesome moments).
>umiunko
>kikokugai
>ignanock
>fsn
I am not saying that they are bad, but comparing them to MLA is an insult.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 21:57:17 2011 No.7268991

>>7268952
>so can someone explain why squad 207 was no longer politically useful after the coup?

1. Meiya's existence was leaked to the Americans, so if they abduct her they can exert pressure on the Japanese government. It's much better to promote her to the suicidal A-01 and hope she dies so that never happens.

2. Chiruzu's dad is dead and his administration disbanded so she no longer has any political connections to current imperial gov.

3. Yoroi Sakon is suspected of espionage against the UN, his daughter is a potential liability as long as she's stationed on base. Better to kill her off.

4. Undersecretary Tamase is distrusted by the Imperial gov because they believe he had a hand in the coup (he probably did, and the pro-Alt V HSST incident too), again his daughter could be a threat if she stayed on base.

5. Ayamine was Sagiri's fiancee, she could potentially rally the coup supporters again. Better kill her off before she gets the chance.

"political value" is misleading, basically the imperial gov didn't want the kids of high profile Japanese getting butchered for Alternative IV. But the coup gave the UN and/or Imperial Government a reason to want to dispose of Squad 207.

I think Takeru is probably the only one of that group who was promoted without an ulterior motive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 22:37:17 2011 No.7269121 >>7268991 Spoilers bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:03:17 2011 No.7269174 >>7269121 you shouldn't even be in this thread if you haven't finished there is no way in hell you can trust anons to use spoilers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:19:17 2011 No.7269190 >>7269121 >>7269174 >big post >don't read it

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:21:17 2011 No.7269192 >>7269174 People can also glance past the thread when they scroll down the board. That's how I got spoiled in G-Senjou three or so months ago. Not that that post in particular really bothers me, though, since I just finished the Coup d'état arc.

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:27:17 2011 No.7269199
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>>7268566

Oh shit son, found me a bro. I remember when I first played extra. I was all like. "Gonna only do Meiya's route because she's cool guy, and doesn't afraid of anything". And then saw me some Ayamine. And was like "DAYUM. DAT KUUDERE"

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:30:17 2011 No.7269206 >>7269199 I'm sorry, even though I love Ayamine, her silly antics and awesome tits, Chizuru is still my favorite girl.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:32:17 2011 No.7269215 Just curious, but is there any music from Supplement floating around? Just finished it and Alternative and wanted to get all the music before I forgot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:38:17 2011 No.7269220 File: 61 KB, 1025x599, ま.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269206 Forgot my picture.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:41:17 2011 No.7269231 File: 1.07 MB, 1536x1152, ML_Sakaki_Goodbye_Forever.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269206 >Chizuru is still my favorite girl. Good to see one of my own kind, we're a rare breed. Though I think Tama fans are probably even rarer.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:43:17 2011 No.7269248 >>7269215 No. You will never get the MGS Parody song, the catchy ED, the tear inducing omake mode them, or anything else short of recording them yourself. Though, Muvluv Duelist's OP is on SONGS FROM age 2.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:44:17 2011 No.7269256 >>7269231 I thought Tama was pretty well-liked?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:45:17 2011 No.7269260 File: 88 KB, 802x600, FWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269231 I love Tama the most, but I've only ever played Extra.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:45:17 2011 No.7269261 >>7269231 Tell me about it. Especially here in /jp/, where meganekko characters are hated to death, I definitely wasn't counting on another Chizuru fan besides me. Actually, what was /jp/'s favorite Muv-luv heroine?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:47:17 2011 No.7269268 >>7269261 For me it was: Sumika > Meiya > Tama > Ayamine > Mikoto > Class Rep

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:48:17 2011 No.7269270 >>7269248 Well that sucks, better get some audacity than. >>7269261 I would say Kasumi, cause she would easily fit in the Touhou universe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:49:17 2011 No.7269272 File: 132 KB, 579x348, well they are pretty big.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269261 Tama, with Ayamine in a close second.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:49:17 2011 No.7269273 >>7269261 I'd say Meiya has the most fans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:52:17 2011 No.7269279 >>7269261 Sumika > Meiya > Yuuhi > Marimo > Yuuko > Kasumi > Tama > Mikoto > Kei > Chizuru i'd rather fuck a beta than chizuru

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:53:17 2011 No.7269286 >>7269248 Recording the MGS parody BGM right now because what the hell. Will throw it up on MF when done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:53:17 2011 No.7269287 >>7269260 >I've only ever played Extra （　´_ゝ`） What are you doing on /jp/ then? Go play Unlimited and Alternative!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:56:17 2011 No.7269299 >>7269286 You are saint among men

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:56:17 2011 No.7269301

Hmmm. Starting Extra I was initially thinking from the art 'well, staying away from that blue haired girl, that hair looks absolutely stupid'. Then I started playing, and Sumika drove me nuts. Meiya, on the other hand... the end of Extra endeared Sumika to me a little bit, but man every installment made me more and more attached to Meiya.

So I'd say Meiya>Chizuru>Ayamine>daylight>Mikoto>Tama>Sumika. Not sure where the other girls fit into that... probably somewhere in that daylight.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:57:17 2011 No.7269308 File: 15 KB, 233x253, Tamasmug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269287 I just haven't worked up to it yet for some reason. I have all this stuff on my computer to read, but I don't have the will to get reading~

Anonymous Sun Apr 24 23:58:17 2011 No.7269311

>>7269268

For me it's a Schrodinger's Cat scenario between Meiya and Sumika, then > Chizuru > Kasumi > Mikoto > Ayamine > Tama

My main beef with Ayamine, Tama, and Mikoto is they're the most child-like of the cast, and consequently have the least depth even in MLA. I know MLA was about them maturing, but it felt a lot more concrete for Chizuru: she had responsibility, rejected it, and subsequently lost everything, and so found new meaning in the ashes of her old life. Right before Kashgar, she even expressed a dream and hope for the future, something Mikoto and Ayamine didn't have. Tama had one following the coup but it wasn't touched on again.

I expected more out of Ayamine in particular. As the only one of the cast except Takeru who was in a relationship, I'd have thought she'd have a more mature attitude toward romance. Then again I haven't played MLA with her scenes so I dunno how far age went with her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:00:17 2011 No.7269316 >>7269286 http://www.mediafire.com/?p7b91iiqgdhwn32

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:00:17 2011 No.7269324

Bro-fist anon here:

For me it's: Ayamine > Meiya > Yuuhi > Class Rep > Sumika > Mikoto (Hey, she's cute. As long as she stays a girl in future universes as well .)> Tama.

>>7269206

And, I kinda liked Class Rep too. But, Ayamine is still my favorite by far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:02:17 2011 No.7269327 >>7269316 Just a note, the name is just something I found fitting. No BGM mode in Supplement to confirm the actual track title. Anyone want me to record the Sumika After ED while I'm at it?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:02:17 2011 No.7269334 >>7269316 I played supplement, but I don't remember this song. Anyone care to remind me the scene?

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:03:17 2011 No.7269335

>>7269261
>Actually, what was /jp/'s favorite Muv-luv heroine?

Meiya is easily a #1 or #2 character. She's the most mature of the group and had a great relationship with Takeru. Sumika is also a #1 or #2 if she won over the reader, but judging from a lot of /jp/ opinions she usually didn't.

After that, opinions are going to split, but I'd say Yuuko. Yuuko was fucking awesome. You hate her one minute, hate her the next, but by the end you respect the hell out of her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:04:17 2011 No.7269340 >>7269311 Alternative kind of needed characters like that IMO. With all the fucked up stuff that happens after and during the Coup d'état arc, the story needed a few lighthearted characters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:05:17 2011 No.7269341 >>7269334 When Sumika and co are sort of avoiding Takeru to help her with preparations for Valentines Day and he decides to try and follow them, only to be found by Marimo who he essentially begins to start choking and then found by Yuuko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:10:17 2011 No.7269356 >>7269340 >With all the fucked up stuff that happens after and during the Coup d'état arc, the story needed a few lighthearted characters. Mitsuki and Munakata.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:11:17 2011 No.7269357

>>7269311

Ayamine changes quite a bit if you do her scenes. She addresses a lot of her problems in the letter you get at the end if you did her choices. And resolves to become more like Takeru,. But in all honesty. I liked Ayamine because she was like that in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:15:17 2011 No.7269370 >>7269261 Munakata > Munakata > Misae > Munakata > Munakata.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:15:17 2011 No.7269371 >>7269335 She won me over; I really loved her ever since Extra. Her and Takeru had such a charming relationship.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:16:17 2011 No.7269375 File: 16 KB, 800x600, supplementEDtitle.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can anyone type out the title in the brackets for me? It's the title of Supplements ED and I can't quite make it out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:23:17 2011 No.7269383 File: 52 KB, 380x427, 1285401495501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7269375 桜の花が咲くまえに。

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:27:17 2011 No.7269404 >>7269383 Wow, I should have noticed it was the same as that segment. Anyway, here's the ED. http://www.mediafire.com/?krbylr11afn4k96

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:31:17 2011 No.7269418 File: 863 KB, 1141x1974, 1302996314010.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] meiya is so much better than everyone else I can't even understand other opinions. she quickly became my #1 favorite heroine in any medium.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:33:17 2011 No.7269429 >>7269418 I didn't really like her in Extra. Her (short) route was pretty ridiculous and the sex scene came out of nowhere. Unlimited is what really made me like her, though, but by the time I got to Alternative I was starting to miss Sumika.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:35:17 2011 No.7269438 >>7269357 What letter are we talking about? I don't remember getting a letter at all.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:37:17 2011 No.7269445

>>7269429
I actually was trying to not like her at first because I wanted to do sumika's route first, but it was pretty much impossible as the game went on. her sex scene was the only one I actually liked in the entire trilogy too, probably because I have a wedding dress fetish.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:44:17 2011 No.7269468

>>7269418
At first before playing I thought I would hate Meiya, and only really care about Sumika.
How wrong I was. How wrong I was.
When it came to the first major choice between the two, I just froze for a bit unable to choose.
Even now, I can't do it. I'm terrified of AF, especially as it introduces Yuuhi and Kasumi into the mix. I don't think I'll be able to choose at all between the 4, which is why I've put it off for several weeks now.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:47:17 2011 No.7269473

>>7269429
Short? Her shared route with Sumika takes up a good portion of the game.

>>7269261
Before MLA came out it seemed like Sumika and Kasumi were /jp/ favorites. /m/ usually has parallel ML threads with /jp/ and Meiya is more or less the most liked heroine there.

For myself it's:
Meiya=Yuuhi > Ayamine > Haruko > Kasumi > Tama > Sumika > Chizuru

Not a big Sumika fan, even after MLA.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:49:17 2011 No.7269478 So, am I the only one who muted the game's BGM and began to play Ride of the Valkyries during the orbital drop scene onto Kashgar?I practically destroyed by pants by how much I jizzed everywhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 00:55:17 2011 No.7269490 >>7269478 I honestly don't even remember the song. was it the starship troopers ripoff one?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 01:19:17 2011 No.7269568 >>7269404 Speaking of ED, who all is singing the ending song for the card battle segment of that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 03:43:17 2011 No.7270017 >>7269478 >muted the game's BGM You didn't even have to do it at that part, the SFX was so loud. Too bad, since the song is awesome as fuck and doesn't play at any other time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 04:16:17 2011 No.7270162 seems like no one here liked mikoto i thought she was the only one who tried to welcome Takeru into the squad from the start (in unlimited). Nnone of that happened in MLA though

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 04:28:17 2011 No.7270219

My fav was Kasumi cause i've got a weakness for soulless lolis with bunny ears.

For number 2 -now pre-MLA it would be Meiya but after finishing the game i saw Sumika as a completely different person. I sort of hated her before then.

As for the rest i don't really have any favourites.They all felt like friends and comrades to me and even the thought of favourites kinda did not come to my mind.

Anonymous Mon Apr 25 06:06:17 2011 No.7270488

Yuuko is my favorite by far. None of the normal main girls were on her level in my opinion.
>>7268932
Frankly, I don't think you should be looking forward to yu-no if you abandoned all those eroges. It's an adventure game and you seem to be the type without any patience whatsoever to finish great eroges, so I can't imagine commanding you through an adventure game interface for 30+ hours until you reach the last chapter where you may finally get answers and see why it's amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 06:47:17 2011 No.7270557 New thread?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 08:13:17 2011 No.7270740 >>7270162 >seems like no one here liked mikoto Mikoto was a bro in Extra, I missed her being a boy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 25 09:05:17 2011 No.7270842 >>7269568 I dunno. Never gotten that far.

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