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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422595.stm

Hay guys did we have a thread about this yet

>> No.717033

Nope, definitely not.

>> No.717037

>>717030
Good thing I'm not a britfag. I already heard, though.

>> No.717041

Need more Moetan pictures.

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>>717041
Can't argue with that.

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>> No.717072

Did Moetan ever get more subs?

>> No.717082

>>717072
I havent been keeping up with it for the past few months, but lolidan is at ep7, so I'm assuming no.

>> No.717083

>>The government has acknowledged that paedophiles may be circumventing the law by using computer technology to manipulate real photographs or videos of abuse into drawings or cartoons.

>>Ms Eagle said the plans were "not about criminalising art or pornographic cartoons more generally, but about targeting obscene, and often very realistic, images of child sexual abuse which have no place in our society".

Can it really be applied to manga styled drawings?

>> No.717085

MBT picked it up, ep 9 was released the other day. Lolidan got around to releasing something too when they realized somebody else was on it.

>> No.717088

>>717083
Read a bit further. It says that anything drawn is against the law too.

>> No.717119

I like the way the West persecutes pedophiles as if on a modern-day witch hunt.
Did it ever occur to anyone that if you take away their fake porn, they're more likely to ACTUALLY molest children?

>> No.717126

Time to migrate to a better porn solution, it seems.

>> No.717131

>>717030

It's a good thing we don't have such images right? Oh wait..

>> No.717138

>>717119
The persecution is not rational, they make too many emotional appeals and tough talk to be handling this rationally.

>> No.717141

Like I said on /a/, I really hate when people refer to drawings as a "loophole" as if the purpose of making CP illegal is to piss of pedophiles rather than actually protect children involved.

>> No.717152

Like I said on /a/, I really hate when people refer to drawings as a "loophole" as if the purpose of making CP illegal is to piss off pedophiles rather than actually protect children involved.

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>>717152

>> No.717188

>>717119
Yes. Perhaps if we call them "pedophobes" they'll be scared and eventually loli will get accepted?

You know, that's what fags did with "homophobe".

>> No.717195

>>717188
That's exactly what it is, though. It's not like pedophiles CHOOSE to have their entire sexuality revolve around a societal taboo. Who the hell would make such a choice?

>> No.717196

>Did it ever occur to anyone that if you take away their fake porn, they're more likely to ACTUALLY molest children?
True: I find that children are a lot more PIG DISGUSTING than I thought before loli, 4chin, etc.

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>>717030

>> No.717215

>Computer generated

Does not apply to lolikon.

>> No.717217

http://rapidshare.com/files/118562277/magical_busters.rar.html

didn't immediately see this on rs. so I upped it

>> No.717218

>>717030
Yeah, we actually had a thread like this midday yesterday. The Brits here were all sad and we Americans were ranting on how aweseome the US Supreme Court is for protecting loli porn under the First Amendment.

>> No.717225

Cool because prohibition of unwanted items has always worked.

And this is before we even mention the internet.

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Hi guys, what's going on here?

>> No.717235

Also whenever someone uses the two words "protecting" and "children" in the same sentence I prompty switch off to what they are saying and regard it as mindless garbage.

The more people who do this the better the power of libertarianism will be in this world.

>> No.717244

>>717083
would ms paint of a stick figure child being fucked by a giant floating penis count?

>> No.717254

Anyone else find it funny how the eurofags still keep on bringing up the Patriot Act and saying that the U.S has even less freedoms than them?

>> No.717258

>>717254
Don't equate UK with Europe.

>> No.717284

I don't get how this is going to be enforcable. Am I going to go to jail for clicking on /jp/?

>> No.717289

>>717254
The Patriot Act doesn't give the the people less freedoms; it gives the government more freedom to masturbate to your miserable lives.

>> No.717294

It really makes you wonder how simple minded humans are.

Reminds me of the "joke" comment in Sweden about how every male should pay rape tax just because they were the majority that were charged with rape.

Punishing a group just because individuals are dumb is just plain wrong.

>> No.717315

>>717294

fortinuate that we aren't humans then

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>>717294
>>Reminds me of the "joke" comment in Sweden about how every male should pay rape tax just because they were the majority that were charged with rape.

THEY WEREN'T JOKING.

>> No.717369

>>717294
I giggled like a schoolgirl.

>> No.717370

>>717217
hawt

>> No.717397

like how its enforcable in Canada

amirite

>> No.717425

>>717358

Correct, it was actually proposed by crazy feminazies.

>> No.717469

The superiority of the US

>'visual depiction of an actual minor'

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i166e2aeceb59a4e1f1017b114f9dbeec

>> No.717529

I think they miss the point about why real CP is bad in the first place. Usually the children are exploited by their ignorance and forced to be a sex object long before they even understand the concept of sex. This leads to a lifetime of psychological and emotional problems which I don't need to add how horrible that is. Drawn CP may, in fact, be a loophole for pedophiles, but who are they hurting? If anything, it shows a certain respect for young children. Whether consciously or subconsciously, they can tell that real CP is morally wrong and find ways that are moral and still compliments their fetish. Before you know it, men are going to have to have their dicks cut off at birth so they don't have an outlet for their sexual desires since they are the cause of so many problems.

Actually, now that I think of it, in the future where men have no penises, there will be a government run facility called the 'Penis Clinic'. Couples will go there and the man will have a robotic penis attached where his member would have been. The halls would be lined with heavy wooden doors and sound proof rooms. Inside the rooms men would be doing all the dirty things they could with their fake penis only to find that after an hour their fake penis would fall off and they would have to return it to the front desk so it could be washed and given to another man. Man, the future sure is looking good.

>> No.717536

>>717529
dystopian do not want

>> No.717604

>>717529
wat.

>> No.717624

>>717529
>robotic penis
AWESOME!

>> No.717631

>>717529
Will everyone be female in the future?

>> No.717637

>>717529
wow, we have to pay money to fap?

>> No.717643

>>717631
Far enough into the future we'll probably use technology to eliminate gender altogether and just use clones.
I suppose technically they'd be female, but not as we know females today.

>> No.717654

>>717083
>

>>Ms Eagle said the plans were "not about criminalising art or pornographic cartoons more generally, but about targeting obscene, and often very realistic, images of child sexual abuse which have no place in our society".

This bit makes me think not. I don't think lolis count as 'realistic'. It's been said before, but it's unlikely that the police would take your computer away unless you got accused of child molestation.

tl;dr: Lolis are not realistic, nothing wrong here.

>> No.717669

>>717030
>it is legal to own drawings and computer-generated images.

well that's a load off my shoulders.

>> No.717698

>>717654

when you have moralist driven reasoning behind these laws no one is going to look at your kiddy porn and decide if it's too unrealistic for them to get offended over it.

>> No.717748

>The government has acknowledged that paedophiles may be circumventing the law by using computer technology to manipulate real photographs or videos of abuse into drawings or cartoons.
>manipulate real photographs or videos of abuse into drawings or cartoons

This seems to be what they're worried about most. I don't think they care about lolicon that isn't based of actual photos.

>> No.717760

In the OP link, I saw this at the bottom.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7425450.stm

EMO KIDS. Nice kids or dangerous cult?

>> No.717776

>>717760
Let them ban emos, for once they'd actually ban something worth banning.

>> No.717787

>>717748

Every single person who seems to support this law sounds like the kind of person I wouldn't dare show my loli collection to. Do you really think you can draw lines where the wording of this particular law ends?

What if the prosecution wants to put the origin of your cartoons into debate in a courtroom, are you comfortable with having your porn displayed while you try to say with a straight face that it is not harming any children?

I am no pedo apologist and I scoff as the effectivness of these laws but it's dangerous thinking to say "relax guys, that last bullet missed our head by a good few inches the shooter clearly was aiming for something else"."

>> No.717894

add it to the 'violent looking' porn that is also illegal now, i wonder how long it will be untill all porn is illegal

>> No.717909

>>717894
I give it a decade, at best. Fucking soccer mom socialist asshats.

>> No.717910

It's not truly pedophlia. You can say it's just a complex you've gotten due to the fact your parents never gave you a little sister.

Well, that's the case with me, anyway...

>> No.717914

>>717910
I have two little sisters and I still like loli. Do I have no excuse?

>> No.717925

>>717914
It's their fault. Are they attractive?

>> No.717944

>>717925
Can't really say so.

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It's talking about people who take real CP and shop it into looking like a painting etc.

Not 2d-lolis per se

>> No.718000

>>717951
The people behind these laws do not give a shit whether it covers only their intended target; people who like loli are an easy target anyway. The parallels that people naturally draw between loli and CP are sufficient that they can group both into the same category anyway.

Nobody is going to come to our defense without having their motives questioned quite heavily by the media. By that, I mean that the media will run the person's name through the mud and then lay them out for the lynch mob.

>> No.719627

>>717358
Oh wow, that is pretty dumb.

>> No.719649

I think this applies to the poser (you know the 3d rendering software) fags really

>> No.720170

>>717951
Guys, you're starting to get idealistic. That's what one line says, but that's their description of why they decided to define the law like so. In speaking of the actual law:

>drawings or computer-generated images of child abuse are as unacceptable as a photograph.

>people actively seeking out, creating or sharing images of young children being abused represent a potentially significant risk.
(note he says images, not photographs)

Still feel safe saying "but this wasn't edited from real cp!"?

>> No.720298

>>720170
The answer is no.

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>>717041
remains correct.

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POP draws such delicious lolis. His rendition of Vivio is awesome.

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>> No.720375

>>717195
Well, no, we did, but now it's hard to break the habit. (3D pig disgusting etc.)

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>> No.720412

I guess we did. This just shows even people who went through college can still act like retards.

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>http://rapidshare.com/files/118562277/magical_busters.rar.html
has tentacles, cloth dissolving slime and this.

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>> No.720440

>>720429
Thank you, I've been wanting to see a doujin with Sumi in it.

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Good thinking there, Sumi.

>> No.720461

How the hell would they catch people?

Most of the loli stuff any of us would download would be in a rar and from rapidshare.

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>> No.720462

>>720429
Wa wa wa wasuremono... UOOOOHG!

>> No.720489

everything is about small increments in taking peoples civil liberties away.

>> No.720493

So, uhh... one more thing I do regularly that becomes slightly more illegal than it already is. Besides the warezing, and the pot I smoke, and the hacker tools, and the animal pornography (purely for shock purposes, I promise), and the videos where yanks get beheaded and the copy of the Koran I've got and uhh lots of terrorist materials too. So instead of 20 years I'll get 25 years.

Too bad I'm using strong encryption. Ha ha.

>> No.720500

>>720461
This is about having SOMETHING to pin on someone that they suspect of being a pedo. Catch pedo. Cannot find CP. CAN find drawings of simulated CP. Busted!

>> No.720510

>>720493
Wow, I wish I was as cool and leet as you.

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>> No.720547

brb downloading pornographic drawings of young children being sexually abused

>> No.720550

>>720429
>Uoh!
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2062308

I feel like such a faggot for grinning at little references like that.

>> No.720570

>>720493
How the hell did you encrypt a physical copy of the Koran?

>> No.720583

>>720570
Flushed it down the toilet a couple times probably

>> No.720584

>>720570
Rolled it up the wrong way and stuck a post-it with "BIBUL" written on it to it.

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>>720547
STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM!

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Educational not pedo.

>> No.720597

>>720429
Hmm I can't open any of the four zip files, they must be corrupted.

>> No.720604

>>720583
That would be equivalent to making a password by setting your keyboard to korean and hitting random keys, i.e. somewhat irreversible.

>> No.720607

>>720592
[x] Pay the fine.

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>> No.720613

>>720597
They're not, worked fine in 7za for me. The dir names are ghost characters though.

>> No.720614

I'm not a britfag, so why should i care?

>> No.720617

>>720614
Precedent will be created.

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>>720614
You can point and laugh.

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>>720651

>> No.723548

>>720592
I would commit crimes all the time if law enforcement was as effective as they are.

>> No.723571

>>720952
Oh look, it's a room full of mai waifus!

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