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[Anonymous No.]

I do not understand why I reinstalled this game. I do not understand why. It's fucking RAGE WORTHY. Goddamn it.

I'm trying to go through 1 star as fast as I can to gain as many points possible. I've never done it before. I've won all routes once so I had 20 points to start s I used those to choose Uesugi house. Great, I have Kenshin and Ai. I pressed west because 1. I hate fighting against Takeda's blitz and 2. I want to get through to where the bridge battle and end of the game are. While in the middle of fighting Mori the demon army showed up and conquered them first. No maids for me. All I've got that's decent is Takuga house.

Now, after TWELVE fucking turns I've taken one territory from the demon army, ONE. At this rate I'm going to lose my opportunity to gain any points at all. I CAN'T BEAT THE FUCKING SHIMAZU BROTHERS! Fucking Xavier attacks twice per turn. I attack a territory and if I manage to win I have to defend twice and I'm going to lose once against those fucking Shimazus so it's a zero sum game.

Abusing operation permits DID NOT WORK. They didn't give them to me until turn 60 and they took them away from me at turn 68. All I accomplished was retaking lost parts of territories which is what operation permits prioritize.

So now here it is, twelve turns later and I can't beat these fucking assholes. How much longer do I have to suffer through these people before they die? If they don't die I can't win and without operation permits I'll slowly lose territory until game over.

Why does Gon have less than 1000 troops? Because FUCKING INFECTED KILLED THEM ALL. I can't even afford to buy troops anymore. Why am I even USING him? Because my better Footmen are out of combat from stupid shitty infected.

This is fucking stupid.

[Huziwara no !MOKOU.FAbw No.]

Wow, you're pretty mad.

[Anonymous No.]

tl;dr but this is the solution:

Use cheats or a save

[Anonymous No.]

You should cheat

[Anonymous No.]

You should have diviners in your party to protect from taking damage. Target infected first and dont expose the back row ones. I also field a lot of ninjas with assassinate and that gunner girl with the insta-kill.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sorry if I'm too much trouble, but I need to ask:
does anyone actually use the RSS feed system on /jp/?
Has anyone found it useful?
I've certainly NOT.

[Anonymous No.]

alicesoft wikia.

Just defend and after like 120-150 turns, you will automatically win almost all the territories.

[Anonymous No.]

>I'm trying to go through 1 star as fast as I can to gain as many points possible

Don't. If you want to start working up points, start with one or two stars on a Ran route.

[None !ZAFIRAWVp2 No.]

>>7161149
No and no.

>>7161130
Had you gone east, you would have had more good characters to deal with the demon army.
Use units that don't take damage while attacking to deal with Infected.

[Anonymous No.]

Uruza + Kenshin + that miko for miko storm 2 (Haven't played in a while so I forgot her name..)

Enjoy your free wins. Also don't be afraid to pump ridiculous amounts of money into your footsoldiers, they don't increase the enemies army size. Also you didn't start the run with the permits or something? Tsk tsk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161158

And I'd suggest doing this too. Ran route is so much easier and has a lot less bullshit involved than the normal route. The only 'difficult' part is the final dungeon grind to the last boss but even that is easy and should net you an easy 150 points or more on a decent 1-2 star run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161152
If I don't beat 1star in 120 turns I will lose any opportunity to gain points. I've already beat it on all 4 routes, doing it again without gaining points is worthless

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161224
there are a couple other ways to get points, like clearing characters

[Anonymous No.]

>He didn't use Ran route for points

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161224
>already beat it in 4 routes
>can't handle 1 star
Something is wrong with you. 1 star is not that different to no star at all. 1 star is like a regular game with more points even.

[Anonymous No.]

>did not fight tokugawa
>invaded iga
>wasted time with tenshi
>still having a hard time with DA
... Are you sure you really played this game before?

[Anonymous No.]

And with Takeda, you do understand that if you take over the entirety of their territory within 3 turns, you basically never have to face their blitz?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161313
I kept feeding the damn monkey. Everything hit the fan around turn 40.

[Anonymous No.]

I beat true route then lightly cheated my way through the rest. This game is truly hard as fuck and I just couldn't stop playing...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161877
Then don't feed the monkey? If you do things properly, the gourds will break on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161180

Really? my maximum score is actually 130 on kill monkey route. That took 102 turns.

I tried to blitz through the game on 2 star ran route and didn't H enough women, didn't level up enough for orochi, didn't clear enough characters (due to lack of +affection items), and didn't get 30k troops. Finished on turn 73, score was something like 120ish. How'd you get 150?

[Anonymous No.]

This is why I probably won't ever bother with Rance, I hate games that force you to do things in a particular way or you're screwed. Where's the freedom in that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162318
Having the freedom does not mean you can do anything and not get fucked for it. There's more than one way to play the game properly. If you act like a moron, even if this was easy mode, you will get fucked. Same with every other game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162317
How are you so bad?

I got around 225 points on Ran 2-star. Breaking 200 should be easy with even just a tiny bit of preparation. I dicked up my 5-star Kill the Monkey game by not balancing things right so only ended that with around 250 and didn't feel like going through it again to improve it.

[Anonymous No.]

I uninstalled the game after the first play though so I dont have much experience on IF routes and special game start condition but....

To OP: if your cost is higher then your national power, your income is cut in half. Maybe you should consider it.

[Anonymous No.]

it sounds counter-intuitive but should try getting more points before you try playing for points. if you have around 40-50 points you can get some good bonuses that will help you get 100+ points.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162358
You really don't need that many points to hit 200+. As long as you recruit strong dungeon captains, Ran's route is too short on any difficulty for the really hard stuff to kick in.

[Anonymous No.]

Uesugi house isn't that good of a bonus, you should of used them for elina, action fan and battle permits (I'm sure you have enough points for that)

Also use textbooks as well, break gourds in a certain order which will let you get all of the strong characters I do it like this ashikaga > uesugi > Mouri > hojou (Swap hojou and mouri with first playthrough runs) lastly you should also make every battle a victory by save scumming, the last option is a choice if you want the game to be easy or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7161130

Why does this game kill you if you try to view Loli stuff, but then have Kou get raped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162331

Whoa. How the hell did you do that? Did you fire every captain that couldn't be cleared and gave everyone end-game points or something? Also how many turns to finish?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162317

Recruit your usual handful of commanders (Senhime etc.) and clear them otherwise fill up your army full of generics and this gives you ridiculously easy points. Getting 30k troops and Oroichi isn't worth the extra turns, just blitz through the game while clearing as many as you can while giving them end game points and going to the carnival whenever you possibly can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162414

That's the purpose of a point run, you intentionally go for end game points and easy clears.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162403
Rance is their flagship character. Every other MC can bone a loli from their own will. Rance can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162384
the best I was able to do on 0 star is 85. I think I could have gotten 100 if I hadn't also been going for unlocks too, but I don't see how you can get 200+ unless you're playing on 2 star. I haven't tried it yet but I think you would want at least 60-70 points so you can get permits, 3rd fan, good items, and some extra characters.

[Anonymous No.]

I've never even gotten through my first playthrough of the True route, and I've had this game installed for years.

I'm too obsessive about not letting the demon army kill off other countries and major characters. This game has a ruthlessly efficient way of making it clear to me that I'll never be able to accomplish everything.

I like the sound of a Kill the Monkey route, since all I really want to do is rape my way across Japan without the pressure of the main plot and its demon rape train looming overhead, but I can't be arsed to push through the True route first to make it happen.

I just want to take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162488

If you conquer smart you can get everything on a first playthrough.

It can be a bit tough but it is possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162488
You have to map events based on which gourds you break before Honnouji if you don't want DA to end up killing anyone.

Texas and One Eye will never be taken over by DA.
Tenshi is better of vassaled and not fought against.
Iga is easy to blitz and with a large army, so is Takeda, so they can be taken care of right after Honnouji.
Just some hints.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162494

I know, I know. I wanted to get myself all psyched up and start up the ol' Rance machine for another go, thinking I'd be able to get through it well enough with a little advice.

And then turn fifteen happened, and I still couldn't nab Isoroku because that fish faggot wouldn't send her into battle and all he had left was the last territory of his doomed nation. And I found myself about to savescum out of frustration for not being able to get something simple done as early as I wanted to.

Oh no. No no no. I've been down this dark path before, and not even this ridiculously early in the scheme of things. This shit is never going to go well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162505
You autocapture Isoroku when Ashikaga is conquered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162505

You get isoroku automatically after you conquer ashikaga.

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you faggots play a REAL strategy game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162506
>>7162509

Wha...wha-!

WHAT

WHAT WHAT WHAT

But,

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what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162512
eu is for casuals

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162512
because it doesn't have porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162512
Already played strategy games. It's not as hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162521

I hate games that have porn in them and that actually require me to think in order to proceed. It's either one or the other, dammit. I can't masturbate and be strategic at the same time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162531
>he can't multitask

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162531

this. To my own amazement I find myself skipping the h scenes after I conquer a country.

I'm skipping hentai scenes. In an eroge. I mean what the fuck Rance what did you do to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>Introduce friend to Sengoku Rance.
>Some ammount of time later, he's trying to capture Ran for her route, but is quite upset about failing to do so.
>Apparently it took several hours of savescumming to get her.
>Tell him to get back to me after he gets all the Takeda generals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162548
>>>/a/
>>>/v/
>>>/b/

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162548

I've found a nifty trick to dramatically increase the chance of capturing generals, I've noticed you can only kill/capture up to 2 commanders, so just killing the general you want and maybe another to help battle rating and using things like defeated warrior hunt means you almost always capture the general you're after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162443

Oh shit.

Besides that, wouldn't it be freakishly hard to beat the game with just generic commanders? Or did you keep them until after you conquered everything then raise the affection of captured female commanders?

It occurred to me, but I never really had the heart to do it. Damn you, heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162540
I don't know. I only skip h scenes in this game if I don't like the scene (after reading them all). With the game aspect, if you already know the scene, why would you read all of it again?

But I have exceptions. There are around 10 scenes I always reread because I like them a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162565

The game is honestly very easy on 1-2 star anyway so generics are not a problem assuming you have 5-10 decent commanders (whom you can clear, it's a bonus if you can also give them end game points) along with abusing permits. This is why taking Elena (I think, again I haven't played in a while as mentioned earlier in this thread) is such a good idea - she's severely overpowered at the start of the game allowing you to get decent commanders fast and she's extremely easy to clear because she's a generic. The only problem is the final dungeon crawl but even that is easy when you can just throw 30 commanders at the boss.

[Anonymous No.]

You didn't recruit the strongest character in the game OP!

[Anonymous No.]

Alright, I'm thinking Tanegashima, Tokugawa, Imagawa, then Miko. That about right for now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162591

Get your third action flag as soon as you can, there's a guide for it if you need it. Personally I go dogs first to get Senhime then Mikos to get Natori then progress into Uesugi to get Kenshin and Ai. From there you can progress anywhere you really want to since you actually have some decent commanders at your disposal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162600
I rather go after Mori before Kenshin. They simply have a lot more events that you need to take care of so you can clear the characters. Unfortunately, they are harder to deal with than with Uesugi.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the hardest route? KTM and TH were cakewalks with family bonuses even on 5star.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162587
Let's get oily!
I used to have lots of images of her, and was the one who sort of forced her on /jp/ at the start, but that hard drive crashed and I lost them all. ;_;
Thankfully others appreciate her bronze oily love.
And she may not be the strongest, but for how easy she is to recruit she sure is powerful with the ability to attack without losing troops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162587
I prefer Himiko to that random loli. 6/7/7/7/7 and doesnt take 4 fan actions to get. She comes with guard cancel to boost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162618
She had a lot of images?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162626
Images of her different quotes, images of her fighting off 15 times the numbers of troops alone with the guts armor or whatever it was, and of course the few (lowres sadly) full body images of her in her swimsuit/flippers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162618
>>7162625
Oh come on, you don't get her for the stats or that silly attack, you get her because she can do convert in troop mode.
Suddenly you can do 4 miko storms, 4 accurate shots or 4 of any ability that uses "all remaining action points", the versatility of that ability is simply unmatched.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162403
Unspoken Alicesoft law that demands the protagonist to fuck every girl except the one you want him to, who'll get raped horribly instead. Also see Hornet and Kraken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162632
Yeah, but monks are also cheap to maintain. She makes a good meatshield and the ability to attack without counterdamage can be a big deal. Most of the time you'd convert, but in many games you can run her solo with guts armor and the sneak punch and you'll be able to win almost any fight by battlefield influence. Lose nothing, take enemies without reprisal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162591
You'd get war deced by tenshism by turn 20 or so, so you'd probably be able to capture one of them only. I'd say go for the miko because Natori's healing will take a massive burden off your treasury. On the other hand, since tenshism use terrorism you wont want to war dec Tokugawa because if you do tokugawa now before the hanny special events, the hanny will war dec you after you finish tokugawa, putting you into a double war with tenshism which's bad. You'd want to get rid of tenshism asap to not to waste fans on curbing terrorists

War deccing tagenashima will cause the mori to take akashi, forcing a gourd break. Depending on your long term plan, that's also something to consider.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162578

My god.

I just realized that not only is Elina easily clearable, you can give her end-game points. AND she starts with all-guard shikigami.

And here I was firing her to clear Daidoji Komatsu to Clear Toshihisa. Man I feel dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162645
Some of these are wrong.

Mori will not take over Akashi unless you take too long with Tanegashima AND already invaded Tenshi sect provinces.

Just don't invade any Tenshi province and vassal them after Honnouji instead.

Declaring war on Tokugawa is good because it allows you to get Senhime. Imagawa declaring war on you is no problem, since Hannies are pretty easy to beat and their province has high NP. You also do not need to waste fans on stopping Tenshi riots.

You only get one riot a turn and even a shitty 300 warrior unit from a generic can suppress a 1000 man peasant riot army easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162632

and youkai ward. Don't forget youkai ward. pummeling a 5k HP Nogiku to 0 is a great feeling.

Sadly, she's not clearable and takes 4 action fans AND a satisfaction bonus. And diviner guard isn't that useful because if you let a diviner deal damage big enough for it to matter, everybody else in the team is dead anyway. Fucking Ran and her Suzaku hax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162667
I've never really found the action fans an issue. I recruit those people to sell their soldiers then fire them down the line. It is a pretty good money boost, and you get Aburako.
Then again I've never played a game where I started with 15 vassals or something.
Instead I usually had the free fans in the super early game. Doesn't hurt that I would provoke tons of fights so I'd get attacked lots in other people's turns, so many soldiers needed to be held aside.

[Anonymous No.]

recently found out getting Overtime on Himiko isn't half bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162680

How is it worth giving up guard cancel for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162638
>Hornet
KICHIKOU NOT CANON NOT LISTENING LALALA

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know if theres a mod which disable the H scenes in Rance? Just to save time.

[Hiroyuki !!gcKtVkRIUnm No.]

>>7162696
just hold CTRL

SPPPPPEEEEEEEED TEXT

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162638

obligatory

I won that battle goddamn it.

[Anonymous No.]

it would be nice if Satella shows up in Rance 8, she apparently has pretty good chemistry with Rance

[Anonymous No.]

>>7162986
She does, in Kichikuoh.

She's more of a rival in canon, however. She also has this quirk that Rance pulled out of her while making her orgasm a thousand times per second. She wants to lose her virginity and have a good relationship, but all the men in the world are too scared of her.