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Inputs other than keyboard Touhou thread.

Anyone out there playing with some unusual inputs?

>> No.7073297

I used a ps3 controller once, couldn't get used to it and I'm impatient as fuck so I just switched back.

>> No.7073303

I use my penis

>> No.7073309

Brainwaves

>> No.7073306
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This.

>> No.7073312
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Feels much better than keyboard since I can actually hit diagonals with the joystick. Pushbuttons have insanely low pressure sensitivity, and it makes deathbombing a breeze.

Not what I intended to use it for, but what I have ended up using it for mostly now. Waiting warmly for CS2.

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>>7073312
Well that's a terrible photo. Also, you may be interested in: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-10-new-360-ps3-blazblue-in-development

And honest, using a hrap ex-se.

>> No.7073328

What would be some recommended ways to play Touhou without a keyboard? I can't go diagonally with a keyboard, but any sort of controller feels foreign because I'm used to movement in Touhou with my right hand, not my left. Plus I like that nice, big shift button.

>> No.7073329

>>7073323
brofist I have that

>> No.7073336
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What's Touhou with an arcade pad like?

>> No.7073344

>>7073336
The same as any other shmup I'd imagine.

>> No.7073348
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LS-32 here.
Just greased up mine today. It's as good as new.

I used a PS2 controller in the past. Never liked using a keyboard for shooters but it seems to work for many people.

>> No.7073349

>>7073336
The same as playing any other game.

>> No.7073352

>>7073348
Are you modding something or building your own? That hori I posted has the same ls-32.

>> No.7073358

>>7073348

you otakus are all the same, always lubing up your sticks

>> No.7073370

>>7073358
Except otakus don't play games.

>> No.7073375
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>>7073323
Yeah, I used my webcam for that a while back. At first I intended to buy a Hori RAP V3, but then I saw the Blazblue LE stick for the same price, but without insane shipping costs. Blazblue isn't that popular, so they were not overpriced like the Chun Li version sticks and such. Even better was that this one was already 20%~ish off when I purchased it, looks like it went up in price on Amazon again.
Numbered from 1-1500 too, its pretty sweet.

You get used to new control schemes pretty quick. A word of warning though, it seems Madcatz TE sticks only function on older intel exclusive USB formats, and not on the newer Enhanced USB that you see on most computers now. If you have an older pentium laptop, it will probably work, if you have a newer one you're out of luck. If you're on a desktop, I purchased a VIA chipset PCI USB expansion card so it could be read.

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>>7073375
>"You get used to new control schemes pretty quick. A word..."

Meant this as a response to >>7073328

>> No.7073379

>>7073348
I've got a LS-56 and it's great, but it's getting kinda squeaky. I've never greased it before, so I'm not sure how to go about it. What did you use?

>> No.7073392

MY DICK LOL


EDIT: FUCK BEATEN

>> No.7073502

>>7073352
I bought the Mushihimesama Futari stick. Was surprisingly affordable. It came with a LS-32 as well. The only thing I replaced were the cheap Hori buttons with a set of flat Seimitsu buttons.

>>7073379
I used white mineral oil. The kind that's used for sewing machines but it probably doesn't make a difference. Put a few drops onto the shaft below the dust washer and move it around to spread the oil. I heard lip balm works too but you'd probably have to open your stick up to apply it properly.
The difference is like night and day. Should have done this sooner.

>> No.7073516

Quick question, I've been looking for a cheap joystick, but all the ones I find are for PS3 and Xbox, these will work on a PC right?
Don't they both use USB?
Also, should I look for 8 button or 6?

>> No.7073544

>>7073516
Both PS3 as well as Xbox joysticks will work just like regular controllers on a PC. For PS3 sticks you will need a special driver (even though it uses USB).
Are there even any console joysticks without 8 buttons? In any case, as all the games you'd play with a stick don't require more than 6 buttons it doesn't really make a difference.

>> No.7073559

>>7073544
They all come with every button on a regular gamepad, but only one method of movement. You can toggle the joystick to work as pad, left joystick, or right joystick.

>> No.7073574
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Real men steer their Touhous.

>> No.7073585

original xbox controller here. shit's good on the fighting game. now i can start practicing

>> No.7073586

How can you play danmaku with a joystick?
A joystick can be precise, but if you have to dodge in slalom pattern right-left-right-left very fast - typical in danmaku it would just takes too much time to move the joystick around.

>> No.7073587

>>7073574
I need to purchase a steering wheel for GT5. My old one is old and busted now and only works for PS2.
Since PS3 is USB, I could probably use it for Touhou as well.

>> No.7073606

>>7073586
Every arcade released shmup disagrees with you.

>> No.7073620

>>7073586
Have you ever played on a Joystick? The distance needed to read the imputs are very short. If you've only played on Mortal Kombat type cabinets, then yeah, the joystick pressure and distance would be too much.

>> No.7073615

Why can't I steer my Touhou with my Kinect?

>> No.7073626

I got a mechanical keyboard recently. It's a Rosewill RK-9000. Playing Double Spoiler feels pretty good on it.

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>>7073574
Well that sounds interessting! Tried it onece with my arcade-stick, but is quite impossible to control the character with that stick. I play the tengu-games often with my gamepad, it's harder to control it compared to my keyboard, but it's very comfortable as this big flat board over my hip.

>> No.7073666

>>7073620
Yes, see >>7073641
>>7073606
Never played an arcade shoot 'em up. Looks like you don't have to move you character there and just press the fire-button until your finger burn! Yeee!

>> No.7073677

Madcatz TE here and it feels like a whole new game.

For the better, of course.

>> No.7073991

>>7073666
>Never played an arcade shoot 'em up.
It shows. In arcade shooters you move around more than in Touhou.

>> No.7074019
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Rockin an awesome PS3 controller here. I can't imagine using a keyboard after using this thing.

>> No.7074024

There really should be Touhou arcade cabinets made, I would to save up and buy one. But then again you can just by a cabinet and make one yourself which wouldn't be hard.

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>>7073294
not related but I fucking loved SMB3 battle mode

>> No.7074136

The idea of playing with a stick is really odd to me. Every time I hit the arcades and play something old like Galaga or 1943 (which is honestly the only shumups you will find outside of japan nowadays) the controls seems stiff. And it's not because the cabinets are old, is because a stick feels too mechanical and the motion too big. Maybe I'm not holding it right or I don't have the right feel, but I would never be able to clear monsters such as StB 9-6 with one of those. Such precise input I can only achieve with the keyboard, where I have a finger ready to press any direction that I want to go at any time, rather than moving my whole hand.

Pads are OK, but not good enough for me neither. I have no problems in sticking with the keyboard, I can 1cc all the games, half of them on hard and cleared all the extras, but I heard the top players always go for sticks/pads, it makes me worry if this is actually holding me back.

>> No.7074151

>>7074136
I know what you mean. The stick itself is a crap bat top with ridiculous resistance, same for the pushbuttons.

I think sanwa are the lightest motion and touch response which is what I, and most people who buys sticks these days tend to use.

>> No.7074306

>>7074151
Sanwa is for fighters, Seimitsu is for shmups. The distance you have to move to activate the switch on a Seimitsu is very small, even smaller on some models. And the springs have a lot of tension, so it snaps back to neutral immediately. Very good for making small, precise movements like you need in danmaku.

>> No.7074349

I am using a Nintendo Gamecube Controller to play touhou, this controller is really suitable to play games with not so many inputs, tried to play MVC3 or MBAC with this controller and I could say myself its a piece of shit

>> No.7074362
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7074362

Been using this thing for MBAC, hurts my fingers after a while.

>> No.7074395

>>7074306
That makes a lot of sense. I'll have to pick up a seimitsu for whenever I put together a cabinet.

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I just use an xbox 360 controller.

Its nice to have something hand held so you can sit back and relax while playing instead of having to hunch over your desk.

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>but I heard the top players always go for sticks/pads, it makes me worry if this is actually holding me back.
I know that feel. I bought an arcade stick for some beat 'em up games and trained month to get used to it, but can't even put simple combinations precise into the stick! I don't know if i'm doing it totally wrong or my arcade stick is just bad (or my autism get in the way of learning something new).

>> No.7076267

>>7076252
Depends. If it's a madcatz SE, or some super cheap offbrand, it could be the stick.

Otherwise, sorry to say, but it's you. Just do what's comfortable and keep at it, you'll get it eventually.

>> No.7076311

I've been using numpad keys 4,8,6,2 since my laptop's left direction key has exploded, and it feels surprisingly good.

>> No.7076309
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7076309

What's /jp/s opinion of using this thingy (apart from the price)?

>> No.7076333

>>7076309
it's the best arcade stick in existence

unless you play shooters. in that case, the hori RAP EX-SE is the best because of its stock seimitsu parts.

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fucking casuals.

>> No.7076395

>>7076309
Even including the price, it's incredible.
It's one of the absolute best sticks you can buy, stock, without modification.
It's also the best stick you can buy with intent to modify as well. The PCB is common ground, so you can easily add support for other consoles, it's easily opened to swap parts, fairly modular for replacing art and the top panel, and so on.

Especially if you can get it on sale, it's the best for the price, the only thing that could be better for touhou is a seimitsu stick instead of a sanwa. The sanwa is still great though, and it's not that difficult or expensive to switch it if you decide to.

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>>7076333
>>7076395
Sounds nice, thanks. But what is the difference between the orginal joystick and that sanwa-joystick? The orginal joystick acts more like a d-pad (with 8 directions). If you move the stick slowly, after a short time there is a very light resistance and it makes a *click* sound - that's the moment the input happened. How does it work with a sanwa-stick?

>> No.7076564

>>7076373
Holy shit

>> No.7076565
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>>7076333
>>7076395
Sounds nice, thanks. But what is the difference between the orginal joystick and that seimitsu-joystick? The orginal joystick acts more like a d-pad (with 8 directions). If you move the stick slowly, after a short time there is a very light resistance and it makes a *click* sound - that's the moment the input happened. How does it work with a seimitsu-stick?

>> No.7076585

>>7076333
I just bought one (Round 2 though) and shooters are pretty fun in Mame with it. If there's a stick that's even BETTER I don't even wanna know how that feels.

>> No.7076632

>>7076565
It's generally the same, but see >>7074306

I have a TE with stock buttons and stick, but I'm planning to get a second stick with seimitsu parts just for shmups. Sanwa will certainly do you fine, though, and Seimitsu is something I'm personally only actually considering just for shmups.

>> No.7076667

ps1 pad

>> No.7076696

I can clear Suwako on keyboard

Just had to say that before some newfriend wastes his monies...

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>>7073294
I use this, it's pretty nice. The D-pad gets stuck sometimes though.

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>>7076333
>Implying this isn't better

>> No.7076904

Saturn USB Pad, too poor for stick.

>> No.7076941

The thing about sticks is that they don't necessarily make you play better. They're about on par with a decent controller in my opinion. Some people might have stronger preferences but that is subjective.
However, it's definitely much more fun to play with a stick, no contest. It's like you're really a Japanese kid playing in the arcades.

Also, Seimitsu parts work great for many games, not just shooters. I even play fighters and many emulated games with my LS-32.

The LS-40 is also worth a try if you want a really tight stick. It's like anal sex. Or so I've heard (about the anal sex part).

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i use one of these with a ps2 - usb convertor. Works pretty nicely but i've been using it for years and the stick is still great but the buttons are getting a little sloppy and i might replace them soon.

>> No.7077124

I switch between a PS2 controller and keyboard

>> No.7077133

>>7073586

Using the D-pad on a PS2 controller isn't practical, using the analog stick is pretty good but I noticed that you can't be as precise as when using a keyboard. Maybe I need to tweak the sensitivity a bit.

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I use this.. posting here reminds me I should buy sanwa buttons and mod it (and while it's apart, clean the stick inside)

>> No.7077303
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7077303

Diagonials respond pretty well for a cheap controller, and since the directional is concave, fitting my thumb, I can dodge left and right without moving my thumb on it.

Shoulder button is humongous and easy to press and keep pressed.

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>>7076632
When i'm done working i'll train 2-3h touhou with my TE stick. Maybe i will mod it someday and replace the joystick with a seimitsu-joystick, because i played a long time no beat'em-up.
Which software do you use for your <input-device> playing on computer? The best one i found is "Xpadder"!

>> No.7077523

I tried playing on my cheap logitech pad and my fingers started cramping up holding down the shoot and focus buttons.

>> No.7077873

Standard Dualshock

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I have one of these, but am looking to replace it. Mainly because the stupid macro button (red) is so close that I tend to accidentally hit it and go into "no buttons work" mode.

It is really hard finding a controller that you are happy with for some reason. PS2 and Xbox controllers feels too cramped because I keep 3 fingers under it, and 1 finger at the side, while they are designed to fit 2 under and 2 at the sides.

I also sometimes accidentally hit the "reconnect" button in the center, but can't understand how my D-pad thumb gets way over there.

Anyone got any recommendations? (preferably 6 buttons top and a D-pad)

>> No.7086813

Are keyboards substantially shittier than other input devices when it comes to the fighters?

Shameless bump.

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