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7058893 No.7058893 [Reply] [Original]

Remember that VN you said you were going to make?

What happened? Did you give up, or are you still trying to make it?

>> No.7058921

If I recall correctly in a previous thread (the another dream one) it was stated that drawfags and the like can't work together worth a shit. That they get half-through and then message each other they will continue it on their own.

>> No.7058916

joke's on you, I've already finished it. it's called The Fucking Question

>> No.7058945

it never went past the "vague idea in my head" stage.

>> No.7058947

>>7058921
People work best if they're actually near one another and have realistic goals. A couple of dreamers over MSN won't accomplish shit.

>> No.7058969 [SPOILER] 
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7058969

Still working on it.

>> No.7058976

>>7058947
That's how /jp/ roles unfortunately.

>> No.7058984

I'm busy letting it ferment in my head for another decade or so. I need money for shoving in as many CGs as possible, and I'm not going to have some 2-bit "drawfag" doing all that. No sir, I'm going to shell out money for a Japanese artist to do it for me.

>>7058921
Remind me which thread you were talking about.

>> No.7058994

How come everytime I see this thread I see this thread?
>>7058016

>> No.7059001

>>7058994
Because it's that guy trying to advertise for his shitty VN

>> No.7059004

>>7058984
I'm not going to bother looking for it (you can do that). The OP had a cover of one of the volumes of another dream and commented if anyone remembered it and then a few anonymous came and stated that it stopped producing more volumes because people didn't want to keep shit together or something.

>> No.7059010

>>7059004
Mind you this is from memory, so it may or may not be accurate.

>> No.7059025 [DELETED] 
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7059025

HELL naw, i just gatta find a way to draw in my laptop.

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>>7059025

>> No.7059031 [DELETED] 

Oh, I will make it someday.
For now I'm focusing on improving my art skills - I'm not that bad, but that's one area I'm a perfectionist about.
I guess soon I'll have to start working on improving my writing a bit - I'm determined to write in English, but it's not my first language, so that's a bit of a problem.
And if I decide on the idea I have now, I'll have much more to do - learning programming, and brushing up on my rusty 3D modeling and animation skills
I don't think it will be sooner than five years from now, but someday, for sure - I will make it.
I have all the time I need, after all.

>> No.7059038

Oh, I will make it someday.
For now I'm focusing on improving my art skills - I'm not that bad, but that's one area I'm a perfectionist about.
I guess soon I'll have to start working on improving my writing - I'm determined to write in English, but it's not my first language, so that's a bit of a problem.
And if I decide on the idea I have now, I'll have much more to do - learning programming, and brushing up on my rusty 3D modeling and animation skills
I don't think it will be sooner than five years from now, but someday, for sure - I will make it.
I have all the time I need, after all.

>> No.7059040

>>7059004
Got any phrases from it that would help? Oh, and I remember seeing some site posted that listed just how much it cost to make your average eroge. Naturally, I lost the link. Do you know what I'm referring to?

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>>7059029

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>>7059047

>> No.7059082

>>7059040
No, I don't know what you're referring to. I don't do VNs. As for the phrases:

>I said Another Dream was fun reading, bad art or not.
>OP said if anyone remembered this, but without the words 'Another Dream' in the op.

That's all I remembered. And another source I got the idea of oc fags not working together was a translation project for a vn and someone posted the exact message one of them sent to the other.

Fuck, now you're making look through.

>> No.7059099

>>7059040
http://zepy.momotato.com/2008/09/09/eroge-production/

>> No.7059103
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I've got everything I need. I love to draw (especially loli-looking characters), and I have almost a gig of free-to-use illustrated and 3D background images from japanese doujin sites, and basic scripting is no problem for me. My only problem is writing...I suck at it. So I guess I might just be better off making some nukige for DLsite....

Pic is a scrapped image from a failed project of mine ww

>> No.7059124

>>7059103
I can get you a writing sample.

>> No.7059137

I've "stolen" a ton of art. I just need to figure out a way to use them all for a story.

>> No.7059141

I'm actually illustrating a VN now. I wish I drew quicker though. I think my drawings are good, but they take me really long, I think my collaborators secretly dislike that part of me.

>> No.7059152

>>7059124
That'd be great help for me.

>> No.7059160
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7059160

My art is terrible so I just used a generator and shopped over a bunch of my photos for backgrounds. As for scripting, who needs it? I just used RPG maker.

>> No.7059170

>>7059152
(need an e-mail or something or I can't send it, lol)

>> No.7059181

>>7059141
Also, for writers looking for artists: always remember that while drawings tell a lot, they're not the whole truth about the artist. Confront them about how long their drawings take and how much time they can dedicate to their project. Don't expect the estimates to be fulfilled, there are often circumstances so the deadlines will be stretched. Instead of being all about quality like I'd expect most /jp/ers to be, try to go for the devoted ones. A part of why people have bad experiences about artists is that they can't see behind the samples and pick ones that can draw but not collaborate and commit, which are even more important skills for a VN artist.

I also recommend giving the graphician artistic freedom. Remember that while your ideas are great, having multiple people contribute to the project will most likely make it even better, so don't restrict your artist's creativity for no reason. Not to mention it'll kill their motivation.

>> No.7059189

>>7059170
I'll give you my spam account for now, since I'm posting it on /jp/ lol. spasm.bucket@gmail.com

>> No.7059199

>>7059189
lol, OK. Be careful with attachments since it's 4chan

>> No.7059215

>>7059160
What the heck am I reading?

>> No.7059251

>>7059099
Huh, nice link.

>> No.7059297

I gave up because I didn't choose the right people to make it with.

>> No.7059403

>>7059215
Ghost Slide.

>> No.7059411

>>7059403
That's an awesome name. Just for that, I bet that it's an awesome VN.

>> No.7059441

>>7059403
What's it about?

>> No.7059487

>>7059441
Akira Ohashi made a post on the internet, and now he is cursed with 4 weeks to live. To end the curse he must find his true love... and kill her!

>> No.7059508

>>7059487
Well... maybe the writing is good.

>> No.7059530
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7059530

I've got writer's block.

>> No.7059545

I don't have the artistic talent when it comes to drawing on the computer.

>> No.7059565

>>7059545
Practice, practice, practice.

If you really want something, you will work at it.

>> No.7059566

I can't draw, so it's stuck going nowhere in my head.

>> No.7059627

>>7059566
Learn. It's not like Tsukihime had amazing art. As long as the story's good it should work out fine.

>> No.7059638

>>7059565

I draw and still progress reallllly slowly. I'm good at reading, studying, and applying concepts, but damn this drawing by pure practice stuff is tricky. any tips besides just draw the same thing for infinity, or is that really what I need to do?

>> No.7059717

>>7059638
If you're trying to draw anime, you're doing it wrong. Learn to draw realistically first, while learning anatomy and perspective and all that.

Practice a lot by drawing things from life and most importantly, things you're not comfortable with. Always go after your weaknesses when it comes to drawing, and you will gain a greater perspective on things.

Afterward, you can gradually stylize your art into something that will fit for something you're trying to write.

>> No.7059892

>>7059717
Why not just hire a professional artist(Or, if you're on the cheap, an artist who's only showcased a few things on pixiv that you happen to like) to draw shit for you?

>> No.7059931

>>7059892
I dunno, I think most Anons want to do this sort of thing on their own or look towards other Anons for help.

That or they lack the wealth to hire a talented artist in the first place, cheap or not.

>> No.7060010

>>7059038
What's your first language? Your english doesn't seem too bad.

Maybe you could write your VN in your original language?

>> No.7060441

>>7059931
Not me. Well, I certainly lack the wealth to hire a talented artist at the moment, but I'm not about to burn up my good idea on shitty art.

>> No.7061670

>>7059160
Best line ever

>> No.7061694

>If you're trying to draw anime, you're doing it wrong. Learn to draw realistically first, while learning anatomy and perspective and all that.

>Practice a lot by drawing things from life and Afterward, you can gradually stylize your art into something that will fit for something you're trying to write.

Do keep in mind no western artist has ever correctly emulated anime style doing this, but hey you might be the first! If not, then you can still go draw for /tg/.

>> No.7061701

Still working on one of them. Just trying to get the character theses fleshed out before I continue writing the story.

The other two are in limbo; I'm not sure whether I *want* to do them, or what I want to do with them if I decide to go through with it.

>> No.7061785
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7061785

Will be 'working on it' idly until I die. This is a particularly uninteresting example from three years ago. I have stuff from significantly earlier. Nothing seems to really gel into something I think I could convince other people to enjoy; I would probably need help for that aspect. It's hard to even consider though, since the atmosphere and environments of the world feel like a vacation home to me, and the creatures are like friends. I don't really want to share them, but I feel guilty for leaving them trapped in my skull. I also know better than to drag people into collaborating on a project while I am still feeling so lackadaisical about it all.

>> No.7063230

>>7061785
I like it, keep going Anon.

>> No.7063634

>>7061785

That looks pretty cool, sir.

If you stop thinking about the limitations of what others might enjoy you may produce something interesting.

>> No.7063637

>>7061694
Ten out of ten.

>> No.7063640

>>7061701
Limbo.... limbo....YES that's a good title. Thanks anon.

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>>7063634
>>7063230
Thanks. I don't really like the idea of sharing something created purely out of a somewhat selfish need for expression, but perhaps there is a middle ground. I can't really stop it from leaking out every now and then anyways.

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