/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

March has arrived.

Are your bodies ready?

[Anonymous No.]

Theres still snow on the ground where I live. Rofl

[Anonymous No.]

Ready for delays?

[Anonymous No.]

>Ar Tonelico
I played the first game expecting something amazing thanks to you gentlemen, what I was left with was 37 hours I didn't enjoy or am I getting them back. It felt like a VN with repetitive gameplay.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait to watch little girls play and giggle in the water.

[Anonymous No.]

Pre-ordered, but Im in britian so I'll probably be a week late.

[Sudo !Tohsaka8ks No.]

I pre-ordered it as soon as it became available.

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>>7026668
I'm in Sweden, so the same goes for me.

Also, Finnel thread.

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[Anonymous No.]

I still don't like the shift to 3D, so fuck it.

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[Anonymous No.]

Of course, OP. Also a UK fag, I hope the calendar gets through customs.

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>>7026711
I was pretty skeptic towards AT3 in general when it was announced. The 3D looked weird, none of the heroines appealed to me and I didn't really like Aoto's design, either.

Then I saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zp3fUsb29w and all was right with the world.

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>>7026806

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>>7026855
EXEC_EP=NOVA/. is a miracle of the universe.

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone tried AT3 on internal? Some sites it only works on external, others say both

[Anonymous No.]

>listening to at3 hymmnos for the first time

>my faces

[Anonymous No.]

>>7026723
Ausfellow, and I know how you feel.
Still, I'll chance having customs seize my package over paying $30 for shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7027072

Not liking Singing Hills? Shame on you, good sir. Shame on you.

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>>7026653
Why did you play it for 37 hours if you didn't enjoy it?

[Anonymous No.]

Payday can't come soon enough.

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit the release day was announced?

Where all the usa bros going to preorder it from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7027696
http://store.nisamerica.com/Games?search=ar+tonelico

As you can see in the thread though, not only american anons have ordered it from there.

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>>7027579

oh, I do like it

the thing is, before I started listening to it I was all "there's no way this will ever top at1/2's hymmnos" so it took a couple of songs before I really warmed up to it

[Anonymous No.]

How do you pronounce ar tonelico? Is it like how it's spelled i.e aru toneriko, or is that just the ghetto way they spell it with katakana.

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>>7027585
I liked the heroines and I liked collecting items.

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>>7028714
how it's spelled
they usually say it in the opening theme of the games

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>>7028723
I had a similar experience, but I think I played for like 50 hours, or maybe it was less... I kept messing around in the sphere and spent a lot of time exploring and and revisiting areas. I leveled up so high the end boss fight was disappointingly easy, but luckily I was able to get the heroine I wanted. I decided on Misha early on but later went Shurelia route. I felt sorry for Misha, but Shurelia is my waifu.

I wanted to try the other routes, but decided against it.

[Anonymous No.]

I personally wonder what are my chances to run it with emule on pc. AT1 and AT2 did it pretty smooth but AT3 uses PS3 instead of PS2 and so i concerned.
On other hand I find characters appealing and hymns better than in AT2 where they are almost unremarkable(maybe expect for replakia).

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>>7028737
>emulate
>PS3

Yeah, good luck with that.

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>>7028737
by the time you can emulate a ps3 the ps3 will be $50
you can already hack them to play isos

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>>7028729
I see, thanks. I decided to check the drama cds and heard how they pronounce it clearly. It just feels strange to say it aloud, I think. It's extremely foreign sounding for an English game title, or am I mistaken for thinking that.

I forgot, but to tack this one but I thought the music in the was was exceptional and it along with the superb heroines made the game worthwhile, but the game play was meh.

[Anonymous No.]

Pre-ordered weeks ago.

I just hope the translation won't be shitty this time. Seriously. Then again, I'm already upset over the Tilia to Tyria (because hurr durr we (NISA) fucked up translation in the first game by having it as Tyria, so we can't change it now!).

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>>7028742
>>7028744
Well thanks for advices, gonna think out of something now.

[Anonymous No.]

If you played AT1 and liked the heroines, setting and music but disliked the game mechanics (especially the combat system, I suppose), you might want to give AT2 a try anyway.

It does things a little differently.

[Anonymous No.]

But its lacking in Mir

[Anonymous No.]

Nope because I haven't even played the 2nd game due to the game refusing to accept my legit non cheap knock-off 64MB memcard.

Fuck you.

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>>7028759
I tried and got like a couple hours in, but felt like it was just another grind and the game would be too easy. If the difficulty was higher it'd be more enjoyable, but like all RPGS if you level it makes it easier.
I liked the crafting system in both games too, forgot to mention that. I think the problem is the story, crafting system and desire to explore lowers the difficulty of the game drastically and since it's enjoyable to do those things; the game becomes easy...

Maybe I'm looking at it from the wrong perspective in terms of viewing it as a actual video game, instead of a visual novel type RPG. I don't know the name of rance style games, so I'm just saying visual novel, forgive me.

[Anonymous No.]

March!

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>>7028777
As saddening as the prospect of an Ar tonelico game without Mir is, we should count our blessings, not our miseries.

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>>7028804
Yayoi is nice, but I don't think I'm going to celebrate her birthday. I'd rather celebrate Teto-san's.

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>>7028814
I will have extra money this year because I will not be buying it? That is a blessing.

[Anonymous No.]

Will I be able to understand what's going on in Qoga if I only played the 1st one? I'd consider getting the 2nd but them bugs man.

[Anonymous No.]

sluts the game

[Anonymous No.]

Can't wait, playing Neptunia right now but getting kind of irritated since it crashed twice during dungeons. Not rpg related but does anyone know if the US PSN version of Arcana Heart 3 is going up this month? I'm pretty sure they said Spring 2011.

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>>7029669
It won't be a big problem. There is one character from AT2 who joins your party and there'll probably be a couple of references to events from it, but nothing that'll stop you from understanding the main storyline.

As for the Raki glitch in AT2 (which is what I assume you mean with "bugs"), that's easily fixable with a patch.

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>>7029697

Neptunia crashed on me, too. luckily I only lost about an hour worth of plot that was easily skipped. were you using treasure search at the time, perchance?

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>>7029672
Lies, there are only pure girls in Ar Tonelico.

(except maybe Luca)

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>>7029714
I see. Since you mentioned the patch to fix the game, I might just "procure" the game now.

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>>7029750
You may not even need the patch if you're using PCSX2 0.9.7, but in case you're using a modded PS2 like me you can get it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa

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>>7029718
Ahh no I found new parts for Neptune's processor form so I decided to check it in the menu. It froze when it was trying to load the character model.

[Anonymous No.]

I am not ready because I'm still not done with AT2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7029868
You still have a couple of weeks.

Ganbare, anon-kun!

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>>7026653

Are you me?

[Anonymous No.]

AT1= Backtracking: The game
AT2 = No shurelia :( But it has Jacqli, way less backtracking, and a better combat system.

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>>7030243
>AT1= Backtracking: The game

>Let's go to the Tenba lab!
>Wait, let's go back to Firefly Alley.
>Okay, now we can go to lab.
>No, back to Firefly Alley.
>Alright, we're going to lab for real for real this time.

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>>7029697
>>7029718
>>7029853
Playing Neptunia here as well, near the end of the game so I am recruiting the goddesses. Black Heart is stupidly overpowered, even moreso than Neptune, Green Heart not so much..her HD stats are all agility in her standard goddess gear.

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>>7030270
Green heart is pretty good, but yeah her standard gear sucks. and she gets no weapon until Neptune is 61.
I hated how you don't even get to the good parts of the combat system until the game is nearly over.
5pb DLC up yet?
Why does IF suck so badly? At least Compile Heart can do a guard break by herself only using half her AP.
I pretty much only use her and neptune for their guard breaking.
Black Heart's Desperado and Infinite slash makes randoms easy though.

[Anonymous No.]

The release day can't come quickly enough, dammit.

[Anonymous No.]

It won't be released in the EU, right?
So importing is really the only sane choice, correct?

[Anonymous No.]

I only really liked EXEC_PAJA/.#MISHA from the first game, and I thought I'd be getting into the series for the music. Glancing at YouTube it seems AT2 might be better music wise, but the sprites for the game just look so horrid and are putting me off. The sprites from AT1 are pretty good, so I've no idea why they went backwards. That said, I enjoyed the first game greatly, just had higher expectations for the soundtrack.

No PS3 and not really any need for one, so AT3 is a few years off for me.
Sorry for the blogpost, when I finished AT1 the general threads were already dead

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>>7030519

European release is set for 25 March, but no preorders bonus.... feelsbadman.jpg

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>>7029793
Sorry for the bother, but how do you use this patch?
I'm double-clicking it but nothing's happening.

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>>7030621
No limited edition, or just the bonus?

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>>7030640
I think you just have to drop the iso on the exe.

[Anonymous No.]

AT3 Cosmospheres, fuck yeah!

The plot's also a few cuts higher than AT2.

But as an actual game it's at about the same level as AT2, except without the girl power grind/OP. The battle system in particular leaves me feeling they could have made it a lot more fun with some more effort, but eh, I got what I expected.

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>>7030660
That seems to have worked.
Thanks.

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>>7030642

It's a regular edition.
I'm living in France and apparently, no bonus, extra or whatever. It's not even translated, it's english text.

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>>7030664
Have you tried hard mode? How was it?

[Anonymous No.]

I hope one of you who had pre-ordered it will scan the calendar.

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>>7030335
I had the opposite experience with IF. I use circle, force combo, force combo, chaos edge x2 as her main combo chain and that tears right through the guard gauge.

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>>7030698
if it'll it on my scanner i'll do it
my scanner is only 8.5 in wide though. meant for photocopying office junk as one of those all-in-one deals, not for big art
if it doesn't fit you'll have to wait for someone else.

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>>7030698
I personally doubt it'll be anything special, probably just images from the artbook.

Of course, I'd be happy to be proven wrong in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh by the way, both Neptunia and AT3 are released this month.
I will buy AT3 but I'm not sure for Neptunia.
Your thoughts on it?

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>>7030682
I haven't fully cleared the game on hard yet, so take this with a grain of salt.

Hard mode is a real bitch when it comes to boss battles. If you start a brand new game on hard mode, enjoy seeing the opening scenes up to the fight with Mute at least a dozen times.

It feels like they just scaled up the damage and hp of enemies a lot, which is not so bad in normal battles, because song magic vast overkill in normal becomes good damage in hard. But, in boss battles you'll find yourself spamming items constantly, because the CPU sucks at not being suicidal, and you kind of need them to be alive to stop enemy charged attacks (think AT1). You have to play each boss battle a couple times to learn their attack patterns, but if they've got something that will instakill someone, chances are it's back to the grinding block for a bit.

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>>7030756
I have preordered AT3 already, but with Neptunia, although I like the look of it, I will probably wait a few months for it to go down in price, then I won't feel so bad if it is shitty.

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>>7030741

Finnel's flat chest will brighten my days when I'll get AT3.

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>>7030680
>>7030642
>>7030621
>>7030519

>I can only speak for UK but as far as I know we have no premium edition. We will just have standard edition (packaged with the CD sound-track) and then you will get the art-book when your pre-order with GAME - we are still trying to set this up.

>Not sure about other EU countries though.

Thankfully doesn't apply to me regardless since I ordered the calendar. My emails to NIS (they're in the last AT thread on the archive) also confirm that this would be the case.

[Anonymous No.]

So could we get this laid out nice and easy?

What is the best that can be purchased in America?
What is the best that can be purchased in Europe?

Importing etc disregarded of course.

[Anonymous No.]

My body's getting ready for April.

[Shameimaru Aya is my girlfriend !3y3mjHUKjI No.]

>>7030906

For the Draft?

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>>7030889

Best for both is the Calendar edition of the game on the NISA store. Game, art book, soundtrack and calendar for £50~. The best you'll get elsewhere is the game, a soundtrack and possibly an art book depending on where you buy from.

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>>7030756
Neptune is a charage, reference game, dungeon crawler, and RPG.

Basically, the plot is silly. Don't play it for the plot. It's basically 2 fetch quests and a final boss, stretched over an entire play-through. It had some high moments though in Leanbox, which actually held my interest through all the dungeons.

And while we're on the topic, the dungeons are also silly. After a dozen of them you notice they're almost all built the same. The mission objective is the farthest large room, while the treasure is in some branch of varying degrees of remoteness from the shortest path to the objective. There's no mix up in it. Every mission or quest involves entering a generic dungeon, fighting random encounters, and getting somewhere, or in a few cases some items. It gets tiring and starts to feel really lazy on the developer's part after a while. Especially when the party get trapped in a supposedly empty disk, that has monsters and a boss inside. I really would have liked some other things to do to break up the monotony besides listen to 5pb. Like places to explore, and not just barrel through asap, or maybe some simple puzzles.

Continued below because the board is a dick.

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>>7031071
The battles are pretty fun, but again there's very little variety, once you figure out the shortest path to victory. And with so many encounters to deal with, you end up taking that path a lot. The item system is interesting since you can't abuse it easily and healing is actually fairly costly, but it adds a lot of dumb luck factor (especially in hard mode) when bosses can take out a character before their item skills have a chance to activate.

The game has some really funny and interesting characters though, but doesn't get to showcase them a lot besides the main trio. That's great for Neptune and IF. Neptune in particular is just a blast to watch, because she really puts her clueless vigor to use for good effect. But I found Compa to be really annoying (desu). And not only for her voice (desu). The other CPUs are fun, but their interaction with the other characters even after recruiting them is extremely limited, so it feels like a lot of wasted potential.

And ah yes, there are just tons of references to other games, which always brought a smile to my face (if I got them). My favorite one was the Final Fantasy reference in Lastation, although Tetris in Planeptune came close. In my opinion the references will make or break the game for you, because the other factors aren't appealing enough on their own.

Oh, and the music is really mediocre. GUST's composers could blow these guys out of the water any day.

Given a choice between the two I'd take AT3 any day, but Neptune still gave me some good times.

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>>7030823
It's funny, I've never been a huge fan of dfc yet I still find Finnel's lack of breasts strangely erotic.

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[Anonymous No.]

How much would you rate AT3?
I read a review and they gave a 11/20

[Anonymous No.]

>>7033771
Huh? People care about ratings and other people's opinions?

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>>7033771
I bet it was made by a proper gaming site, they care more about gameplay mechanics than cute girls and diving innuendo, which is what the series is about. Actually, fanservice usually gets a game downrated, so I'm not really surprised. A /jp/er will love it just fine.

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>>7033786
It was made by a french site and most of japanese bishoujo games released in France don't get a high rating.
Might be the same elsewhere, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking finally. This is what I bought my PS3 for in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

Question about AT2: Does the emulated game exhibit slowdown and stuttering during flashy, multi-target attacks, to the point that it makes guarding extremely unreliable? I'm just curious if it's some issue with the game itself or a PS2 problem.

[Anonymous No.]

Just finished my DL of AT3, does it work on multiman/gaia internal, or am I going to have to wait for an external HD?

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>>7035596
It's your computer.

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>>7035629
No, I'm playing it on a PS2, so if anything it would be that, but I guess that answers my question.

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>>7035680
It did that on my fat PS2 sometimes, and I was playing the official AT2 release, so I couldn't even blame it on the disk.

It's particularly noticeable, but far less annoying, when you activate Synchronity Chains. Or maybe that one really was seek/read speed, I'm not sure.

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>>7035596

Not for me it didn't. The only attack that I can recall that was impossible to guard due to lag was THE BIG WAVE but you can barely even see the guard meter during that attack anyway..

[Anonymous No.]

I played through AT1 and 2 for Mir
I found out she wasn't in AT3

Fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>7036230

It's a worthy trade off for a selection of rather delicious waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7036334
BUT MIR/JACQLI IS MY LIFE

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>>7036205
Yeah, the Big Wave is definitely the biggest offender, but I'm reduced to mashing buttons with all but a few of the slower double attacks. My PS2 is old and fat and has issues reading discs anyway, so that probably doesn't help. The poor thing clicks and whirs like crazy whenever the screen gets busy. It's like it's crying.

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>>7030808

Do boss fights and random encounters still provide a challenge on normal? Because I want things to be challenging but I don't want things to be TOO hard that necessitates mandatory grinding.

[Anonymous No.]

Looks like I'm not the only one having trouble with the game occassionally pausing/stuttering, making my guards crappy. Then again, I'm playing on the PS2 emulator. But at least I can still guard against them if I react in time.

The actual bullcrap comes from certain attacks where they shake the screen or those flashy attacks where they cover up the guard meter and then show it again and you have less than a second to guard or get raped.

[Anonymous No.]

So /jp/ers, who ordered the calendar set and is brave enough to set up in display on your wall/desk? I ordered it but I think I'll hide it somewhere... Sorry, my power level isn't high enough to break scouters. I pretty much ordered because... might as well, right? It's in limited quantities after all. Same deal with Neptunia's cards, even though I wouldn't use them seriously as playing cards they still are nice to have.

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>>7038504

see >>7026723.

Equates to about £50 which is pretty damn good for a limited edition copy of a game, at least in the UK. As for the calendar I'll probably hang it up on the back of my door. I've had a poster of Lara Croft from a PS1 magazine on the back of my door for about 10 years now so I think it's time for a change.

I'm kind of kicking myself over Neptunia though, I wanted the cards but they sold out like 5 minutes before I went to order which was quite annoying. Now they're completely sold out and there's no art books left for Europe either so I've missed out completely. ;_; I'm hoping a copy appears on Amazon or something soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7038477
>normal encounters
>challenge
Haha, no. Not even on hard mode, most of the time.

>bosses
Actually you don't have to grind much on hard mode, until the end when the big bad has OHKO attacks. The only difference is on Hard Mode you have to retry more boss battles because you had the bad luck of getting one character attacked twice in a row. Difficulty is variable and you can always change it if you lose. If you play on normal mode you probably won't have to grind much at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone can give that copypasta with torrents of the earlier games? Or a rar with torrents and emulator.

[Anonymous No.]

Are both of the perorder options on NIS the premium version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7038477
In the grand tradition of this series, the game is a joke on normal mode.

You could probably get away with many boss battles on hard without grinding, just it will take a while and you will use a boatload of healing items.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7038984
>Or a rar with torrents and emulator.

This is probably what you're looking for: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8m7bh61q

The Raki fix was linked earlier in the thread, if you need it.

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>>7039045
In all fairness, though, if people are playing for a challenge, they should be playing Atlus's games, not Gust's. Everything Gust makes is piss easy, with the exception of some Atelier games where getting the best ending requires slamming one's face against a wall repeatedly to get everything done within the time limit. But you play them for the story, characters, atwork, and music. A good challenge can certainly be fun, but it is not necessarily a prerequisite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7039148
Yep, this is what I was looking for. Thank you kind sir!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7039194
You're quite welcome. I seriously love these games, so making sure that more people can play and enjoy them is only natural.

[Anonymous No.]

/r/ing the whole "Ar Tonelico Pack", please.

Also, yes, my body is ready, OP.

Will do Saki's route first, because them tits.

Alternatively, Tyria/Tilia's another nice gal.

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>>7039247
Copy/pasted from the OP of a recent AT/GUST general thread:

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Special_Issue_5

[Anonymous No.]

>>7039302
Thank you, good sir.

May the innuendo be with you.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Got my PS3 tonight, already got Valkyria and Rorona a few days ago and getting Neptunia tomorrow. Had AT3 pre-ordered since day 1. MY BODY IS READY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040176
Ah... reminds me of one year ago, when I bought a PS3 JUST in anticipation for AT3. And then a couple months later I bought a HD monitor for Totori. Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040428
So I'm not alone, whoa.

...Though my HDTV just fucked up and I have to buy an HDMI monitor now.

But ah, I'll probably will, before AT3 releases. I MUST, honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

I live in Italy, and while the game is theorically cheaper being about 42€ from NISA store, with free shipping too, the custom would block it and make me pay 20% of tax plus some random added costs.
So I'm probably going to suck it and get the European version when it comes out, even tho it's artbook-less.
It should have the cd, atleast, and with Gamestop having a 25% discount on every game, it should cost me about 45€ anyway.
Neptunia should come out between this and next week here, so I'll probably see what happens.
Yakuza 4 is this month too, tho, so I'm going to be poor pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040465

I'm not sure if GAME order internationally but I believe the art book will be available from there. The CD comes with all copies. No calendar for Europe though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7039045

Hmm. Normally when I play a game for the first time I first play on Normal, unless I know there's some benefits to playing on harder difficulties. Do I get anything special for fighting on Hard or increased enemy stats the only thing?

Also, can you change the difficulty in the middle of the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040567
'Unno 'bout yer first question, but...

>Also, can you change the difficulty in the middle of the game?

Yes, you can. Or so I read.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't care much for AT3 but this is always related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukUsUUiBDVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040567
There's no difference besides the difficulty of the battles, I believe. And yeah, just pull up the menu anywhere outside of battle to change it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7041037
>>7040591

Okay, cool. Thanks for replies.

I don't know what difficulty I'll stay on when the game comes. I guess I'll keep it on Normal and see how things go.

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[Anonymous No.]

So, which heroine is /jp/ going for first?

I'm partial to Finnel, but I really like all of them. The first two games never gave me this much trouble choosing. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>7042830
I'm torn between Finnel and Tilia. The 3rd Reyvateil usually is superior, but Finnel is a self-proclaimed masochist and I love do-M heroines. The only thing I like of Saki is Sakia, so I guess I'll pass her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7042830
The other one

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>>7042851
Finnel is a strong runner-up, but Tilia is clearly the correct choice. The third reyvateil is always the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7042830

I'll probably go for Saki on my first playthrough. I don't know much about the characters but Saki and Finnel seem easier to win over while it looks like you have to do more stuff to win over Tyria. So of the first two I think I'll go Saki first, partly for cuteness, partly for dem tits. I think hers might be closer to "canon" anyways, just like Cloche's path was in AT2 (in my opinion).

Then second time I'll go Finnel. She has dat back, and if she really is a masochist like you guys say, I can't wait to see her. Then I'll go for the neutral ending. And finally, Tyria. Saving the best for last? Maybe. I mean, Tyria does look cute, and she makes up for the lack of chest for dat ass.


Also, about the bad end. I hear if you don't defeat a certain boss in a certain amount of time, you get the bad ending. Does the Bad End occur immediately after you lose to the boss, or is there some still some gameplay involved (i.e. you can control the character, can still save, etc.) before you see the bad end? I want to be warned if you can play after losing because I don't want to be in a situation where I avoid saving so I won't get stuck but won't actually see the bad end until 10 hours later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7043628

Yep it's a big robot or something.
You forgot Cocona's ending!

[Anonymous No.]

Should I finish the second game before I play the third? I've beaten the first but have only gotten about 2/3 of the way through #2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7043907
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7043839

That's what I meant by neutral ending.

Also, does bad end occur immediate or not? That's the more important thing I want to know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7043907

Might as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7040428
>>7040435

Haha, I did the same thing. I went out and bought a PS3 and a 60" TV just for AT3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7044000

Bad end occur immediately after the boss, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7044269

Thanks! This helps me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7042830

Finnel > Tilia > Cocona > Saki is probably going to be my personal route. Even then I doubt I'll bother with Saki but I'll just have to see.

Really enjoying Valkyria so far, definately glad I got a PS3 now.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to install AT3 right now, could anyone help? It said something about installing data to HDD, could only hit enter and I did. Now I have a message like;
"インストールに失＿しました
ゲームデータを＿＿＿＿インストールを行ってください"

Is this an error message or what? I see no progress bar for installing, and I can only exit with PS button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7046004

It is an error. You don't have a screencap of the actual message?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7046034
I just got ps3 recently so not sure how take screencaps on it, I could have gotten my phone though.

I tried a couple more times and it worked randomly. Hope it actually finishes though.

[Anonymous No.]

Saw a few posts in another Ar Tonelico thread, I want to know what you ATbros think:

>Just played AT2. Anyone else think that the first game has a much better story and pacing? Everything just went downhill after the end of phase 1... Also, I miss all the NOT SO FAST BUCKO moments before revealing a new phase. It's like all the phases don't even matter here

>[...]However, I think another problem with AT2's storyline is that it was too complex for its own good. AT1 was more simple, yet enjoyable. Two, however?

>Well, I think complex is good. Like Phase 1 in AT2 topped AT1's Phase 1. It's just that later on, the characters just feel as though they are just wandering around rather than having that clear cut goal. I can't really describe it in words but the first game had all the buildup like you were going to face the final boss then all of a sudden bam! "Phase 1 end. Phase 2 start..." Then you will be like HOLY FUCK THERE'S MORE?


tl;dr A few people thought AT1's pacing was better and had a simpler story, while AT2's pacing suffered while having a complex story

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047169
I can agree with that, yeah.

In AT1 Lyner and co. almost always had clear goals, which had gravity and drove forward their actions quite well.

In AT2 a lot of time was spent developing the relationship between Luka and Cloche in the Infelsphere, which slowly unlocked as events happened in the waking world. However, those events seemed a bit meandering, and in the end they never really got anywhere until the cat was out of the bag. Then the plot could finally move on. They also spent a little too much time on the Chester/Lakra/Amelia bit, which didn't have much to do with the central plot.

[Anonymous No.]

does AT3 have the ps3 screenshot function?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7047169
AT1 has a nice flow to it; each event segues into the next nicely. AT2 constantly shifts gears between "we have nothing to do at the moment so let's go to Luca's house" and "oh my god the world is ending right now holy shit we're all going to die hurry the fuck up." I always chose the latter times for diving and bathing.

The Divine Army's attacking? The Rim's falling? Third Impact's occurring? Sounds like a good time for a bath.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049119
Or spending two hours walking in and out of shops to clear all the events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049126
Oh yeah, all those damn store events really broke up the flow of the plot. Go in and out ten times, only to repeat it again over at Spica, and then Soraneko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049160
I really did like the shop and synthesis events, but there were definitely way too many of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7026625
Italian fag here, probably i'll be 2 weeks late because i'll order it from england and the games usually take 1 week to arrive here.

[Anonymous No.]

Does who you choice to side with at the beginning+ of AT2 affect much of the story after the floating continent?

[Anonymous No.]

I wanted to buy AT3 but i never played any AT chapter, will this be a problem with the story? Like, not understanding a thing of what's happening, and so on.

[Anonymous No.]

While I procastinated playing them for a very long time, with Qoga coming I'm going to marathon AT 1 and 2. Wish me luck. I'm going to play them on PS2, so I'm probably up for some fun with the dub. Also, 2 has some sort of point of no return for diving, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049649
...wait, AT1 actually has dual voice options?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049649
Advancing past the level 5 of one heroine locks the other heroines' levels 5. They warn you with a choice thought so there's virtually no error margin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049331
Not really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049660
I'm always willing to give dubs a chance, but switch AT1 over to Jap the moment Shurelia opened her mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050223

Her voice is fine, it's her out-of-Linkage battle voice that's the problem. She sounds more robotic than her Linkage form!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049126
>>7049160
>>7049230

Seriously. It doesn't help that I'm kind of OCD so I feel the need to clear them all until they stop appearing before moving on with the plot. The conversations are fun to read, but it's not so fun having to run back and forth into each shop a hundred times.

If Qoga has shop events I hope they do it better than here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049649

To add to what >>7049662 said:

You could wait until right before the last battle before devoting yourself to any heroine. Make a separate save at that point, and you can use that save to get three endings without having to play through the game again. You'll have to load up the save before the big decision in phase 1 if you want the fourth ending, though, since you'll automatically get locked out of the ending of the heroine you didn't choose in phase 1.

The drawback to waiting until the last boss before your devotion is that, obviously, you'll be gimped out of costumes and song magic. Not to mention you probably won't get to use them except for the last battle, unless you go IDP hunting which is optional. And you'll have to wait such a long time to advance through someone's Cosmosphere if you really like the Cosmospheres in the game.

So, it's up to you. Whether you'll do the quickest way to get three endings at once, but have a gimped arsenal and not have much use of the spells and costumes you get. Or, devote yourself to the heroine of your choice as early as possible, but will have to play through a longer length of time to get the other ends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050497
I played through Cloche path and got Cloche ending. Then I went back and played through Luca path with Jacqli ending, then I watched the other stuff on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050382
It doesn't have shop events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7052744

Well, I guess that's good. Is there some something close to it? There's still synthesis with the heroines and such, right? If so, I hope the heroines are separated in tabs like in AT2. In AT1 it was a pain trying to remember who created what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7050374
>>7050223
Actually, she wasn't that bad at the beginning. Regarding dubs, I'm always willing to give them a chance, there's even an instance or two where I like them more. Like Atelier Iris 1. I found the original voices just so... inappropriate.
Barrel.

[Anonymous No.]

Hell yeah, high five to everyone who brought a ps3 and hdtv for this game too.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm close to the midpoint in AT2. For AT3, I sold the only PS3 I had last summer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056252
You have a week to buy a new one, then.

Mir might forgive you for being an ignorant inferior being (if she's in a good mood) but try explaining to Harve-sama why you'll be missing out on the game of the year, all years.

[Tnophelia No.]

I am probably the only one in this thread that isn't fucking disgusting looking or hairy, so yeah.

Time for my own Beach Episode!

[Anonymous No.]

>>7056214
I boughtan HDTV for Final Fantasy XIII, but AT3 is okay too.

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope the PAL release doesn't take too long, I don't support US releases and would much rather support my own turf.

Or I'll just get the English Asian version, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057484

March 15th NA
April 1st EU

Not that long to wait.

[Anonymous No.]

AT2 player here, I'm finally at the end of the game. I didn't think this would take me so long. I started last month and thought I would get all four ends by the time AT3 comes out. This game is pretty long, my gameplay clock states it's over 50 hours. I blame the shop events.

Looks like I'm going into overtime, i.e. I'll still be playing 2 when Qoga comes out which means I"ll need to hold off on Qoga until I'm completely done with 2. Joy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058040
If it helps you can do the third girl and no girl ends and the one route ending in one save. Just don't go over level 5 in Cloche/Luca's sphere until right before the last boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057271

>I bought an HDTV for Final Fantasy XIII

I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058083

Oh, I'm taking my advice to heart after I beat the game the first time. I made a separate save right before the final dungeon and then went over Cloche's Level 5 because I wanted to have SOME use for her costumes and spells (I even went around IDP hunting a bit so I can get the costume talk topics). Then I saw how big and huge the last dungeon was and how it takes like 10+ battles to reduce the encounter gauge by 1. Yeah. No way.

So after I beat the game and get Cloche's ending, I'll load up the other save, get to the point where I'm before the last boss, then go for either the Third Reyvateil's ending or the Neutral ending, then whatever end I didn't see yet.

This also means I'll have to load up the save in Phase 1 to choose Luca if I want to see her route and end. Another 40-50 hours of play. Yay. Damn you shop events. At least I can cheat with max gold so that I can buy out all the items in a shop so I don't have to worry about running around if I don't have enough ingredients.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7049354
Anyone can answer this? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7057260
Goddamn shitframe is so cute.

>>7049354
>>7058288
No need to play previous titles but it'll help you understand the world they live in a lot more. Some characters are recurring too, so you'll be missing out quite a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058270 here

Meant to say

>take YOUR advice

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058319
Ok thank you.
I'll try AT2 then, even thou i'm currently playing Persona 4 and Odin Sphere.

[Anonymous No.]

Took me all of yesterday and a few more hours today, but I finally recruited all of the IPDs into the fan club. Time to give the final boss a face full of Replakia-charged Phantasmagoria. Then it's time to blitz through the game again for the other three endings.

Sort of in the same boat as >>7058040 but I think that cutting out the IPDs, shop events, and synthesis will drastically reduce the length of the game. My clock is a little over 50 hours right now, but I seriously think the game can be 20+ hours shorter by just sticking the main story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058449

Not really.More like 35 hours or so. Maybe 30 if you ditched the idea of going futher than lvl 5 in the cosmosphere since sometimes it takes huge effort to get those talk topics if you barely bothered with synthesis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058449
>>7058537

I think it's just like someone said before, while the shop events are fun to read there are just *way* too many of them. And the fact that you can only see 2 shop events at once, requiring you to get into battles to re-activate them*, instead of allowing you to see all 5 or so of them at once, makes it take even more time.

* You can also re-activate the events of the shop you were viewing by entering events of other shops (which saves a bit more time than just battling), but this would have sounded confusing if I put this sentence in the same line as the paragraph above.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know if I asked this already, but just to be sure:

In AT2 are the Third Reyvateil's and Neutral endings exactly the same in both Cloche's and Luca's routes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058449
During my last run through AT2 (going straight for Jakuri's ending, of course) I completely lost track of what I was supposed to be doing plot-wise from time to time because I spent so much time tracking down IPDs and running back and forth across the world map to get all the store events.

As funny as they were, I'm sort of relieved I won't have to do that again in Qoga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7058738
I can't say I've confirmed it with my own eyes, but I can't imagine any reason they shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, I finally just beat Ar Tonelico 2 a few minutes ago. I fought the last boss without using Replakia and what do you know -- the boss was kinda sorta challenging! I mean, nobody died but it was one of the few bosses that brought the vanguards near-death. And the attacks were kinda cool even though they made guarding an annoyance. Still, I think I had a bit harder time with the first time I fought AT1's last boss -- I didn't use too much of the stronger enhancement crystals there, so almost all her attacks brought me down to half or less HP and it took me longer to defeat her. That's a good thing, though, because I like my last bosses challenging. The second time I fought her, though, I did use more enhancements and it was almost too easy...

tl;dr Ar Tonelico 2 was mostly easy. It's pretty bad when the high-level IDPs are more powerful than the final boss.


By the way, I got Cloche's ending. I hnnng'd. Nice epilouge with Cocona and the Third Reyvateil, too, it gets me more pumped for ATQ. And the Extras menu is better than AT1's -- I didn't know it had an event viewer for talk topics and cosmospheres and such, either! Very handy. I hope Qoga also has a good Extras menu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059323
I also wrapped up Cloche's ending today. Used Replakia because I spent so much fucking time on those IPDs that I wanted to get something out it. And it seems like the individual endings are a little more robust than AT1's. Good stuff.

>I like being scolded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7059428
>>7059323 here

Being presented with a dialouge option in the middle of the epilouge caught me off-guard. I chose the "best" answer first time ([I fell in love with you] ">when I saw you crying") but I made a save state so I'm gonna see the other two options next time I play.

Now, I just need to get Jacqli and neutral endings -- I'll have to go through the final dungeon again (see >>7058270 for details) but thankfully Sasha's shop has the encounter cancelling item and I'm just gonna Replakia-smash the boss this time anyway so I don't need to gain any more levels.

The only problem is having to get Luca's ending. Since they made choosing the route all the way at the beginning of the game instead of the middle of the game, that's 30-40 hours of gameplay again. Boooo, Gust.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anyone else find the final battle in Ar Tonelico 2 kind of sad in a way? I mean, practically the entire plot started because Infel was devastated at losing Nenesha, and doesn't want to feel that pain of loss ever again. And then the atmosphere and the music and Infel and Nenesha holding hands throughout the battle... Man.

I feel a bit worse for Nenesha. She dies rather unceremoniously after the battle without a final goodbye or seeing what the heroes accomplished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7060183

Yeah, the antagonist's viewpoint is pretty easy to sympathize with (emotional motivations aside) when you take into account the setting of AT2. The residents of Metafalss are a small group of humans clinging to life on the decaying ruins of a tower overlooking a dying world. The urgency of the situation is pretty much lost on the protagonists, but not on Infel.. Drastic measures are required to maintain humanity's existence, and the characters in AT2 most certainly didn't resolve the underlying problems at the end of the game.

The line between humans and machines is very blurred in the AT world to begin with; The reyvateil "code" is embedded directly into the DNA of all humans themselves, and for reyvateils the tower might as well be considered an extension of their body (or reyvateils are an extension of the tower, take your pick). IPDs already belong to a subconscious "network", as well. While it might be rather drastic from our point of view, in the AT universe SUBLIMATION is not all that crazy of an idea.

[Anonymous No.]

One week left until release day.

Are you excited, /jp/? Hey, you're excited, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7062655
>mea riura sev

[Anonymous No.]

>>7060183
Go through Luca's cosmosphere and let's see if you feel sorry for Nenesha.

Sublimation ~ omness chs ciel sos infel certainly is an awesome song, though the content of the lyrics were mostly about suicide and giving up your body. Creepy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7062655
My loins tingle with anticipation. And I think I just might be able to wrap up AT2 by then. The game moves a lot faster when you just skim the dialogue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7062724

Is that so? Can't wait to get to Luca's route then, especially knowing that whole thing about the person in your spoiler.

The final battle theme was nice. And while it isn't quite as epic for a "final battle feeling" like the boss themes in the next-to-last battle or Harmonius from Ar Tonelico 1, it fit the context of the battle so very well.

By the way, anyone else notice that in both AT1 and AT2, you start off fighting a huge, ugly monster, then in the actual last battle you fight the Big Bad's smaller, human forms?


Also, just beat it with Cocona's ending a little bit ago. It isn't as funny as Cloche's ending but it was a bit more dawwish. Now for Jacqli's ending and then it's time for Luca's route. Hope it's like the other anon said in that the game goes faster if you skim the scenes... although last of Phase 1 and all of Phase 2 will be pretty different so I can't afford to skim. Darn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7062655
My body is ready.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7062996
>Hope it's like the other anon said in that the game goes faster if you skim the scenes

Well, for reference, my old save file tells me it took 6:45 to reach the decision my first time around, but this time I got there in about 3:45. I slowed down to take in some of the important plot points again, but for early cosmosphere levels, shop and synthesis events, and some of the less relevant text, I just pounded the X button. Started a fresh file because of a couple stupidly easy to miss talk topics.

[Anonymous No.]

Question to those who played the japanese version of Ar Tonelico Qoga: How does that game handle routes and Cosmospheres in comparison to the other two entries?

Like, in Ar Tonelico 1 - The only thing that really matters is the choice you make at the beginning of Phase 2. You choose between one of the two heroines' routes, and the heroine you chose is the ending you'll get. You'll get locked out of the other's. You can completely finish all three Reyvateils' Cosmospheres. To get a slightly extended ending and Shurelia's ending you have to complete her Cosmosphere and then in a literal last-minute decision choose between her or the Reyvateil you chose back in Phase 2.

In Ar Tonelico 2 - The decision to choose between the two routes is near the end of Phase 1. You get locked out of the other heroine's ending. Since Croix doesn't believe in pimpin', you can only devote yourself to one girl, which you decide on at the end of Level 5 in their Cosmosphere (you can also choose to stay friends, locking you out, or to give you more time and decide later). Whoever you devote yourself to, that's the heroine whose ending you'll get, and you get locked out of everyone else's and can't go pass their Level 5. If you didn't choose anybody, you get a neutral/default ending. It's encouraged to wait until right before the last boss before deciding since that allows you to see three endings at once.


So I'm wondering how Qoga does it. Oh, and please keep spoilers to a minimal if possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064093
if you choose saki's route finnel dies

vice versa

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064154

Nigga you best be trolling

[Anonymous No.]

So i found the flash cosmosphere translation at
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/ and finished the 1st binary field. Got moonrunes for the password for 2nd binary, what do? (spoilers for AT2)

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064093
In ATQ, you're presented with different choices throughout the game that make conflict between the two main girls (well, duh.) This time around, however, it features Hearts on the Reyvateil's portrait to show how many times you've helped her, thus it's easier to keep note on which route you're doing. Three hearts means good, full ending. Everything else results in the protagonist fucking Cocona, fucking Tyria, and whatnot.

Oh, and >>7064154 is true. Sorry for the spoilers, but it's better that you know what to expect.

And, by last, Good and Bad endings are decided by beating a certain boss within an amount of time. Take too long, BAD END. Be fast, GOOD END.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064502
>Oh, and >>7064154 is true. Sorry for the spoilers, but it's better that you know what to expect.

No it's not, not expecting it makes it better! Damn guys, there was no need to be a dick for the sake of being a dick after I asked so nicely.

Your first paragraph and your last paragraph was what I actually wanted to know.

[Anonymous No.]

only few rpgs gets me this excited, P5 and this. takes the story telling seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064562
Welp, sorry, bro.

But you'd feel horrible once it happened, either way.

Enjoy not being able to do another girl's route, as it kills off your previous waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064589

Phooey. I wish I didn't ask then. I forget where I am sometimes (4chan).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064596
Oh, my. Again, I apologize.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064611

Mmm. Well, it's all right I guess. It seems like I can do something about it, though -- certainly they wouldn't end the final entry in the series requiring you to kill off the other heroine and making you feel like shit despite saving the world (again).

[Anonymous No.]

I need some advise. I just finished Misha's route with both hers and Shurelia's endings, which I liked a lot. The problem is... I don't really like Aurica. I'm running out of time to play AT and AT2 before AT3 is out so I'd rather not waste time, but at the same time I love the setting of this saga and Aurica's route looks like it'll have plenty of stuff about the Goddesses and such.

What do I do, playing her route or just spoiling myself about it?

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>inb4 2/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066726
It might be worth it for you to play her route just to see how her Act 2 differed from Misha's, but if you don't really care about that then just watch her ending on youtube or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066745
Is her Act 3 much different than Misha's? If it just has minor differences I guess I'll do Act 2 and move on to AT2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066757
Sounds like a good plan. Her act 3 is almost exactly the same as Misha's from what I remember.

[Anonymous No.]

Shurelia is a moe Frankenstein. Why is she so irresistable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066757
I played Aurica's route and yes, there are some fairly large differences, but it's really nothing like game-changing in the long run and you can always watch it online as was said. You're better off spending time on 2 (which was better at least in the gameplay aspect in my opinion).

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066773
here
>>7066771
Sorry, I need to learn to read the question. This guy is totally right, Act 3 is almost the exact same.

[Anonymous No.]

Off to play Aurica's Act 2, then. Thanks for your help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066787
If you're lazy to replay 20 hours of the game or so in a speedrun just use this http://lparchive.org/Ar-Tonelico/

Such a thing exists for AT2 as well.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/choujigengameneptune/review.html?tag=result%3Bscore%3B0
>female reviewers

[Anonymous No.]

Well first it was Cloche, then Cocona, now I've seen the Third Reyvateil's ending. Oh man, that was quite good. I never expected hearing Croix sing a hymmnos for Jacqli, either.

The only true drawback of Third Reyvateil's route, she doesn't get a wedding CG at the end of her Cosmosphere. Although the way she goes about it was funny.

I almost 100%'d her talk topics, until I saw that you had to have 50 and 80 IPDs in Cloche's fan club, and I'm like, no. No way I'm going to spend that much time hunting down IDPs, doing that Dive Therapy (one of the weirdest mechanics of the game), AND fulfilling their fan club membership requirements.

Anyway, now I have to do Luca's route. That's the last thing I have to do and I'll be done with AT2 for good.

[Anonymous No.]

who has a better act 2 in AT2? I'm about to replay it but i can't decide who to side with at the first choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7067992
Cloche by far, but they're both honestly kind of lame and the differences really don't last that long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7068010
I'll second this. I'm one of these anons trying to wrap up AT2 before Tuesday; I'm just about done with Luca's Phase 2 and it was definitely inferior to Cloche's.

The one good thing about it, though, was the catfight at the end of Infelsphere 3. Luca starts going off about how Cloche's breasts are just sacks of fat, and that she's probably flabby underneath her corset. That was pretty hot and made me want Cloche even more.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone know how to get rid of these black lines that cover the spites?

[Anonymous No.]

anyone know how to get rid of these black lines that cover the spites?

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>7068907
Make them whole again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7068907
I believe using native resolution in GSdx9 settings fixes most graphical errors

[Anonymous No.]

>>7068907
Put your glasses on, Shiki.

[Anonymous No.]

I never see fanart of the enemy reyvateil you fight. Any out there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7068571
>>7068010
Meh, I found Luca's route better. At least she didn't annoy me. Jacqli is superior, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7066787 here

Just finished Aurica's Phase 2. It was alright I guess, and somewhat challenging at the end because I skipped all the battles so I was terribly underleveled for the last boss. Still beat it at the first try but I sure had to use healing items. Anyway, I don't really understand what Aurica is even doing in the game. It feels as if her route was a way of saying "Look, I'm related to the story, I'm the descend of Tyria! but everything still revolved around Misha (which is ultimately a good thing because I love her).

Anyway, great game. I feel kind of silly for postponing this until AT3's release was so imminent. One week or so to go through AT2 now, considering shipping time and all that shit. I hope it's as enjoyable as the first game.

[Anonymous No.]

OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY OH BOY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7071275
Paypal just lifted $87.19 USD from my account as well.
Looks like the day is finally upon us, boys.

Not to stew in a perpetual state of rage for 3+ weeks as I wait for the package to arrive. With my luck I'll get fined/busted by customs too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7071086
Aurica is relevant because she is the inventor of the single most important item on all of Ar Ceil. BBQ Soda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7071331

I know exactly how you feel.. and I don't give a fuck. I just want my calendar collection regardless of fees. And I'll have to go through this all over again with Totori too, most likely.

[Anonymous No.]

Finally recieved AT2 settei book I've ordered a while ago. I can't read it and the scans are available anyway, so I don't really know what to do with it. Didn't expect it to be this heavy.
But I already want the AT1 one. Is it like the thing they say about figs - you can't stop after getting your first one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7071338
Ok, I'll give you that, BBQ Soda is the pinnacle of cooking. Though grandmelding with Shurelia was more fun because she did bunny bombs, bunny food and other random bunny things.

Anyway, I started AT2 and I'm liking it a lot so far - the prologue was much more interesting than the first game's. The gameplay looks much better too, as I'd heard. It finally feels like I'm doing something, which is nice after AT. On the other hand, the map movement is kind of derp. Croix moves like a mongoloid, has an ugly sprite, can't even jump (I was jumping like a retard all the time with Lyner, it feels weird now) and the map itself is somehow more... 3D? and I still haven't gotten used to it. It's something minor so I don't really care, will keep playing to complete it all before AT3 is out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072099
summerfag detected

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072110
...What?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072130
The fact that you don't know what I mean speaks volumes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072150
It's more like I don't know why are you calling me a newfriend because of that post, but whatever floats your boat. At most I'm a newcomer in AT threads, which I've avoided like the plague because I'd rather not get my ass spoiled on something I was eventually going to play.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7071086
>>7071338

Well, I like Aurica because she has a secret femdom fetish. With her as the dom. And wants to dress stripperifically. She'd probably be a freak in bed.

It's too bad her real self is too shy to do that. If only there's a way to bring out the "real" her...

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072176
>whatever floats your boat
This is why i hate newfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7072110
>>7072150
>>7073138

^ What the fuck is this dude's problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>7073383
Judging by your recent posts, you really don't belong here. Kindly leave if you want to keep your sanity intact, normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7073437

I'm not the Shurelia guy, I just really want to know what your problem is.

[Anonymous No.]

its just some random troll, ignore the idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Nisa charge shipping in the united states, thought I read somewhere they offer free shipping now, but I honestly can't remember

[Anonymous No.]

>>7073568

Free shipping option became available since Neptunia.

[Anonymous No.]

Well I just finished Valkyria Chronicles and it was pretty damn good. I've just started Rorona and I'm honestly surprised.. I thought she'd sound/act a lot more mature but instead I was met with HNNNNGGGGG instead. Hopefully I can finish it up before AT3 comes. I'm not sure if my body can hold out but I'm going to damn well try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7073943
She's even cuter here.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>7074433
what that?

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>7074547

[Anonymous No.]

>>7074547

Spambot's on /jp/ now?

[Anonymous No.]

Payment accepted and all, but us poor European brothers will have to wait forever to get the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7074466

Are you one of those assholes that sells on copies of the game for 3-4 times the original price on Amazon/eBay etc? That shit annoys me so much.

>>7074433

I already seen it when Bangkok posted it before, I'd still like to know just who she is though.

>>7075987

It's worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

Imperishable bump

[Anonymous No.]

E-mail shipping confirmation recieved.

Will be getting Monday next week, worst-case scenario.

FUCK YES.

[Anonymous No.]

Presenting to you, /jp/, Ar Tonelico Qoga reviewed by a female!

http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Ar_tonelico_Qoga/index.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078054
Well, I expected worse. Qoga takes the character fanservice and makes it lean towards blatant sexy fanservice, so it's obvious females will like it less.
But it's good enough she didn't start raving about sexism and and chauvinism and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>It's no secret that I've got a soft spot for the Ar tonelico series. The PlayStation 2 titles featured a quality battle system that offered something more engaging than the average RPG.

Wha-

>Cons:
>Overused dungeons, tasteless sexual content, typical JRPG plot, sluggish battles, high random encounter rate.

Ok, stopped reading there before I even got to the first paragraph in the main article. You don't claim you love the first two games in the series then come out with something as stupid as that.

>Dragon Age 2 gets 88%

Oh dear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078054
I'm surprised there was PRAISE for the actual writing, even when it derives into "HURR DES GIRL GET NEKKID" after that.

And, as >>7078103 pointed out, those are flaws present in the first two games, as well. In fact, only thing I can actually agree with the reviewer in is the gameplay, though she forgot to mention the word "shallow", which I believe encompasses it perfectly.

[Anonymous No.]

I know this is an AT thread, but is Atelier Rorona any good? I haven't played the other atelier games because my ps2 is fucked

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078387
Use an emulator to play the other games. If you've never played an Atelier/Mana Khemia game, better think twice before playing Rorona.

[Anonymous No.]

The art book is available at GAME for any gentlemen in the UK. I just ordered a copy from GAME solely for the art book despite having pre-ordered the calendar version from the NISA store months ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078103
In fairness to her, the DA2 guy is a different reviewer. I attempted to view her other reviews to serve as a comparison, but didn't find anything particularly interesting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078589

I know, it was more a jab at the site than anything else. I just thought it was silly that she opens the article referring to the battle system in AT1/AT2 which, in all fairness, were pretty dull. Then she calls out the series on the innuendo/"Sexual content" then has the nerve to say that it's a typical JRPG plot. Anyone who has played the first two games AND the final third game can see that the story is far from generic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078749
>then has the nerve to say that it's a typical JRPG plot. Anyone who has played the first two games AND the final third game can see that the story is far from generic.

My guess is if you asked her why, she would have said something stupid like saving the world. Which is... how 99% of all RPGs and action games end? The journey is what is important, and Ar Tonelicos have good journeys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078431
i've played mana khemia, but not atelier
do the stories continue eachother or is it like ar tonelico with cameos and mentions?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078749
>then has the nerve to say that it's a typical JRPG plot. Anyone who has played the first two games AND the final third game can see that the story is far from generic.

My guess is if you asked her why, she would have said something stupid like saving the world. Which is... how 99% of all RPGs and action games end? The journey is what is important, and Ar Tonelicos don't have your typical journeys to me. I find them quite good, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078786
It's more of the latter. To explain Rorona easily, it's a game more focused on item crafting instead of combat. The combat's quite mediocre, actually. Characters are fine, but I feel there should've been more events. And crafting is surprisingly fun, actually.

It's a decent game, but not a GREAT, nor a bad, one.

>>7078787
...Which is even more hilarious when you take in account the fact that every single thing in Ar Tonelico has a DEEPER meaning. At least she praised the writing and called the story "worthy", even when it was one of the most downrated sections of the review.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7064093
>>7064154
>>7064502
That's one of the ends, the other heroine dies if you Don't defeat Myu in time. In the true end everyone lives on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078822

So all this time I was spoiled on the bad end? Oh my. All this time I thought those guys were talking about the real ends. I THOUGHT something was kinda fishy.

Thank you, anon. Thank you so much. I feel a lot better now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078812
>...Which is even more hilarious when you take in account the fact that every single thing in Ar Tonelico has a DEEPER meaning.

I really like the plots in the two games I played so far. I already mentioned how I liked AT2's final fight in >>7060183, and another anon said you could probably even sympathize with the Big Bad. And in AT1, you actually get PUNISHED with the bad end if you go in guns blazing killing its Big Bad to save the world, and the main character feels like a dick afterwards. To really win the game, you had to understand everything she went through. That's kinda neat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078831
IIRC, there were a few flags that decided the ending you get. Whether you stop the singing of Arphage and if you defeat the guardian Myu in time.

And regarding the CS, you can advance up to the eighth level before locking into the heroine's route.

[Anonymous No.]

It's neat in Atelier Rorona how it focused more on item synthesizing and character relationships over fighting and saving the world. But I'm glad that Atelier Totori is supposedly a more traditional adventure. The time management in Rorona can get pretty damn ridiculous at times, especially with dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078863
>And regarding the CS, you can advance up to the eighth level before locking into the heroine's route.

Do you mean, "if you get pass eighth level you're locked onto her ending"? I thought it was as simple as getting 3 hearts with either Saki or Finnel and you're automatically on their ending. Unless you mean you have to get pass that level with Tyria (while not fulfilling the requirements for titty moe and dat back) to get her end.

Also, I'm glad to see they raised the locked out level higher. In AT2 you really got gimped on costumes and spells for any Reyvateil you're not going for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078908
Let me rephrase it, you can't get further than the 8th level unless you're in the heroine's route.

The song magic system is modified. You get new Hyuma (which are like install crystals of AT) and new personalities as you advance in the CS, you don't get new songs per se.

Each personality (a fancier costume if you want) has only 1 song/spell that is strengthened based on the purge level (how much clothing the heroine has on).

My info might not be very accurate, it's been a while since I've watched the replay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078927

Oh, okay.

And I heard about the 1 song thing. That really stinks, I'll miss the multiple song magics and their fairies and attacks from the previous two games. At least it seems costumes are still intact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078908
> In AT2 you really got gimped on costumes and spells for any Reyvateil you're not going for.

Don't I feel it? Low level with no equipment upgrade run and I'm doing the stupid thing by gunning to get both Cloche and Jakuri's ending on the single save so I cannot go past the 5th Cosmosphere for both until at the end of the game. Jakuri's spells and Synchronities are the only things letting me kill stuff.
Cloche is the worst because you're only getting 4 cosmospheres worth of spells and costumes due to the 3rd level being the way it is.

It does show me the sheer awesomness of Jakuri vs the other reyvateils when she has 2x the mana pool right off the bat and her stock standard spells are more powerful than the highest level spells I could get at a L5 cosmosphere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078944 here

Forgot to say thanks again

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.at2.metalbat.com/?page_id=2

Where the fuck is my complete AT2 translation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7078961

When Duke Nukem For-- crap, can't make that joke anymore.

Well, I'm glad I didn't sit around waiting for the fantranslation, so I just went on and played the US version on the emulator. Yeah, the localization... stinks. But at least I got to play it and know almost* everything about AT2. Now I can move on to AT3.

* Still gotta do Luca's route.

[Anonymous No.]

I've played AT2 about four hours in and I already don't like Luca. At least the battle system is a little less easy than in the first game, though.

[Anonymous No.]

do you think Gust would make a "spiritual successor" to Ar Tonelico?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7079414
I'm quite sure they'll make prequels, for one.

Would be nice some regarding the war of the Reyvateils, or hell, the history of Ar Ciel itself that got explained mostly in side material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7079414

I wouldn't mind seeing a modern day take on it. They'd probably call it "psychotherapy" or something rather than "Diving" when you try to help your girlfriends' inner turmoils and clearing their head inspires special moves or cosplay ideas.

I'm pulling this idea out of my arse, of course. I doubt it'd happen, Gust seems to prefer medievalish/renaissance settings even though the world could have futuristic technology.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7076150

>Are you one of those assholes that sells on copies of the game for 3-4 times the original price on Amazon/eBay etc? That shit annoys me so much.

Nope, they're for me. At least for a good number of years. I might part with a few copies in 5-10 years or so when a sealed copy will fetch quite a bit, but mostly I just bought them because I have to reward people for supporting my perverted tastes.

[Anonymous No.]

Ar Tonelico Qoga reviewed by a female; the second strike!

>Oh, I'm going to have fun with this. I'm sorry that you disagree with my review. However, you are wrong on just about every single point that you bring up, and it's clear that you're a fanboy whom will pitch a fit if any reviewer doesn't agree with you. Let's take your "argument" point by point.

>Strip everything sexual out of the game and it's still a generic ARPG with an obtuse battle system that's not very fun with some mediocre dialogue. I loved the original Ar Tonelico and I was a fan of AT2, even if it wasn't as good as the first one.

>I was unaware that you had played the game. Would you like for me to spell things out in the review? You're right that the story section is simplified - it's a review, not a wiki entry describing the plot. In regards to the 'hardly ever' comment, I'd be happy to give you a quick shot of just how wrong this statement is:

>One of the characters in your party is a female character from the previous game crossdressing as a male.

>Hm, absolutely no connection to previous games, check. Oh, wait, sorry, what's the exact opposite of that?

Continued next post, but of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7081485
>I took an example of a single character I dislike out of an entire slate. The individual characters, a few aside, are awful. Many are either one dimensional, uninteresting, or both. Are you telling me I shouldn't say when characterization in a game is awful? At least the characters in the previous titles had a modicum of depth to them.

>In regards to auto-battles, this game's battles are far and off too numerous and too long. You act as if this is some sort of feature that's not used in RPGs. Persona and Radiant Historia are two recent games, both incredibly popular, that featured autobattling to remove the tedium of grinding. There's a lot of grinding in AT3.

>[Insert ATQ screenshot here]

>[Insert Eternal Sonata screenshot here]

>Even compared to a port of an Xbox 360 title from years ago, these character models don't stack up. Forgive me if you're too much of an idiot to disagree.

>Fact of the matter is, making a world with history doesn't make it any good. To quote Ken Rolston of Oblivion fame, "I've seen 10,000 years of history from other people before, but I've seen a lot of it that wasn't any good! Sheer volume isn't enough." You can make history, give it what appears to be a unique sheen, and at the end of the day? It's all cliche. It's like half of the fantasy novels on the face of the planet, despite all of the words created for the world and the "unique" setting, it's just like all the rest.

>Would you like a more objective view? The game has a broken, obtuse battle system, subpar graphics, mediocre voice acting, and half of your player characters are borderline retarded.

...Deary me, continued next post, surprisingly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7081507
>It's of my opinion that the average RPG fan is going to dislike this game. The otaku will probably like this game - far be it from me to tell them not to. RPGFan sees literally more than a hundred thousand users over the course of a month - the otaku are a small amount of them. I'm not telling you not to like this game, if you like it, more power to you. This game is very carefully targeted, and despite the fact that I liked the first two titles, this one is so much more over the top with its sexual themes that it will cut out a great deal of the previous audience. Please, purchase the title and put your own opinion on it. I'm not telling you not to like the game, I'm telling you my experience with it, and that was a negative one. If you want objectivity, read a preview, but saying that a review shouldn't be subjective is a moronic statement.
Tl;Dr, her arguments:

>Herpa derpa gaems dont need lore i mean its not like I couldn't simplify The fucking Call of Cthulhu in a same manner

>Graphix r bad lol

>I do not understand the concept of different personas

I personally agree with her gameplay complaints, however.

Hard to believe this self-named "AT fan" can come up with such silly criticsms. The worst part of all? I made an account to reply to her argument, yet I have to wait for a silly Administrator to "approve my request".

Oh, and there's the typical banned guy and the "hurr u ownd him lol" in there, too.

Thread: http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=6611.360

Oh dear, I sure love opinions of someone that backs up her arguments in shallow statements and the barrier of moderation.

Courtesy of your Anonymous that loves delivering bad internet drama, but of course!

[Anonymous No.]

>cumdumpster "reviewer" (probably some shitty blog, lol) butthurt that men would rather play with their virtual girlfriends than her

[Anonymous No.]

>>7081519
Don't do that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7081519
>>>/v/

>>7081485
>>7081507
>>7081515
Well, this is rather entertaining. I couldn't take her seriously once she mentioned "otaku" and generalized a whole fanbase in a bunch of stinky neckbeards. I regret reading the other parts of the argument, however.

Also,

>Cannot reply to her because your account needs silly registrations and approval

This is why I actually come to LIKE 4chan, from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

In short:

Females should not review a game obviously targetted towards males.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7082072 here

Also, if you replace the girls with boys and had the same amount of "sexual content," she would be schlicking it off. Which might end up supporting my "females shouldn't review male-oriented games" argument.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember kids, reviews are nothing but personal comments on the game. 99% of reviews don't actually know HOW to review a game little less take time to play it more than an hour.

I could go on my normal "sexy armor complaint rant" but i'll refrain. Bottom line: don't trust reviews. Trust your friends and people on fourms with the same tastes as you.

[Anonymous No.]

At least the reviews didn't churn up a shitstorm as bad as Bayonetta's.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah same old story. Reviewers don't actually know how to review the game. And femmist that hates "over sexualization of females" complaint.

This is why you listen to your friends and seek out opinions of like-minded people.

[Anonymous No.]

> even if AT2 isn't as good as the first one

female reviewer knows her shit, start shitstorm.

[Anonymous No.]

>Thread: http://www.rpgfan.com/boards/index.php?topic=6611.360

My fucking god what a bunch of retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7081485
>Ar Tonelico Qoga reviewed by a female
>female
I stopped right there. I can tell that the review is bias and downright awful already.

[Anonymous No.]

AR TONELICO 3
SHIPPING
NOTICE

[Anonymous No.]

Just got my shipping confirmation notice. Though I wonder if I should hold off on playing it until I finally get an HDTV. Still have an SDTV and lately every game has teeny-arse text that are hard to read and makes for a less enjoyable experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7083195

That's the only reason I made the jump a few years ago. I'd say it's definately worth it these days, you could probably get a nice cheap 1080p 32" TV for £200 or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>People, presumably Americans, getting shipping notices
>Me, an Ausfag, not getting one when it will obviously take longer to arrive here
I'm not happy about this NIS. Not happy at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Shipping order confirmation yesterday evening. Makes me moist.

[Anonymous No.]

Got my shipping notice too. does USPS ship through weekends with express mail?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7084118
Some users have reported that they've already gotten their games, even.

But I doubt they do; and if they do, most likely you'll get it Monday.

Consider yourself lucky, I have to wait two fucking weeks before getting it.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god this thread started last month and it still lives. Italian fag here. Since the game would probably be stopped at custom and I'd have to pay a stupid amount of taxes, I decided to wait for the european release, which will allow me to get the game sooner in retrospective.
Still two weeks for me, tho. Atleast Neptunia and Yakuza 4 are next week.

Also, girls are always relevant in AT3 threads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7084144

Well, it's not about luck, it's about about willing to sperg for the more expensive delivery services.

[Anonymous No.]

Mine just arrived but I didn't get any soundtrack CD with my collectors' edition. anyone else have a similar experience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085133

Apparently they've fucked up, the NISA forums are saying the same thing. I'm kind of glad I ordered the EU version of the game too so I'll be getting the OST regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085133

Oh no. That doesn't sound good. I hope mines comes with the soundtrack CD, I would have to have to send it back and wait even more weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085254

I'm getting mixed answers regarding the issue after looking into it. I doubt people are stupid enough not to notice but some people are saying the CD is in a slip case between the game and the art book. Others are saying the CD is absolutely nowhere to be seen. NISA don't answer emails during the weekend from my experience so you'll most likely have to wait until Monday for an official answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085315
NISA glorious big boxes are hard to open, for one, so it wouldn't surprise me that some people miss the OST in 'em.

However, if some users really don't have the OST, my guess is they'll send it to them in another shipment.

It's most likely the former, though, 90% who bought Neptunia broke the box while trying to open it, after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085383
>It's most likely the former, though, 90% who bought Neptunia broke the box while trying to open it, after all.
What the fuck's with that box?

Anyway, ready to wait forever like all the other EU anons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085468
Nothing, actually. You just had to open it from the back, like with Rorona's box. Something too hard for folks to figure out, it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085531
I don't remember having any problem with the Rorona box, so I guess you're right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085531

People are just used to plowing into boxes not giving a fuck and using brute force opening it instead of paying attention and opening it from the back. Anyway it seems that Calendar orders have no OST. I'm not sure how NISA will fix this but it'll hit them pretty hard if they decide to send it out to everyone since shipping costs would be through the roof for people like me who ordered from the UK/Europe.

Also I just noticed >Posts: 315 so feel free to make a new thread some time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7085644

I ordered the calendar set... I'll be upset if there's no soundtrack with it.

NISA sure hasn't had much luck lately. First that whole Neptunia situation, now this.

[Anonymous No.]

ffffffffuck, it's 9pm and no delivery

Why the fuck do they use usps instead of usp

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086606

The game isn't even out until the 15th..

[Anonymous No.]

It seems hit and miss now, apparently. Some people are reporting having the OST, some aren't. Seems to be only occurring for calendar orders though, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086709,1
That's unfortunate, both for the people missing out on their CDs and NIS themselves. I suppose it's par for the course when you're dealing with a niche, but they've been having such a hard time lately. They don't deserve it.

Also, waiting warmly should someone feel inclined to make a new thread. Hopefully when this earthquake spam stops though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086709,2

Yeah, the universe seems to be against NISA lately. Kinda feel bad for them.

If no new thread is made by the next day, I'll try and make it myself.

[Anonymous No.]

NISA made quite a string of gaffes before (the AT2 bug and other things associated with that game; the MK I bug; not including dual audio for Disgaea DS despite the fact that virtually half of the 128MB cartridge was unused; seemingly promising extra scenarios for Rhapsody DS but cutting them; etc. etc.), so I daresay they've earned their reputation. Still, I think they've done much better recently, and prefer the direction they're going more than ATLUS USA.

[Anonymous No.]

What was the Mana Khemia bug? Is it present in the PS2 version?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086709,5
Apparently both Mana Khemia games had (multiple?) bugs. None quite on the level of AT2's though. Mana Khemia's main freezing bug had something to do with an optional dungeon. Some more info.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/945027-mana-khemia-2-fall-of-alchemy/43503277
http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/strategy/manakhemia2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-51158505&pid=945027

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086709,3

Feel free to make a new one whenever, I'm not even going to classify the Onsokumaru thread as a new thread. Also please link it here if you don't mind.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Is the calender any good? Also are there like pics of Tilia's ass for at least one month?

[Anonymous No.]

>>7086709,8

I'll post pictures in the new thread, they're just CG images of the characters in their final purge forms - pretty sure they're in the AT3 art book. Calendar is April 2011 to March 2012 with all of 2012 on the final page, apparently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>7094311
>>7094311
>>7094311
>>7094311
>>7094311
>>7094311

new thread