ITT: Nostalgia blast. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-LL0Kpba3Q

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Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:17:54 2011 No.7001981 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Nostalgia blast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-LL0Kpba3Q

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:24:54 2011 No.7001997 No one knows that feel? Look at the pic, listen to that song and think back, think back when erika was an intellectual rapist, think about her holier than thou attitude, think about when she was humiliated by battler Come, try to remember

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:26:54 2011 No.7002002 >>7001981 I don't think 1 year is enough to feel nostalgia Either way, Erika sucks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnTwpWn-7IM

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:28:54 2011 No.7002014 Erika's appearance marks the end of Umineko I loved. Fuck her.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:36:54 2011 No.7002037
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>>7002002

Bro,

Bro.

That's not what I mean bro, if you're gonna post some umineko shiznick, it's gotta be real subtle and story like. Those tracks stand out waaay too much. The more subtle story inducing ones are better.

here I'll post another as an example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as2se5qeRVc

See listen to this song man, and feel it. Think back about beatrice, the miracle of magic, imagine her creating all these amazing things with a wave of her golden pipe, you've gotta feel it. Imagine shes in a giant hall and spinning in bliss and rose petals are dancing around her.

Make that feel bro.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:38:54 2011 No.7002048 I'm only at ep4

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:44:54 2011 No.7002066
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4htiBiHWf6w

For this one, imagine, battlers inside of the guest house looking out of the window, maria and george are playing cards or some shit. and battlers just looking out the window at the storm thinking about the parents squabbling about inheritance and shit. You can hear the clock ticking, it's almost midnight. Feel with it guys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:45:54 2011 No.7002072 >>7002048 Prepare to be disappointed at EP7... maybe.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:51:54 2011 No.7002086
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4whOHoBLQM

This one. Think about the family who've finally gotten off the boat and arrived on Rokkenjima for the first time, think about them seeing the magnificient rose garden, imagine their nostalgia as kids thinking back on how they used to play here.

God does no one know my feel ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 03:59:54 2011 No.7002100 File: 204 KB, 367x300, reaction-godzilla-iknowthatfeel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7002086

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:01:54 2011 No.7002102 Am I the only one who think that Chiru is a letdown? I mean, EP5-8 have their moments, but Umineko's story slowly went downhill after EP3.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:03:54 2011 No.7002106 >>7002102 from what I have read here? you are absolutely not the only one. there are a LOT of people who feel like Chiru went completely off the rails

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:05:54 2011 No.7002108 I feel like I've listened to the full soundtrack as a whole too much to be able to be too nostalgic to it yet. Though there was a huge moment a month or two ago when I listen to shirabe oche and had intense nostalgia for EP2.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:11:54 2011 No.7002122 File: 52 KB, 700x683, beatrice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZsSGQWDH9s "This story is fictional Any resemblence to real people, events, etc is purely coincidental." Gives me shivers

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:19:54 2011 No.7002134

God Ryukishi07 is a monster. If you actually think about look at the universe he's created it's insane. Creativity is one thing but being able to communicate it into the minds of so many people is another. If I were a writer this guy would be a giant fucking wall of doom to me. This is true power to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:27:54 2011 No.7002141 >>7002102 Chiru was trash. I'm glad it's over. At least the soundtrack was good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:37:54 2011 No.7002159 >>7002141 Chiru was good for ep 5.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:49:54 2011 No.7002180 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctr63EBBX_k The overture

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:50:54 2011 No.7002181

I feel like I'm the only person who loves both Chiru and the original Umineko. It helps if you treat them as completely different games which happen to share characters and a central plot, which, well, they are.

>>7002086

I know that feel, but I'm actually more a fan of the scene just before it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7ZNTPVug

Not a single one of them knew when they got off the boat that they would never leave the island again. Not a single one of them knew that they were al going to die.

And that's why this is the saddest fucking theme in the entire goddamn series.

>>7002134

Also this. Umineko is like twice the length of War and Peace.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:50:54 2011 No.7002183 >>7001997 Because that's her theme, suitable for a mere human who can defeat a witch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRlvXz5jAWw

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:51:54 2011 No.7002188 >>7002180 I was sad when they stopped doing this bit after Ep2. Oh well, it was really nothing more than an extended Higurashi reference anyway.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:52:54 2011 No.7002189 >>7002181 I have to agree. Chiru is insanely different then the original in terms of theme and feel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 04:54:54 2011 No.7002195 >>7002181 OP here, sorry bro that made me think of george and shannons love affair. Guess we all got different vibes from the story.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:03:54 2011 No.7002202
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>>7002181
>>7002195
For me, it's the Oct4 beach scene - comes from reading Ep1 so many times before I had a copy of the full game. All the kid characters shooting the breeze, having fun...

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:04:54 2011 No.7002204
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>>7002181
>MFW in Rei the "best end" where everyone survives, Beato the 3rd, Kanon, Shannon, and Lion are their own selves, Rosa becomes a good mom, and everyone lives happily ever after happens.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:07:54 2011 No.7002206

>>7002204
First, construct a consistent interpretation of Ep1-8, which satisfies all the red, and provides unambiguous rules by which to understand what white is trustworthy and what is not.

Once you have done this, you are qualified to comment on the content of Umineko Shin.

Good luck dude; I'm hoping for a happy ending too.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:09:54 2011 No.7002208

>>7002204

Yeah, no. We already had that. It was called the first third of Ep8.

If Rei even happens I just want it to be Land of the Golden Witch, Yasu's final (and according to her, greatest) game. I want to see how she would have ended her tale, not how Touya and Hachijou think it should have ended.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:10:54 2011 No.7002209 >>7002202 Yeah bro I love that shit. I can see where you're coming from.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:10:54 2011 No.7002211 >>7002206 >construct a consistent interpretation of Ep1-8 This is impossible and should remain so. The ambiguity is the point. Ep1 is 100% solvable, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:11:54 2011 No.7002213 >>7002202 ...And then the trolling begins.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:16:53 2011 No.7002219 File: 314 KB, 640x480, nope.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7002213 I really liked how, on this page, Battler was getting confused over "which" Battler he was. It was a slick use of the medium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:17:54 2011 No.7002223 >>7002219 He wasn't confused. He just didn't want any tragedies to happen, which they did.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:18:54 2011 No.7002226 >>7002202 >>7002213 I really liked how, on that page, Battler was getting confused over "which" Battler he was. It was a slick use of the medium.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:19:54 2011 No.7002227 >>7002223 Sorry, tried to lightning edit there to clarify and I guess I didn't do it fast enough.

Anonymous Wed Feb 23 05:48:54 2011 No.7002267

>>7002181
>>7002134
Yet it doesn't contain even a quarter of the "content" of War and Peace.
He just dragged things on and on.
Umineko is a pretty small story in the end and for his "universe" he just took the Touhou formula except he took western demons and moefied them.
You guys are insane.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 06:19:54 2011 No.7002339 >>7002267 What a derp statement. I guess it's in the minds of the beholder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 06:38:54 2011 No.7002381 OP, I agree with you. I remember waiting on the translation of Episode 5, and how different it felt to Ep 1-4.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 23 06:43:54 2011 No.7002390 >>7001981 >Nostalgia blast. >Umineko is only 4 years old

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 15:39:54 2011 No.7007851 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTTd3Tq7L_0 Can't be more nostalgia blast than this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 15:49:54 2011 No.7007863 I don't feel nostalgia for Umineko, really I talk about it to much

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 15:52:54 2011 No.7007870 I don't feel nostalgia for Umineko, really I talk about it to much and list to it's ost to much. Also, it still have to end. Higurashi, now that's nostalgia

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:02:54 2011 No.7007894

>>7002206
>>7002204
Sometimes I forget Umineko already ended and it feels awesome, etc.
There are standalone theories like moonchan, but these just develop further what we are told in the solution to make it somehow more interesting. A lot of these are complete even now, so I think it would be okay to build Rei on one of these.

But if Ryukushi wants to top what he did in Saigoroshi, he needs to open the box and even then it's going to be hard. However, there are the implications that the whole E8 is written by a forever alone GM Battler and the game is still being dragged on.
While I am at it, if Ryukushi doesn't reason the fuck up, Umineko AND Higurashi is complete garbage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:06:54 2011 No.7007900 More Higurashi nostalgia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2AngQJmCqo

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:20:54 2011 No.7007930

>>7007894
>But if Ryukushi wants to top what he did in Saigoroshi, he needs to open the box and even then it's going to be hard. However, there are the implications that the whole E8 is written by a forever alone GM Battler and the game is still being dragged on.

What? No

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:30:54 2011 No.7007956

I still play the play the fighting game with folks.
But really, I sort of stopped caring about the story quite some while ago.
I only read the latest episode cause of some kind of sense of completionism.

I mean, backstory and character development is great and all, obviously. But you really don't need to spoonfeed it to your readers, that isn't necessary.
And Ep1 was the only episode that was actually great as a standalone, all the others only rode on the premise of the first episode, and that only worked because you always looked forward to it doing something good with the original premise.
But it never happened, instead it just kept adding new characters and new plothooks, without ever resolving anything, and each time they added something you thought that they may do something with the original premise with it, but no, they just kept adding stuff.

The fact that Umineko was falling in quality somewhat with more or less every episode, tried to hide behind each new thing added in each new episode. By switching the focus of interest, rather than resolving already built up interest.

And now, traditionally speaking, Umineko barely ever resolved anything properly. And now you might say "but it isn't a traditional work! Its better!", and sure, it all falls down to opinions in the end anyway, and sure, you might have grown to love the characters etc, so you are free to keep your opinion, but I can't say I can really call it that great objectively when it turned out as it did.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:36:54 2011 No.7007964 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrbSG7wKFaA Koji Kusanagi sure is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:40:54 2011 No.7007973 >Nostalgia for something that's only a couple years old IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:41:54 2011 No.7007976
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I liked Chiru, I think Erika was an awesome villain. I think will was a spectacular protagonist, and I think Bern's most villanious and sickest moments happened in Chiru and Lambda showed her true bro side. Battler was derpy as always but that's not new.

Problem?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:42:54 2011 No.7007980 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu_V5rjbLG8 Damn, i miss Hinamizawa crew...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 16:51:54 2011 No.7008000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9WiyqkAl9U&t=2m50s I miss Higurashi awesome scenes.

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 17:11:54 2011 No.7008057

OP, I shall call you Nostalgia Bro.

What R07 did in those scenes, with the help of the music of course, was... magic.
I can feel for the characters. I can feel the island, the storm, the loneliness in everybody's heart. The melancholic feeling that's everywhere in Rokkenjima.
I haven't read much, to be honest, but Umineko's world is the first that truly got a place inside my soul.

It's a shame EP7 and most of EP6 just don't show anything of that. R07 couldn't, or didn't want to, keep the awesomeness.
Nonetheless, I'll remember Umineko.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 17:36:54 2011 No.7008124 >>7008057 >I can feel for the characters. I can feel the island, the storm, the loneliness in everybody's heart. The melancholic feeling that's everywhere in Rokkenjima. I can't do any of these things anymore, knowing the truth Love is... dead

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 17:58:54 2011 No.7008155

Also, goddamn, "hope" makes me cry every single time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOq7ZNTPVug

It makes me remember the good ol' times when reading EPs 1 and 2, hoping the culprit was some evil bastard, not one in the lovable cast we were being introduced to. Alas...

>>7008124
It's a shame, dude. The "truth" is indeed... shit.
All that "without love it cannot be seen", and not forgetting about THE HEART, and what we got was... a crazy bitch with a senseless gamble.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:00:54 2011 No.7008167 >>7007976 Who's this Erika?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:02:54 2011 No.7008172 >>7008124 >Love is... dead There was no seed of love from the beggining. R07 never loved us. He never keep his promise of a fair, great mystery

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:16:54 2011 No.7008208

>But it never happened, instead it just kept adding new characters and new plothooks, without ever resolving anything, and each time they added something you thought that they may do something with the original premise with it, but no, they just kept adding stuff.

that was just his strategy to confuse you and make you stop thinking, obscuring the truth with more and more meta stuff.

then, when the last episode arrived he used the cheapest move. he just told people through his characters to stop thinking (that it supposedly "isn't important") and threw in an insult about goats, so that almost everyone will just give up and lose by default.

and boy, did it work. everyone was all "it isn't important/doesn't matter" like the simple minded sheep/goats, following the word of their master without thinking about it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:20:54 2011 No.7008222

>>7008208
You should read the reviews in egs if you think that worked.
At least in Japan most people call R07 on his bullshit.
And I can't believe some of the comments I read in this thread, Umineko wasn't too bad overall but how the fuck can it impact some of you that much?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:20:54 2011 No.7008225 >>7008172 >promise of a fair, great mystery Where exactly did he promise that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:24:54 2011 No.7008236 >>7008225 Love between the writer and reader.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:26:54 2011 No.7008241 >>7008236 That just meant that the mystery is solvable and, boy, what a solvable mystery it was.

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:28:54 2011 No.7008247
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For me, i can't hate Umineko. It loses his charm, but i can't hate something that i loved for so long. Though, i always recognize its bad points and how the trainwreck that Chiru was.
Still, amazing, unique experience. But i'm not sure i could recommend it to people, now

>>7008222

I wonder, any interview with R07 after ep VIII release? Did he comment the ending reaction? His blog? Anything?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:31:54 2011 No.7008259 >>7008247 He said that he lost the password to his mail, so he wouldn't be able to read e-mails sent after comiket.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:33:54 2011 No.7008264 >>7008222 You just have no love in you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:37:54 2011 No.7008285 >>7008225 All the talk about trust between an author and his readers? >>7008259 lolwat

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:56:54 2011 No.7008357 I just noticed there's some kind of "solution books" available for each episode on 07th Expansion's site. Anybody know whether they have actual new content in them or not?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 18:59:54 2011 No.7008376 How about the song that always plays when something really fucking boring is going on. that song makes it even worse man.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:10:54 2011 No.7008745 >>7008357 Oh, I didn't know about this. http://www.futabasha.co.jp/booksdb/book/bookview/978-4-575-16486-2.html Anybody knows what are these about?

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:31:54 2011 No.7008851

Umineko... I loved it so much.
But, Chiru definitely started to kill it... and I feel the "just stop thinking" ending was ridiculous. In Battler's words, "Why did you all stop thinking?!?"

So, this is what I am going to do.
I am going to play the lottery every week. A huge, national lottery. I will hope and hope for the miracle of gold.

And, if it is granted, I will try to create as wonderful a re-creation as I possibly can of Rokkenjima, including both Guesthouse and Mansion. There will be a chapel, rose garden, shed, etc.

Then, I will hire 17 actors.
Of course, they correspond to the characters. There will be no "Kinzo" actor. I myself will be nothing but an observer, able to move around freely but never paid any attention to.

Finally, I create a script. A brilliant one, like one of the first four games.

Then, it begins.

I invite R07 himself to my beautiful island. In the letter I will talk about Umineko from the real world's point of view (it's a story), but once he arrives (he'll be on his own boat), the seventeen of the cast and I will be standing to greet him, perfect recreations of his characters.

The characters introduce themselves one by one, and then start to head to the Mansion. They will never pay attention to him again.

I step forward, gesture towards the heart of the island.

"Welcome to Rokkenjima. Land of the Golden Witch"

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:34:54 2011 No.7008867 >>7008357 >>7008745 I wanna know too. This sounds interesting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:37:54 2011 No.7008888 >>7008851 And he'll say this is all shit made by a cloven hooved gaijin who didn't quite understand all his characters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:42:54 2011 No.7008915 >>7008851 Why couldn't you just buy out the rights to Umineshit?

Anonymous Thu Feb 24 20:42:54 2011 No.7008916

>>7008888
That's when I reveal that there actually are bombs under this island and everyone is going to die and then he is going to realize that "IT'S A CATBOX ANYTHING COULD HAVE HAPPENED" is not a satisfying ending, neither is believing that we were are ignorant of the bomb and then we died.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 25 03:19:54 2011 No.7010393 >>7008745 Another way to milk more cash out of the fanbase. Brilliant Ryu, really.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 25 04:28:54 2011 No.7010530 >>7008259 Poor guy, I totally believe him. Everybody knows there are no "recover lost passsword" options in any web service that requires a password, specially mails.

Anonymous Fri Feb 25 04:53:54 2011 No.7010574
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>>7008057

OP here, didn't think this thread would still be alive. But seeing this makes me very happy. I'm glad someone else was able to experience it as deeply as I did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 25 05:07:54 2011 No.7010600 >>7008259 More like his mailbox imploded under the sheer number of hate mails.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 25 05:15:54 2011 No.7010614 >>7010600 Yeah, that's what everyone knows that "lost password" means

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 25 05:16:54 2011 No.7010621 >>7008851 Why re-build what's already there? Both houses are real.

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