A Serious Discussion - Becoming The Little Girl

[Anonymous No.]

I have been hanging out on /jp/ for long enough to know that this is a fairly common theme. For me personally, I love cute/feminine/frilly things an awful lot, and find men generally repulsive. I am purely hetero and (immensely) attracted to females, but I want to be feminine myself as their femininity is not enough for me.

So basically, who here wants to remain a male but just be permitted to be and enjoy feminine things?

[Anonymous No.]

Get the fuck out, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

I like little blonde girls

[Anonymous No.]

I want to be a little girl, not a trap.

[Anonymous No.]

Now I feel the opposite, I'd rather amount to a manlier man.

I mean you can be the little girl and thats great for you but I'd much rather be the Bruce Willis.

[Anonymous No.]

For a longest time I wanted to be feminine(female, even), even going as far as considering hormone thereapy and other stuff. I have fairly lightly build, and kind of androgynous looks to begin with so I figured I was kinda good off.
Then one day after gathering the courage I decided to go on cam and try my luck. What followed was lots of messages from people wanting to suck my dick and getting me to fuck them in the ass, or asking me to be more slutty on cam and jerk it off or whatever. It was ENTIRELY unpleasant experience.


Fuck I think I'm going to puke. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994476
Pic to judge please

[Anonymous No.]

I'd like to be a girl but the idea of living without my penis makes me very sad.

Fortunately in the magic realm beyond the black curtain of death, futanari is possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994476
You're that guy from /tg/ aren't you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994476
Why wouldn't you want someone to suck your dick or let you fuck them?

[Anonymous No.]

ever read the manga Otomen? I think you'd like it.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't care what my sex or gender is, only that my body, stature, and face look, to my own subjective tastes, cute. I want to be cute, to wear cute clothes, to be treated, by those few who do deal with me, less by their conceptions of my gender as a man, and more by if they were dealing with a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>Fortunately in the magic realm beyond the black curtain of death, futanari is possible.

it's possible IRL too. lot's of transsexuals don't do the last op and just keep their dicks. no clue why, but if i was on their place i'd chicken out, imagine something goes wrong and you're left with neither penis nor a vagina. scary shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994508
Checking this out, thanks for the recommendation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994516
Newhalf=Futanari

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

>>6994515
That rings a bell, by positive reinforcement and other techniques Ive put one guy I know under the mindset that he is cute. Though he's been starting to crack lately and my efforts will not be in vain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994476
What did you think would happen, seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994489
No. Other than knowing that it's entirely idiotic to post my picture on /jp/, I have started reconsidering this whole thing. Maybe I don't want to be a girl at all.
>>6994497
I have never posted on /tg/
>>6994505
This might sound weird, but I'm not very sexual person. I mean, I would be fine with having sex or something, but then I'd imagine myself being more on the receiving end. And even then I'd only do it if my partner wanted it, I don't actually have the drive for it.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ - Trap Culture

I'm feeling with you, OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994530
Out of curiosity, why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.]

When you guys say "I want to be the little girl", do you just mean you want to be a woman and feel like spouting a meme? Or do you want to actually be a female child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994550
I actually want to be a female child.

Mind you, it'd be better if I had a female older sister who could afford me clothing and food, since the only job a female child can get is prostitution. Not to say that's bad, but it isn't my thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994554
You could do child "modeling" for money, it isn't prostitution or porn (mostly).

[Anonymous No.]

That pretty much describes me. I don't really want to be a little girl, I just like to exercise my right as a man to wear and do whatever I please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994558
It's still whoring myself out.

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

>>6994539
Because he wanted to be cute, simple as that.

[Anonymous No.]

Would any of you have any qualms toward sitting on my lap while I internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994563
I can't blame you for having principles, but I would do it. Maybe not as racy as most of them (the Russian ones) though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994575

depends on if you're nude

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994575
As a little girl? Yes, the internet would be boring, VNs and other games or anime would be fine though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994590
No, clothed.

>>6994593
I want you.

[Anonymous No.]

i'm kinda the opposite. i love looking cute and my frilly clothes, but i just wish i was born a boy and was crossdressing instead (i'm a girl).
i have no clue why, i love my frills and makeup, but i just feel like a trap and i don't like the fact that my body doesn't agree. i even like when people actually mistake me for a guy, but i also don't think i'm transsexual, i feel more like andorgynous or something. or i have no clue, i just know that when i'm a woman i constantly feel like my body is out of place.
if only i got rid of the boobs and period i think i'd be happy, more or less.

i hope anyone understands what i mean, this shit is fuckin weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994615
You have a fetish.

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

>>6994615
Why don't you do the same thing breast cancer patients do and cut the tumors out, figuratively speaking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994530
What other techniques?

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

>>6994623
Others were more experimenal, most were ineffective but the majority was mostly positive reinforcement. That, and a willing mind.
I think it did backfire in a way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994622
most doctors won't let do this unless you're diagnosed as transsexual. but i'm gonna try finding someone who will.

[Anonymous No.]

MARRY ME!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994615
You're a girl, it's only natural to be interested in dicks.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet /jp/ would make ugly kids.
Sage for off topic.
Reported for pedophilia.

[ニューゼロ !!TEBCvIGp/sA No.]

>>6994615
There are a lot of people who feel like that :/ You are not alone!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994639
Damn, i meant that for
>>6994615

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994640
That's true.

>>6994644
Please, no one fall for this troll.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

>>6994636

How tall are you and how much do you weigh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994615
I'm exactly in the same case as you. I guess /jp/ is a place where great minds meet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994656
She's just going to lie, why bother asking?

[Anonymous No.]

I seem to be the minority in /jp/. I don't actually want to be the little girl. I lust for anything feminine, including traps, but I don't wish to become one.

[Mr Krons !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

>>6994668
Same boat here, though I'm not that into traps.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what I want to be. I'd like to be either a cool, somewhat tough looking, but kind hearted protector type of guy or a cute girl. Obviously I'm neither. It's so polarizing though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994644
>pedophilia
where

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994683
I asked you not to do that.

[Anonymous No.]

What does /jp/ want to look like as a little girl?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994692
I want long blond hair.
Other than that, so long as I'm cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994692
A standard little girl (=not ugly), living a standard life in a standard family, with standard friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994668
Most people are like this, but for some reason I have the urge to mirror all my fetishes. If I'm getting turned on by a character wearing pantyhose, I feel the need to wear my own. If she's wearing a school swimsuit, my penis compels me to wear one, too. As far as I can tell, this is abnormal and most men don't think this way, but I just can't resist mimicking everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994692
If I could avoid aging, I want to look like Mara, if not, I don't. Because her mother\sister are ugly shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I got to say, I am very happy being a man. You can do whatever you want and look however you want and people tend to ignore you if they are not interested. It seems girls have more pressure to conform and are treated worse when they do not. I am certainly attracted to women (3D as well as 2D) but I don't really have any desire to have sex with them, and I certainly would never want to be one either.

But whatever makes you happy /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994713
>You can do whatever you want and look however you want and people tend to ignore you if they are not interested

It's funny because the fact that that isn't true is why many want to be the little girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994692
Black hair, brown eyes, regular size, around 7 years old, flat chest, no hips or other curves.

I would frolic in a yellow sundress all summer long with my friends who were equally as cute. Ah, what a life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994713
Do you live in an environment where girls tend to be rare?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994713
>You can do whatever you want and look however you want and people tend to ignore you if they are not interested.
But you have so much more pressure on you to succeed. If you are a woman all you have to do is lay on your back and let a man stick his cock into you. Men have to actually do shit if they want to survive.

No one looks down a woman for not working and living off someone else, only men seem bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994715

Why isn't it true for you? My main desires in life now is to chill out and read manga or cartoons/watch anime or something else on TV, eat, sleep and listen to music and I can do all those things when I don't have uni. Even though I don't drink, smoke or leave the house very often my friends at uni have never pressured me into going anywhere with them. Also I look quite ugly but no one has really said anything about it, but maybe it's because I look quite menacing at times as well (I have been told).

If anything, if I was the little girl I would be unlikely to enjoying doing nothing the way I do now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994415
>>6994415

Well OP,

I can't say I understand where you are coming from, but I can say how you can enjoy what you like without being gay: Find a girl that will do those things.

Seriously. Just find a girl that enjoys cute frilly things, and silly hats, and victorian outfits or whatever you are into, and have her wear those. You can enjoy them by looking at her, and sexing her, preferably while she is still wearing whatever your fetish of the week happens to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994725
No, but I will admit I don't speak to women; I don't see any point in doing so. Maybe my perception of them is skewed because of this.

>>6994728
Everyone has pressure to succed, you just have to deal with it. People would look down on you if you are a woman who has gotten everything in life just through sex, you may think no one cares but people don't respect you at all. It doesn't sound particularly satisfying either to be honest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994729
Go wear a dress.
Or any feminine attire.
Even wearing a kilt will get people to call you a faggot.
Even shaving your legs will get people to think you're gay, even if you have a "Oh, I swim/bike" excuse.

Also, though it may differ in different areas, I've had my father say outright that he wouldn't mind that I'm a NEET leeching off of the family and staying cooped up in my room day after day if I were a girl. But since I'm male, I need to go work.
>Girls get shit, guys have to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994729
You seem to be forgetting the very subject of this thread. A crossdressing man is treated as lower than the lowest criminal, while for women there is no such thing as crossdressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994729
You are exactly the kind of guy I am right now. But not because it's what I was looking for ; it's because I know that I won't be a little girl in this life, so I wait for my death while I'm taking it easy at life.

Sometimes, I'm even afraid that I will forget about my desire to be a little girl with time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994550
I don't want to actually be a female child, but I would like to be a girl with certain childlike aesthetic features (i.e. flat chest). I would not want to actually be a ten year old and be treated like one.

[Shameimaru Aya is my girlfriend !3y3mjHUKjI No.]

>>6994748

Don't mind me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu17HNXfsTM

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994739

That's a shame to hear. I guess I am lucky I am content with what I have. I suppose I am also lucky that what I want is considered "normal" or "boring" by society's standards so there isn't any problem with me doing what I like. Also your dad sounds like a tard, neither me or my sister have ever had any preferential treatment because of gender. Both us are expected to work and get decent jobs or both of us will no longer be welcome in the house anymore (in retrospect this sounds harsher than your dad a little, but at least it's fair).

I still don't fully understand why you'd want to be the little girl (maybe unrealistic expectations from VNs or something) but like I said before, whatever makes you happy.

[Anonymous No.]

I would much rather have the little girl than be the little girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994713
>You can do whatever you want and look however you want
try wearing a dress in public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994758
That's the problem. You say men can do anything they want, but it's no different than Ford saying you can have a Ford motor in your favorite color, so long as it's black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994757

>Shania Twain

Fuck you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994750

Well it's sort of similar in my situation, except instead of never getting to be the little girl I figure that I am not going to be very happy in the future, and I will certainly end up alone so I may as well take it easy right now than try and do what everyone else is doing. I wouldn't really want to be anyone else though, I have accepted the future with such certainty that I actively dismiss any other potential paths for my life to take. So may people have mentioned that with minimal effort I would have lost my virginty a long time ago but since that wasn't what I anticipated, I never worked towards that goal. It's defeatist, but it feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994786
>people have mentioned that with minimal effort I would have lost my virginty a long time ago

Not really related, but WHY ARE SO MANY VIRGINS OBSESSED WITH LOSING THEIR VIRGINITY. YOU DIRTY SLUTS.
Back when I was a productive member of society instead of the NEET I am now, cougar women used to hit on me (I have no fucking clue why). Once I was really close to having sex with one, in a she-almost-raped-me way, but I managed to talk my way out of it. Not because "3DPD" or "slut" or "old hag" but because I value my virginity and love mai waifu above everything. Thank you for reading this post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994766
This. If you create a little girl yourself you can dress them up in anything you want /jp/. You just need to get out there and find a suitable mate to create a little girl with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994757
I love this song!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994874
Yeah, but that sounds a little too difficult. We probably have a better shot at alchemy.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone else find it hard to not only define their own gender, but also the gender of others? By this I mean, you can see someone is physically male or female, but you have little response at all to the difference in gender and treat everyone the same?

Even though I am male and have a big bushy beard, inside I feel pretty much androgynous. Or maybe it makes more sense to say that I haven't defined my self as male or female so end up straying into both, in an internal way. But it's hard to know what "manly" or "feminine" is, just different things I enjoy.

Sorry if this doesn't make sense. It is probably a mixture of bisexuality and the psychological effects of 8 years of social withdrawal.

[Anonymous No.]

You just need to remember why you chose to be a man in the first place OP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994918
>Does anyone else find it hard to not only define their own gender, but also the gender of others? By this I mean, you can see someone is physically male or female, but you have little response at all to the difference in gender and treat everyone the same?

I do if you mean what I think you mean. I've become indifferent as to if people are male or female, probably as a result of losing interest in 3d.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't say any of this applies to me, but I do wish girls would wear more ties in real life. Also, skirts.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe Gensokyo is the Platonic realm of universals and we are all just trying to get home.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994945
If I had a cafe which functioned as a bar at night, I can assure you that the young, female staff would be issued a Versace uniform.
Jacket, tie, trousers in winter, skirts in summer.

Everything would be in black and white. Except for the menu, I guess.
But I can assure you there'd be a black and white special menu of some sort. White chocolate cake w/ black coffee, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994966
Not normal chocolate cake with milk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994975
That could be one of the specials, I guess.

Geez, I only came up with it just now.
If I ever get money to throw around, I guess that'd be the kind of business I'd start.
How hard can it be, really? Sure the competition would be hard, and I'd probably lose money on it unless I could make it into a really trendy place.

Thinking about it, it doesn't really seem like a bad business idea.

The bartender(s) would need to have a way with their White Russians and Black Russians, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994966
I would frequent such a fine establishment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995009
Can I live in your cafe anon, I'll wear a maid outfit if you want?

[Anonymous No.]

if i had a chance to become the little girl in the exact sense i want to, it would already mean reality's not as solid as you'd think.

the next step would be to become an immortal vampire or a god and enjoy my thelittlegirl-ness forever while stepping on puny mortals who would dare to challenge me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995031
I don't see any problems with that, really.
But I'd prefer it if you wore a suit as well.

Or maybe not, seeing as you'd probably be the one doing the cleaning during the late hours of our business.
It'd probably be open until 2:30 or so on Th-Sa, and have the kitchen close at 20 on Mo-We, 18 on Th-Sa.
Everything would shut down at 22 on Mo-We.

Plates and glass from the day would be cleaned in the late hours, since I imagine you'd be sleeping until noon.

Dunno about opening hours of the café.
When do people start going there? Breakfast service could be an option, I guess, so that'd make for opening the front of the shop and have the kitchen running in low gears at 7 or so.

Hell, there's a lot of planning with this shit.

If I could get some reliable people for the key positions, I think it'd be pretty sweet.
Especially with a location close to a busy station near the main shopping street.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995070
A suit is fine too.

Hurray for the /jp/ café!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995098
Neat.
Then you'd have to be issued a suit as well.

You'd probably be issued some minor tasks like taking the waitresses' uniforms to the dry-cleaner's and such.

On days when you aren't too busy taking it easy in the back office where you'd probably be housed somehow, I think you'd be sent to the gym. Wouldn't want you growing out of the suit, so no getting fat, and no getting too beefed up.
Lots of cardio for you, my live-in friend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995115
But-but I'm already badly underweight, I don't think I could get fat if I tried!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995115
>sending a /jp/edo to the gym for cardio

Just buy a treadmill and a jumprope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995118
You'd need to be fit, at least.
Healthy food and exercise would be good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994897
>We probably have a better shot at alchemy.
Go ahead then, here are your choices.
1. Impregnate a witch with the semen of a hanged man, the offspring will grow into a sadistic, slutty, perverted loli with no concept of love.
2. Store your semen inside an egg laid by a black hen during the first day of the March lunar cycle (4 March for this year), seal it with virgin parchment and wait for a month. This will result in a homunculus.
3. Summon Barbas (ability to transform men into shapes) Gaap (ability to teleport the conjurer and whomever he desires) and Beleth (ability to make people fall in love) and turn everyone on /jp/ into cute girls madly in love with you (or each other, if you desire monogamous pure yuri relationships). Use their infernal armies (Gaap controls 66 legions, Beleth 85, Barbas 36) to build a grand mansion big enough to fit all of you and live with your lesbian harem forever.

Go with 3, for /jp/'s sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995162
>1. Impregnate a witch with the semen of a hanged man, the offspring will grow into a sadistic, slutty, perverted loli with no concept of love.

Sounds perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah yes I'd prefer to be a loli myself but only for aesthetic reasons really, I don't think I'd care for the life of a little girl.

Girls are lucky with all the clothing and accessories they get to wear, if I could pull off being a trap I most certainty would, unfortunately my face is far too masculine.

I like girls a little too much I suppose, I can't even fap to het porn because seeing women get man handled disgusts me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995188
Not 3?
Well fuck you too, ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995162
I've been wanting to try 2 since this first surfaced on /jp/ a year or 2, but getting an egg laid by a black hen has always been my bottleneck.
All the people I know that have chickens don't have any black hens, and using a carton of store bought eggs doesn't give me any guarantees.

[Anonymous No.]

I actually don't like appearing to be from either side of the gender spectrum. I much prefer being indistinguishable, as far as physical appearance goes.

>>6995162
Go with 3.

Find an actual mage's sanctum and have them do it. Too bad the only ones I know of are in the EU or I'd go to them myself. fucking closed-mindedness here in america ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995247
anon, there's someone who keeps chickens near the railway platform I sometimes have to use, one of the hens is black. You can do it anon!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995162
>1. Impregnate a witch with the semen of a hanged man, the offspring will grow into a sadistic, slutty, perverted loli with no concept of love.
Capital punishment has been long abolished in my country; are there any mail export services for hanged man semen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995278
I'm sure you can find someone suicidal.

[Anonymous No.]

Being the little girl would be nice I'm sure, But I'd much rather just have one love me/be close to me. It's probably because I've never looked feminine in the slightest, and though I'm skinny, the only feasible option for me is to be the ultra-masculine protective type. being in the Marines kind of narrows that option down a bit anyway

So if any of you figure out how to be the little girl, and need a somewhat masculine type around just because, call me. please ; ;

>>6994855
not all virgins are obsessed with losing their virginity, but the problem is if I/we somehow met a girl we actually love, being a virgin will scare her away. I suppose we can always lie but I imagine it will show. The obsession with losing ones virginity is more like an obsession for normalcy. Luckily I no longer desire to lose it, and haven't for some time. Now my problem is coming up with excuses as to why I never have a girlfriend/reasons to turn down people.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ is full of useless male betas, shunned and oppressed by society. It is unsurprising that they would 'want to be the little girl'. To justify their helplessness, to be wanted by another who would be attracted to their weakness and lack of experience

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995359
You can still be the little girl on the inside anon! Though sacrificing yourself to protect the other little girls is a noble pursuit in itself.

[Anonymous No.]

As much as I would enjoy being a feminine, bishonen type, my german blood does not allow it. Unless I develop muscle and a beard I'm not good looking.

However, if I do, I look like the handsomest manliest motherfucker to ever chop down a tree instead of a lanky fag with a square jaw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995390
Stop being so horrible. /jp/ is full of beautiful little girls, shunned and oppressed by society because reality is cruel and didn't give them the bodies they deserve. /jp/ just wants to be what they know they are at heart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995400
what better way to earn the little girls trust, and receive
gratuitous amounts of hugs from. When /jp/ figures out how to be the little girl, I will reap the benefits!

>>6995390
professor obvious, PHD in psychology

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995409
Take me now, anon! Cum inside my ass pussy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995409
I'm in the same boat. Strong Spanish background so I have a hairy chest and handsome chiseled face. If I cant be a little girl, my best second option would be to hold one I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995464
>>6995409
being the little girl is overrated, true joy is being loved by one.

[Anonymous No.]

Yes ... and no.

I don't actually want to be a little girl, or a woman, in reality. I've seriously considered gender reassignment surgery, but come to the conclusion that it's just not for me. Neither are things like crossdressing, though pretending to be a girl online can be very rewarding.

I don't actually want to be a woman, because I'm just turned on by it, I don't feel like I'm in the wrong body or believe that I would be treated better or anything. It's just really fucking arousing. For the past few years the only thing I have I have gotten off to has been thoughts of myself as a woman, being fucked by other girls, with or without dicks. I have written about it, dreamed about it, thought about it all the damn time. I probably have full-blown autogynephilia, but I'm entirely comfortable with it.

Also no genderswap surgery is going to make me into a big bouncy girl, that's just not possible. So, no, I'm happy just doing it in my head. Wish I could get lucid dreaming to work though, that would be fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994966
Sir, I would be honoured to spend outrageous sums of money for food of unimpressive quality at your cafe.

Please hire only attractive people.

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to be a girl with a penis trapped in perhaps her upper teenage years forever because I would get the best of both worlds and I am a male but express a lot more female traits than male traits mentally but physically I hate the way I look. Doesn't suit me at all. I'm a full blooded Italian so I'm just naturally manly like that, works for most people but not for someone who is a girl trapped in a male body. I was always like this and always questioned my gender. When I was little I would always go into a store looking at the female section only to be turned to the boring guys section at whatever clothes store I was in. When in a perfume/cologne shop I would always want to wear the perfume because it smelled so better than most nasty mens scents. I always loved cute things and would always have to buy the nearest adorable plush toy I saw in the toy store, masculine action figures and toy cars were always the last things I would want to look at. The way acted and always have has been more on the feminine side. My only really masucline traits I would say I have are that I do have a very violent, aggressive, strong, and confident side to me that comes out randomly when you do something really pushes my buttons and sometimes it gets me in trouble but who knows maybe I have some mental disorder because that has been getting worse over the years. So that's really it. I never thought of having a gender change though because as a girl now I would look even more ugly, I'll be stuck like this forever. Though maybe if I do it right I can cross dress pretty well.

[Anonymous No.]

Being a woman would suck, I have never once considered a sex change or hormones. If I can't be a little girl, then I won't settle for the next best thing.

[Anonymous No.]

there sure are a lot of words itt

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995478
This.

I'd rather have a daughter.

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to become the little girl, instead of just some faggot who wears a dress and acts like a total fag, then you should help bring about the technological singularity.

http://opencog.org/

If you don't have any skills, then get some. Wasting your life pursuing anything else is pointless in the face of the prospects of a singularity.

[Anonymous No.]

Nah, I like feminine things because I am biologically forced to want to fuck them, with every fiber of my being. I don't really mind. I would never want to be a girl though. Why? Imagine being older than 30 and female. Appeal is completely gone.

[Anonymous No.]

I've always wanted to be genderless really. I suppose if I were I might lean a little either way depending on my mood. Not frills to the max or anything, but I wouldn't mind being able to get away with wearing a skirt when I felt like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995586
Hence little.

The people who really yearn to be the little girl probably won't live 30 years as is.

Normal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995580
What if the singularity as you imagine it isn't possible. What if there are hard limits on what sort of computational capability one can attain with given materials and energy, just as there are hard limits of the velocities of objects? What if the complexity of the devices needed to make your AGI smarter exceed even the cognitive capabilities of your AGI? There are so many things you just don't know that could completely stop any sort of technological singularity cold. Maybe you can make something smart, really smart by human standards, but even that really smart thing can't make itself a god. Perhaps that AGI might devise incredible works, but it wouldn't eliminate scarcity or want entirely (since our wants would scale up as possibilities do). There would still be things only attainable by a few and not the many, perhaps drastic body modification would be one of them.

Also, what if you make an AGI and it isn't friendly? How would you even know if it wasn't, assuming it was so much smarter than you that tricking you would be trivial?

[Anonymous No.]

I just wished for a capable surgeon that asked no questions if a patient told him that he wants to get castrated.

Then I would get into a slight hormone treatment to get feminine skin but no chest. Guess I would pull of really well.
Still, I don't think I would have the courage to go meet lesbian flatchested girls and I would tell every man that tried to talk to me to get the fuck off.

So basically it would be useful for wearing pretty dresses when I'm bored, which is not that bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995501
>Please hire only attractive people.
Of, fucking, course.
I won't be hiring ugly skanks in from the street and put Versaces on them.
Getting pretty university students to work shouldn't be that hard if I just advertise the right places.

>unimpressive quality
Hey, now. I'd most likely show up a couple of times every week to make sure the quality is top notch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995622
In regards to your first statement, I know that feel anon.
Fucking gatekeeper garbage.

[Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU No.]

>attracted to females
>(immensely)

Umm, 2D or 3D, sir?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995623
To be honest, I don't really care for brand-name quality. As long as there is a uniform, that's good enough for me.

I'd even be okay with those crossover ties you find on girls' school uniforms/military dress uniforms.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995580
You know, when computers first were invented, people dreamed of artificial intelligences, and many predicted that we would have them long before now.

The fact is, we don't even know, exactly, how our own intelligence and experiences arise from their component parts. How, then, should we expect to be able to not only build an intelligence, but build one that is superior to ourselves?

How long do you think it will be before we understand intelligence well enough to say exactly why certain interconnected activities of neurons give rise to our minds. That is, before we could, in principle at least, design a neural network on paper that, if it existed, would think and feel and act just like we do.

Now understand that being able to do that is just the MOST VERY BASIC PREREQUISITE to building an AGI capable of bringing about the singularity.

The singularity, if it is possible at all, is centuries away. Sorry, but that's just being realistic. Humans have always prided their current time as being special, and overestimated its technological rate of advancement (simply because it is always faster relative to the past...).

But by all means continue to build your word networks and search trawlers thinking you'll wake up tomorrow and they'll have become god.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995641
Well, whatever the brand, it sort of has to be a brand if it's going to get any people to speak of the place.

A: "Hear about that new place by that square?"
B: "Yeah, that place with waitresses in [brand] suits, right?"

Or when one of the employees talk to her friends:
A: "I got a job at this really nice café, and I'm wearing an awesome [brand] uniform at work, so come by and check me out, ok?"
B, C, and D: "lolk"

Best thing about that second one is that attractive people for the most part have at least reasonably attractive friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995658
Complicated things don't get built by understanding every single aspect of it at first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995675
This is true. The ancients build pyramids and aquaducts thinking that pi was 3.16 and without calculus. You don't need to understand something to use it.

Also, haters gonna hate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995614
We know it's possible to create an AGI smarter than a human, because when you look at a group of humans as whole, they're able to reason about and accomplish much more than a single human, even though they're using a slow form of communication with a lot of latency (speech and the written word). Corporations and civilization itself are forms of super-intelligence.

Computing doesn't need to be sequential, in fact, it's much better if it's parallel with many concurrent processes, much like ourselves.

We can already make machines do specialized things much better than humans or groups of humans.

I don't think your limit exists.

[Anonymous No.]

How the hell did this turn into a discussion about artificial intelligence? Though I do feel for computers. They'll never be the little girl either.

[Anonymous No.]

Centuries away? We don't know how it works? I think you're naive in thinking that our understanding of human cognition hasn't progressed at all within the last little while. In fact, in the last two years alone, more papers on neuroscience were published than in the preceding 20 years. Our understanding is accelerating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995695
Your very bones forbid you from being a little girl.

So obviously you should get rid of them if you want to be a little girl.
What better way to lose the need of your bone structure if you can transplant your brain into a little robot girl body, or upload your mind data into a computer?

From those implicit thoughts spurned "Oh, these are singularity topics!", which brought forth arguments about whether technological singularity is a few decades away or a few millenniums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995695
Because with advanced self-improving artificial intelligence, we can build machines that are smart enough to develop advanced forms of nanotechnology capable of transforming you into an actual little girl, on the molecular level. You'll also get to be a little girl for as long as you want, with an indefinite lifespan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995695

We can make you a little girl android body.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't worry guys, I'm going to school for biomedical engineering. I'll have use beautiful loli bodies soon! You can count on Anon.

Is it sad\pathetic\wrong that I really am studying that to make my dreams of being a little girl possible?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995723
Not at all, really.

[Anonymous No.]

Android bodies?

What's happened /jp/, don't you believe in magic anymore?

GET OUT OF HERE BATTLER!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995723

Not at all. I'm majoring in cognitive computer science for the very reason to provide the brain for the loli body you are gonna make.

We can do it /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994415
>and find men generally repulsive. I am purely hetero and (immensely) attracted to females

Stop being like that. Why don't you people understand that males are better lovers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995723
No anon, you're a hero. Don't give up on your dreams. You're doing what the normals can't, reaching for something they've given up on long ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995740
If Yukari ever comes in a giving mood, I'm more than willing to accept her using her powers to change my body, but it's like waiting for your true love to find you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995747
>>6995741
Thank you for your support /jp/. Whenever I feel the urge to give up and become a NEET hikki, I will remember our dreams and press forward in my pursuit of lolidom!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995771
>lolidom
Ah, someone should post some. This thread is lacking in pictures anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995774
That isn't what I meant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995688
No shit, but you don't build pyramids without at least understanding how to cut stone. We don't even know how intelligence can arise from its constituent parts event theoretically.

>>6995705
Way to privilege our current time and overestimate its importance, just as humans have always done. When the genetic code was cracked, people dreamed up all sorts of crazy shit we could. But the fact was, compared to what we needed to learn to do that shit, cracking the genetic code was child's play. Similarly, although our genetic knowledge is growing exponentially, a lot of it has just shown how little we know. We've learned so much neuroscience, and the most important thing we've learned is that we still don't know shit. Not that we won't know how things work eventually, but it will take longer than you naively anticipate.

Remember always that the parabola ALWAYS looks the same no matter how much you zoom in or out. The growth rate is increasing, but the RATE of rate of growth is constant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995716
Oh fucking nanites give me a break. Nanites are to today's sci fi what radiation was to yesterday's. All your shit about nanites doing anything and everything is just as bullshit as radiation making things giant and super smart as opposed to just giving them cancer.

Nanites won't break the laws of thermodynamics. If you want a carbon bond made, the energy has to come from somewhere. If you want to make order out of disorder, you have to pay the cost. You think nanites will be able to perform nuclear reactions?! Think about how hard that is, now imagine having to do it when the energy scales available to you are on the order of thermal fluctuations.

You want to know what nanites will look like? Picture a perfect, artificially designed bacteria. It can maintain its internal environment, synthesize complex molecules from basic components, react to a vast array of situations. Yet, at the same time, it NEEDS food. It only performs well in certain environments. Its reactions are limited to what are programmed in its DNA.

What you have to understand is that nanotechnology isn't magic. Self-replicating nanotech and designed life face equivalent challenges and have equivalent possibilities.

Again, not to say that nanotech won't come about and be awesome, but it won't be fucking magic.

You want loli bodies? Here's your best bet. Figure out how to regrow nerve connections, then just transplant your brain into a clone body (designed to accept it). Alternatively, build an in vivo microelectrode array capable of single axon detection and activation. Then you can just put a remote control where the brain would be in a cloned body, and have it send/receive signals from your actual brain in a vat somewhere.

Both of these things are FUCKING HARD and yet they are so fucking trivial it's laughable compared to building even the simplest of AGI.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995783
That's probably not what he meant.
You don't need to use the same way of cutting stone to fulfill the purpose.

[undine !C/kl8M82oE No.]

>>6994615
probably brain damage from reading too much BL doujins

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995802
Of course it's not magic. But there already exists molecular machinery for transforming peoples bodies while they grow, and there certainly exists machinery for breaking and forming hydro-carbon chains. It's all within the existing human cells. If it didn't exist, we wouldn't be alive having this conversation.

There's no reason why we can't improve on our existing molecular machinery.

[Anonymous No.]

>What you have to understand is that nanotechnology isn't magic.

If only science fiction authors understood that.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't worry Anon.
Just keep on pursuing your dreams of a loli body. I will do it, too.

We just need to work hard in our respective fields. Always keep in mind that it's only a matter of time and effort, for our succes has already been guaranteed.

We shall bring forth the miracle that is loli within our generation and defy those pitiful souls who believed it would take centuries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995783
>Remember always that the parabola ALWAYS looks the same no matter how much you zoom in or out. The growth rate is increasing, but the RATE of rate of growth is constant.
Why do you think that it is a parabola? Don't assume that, given that technology grows on itself, it is more likely to be e^x, like compound interest.

[Anonymous No.]

>make serious reply to you want to be the little girl thread
>suddenly, science debate

Dammit, /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995741
>>6995723
Are any other anons fighting the good fight?

[Anonymous No.]

You people have issues, its pretty sad actually

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995960

Get out of /jp/. No, shut up, don't reply, just get out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995960
>I'm new
Okay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995723
GIRLS! GRLS!

I would like to propose a progect.
Now I know most of you are NEETs, so you have lots of time on your hands. Why dont we put it to good use? Start going to community college, we could use online recourses to teach ourselves if we dont have money.
Those of us not acidemicly inclined could start making and saving money for /jp/ manor.
There are quite a few posters on /jp/, if we worked together with the help of /sci/ we could prefect both mind upoading and robotic loli bodys. After thts done, we need only to build a manor for us. We could be happy forever, in the bodys we where meant to be in, livingthe life we where meant to live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995965
Please don't fall for such obvious trolls. It is not proper behavior for a young lady.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995968
>>6995965
And two already took the obvious bait. What a bunch of aspies seriously *giggles*

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995974
/sci/ wouldn't understand. How is /g/ doing with the normals? Last I checked, they seemed to like lolies, think would they help us?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995945
Alas, games programming course, though lately I've been tempted to drop out as my attendance is suffering from the days I just can't handle going outside. Not the best fight, but more escapism routes are never bad.

>>6995960
'sup Normal, how are you coping yourself? You can't be having such a great time in life either if insulting people on an anonymous message board is what you're spending your time on. How does it feel knowing there are sad people with issues in this thread doing more productive work than you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995974
Fuck, this is too fucking sad to read. I mean it guys

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995991
>How is /g/ doing with the normals?
Horribly. We couldn't even have a lolibot thread the other day because normalfags kept moralfagging. Their main argument was "fucking robots won't be enough, you will go rape a real child too", I shit you not.

I remember a time when all our best posters were sexual deviants, but we are getting overrun by newfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995991
LOL /sci/ WOULD NEVER UNDERSTAND JUST HOW SPECIAL WE ARE, THOSE BORING NORMALS

how cute

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996013
Ah, that's a damn shame.
Well, keep fighting the good fight, is all I can really say, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996013
>our best posters were sexual deviants

Lol u guise r so edgy and cool xd teach me to be like you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996013

fun fact: it's one guy he does it on /e/ too a troll

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995974
Okay, I like this plan. It's not as if I was going to do anything brilliant with a degree in math anyway, and I've been thinking of changing my major so something more practical. I'll take AI research.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996027
>/g/ - Guro
It was better back then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995723
>Is it sad\pathetic\wrong that I really am studying that to make my dreams of being a little girl possible?
No.
It's incredibly awesome. A far, far better reason for choosing a field of study than most people have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996005
You dont really think living an normal life is that amazing, do you?
That is truly sad.

>>6996013
Thats horrid, prehaps we could somehow convinse them to help us however.

>>6996017
Please dont flame, hes just trying to help.
The reason I said /sci/ is because we would be working to a common goal, they also have an amazing selection of learning recourses, I say we use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995847
Ex-fucking-actly. Nanites will use enzymes. But enzymes only increase the RATE of a reaction, not its final equilibrium state. If you want to push something uphill, you'll need to couple it with an energetically favorable reaction. Nanites won't be able to create gasoline from dirt, because that violates the laws of thermodynamics, and would be magic. And nanites aren't magic.

[None !!n8+uuMZcXAE No.]

>Images: 18 Posts: 175
Shame on you /jp/, this is a new level of pathetic. I realize that many of you leaned to pedophilia out of desperation, but wanting to actually be a kid? That's terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996043

Major in what intrests you, Id hate to see you sacrifice something you love and it takes all kinds of skills to build the future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995945
I'm actually looking into non-technological (in other words, metaphysics etc.) methods. Things like world/reality substitution and mental travel to another "world" - the latter being similar to dreaming and the former being actually fully moving into a different reality (creating a new body to inhabit in the process). Like playing a game or falling into it.

If I succeed with this, /jp/ can come too.

[Anonymous No.]

>You dont really think living an normal life is that amazing, do you?

What the hell is a 'normal' life to you clowns anyway, not being obssesed with raping little children or something like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>I realize that many of you leaned to pedophilia out of desperation, but wanting to actually be a kid? That's terrible.

desperation? Loli is just one of my many fetishes...

It is unsurprising that they would 'want to be the little girl'. To justify their helplessness, to be wanted by another who would be attracted to their weakness and lack of experience... also because many channers fantasize about sucking a dick due to their fetishization in porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996098
I choose math because I had no idea what to do, I had to put something on the admissions sheet, and it would be relevant to most of the things that I might become interested in later, not because I love it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996075
>Nanites won't be able to create gasoline from dirt

Actually they can, you just need to find a source of energy to power them, photosynthesis or other existing chemical metabolic processes are fine.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=biofuel-from-bacteria

How do you get the sugar? You grow sugar cane from the dirt, water, and atmosphere. Plant cells are molecular machines themselves.

We won't ever see general purpose "nanites", and I now realize this is probably what you were getting at. Instead, we'll see vast assortment of heterogeneous molecular machines that can be composed together to form working systems.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>6996080

You must be new here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996109
That's how I did as well.
An now I'm on 5th year of university, studing boring shit I don't like...

[Anonymous No.]

So I was there looking at the boards to see wich were the top 5 worst boards on 4chan. I think I just found number 1

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996080
>Shame on you /jp/, this is a new level of pathetic. I realize that many of you leaned to pedophilia out of desperation, but wanting to actually be a kid? That's terrible.
Firstly, what's with this "haha you can't get a real woman so you turn to pedophilia out of desperation" attitude? I don't think that's how it works. Sure, children may be easier to get on your side, but what about the consequences? And everyone watching you like a hawk? That aside, wanting to be a little girl is better than wanting to have sex with one. You're not hurting anyone if you just become one yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996128
Yeah, we get it, we are all sick pedophiles and you hate us. We understood you the first time, no need to samefag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996139
>You're not hurting anyone if you just become one yourself.
haha, I bet Buffalo Bill said the same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995390
>>6996108
>It is unsurprising that they would 'want to be the little girl'. To justify their helplessness, to be wanted by another who would be attracted to their weakness

[Anonymous No.]

Report that clown for trolling.

[Anonymous No.]

if we get the means to become lolis, i shall make the /jp/ manor, even if i have to do it alone

[undine !C/kl8M82oE No.]

>>6995974
its useless
you need certain base talents to do advanced stuff like that
and you cannot learn talent (least of all at college)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996213
>You cant learn talents.
Yes you can, most people arent born knowing how to play the piano afterall.

>>6996203
You are a amazing person, and I am proud just to talk to you. Although Im sure there will be enough helpers, your dedication is inspiring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996203
Oh anon, I promise I'll do everything in my power make the /jp/ manor if we don't get loli bodies. A sanctuary for little girls that reality has shunned and given male bodies.

It's my sole motivation for not dropping out of education, if I get a well paid enough job. Just maybe, I can save you anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996273
and where would this wonderful building be located?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996300
In glorious Britain, homeland of tea parties and elegant ladies. Also rain.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996273
Sorry, not gonna happen champ ;)

[Anonymous No.]

that maid cafe thing was the only worthwhile idea in this dumb thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996321
>;)

It's okay, you weren't invited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996314
why not such a place as the empty japanese countryside? or, America? we need an empty countyside, we don't want the 'normals' to come wandering near.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996330
lol he gets mad at smilies, what an aspie :3

[Anonymous No.]

I want to be the little girl so people hug me. I don't want to hug people. I want to be hugged. I want someone to hug me and make me feel safe. To hold me in their arms paternally and never let go. My body aches to be hugged. But here I am, I will never enjoy life.

[Anonymous No.]

Is 'normal' supposed to be an insult around here? How lame can you guys be! *giggles*

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996348
You must've had a sad childhood :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995162
Bitch I am on this

[undine !C/kl8M82oE No.]

>>6996256
one can work hard but pigs can never truly learn to fly without wings

[Anonymous No.]

man, whenever I'm on /jp/ I feel like I've entered another planet or some shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996348
I absolutely agree with this. I just want to be able to show affection to people. I don't even really care about myself, I just want to make people happy and feel loved for being who they are. I'm not really interested in sex, just hugging, holding hands etc.

Part of the reason I am a recluse is because when other people are upset I feel so sick, anxious and sad I can barely take it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996343
It's okay /b/, I'm not mad - I just didn't invite you to the little girl house. I'm sorry if you're upset over it but you're really not elegant enough for it.
(￣▽￣)ノ＿彡☆バンバン！!

>>6996335
Maybe anon, I don't know. I'm sure there are isolated places here too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996401
lol she called you guys pigs :o

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996363
My father was always at work so I only had my mother who was a really weak person, my dad was abusive too, he never hugged me, he just hit me... and doted on my sisters.. so I always felt I should have been a girl.. and always just wanted to be hugged, not hug my mother like I usually ended up doing..

[Anonymous No.]

I WANT THE WORLD TO BE FULL OF RAINBOWS AND LITTLE PONIES TOO

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996420
yeah, but, if we had it in japan, it wouldn't be as hard to get put manga/anime, would it? less bullshit imports and the like.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we being raided?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996425
T_T *hugs anon and gives him a cookie*
^^

[Anonymous No.]

>>6995745
>generalization about entire gender
>provide no evidence
1/10
You almost had me there.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

This is everything wrong with /jp/ summed up in a single thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996446
No, just some faggot samefag trolling in a few threads on the first page. It's nice to be reminded that there are people even lower than you every now and again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996454
Glad you could come along and complete it. We've been waiting so long Ren.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6994705

Who?

Is she that girl I've seen a picture of holding a stack of books?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996456
>Implying its physically possible to be lower than /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996419
Yeah.. Well, I get solace by pretending to be a girl on Omegle, it's practically my online life now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996483
I'm afraid I rank trying to (and not doing a particularly good job ) troll /jp/s limited user base as being worse than sitting around on /jp/ talking about what I enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

Say goodnight to the troll~

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996484
Hey I do that too, my male harem is 20 members strong!

[undine !C/kl8M82oE No.]

>>6996425
that probably made you feel unwanted and unloved :x

it is/was somewhat similar for me
now i feel nothing simply hugging someone i like
but if someone i like actually wants to hug me too then doing the same thing suddenly becomes very pleasant
more pleasant than anything else

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996535
At least you HAVE people like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996535
Hmm, you're lucky. I eventually realised I was in love with my best friend (lets call him friend A). All I want is to be loved back by him. In normal school we were a trio, and two of the trio went to another university, while I took a year of being a NEET. The other friend (we'll call him friend B) met this ridiculously wealthy girl took her under her wing and started feminizing him, that's her fetish or something. She buys him everything he wants. Now he's also in love with friend A (he knows this and feels uncomfortable, he's straight, or bisexual at the least leaning towards females), and with this girl making him up and turning him into a girl, it's only a matter of time.
I wish I was making this up. She literally is turning him into a trap, I've seen him, he's passable, and cute.

[undine !C/kl8M82oE No.]

>>6996550
i wish i had but i only experienced this once and it was already years ago
i haven't seen anyone since then

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996583
Are you sure it's a sexual love? I have a platonic kind of love for who is essentially, the only friend I've had for the past 9 years or so, I'd probably have ported to gensokyo by now if it wasn't for him, but I can't say I'd want to have sex with him unless I was a little girl, then I certainly would .

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996589
I'm pretty sure it's platonic love, I really wish society wasn't the way it is just so we could hug and not feel weird. I had a sexual dream about him once but it felt awkward in the dream. Regardless, the real thing that pisses me off is that friend B is living my fantasy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996589
Oh yeah, and I totally feel the same way. I want to be a girl and have sex with him, but not as a guy. The thing is, maybe that's because it IS romantic love, but taking his straightness into consideration, you want to please him. My feelings on the matter are complicated. They stayed the night at my house over christmas and spooned all night on one of the beds I laid out of them ('ironically'). I lay there suppressing tears that I wanted to be a part of that. It's kind of like those trap mangas where you just know who's the seme and uke, and the characters know it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996591
Console yourself in the way I do then. You really think any relationship they could have will last? It will fall apart and you'll be the one left, dissatisfied with the mediocrity of the relationship, but relatively safe from it falling apart.

[Anonymous No.]

>mfw this thread not only is still alive and turned into AGI discussion at some point

back to AGI topic, you talk about androids and shit, but isn't it easier to just put a brain into an artificial body? i mean, we're probably gonna master everything else before we develop a good brain substitute, so it's a natural solution.

[Anonymous No.]

sure, as soon as you make a suitable robot, i'll be the first to donate my brain. it would be very hard to hook the brain into the robot though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996623
Brain implants are pretty hard to do, and unless you cut off the entire head your going to end up without anything even close to a spinal cord.
Brain uploading on the other hand, doesn't involve surgery [by my understanding, its hooking your brain into an artifical brain, your brain will start to use th artifical brain and its own, then we let the real brain slowly die out].

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997330
But would that be really you? Or just a copy with your memories?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997349
if it would be like >>6997330 said, youre brain starts to use the other brain as new workingplace its more like moving to the other body than copying youre brain into it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997349
That depends on what you mean by you. If you accept that you exist, and that you are in some way the "same" person you were 5 minutes ago, then there's not much less reason to believe it wouldn't be you in the artificial brain.

[Anonymous No.]

Men really got the short end of the stick when it comes to underwear. Women got all kinds of shapes, many different shapes and colors, cute, sexy, elegant, sporty, the sky's the limit. But for men, it boils down to
-Black or white?
-The kind that makes you impotent or not?

No sane man should be able to seriously claim that there is fairness in this world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6996464
Yes, that is Mara, the dutch girl that that germanchan called Literatureloli. I would post that pic, but I don't have it on this hard drive.

[Anonymous No.]

Have any of you guys considered buying underwear like this? This is especially made for men... I recently emailed the seller if she takes commissions but she hasn't gotten back to me yet. If you're interested, her shop is called LingerieByChristine.

What exactly is OpenCog? I've very recently started to study AI and I'm getting very excited... I feel like this is what I want to do but I'm still just a beginner... I've never joined an open source project before. Will you guys... support me?

[Anonymous No.]

To the Anons who were posting about their studying to achieve their dreams, even if we don't see them in our lifetimes, I'm grateful to you. It's good to know that there are people with the same dreams as me, but who are fighting for them.

It's a shame that the thread got derailed by a troll for a while. The discussion has been pretty interesting to say the least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997644
Women's underwear are so smooth, so soft and comfortable. Men's underwear have no comfort, they are just a practical thing. If I could, I'd wear panties under my boxers all the time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997952
Why couldn't you?

[Anonymous No.]

It's just blindingly obvious that if you don't even understand, truly, what intelligence and agency even is at a fundamental level, no amount of futzing with C++ code will let you make an AGI. If you really want to further the cause of AGI, don't start coding blindly, try and figure out how our own intelligence works. The neural network of the nematode C. elegans has exactly 302 neurons and has been completely mapped. We still don't understand how these connections all work to create the patterns of behavior of this simple roundworm, though research is ongoing. If you can't code something that's as smart as a rat, how can you code something that's smarter than a human? The best way to contribute to the cause of AGI is to contribute to basic neuroscience.

And, as I have insisted, even simple AGI is decades if not a century or more away. People are just underestimating how truly difficult the problem is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997988
I live with my parents, they regularly come in my room and rummage around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6997349
I think you are confused about what could possibly constitute personal identity.

Let's just throw souls and other epiphenomena out at the door. We're smarter than that, I hope.

It clearly can't be any physical property, since not one of the atoms we were made of when we were born remains with us the entire time we're alive. And even if some did, why would we say that we were those atoms? Those would only be something that accompanies what truly makes us who we are: our minds. Which is to say: same mind, same person, regardless of separation of time or space. We are information, patterns that endure even as their component parts change.

And yes, if you copied yourself there would be two of you, although each would, in a sense, also be its own person. This is counterintuitive, because you've never had to deal with replication of persons. Picture identity as a river. It can split and come back together, have many tributaries and offshoots, yet it is still all connected. Moreover, the river is not defined by the particular water molecules flowing within it, yet it needs SOME water in it to be a river at all. That is, we are not defined by our particular component parts, but component parts are necessary to construct the pattern which we are.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking idiot janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

Good job janitor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6998033,1
Thread was reaching the limit anyway.
Awesome thread for /jp/ standards, anons!

[A.J.chama No.]

This was a shitty thread. Feel bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Little girls are so cute when they troll and giggle at each other, talk about science fiction while sipping tea elegantly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6998033,4
I don't remember making this post!
Anyways I just skimmed the thread and it seems that once it derailed it actually got interesting.