/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

The bomb system in SA and MoF really piss me off, gives me the feeling that ZUN was lazy and doesn't want to make spellcards for playable characters, no shitty slow moving circle bomb can replace the ecstasy you feel when you Master Spark the fuck out of someone.

The power system is fine, but it would be nice if he could return the bomb system to the EoSD/PCB/IN ones and let them be independent of the power.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.]

fully agree

MoF was shit

SA was shit too but satori saved it

[Anonymous No.]

But how am i supposed to nuke-bomb the bosses that way?

Save up bombs? u mad bro?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987247
>Save up bombs?
Yes, it's your own fault if you die with 7 bombs left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987243
Try UFO

[Anonymous No.]

Wha?
But?

I loved the kappa shield.
And 'new' bomb system != no master spark, it was probably just a coincidence

[Anonymous No.]

SA has shot type-specific bombs.

[Anonymous No.]

I like it. It means you can't bomb through all the spellcards of a boss without suffering for it later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987243
>the ecstasy you feel when you Master Spark the fuck out of someone.
perhaps it isn't a good idea for you to drink
and play Touhou

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987261
Blasphemy! Getting shitfaced and playing on lunatic is a ZUN approved tradition.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987256
There might as well only be one, since there's only one worth while shot type. Seriously, everything other than Reimu A is so bad it's a joke.

>>6987252
And UFO has the most infuriating bullshit scoring system of any shmup I've ever played. Would it have really need that much trouble to put a small timer on the UFOs that change color?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987252
But UFO's shit

[Anonymous No.]

Pft, you're the lazy one for not exploring how cool/useful some of those bombs are.

For example with Marisa A, I fucking love how you can store up to 8 bombs, in my eyes that's like being able to take 8 hits per life. The doll beam also zaps all bullets in the way too so you can easily use them to make a momentary wall off to the side, that will completely protect you for a few moments. But most importantly the laser itself on the doll is weak, but for some reason if you actually plant the doll on something when you bomb (as in run right up the the enemy and plant it) it will do fucking shit tons of damage. On bosses I sometimes will do a first doll-bomb to make a clear path for me to run up to the boss, then just run up and point-blank doll bomb the shit out of it.

Suika's bomb is also very cool if you can time it/place it right, does a lot of damage if you can reflect a storm of bullets + you are near-invulnerable in the bubble. Also Nitori's bomb, used right, is basically a get-out-of-jail-free pass for those boss spellcards that you just can't fucking dodge.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is ZUN delaying Touhou 13 so much?
I mean...Look at this shit

TH12.3 - Touhou Hisoutensoku
TH12.5 -Double Spoiler
TH12.8 - Fairy Wars

If TH 13 is not the best game ever to grace earth i'll cry

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987272
theres still 12.9 to go though

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987277
And 12.95

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987272

Well we'll find out in like.. three ish weeks. That is assuming that he's gonna unleash it at the next Reitaisai, which it seems plausible since he reserved two booths for himself there (which implies he's gonna have a ton of shit out to try to deal with a giant line).

With all the time he's had to think up new things (such as Kasen), and his demonstrating that no, he hasn't actually run out of ideas (Fairy Wars came out of the blue and was fresh).. I've got high hopes. I'm thinking the "incident" may have something to do with Oni/the Four Devas, with the forth one being a boss / the final boss or something. After all he's been working on Kasen's little story, so she might show up too etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987277
ZUN will make touhou 12.9999999... and then make touhou 14. And /sci/ will explode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987301
Well, 12.9999999 is technically a 13 after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987270
You have forgot that
>Aya's bomb breaks any spellcard if you trigger it and instantly step on boss and focus, so that all four orbs are within the enemy's hitbox and deal damage to him directly
>Patchouli can do the same thing with the green(metal?) widespread mode, hitting with even two streams at once - not quite as powerful as Aya, but it is also wider)
>turns out Yukari whom everyone plays has the most useless bomb

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987307
after all those crap posts in /sci/ you people still dont have much of a grasp on limits
aren't you suppose to learn this stuff in highschool anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

I prefer the good and old "clear screen" bomb system as well.

Master sparking was really nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987329

My personal favorite bomb, weird a choice as it is, is Youmu's slash in PCB. Does so much goddamn damage, I abused the shit out of it. Too bad Youmu by herself has a very irritating shot type (at least in my opinion).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987339
Youmu's has the most out of any IN character though, and Yuyuko can wipe the entire screen clear with her shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987349
>Youmu's has the most damage
fuck me .

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987350
>>6987339

More like fuck me, I can't believe I didn't say IN in that other sentence.

I've always wished for an edit button, that's one of the few ways 4chan can be improved .. even though posts are very temporary it still would save more time in the end instead of posting corrections or deleting/reposting.

[proREMIRIAt Elite Force Commander !rSDMROXTB. No.]

I feel the same, MoF bombs were a huge disappointment.

[Anonymous No.]

The new system allows a lot more freedom compared to the old one, the old one requested you to stock up on bombs, this one actually allows you to bomb through the non-boss fights.

Agreed on the animations though, the circles are just plain lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987319
Everyone plays Yukari in SA? Are they masochists? Satori is pure rape with Yukari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987822
I actually find Yukari-Satori incredibly easy. Its Nitori and Suika versions of her that I have the most trouble with. I don't really play Aya or Alice partner, but I recall not liking the intense speed that Aya's spells have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987822
Well, Satori is ONLY hard with Yukari because the spellcards are trademark enough to remember and usually you can get past them through the very character gimmick - tengu macro burst through nonfocus - nonshooting careful positioning, Nitori though bombs, Pandemonium breaks itself by the amount of damage Suika's bomb makes out of it. The good thing about Yukari is that stage 5 is way easier when you can stream past the end of the line. For everyone else it's a non-stop five minute dance that isn't particularily hard, but if you stop concentrating you are usually fucked as there are always some projectiles aimed straight at you - and you don't really feel like fighting MOTHERFUCKING ZOMBIE FAIRIES right after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6987822
I can handle her. It's always fun doing variations Yukari's spellcards without the need to go through Phantasm.