/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why are Japanese people such asses? Even when you talk to them in their language, they suddenly stop replying to your messages. What the fuck is wrong with them?

I knew I should've learned some European language instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>I knew I should've learned some European language instead.

Indeed, french and german are pretty much the best languages in the world.
Your loss for trying to learn such a shitty and useless language like japanese, fucking wapanese faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

You should have learned Spanish or French if you wanted to communicate with people that are tolerable.

Why would you learn Japanese, unless you want to play porn games like us?

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe if I post over and over about how I hate Japan and Japanese people and call other people wapanese, someone reading this board might think I'm less of a dork for consuming the most distinctively Japanese elements of their cultural output and playing games in which I molest little bug-eyed cartoon girls.

Maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917323
People enjoy watching american movies, listening to american music and playing american video games while saying America is a shitty country.
You're a moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917336

And they're hypocrites, too, just like the defensive weeaboos in denial in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917302
No one tolerates the french

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917287
That means he/she no longer wants to talk to you.
Protip: Everyone does it, Japan isn't the problem, your social skills are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917352
That's silly, just because you like some stuff from a country doesn't mean you have to like their whole culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917354
French people are morons but as a language, french is pretty awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

It's only the internet nips (hardcore 2ch-ers) that are really bad, and the handful of old folks that still scream 外人死ね.

Make sure you are being polite and respectful, don't throw around a bunch of だぜs.

[Anonymous No.]

>I knew I should've learned some European language instead.

You could have learned French AND Spanish AND Dutch AND part of another language in the time it takes to learn Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

国民性のせいにしないでもっと魅力的な人物になる努力でもしたら?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917362

No, of course not, but it is remarkably dishonest when people who post on this board call others wapanese or so easily launch into tirades about how they hate Japan. 90% of the time it stinks of first tier weeaboos trying to distance themselves from the rest by pretending that slagging the actual country of Japan where real people live somehow makes you less of the insufferable kind of Western otaku that people hate as you go around playing your eroge and beating off to your comic LO shit. I might be some kind of instinctive defense against the daily "u mad weeaboos?" threads from /b/ shitposters and such, but it's just really tedious and transparent. Most people here are far more keen on Japan than the average person whether they admit it or not.

[Anonymous No.]

I never had any problem like that. Maybe you should try doing twitter in Japanese. People love to get attention and chit chat on there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917362

No, of course not, but it is remarkably dishonest when people who post on this board call others wapanese or so easily launch into tirades about how they hate Japan. 90% of the time it stinks of first tier weeaboos trying to distance themselves from the rest by pretending that slagging the actual country of Japan where real people live somehow makes you less of the insufferable kind of Western otaku that people hate as you go around playing your eroge and beating off to your comic LO shit. It might be some kind of instinctive defense against the daily "u mad weeaboos?" threads from /b/ shitposters and such, but it's just really tedious and transparent. Most people here are far more keen on Japan than the average person whether they admit it or not, and it shows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917407
So you don't like the fact that some people dislike Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

OP, 2chで何か書いてみろｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917417
He's a hypocrit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917417

I find it questionable it comes up as a subject so often here on a board dedicated to fans of Japanese creative culture, and I'm suspicious of the ulterior motives of the people who say these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917407
>Most people here are far more keen on Japan than the average person whether they admit it or not, and it shows.

Not really. Anime and stuff from Japan is incredibly mainstream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917407
Its not dishonest at all. Plenty of people enjoy hollywood movies while hating the america. Its no different. Entertainment is one aspect of a culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917287
What platform are you using to talk with them? It depends of the kind of people you're talking to. I always talked with Japanese (mostly otakus though) on Twitter and they seemed extremely friendly despite my low vocabulary skills, and always replied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917287
>>6917407
Here you go, man. In the future don't throw those terms around so loosely. Enjoying some aspect of a culture doesn't mean you need to respect their heritage or nation. The amount of real weeabos/wapaneses are very minimal, if any on /jp/, so saying it makes you like you're from /a/. Their language sounds nice and learning another language is always a plus regardless of origin. So, if you like their media and want to learn another language, naturally you'll choose japanese. That doesn't mean you actually adore their country or are an actual weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

I have been on 4chan for a while, and often write something.
but when I forgot "s" or something grammar thing, thread was just stopped. always always.
but I dont care. because I know how to stop the thread. LOL

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917354

More than just France speaks french

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917436

I can't wrap my head around those people. Hollywood movies are obnoxious and they embody nearly everything (awful) about American culture. They're one and the same, really.

>>6917440

This isn't an Anime board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917433
Not the same guy, but it's true that most peoples "i hate japan i just love otaku stuff, japan sux" shouting is just an over-compensation for not wanting to admit they might have a weeaboo side. Not always the case of course.

In my experience the biggest "weeaboo haters" have also been the most Japan obsessed though. They just hate weeaboos for not fully understanding the glorious nippon and such, aka, it's like looking in a mirror and seeing their own flaws, so they flip out. A lot like how male and female otaku call each other gross, yet they're hardly different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917433
I think most people here who call other weeaboos aren't serious, you know, we are all weeaboos after all.

[Anonymous No.]

it begins

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917463
I agree with you on that. Some people have to learn to take a joke. I think some are dead serious though. Mainly those who admire Japanese people so highly, they think any non-Japanese person doing anything Japanese-ish is an insult to the culture instead of chilling out and having fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917454

Culture is intertwined with nationality. If you like Japanese things, then to a large degree, you like Japan. Not necessarily in it's entirety, but more than what would permit you to go about admonishing other people for being weeaboos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917460
I find it understandable that people might want to separate themselves from wapanese retards, after all they're quite the scum, maybe even worse than wigger or at least just as bad.
Going as far as spouting everywhere how they hate japan, etc... is quite silly though, they just shouldn't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917459
>and stuff from Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917407
I agree completely. I can understand that people don't want to discuss Japanese architecture or politics or some shit like that, like people always insisted on back when we were called Japan/General, but the way some people always need to talk about how little they care about Japan, how they would hate living there, how all Japanese people are racist and would accept a gaijin in their midst, it all strikes me as defensive behavior, as you said, an attempt at distancing themselves from people who suddenly think Japanese culture is cool after watching anime. Hell, I'd speculate that many of these people have been through that phase themselves, which they're ashamed of, creating further incentive to distance themselves form it.

[Anonymous No.]

The only people who care, or especially rage about weeaboos are weeaboos in denial who are afraid of looking bad to Japanese people, who they imagine as the ultimate beings no one else can be close to, and who hate anyone who takes an interest in their country. In reality, they don't care.

>>6917486
>>6917483
Yes exactly. The problem with the typical weeaboo retard isn't the japanese part. It's the retard part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917476
If you play that game, then you can easily link everything, so basically you can't technically dislike anything.

Otaku culture is hardly apart of actual Japanese culture, it's a subset and one which isn't well received/respected.

Japan just lucked out and is the only place producing: High quality animation, series; instead of episodic, high quality vocals, extensive variety of genre and demographics, high sexual tolerance. Great, I'm glad someone is doing it, but it isn't because nihon is amazing or special. If american studios would make quality animation series, instead of episodic shit I'd watch that, but we've got a low tolerance for lolicon stuff, so it wouldn't be the same, still my point stands though.

[Anonymous No.]

I just say I hate japan because I don't want to talk about whales or korean islands or 3d jap tv shows or dumb bullshit like that. I thought that was what all of /jp/ did.

In reality I'm as apathetic towards japan as the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.]

The only people I dislike in that term are the ones like these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917505
So Japan is the only one with the right culture to make the stuff you like. But you somehow hate that culture. Of course you'd like other places if they were just like Japan. What a tsundere.

[Anonymous No.]

otaku for otaku. retard for retard.
there are same kind of population also in japan.
you should find your soul mates.
there are ameriboo. niggboo. koreaboo and majority japanese hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917527

For all you know he could love the 1960s disney stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917521
Hello me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917533
What does that have to do with anything? You can like stuff from more than one country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917539

You're the one implying that only Japan houses the culture to create what he enjoys

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917545
He said "Japan just lucked out and is the only place producing: High quality animation series". That's all I meant. As in, he was saying Japan is the only place with the right culture to produce that stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys this is YOGHURT.
It has a RICH and FANTASTIC culture, your argument is invalid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917561
Don't you mean GORGEOUS and DELICIOUS?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917561
Now that's something we can all agree on!

[Anonymous No.]

I'm not agree with that talk about French ppl. Ne soyez pas si catégoriques, mes amis.

We're all very kind to stran.... Oh I get it, forget it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917586
It's OK france, I know that feel...

[Anonymous No.]

Every country has their good and bad points. Japan just has a shitty government, language, schooling, caste system, suicide rate, population density, birth rate, racial diversity & equality, gender equality...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917586
Il y a bien une raison pour laquelle notre pays est internationalement détesté, la plupart de nos compatriotes sont assez stupides il faut bien l'avouer.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, wait. You learned Japanese just so you could talk to people? Fuck, you don't need to learn a language. Go practice your social skills.

[Anonymous No.]

anglais svp

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917287

It depends on their level of maturity, right? I'm sure there are plenty of ignorant, insular people from other parts of Asia, Europe and the Americas that would do the same thing. How old are you and what's the context in which you're talking to them?

Personally, I've never had a problem with people from Ukraine, Ireland, France, Australia or Japan. In fact the people that I have interacted with from all those places have been fantastic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917561

Best post in the entire thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917360
Oh fuck off. I can keep in touch perfectly fine with non-Japanese people without getting into drama. Japanese are uptight xenophobic fuckers, but I like their stuff anyway so maybe I don't fully believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917287
I noticed the same - all Japanese have random moments when they just stop to message you or disconnect. No real reason. If you want to chat with Asians best are Koreans and Chinese (as long as they speak English)

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, this thread again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918959
Thing is, site says that she logged in within 3 hours (Lang-8 by the way, it's a language exchange site) but she didn't reply my message, which I sent last Monday. Come the fuck on, the moment I told her it'd be nice if she could help me practice my Japanese she began writing WALLS OF TEXT in it and although it's usually hard to understand without a dictionary, it was still useful and she even told me about her private life.

Then she fucking disappears. Same thing happened me with a female Japanese penpal a few years back, and I keep bringing this up: We've been exchanging emails for some time and suddenly one morning she sends me a picture of her notebook or something, on which she wrote my name and "I <3". Then she stopped mailing me altogether.

The fuck is wrong with their women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918982
Maybe they were annoyed at your slow progress or something. Maybe you come across as particularly desperate or obsessive. The fact that this keeps happening to you suggests that the fault lies with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918982
>We've been exchanging emails for some time and suddenly one morning she sends me a picture of her notebook or something, on which she wrote my name and "I <3".
>Then she stopped mailing me altogether.
She probably killed herself, after realizing she could never be with you. Or something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918982
It's "I greater than three" or "I'm seeing three other guys, I can't be with you anymore."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917596
And, most important of all, the economy!

Of course, it's -precisely because- Japan is absolute shit in all of these that the breeding ground for "Otaku Culture" is made.

OP, I can hate all other aspects of Japan while still acknowledging that I wouldn't be able to enjoy the one aspect I do without them.

Kinda like good old Tommy Jay and his slaves. There was no way in hell he could have an official mixed relationship, but he could at least have an affair with his slave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918959
I only know one Japanese dude who does that.. Eventually I asked him about it because it was getting annoying and he said it's cause he was just using his cell phone to chat during idle moments, and he often lost reception when chatting on the train.

>>6918982
Sorry to admit I've done the same thing in reverse to Japanese people wanting to practice their English... It gets boring after a while because unless they either don't add anything to the conversation, make selfish requests about helping with homework, we have no common ground to talk about, or they even make weird demands about the amount of time between messages and the length of them. I had to make a specific message on my profile saying don't contact me for English help, but I still get those messages now and then. Anyway I'm sure Japanese babes get tons of messages from American weeaboos depending on what site you're on.

Maybe you're on mixi? Start doing twitter or something.

[Bernd No.]

a friend of mine is working as english teacher there for 5 years now and he still finds it difficult to start a conversation with a random jap. In school there are no problems, but like 90% on the street are incredibly shy, when they meet a baka gaijin.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it me or do we get more of these newfag type threads with reaction images lately?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919080
Who the heck just walks up to someone on the street and starts a conversation in any country?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919020
I wasn't the one writing walls of text or talking about my private life all the time. Though my last message was pretty lenghty for a change. Besides, my progress is pretty damn well considering that I learn by myself and most of it passively (nowadays, when I'm too engrossed in vidya and anime). I'm satisfied with it.

I avoided asking personal questions. What she told me was on her own volition.

With the other girl I talked in English. Not sure what was her problem.

>>6919044
Stupid bitch. I needed her alive. What use is she to me if she's dead? If she really loved me then maybe she should have thought it over.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe you come off as an annoying weeaboo fuck like you do in this thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919078
She doesn't speak English at all according to her profile, so we spoke only in Japanese. Besides, I'm not American and she already had a boyfriend who she kept mentioning numerous times in her messages.

Nope, I can't register to Mixi without a Japanese cellphone. They changed it so everyone needs to confirm their registration through SMS, including people outside of Japan. And about Twitter, I have none to talk to over there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919094
Doubt that, pal. I never mentioned anime, manga or anything that would imply it. On the contrary she told me that she listens to Vocaloid and plays RPG games, so maybe you should fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919103
If you really wanna learn the language, start talking to dudes, not just girls.. and find people who have the same interests as you so you can both actually have fun in the conversations. I met most of my initial friends through mixi which yeah, you can't get into now, but now we mainly talk on twitter / msn. Try searching for a term of a series you like and checking out people's profiles that come up, or finding the profile of a creator / artist you like and look through their followers a bit. That's the best I can come up with.

I've learned Japanese pretty well on self study too, talking to people a lot online is a great help, you may even find people to skype with you. Good luck, but losing that attitude will help ya.

[Anonymous No.]

I started learning myself Japanese a few weeks ago, but I doubt I'd be capable of fluent conversation about anything nontrivial with an actual Jap. At what level would you be capable of conversing in nihongo online without seeming like an incredible baka gaijin? I know a few dozen kanji and I'd say I could probably converse with a Japanese kindergartener.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919157
Number of kanji you know isn't really significant online since you can look them up with a simple copy / paste or hover if you have an extension installed. It's more about your grammar.

You probably won't seem like a "baka gaijin" since Japanese people are used to foreigners knowing little to no Japanese and making no attempt to speak it. They're generally impressed by even a little knowledge.

That being said, after just a few weeks, unless you stick to textbook convos, I think you'd end up confusing whoever you spoke with. They might still get a kick out of it, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919103
>Nope, I can't register to Mixi without a Japanese cellphone. They changed it so everyone needs to confirm their registration through SMS, including people outside of Japan.
You now realize that in the future all Japanese websites that interest you, like Nicovideo and Pixiv, will require you to sign up like that.

;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919278
Nah, mixi did it to keep out spammers. There was a pretty big problem with fake profiles sending out junk mail.

[Anonymous No.]

The fuck is the point of learning by talking, learn to read so you can play eroge in japanese, there is no other reason, get your fucking priorities straight.