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6914210 No.6914210 [Reply] [Original]

Why DOES everyone follow the Spellcard rule Reimu made up, anyways? Characters like Orin and Utsuho have full intent to kill and take Reimu's corpse or eat her flesh, not to mention they were stuck underground with no contact with the upper world. Why would they obey the law their victim set up herself?

>> No.6914216

Because they are all polite women.

>> No.6914220

If they don't they'll die.

>> No.6914225

>>6914210
First of all, remember that they don't want to hurt Reimu. They really don't want to hurt her. Reimu dies, Gensokyo is no more. It's that simple.

>> No.6914224

Because Reimu will seal their asses if they don't

>> No.6914228

Because you really don't want to make Reimu get serious.

>> No.6914234

Orange fought Reimu before the spellcard rules were in place and just look at what happened to her.

>> No.6914235
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>>6914225
Most don't but some do. Orin specifically keeps tracking you down in Stage 6 after her boss fight because "oh oops I forgot if I want your corpse I better take you down before you get fried" and Okuu has dialogue suggesting she wants to eat Reimu after deep-frying her. She DID just go mad after eating the corpse of a god, after all.

In Byakuren's case, she just got released from being sealed. How does she even have spellcards?

>> No.6914237

>>6914234
Everyone in the PC-98 era fought Reimu before the spellcard rules were in place and look what happened to them.

>> No.6914238

A related question would be how these people who have no contact with the outside world, until the heroine forces them to tea parties, know of the spellcard rules in the first place. Although I guess you can bullshit for everyone except Hijiri.

>> No.6914243

>>6914237
All of them except for Yuuka, Alice, and Marisa vanished. Coincidence? I think not.

>> No.6914247

>>6914235
Half of the cast has a dialogue suggesting they want to eat their opponent as one point or another. Some even have a dialogue suggesting they have eaten their opponent.

This does not mean anything, really.

>> No.6914263
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>>6914243
That still doesn't explain Mima, who was the fourth playable character in the final PC-98 game.

>>6914247
That would mean Orin is a MASSIVE, MASSIVE troll. She sends help signals to get Reimu and Marisa to come help her friend Okuu out, then turns around and repeatedly attacks them, being arguably the hardest penultimate boss ever in Touhou, and she finally cooperates and gives you information about Okuu's whereabouts so you can do what she originally requested you for in the first place...until she then stalks you some more just for one final attempt at taking your life!

Be of good cheer~!

>> No.6914264

Anyone have that copypasta where danmaku battles are really just mating rituals?

>> No.6914272

>>6914235
I know nothing about the thread and cannot contribute to it in any plausible way, but I just want you to know.

I like your picture and would like to know if it's an actual part of something.

>> No.6914276

>>6914264
Easymodo, surely.

>> No.6914283

>>6914264
I never heard of that, huh. I hope someone post it.
>>6914235
Yuyuko eats mystia and yet she appears on PoFV.
ZUN itself said that the dialogs and history of the games are there just for the heck of it, since they are just shrumps. Don't take anything too seriously

>> No.6914285
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>>6914272
Yes it is! It's part of a series of video manga called "Shishio Makoto Enters Gensokyo!" Yes, the Rurouni Kenshin villain enters Chireiden, for he did intend to conquer hell at the end of his series!

Yes, this is Shishio making Okuu cry, being the big bad he is ;_;

Here's episode 1 part 1 (there are 4 episodes out far that I could find): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOoztCYFYW4

>> No.6914293

>Reimu dies, Gensokyo is no more. It's that simple.

We have no hard proof of this. It's never been tried.

>> No.6914299

>>6914293
Teehehe

>> No.6914308

>>6914293
Regarding >>6914299 your post made me giggle like the little girl I am. Can you picture me laughing like that?

>> No.6914330

STOP MAKING OKUU CRY YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES.

>> No.6914345

>>6914224
>>6914228
This, essentially. The endless battle between youkai stirring up trouble and humans putting them down is necessary for Gensokyo to function properly. But Reimu - one of the humans best equipped to do it - is at once so hax/important that youkai can't really win such a fight, and too lazy to want to deal with every troublemaker in Gensokyo. So, spellcards. Youkai can still cause trouble, and she can still resolve them, but 1) nobody has to get into a hopeless battle to do it and 2) it means humans who couldn't defend themselves normally can call spell-card duel and not die whether they win or lose (so less for her to deal with personally).

It's easy for the person with the superweapons to make the rules.

>> No.6914355

>>6914210
They're more of a natural rule for every species in Gensokyo rather than words written on paper that everyone just so happens to obey (although they are indeed written on paper as well.

And yes, Okuu did want to turn Gensokyo into a new hell, but she had to beat Reimu (the guardian) first to do so.

>> No.6914358

Because if they didn't there'd be no pretty patterns.

>> No.6914370

>>6914358
Fuck you and your canon. People are being so creative here, and then you chime in and give the actual answer in the most mundane way possible.

>> No.6914371

Because the laws of the world were quite literally written by a drunkard.

>> No.6914438

>>6914355
>They're more of a natural rule for every species in Gensokyo
I find this rather absurd. Gensokyo can't enforce that sort of thing just by existing, you know. Really, it's just ZUN bending the rules in service of the plot.

>> No.6914441

ZUN didn't want anybody to die so he made up some bullshit.

>> No.6914445

>>6914370
My answer has nothing to do with canon. Regardless, that's a weird thing to say when everyone else is trying to respect canon here.

>> No.6914459

>>6914438
...And the difference is?

>> No.6914465
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6914465

The spellcard system is like the codex astartes of Touhou.

>> No.6914468

>>6914438

>touhou
>plot

That's rich.

>> No.6914487

Which Reimu set them up, though? Most likely it was the PC-98 one (靈夢) that set them up, and then her successor (霊夢) enforced them.

>> No.6914489

The spellcard rules are fine for keeping thousand year old ladies from destroying the world with their hax powers, but in the case of low level youkai they seem rather oppressive, considering many of them need to kill humans to survive.

>> No.6914492

>>6914487
Spellcard rules were set up in EoSD

>> No.6914502

>>6914487
What are you talking about? They're both the same Reimu, stop believing in theories from TVTropes or Touhouwiki.

>> No.6914509
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>>6914489
This is true youkai extermination. Reimu guiltrips them with tea, which does not actually feed their stomachs, so they slowly starve to death while thinking that they are all happily drinking tea together.

>> No.6914520

>>6914509
Actually I believe humans were just an occasional noon snack, else many youkais would have starved to death since EoSD (about a year before UFO chronologically).

>> No.6914535

>>6914520
God damn it stop that

>> No.6914547

If it's flesh and blood, youkai'll eat it.

Humans, having a rather succulent flesh ("long pig," we're called), are a delicacy to the discerning youkai taste.

Reimu, being all skin, bones and hax from the meager few donations she gets from hosting festivals (the proceeds of which mainly go into the planning of future festivals), isn't particularly tasty.

Marisa, who eats enough hallucinogenic mushrooms on a regular basis, is, if anything, even less tasty. Unless you're into that sort of thing.

>> No.6914561

>>6914438
>Gensokyo can't enforce that sort of thing just by existing, you know.

Yes, it can, actually. Dragon(s) can, that is.

>> No.6914565

>>6914547
You are shitting me, right? Humans would make for awful cattle, our meat is shit.

>> No.6914571

>>6914520
>EoSD (about a year before UFO chronologically).

About seven years, you mean. Gensokyo runs in real time.

>> No.6914581

>>6914263
Orin confirmed for god tier troll

>> No.6914588
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>>6914571

>> No.6914598
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>>6914565
The best part about eating human isn't the taste of the flesh, but their desperate screams for help and agonized wailing as you tear into them.

I guess.

>> No.6914604

>>6914565

Humans eat humans all the time. Maori warriors were particularly infamous for it during the late 1800s. Cannibalism is sometimes cultural, not out of starvation situations.

Supposedly, we taste like pork. But sweeter. Flandre's little treats...

>> No.6914600

Maybe the "eating" isn't literal, if you catch my drift.

>> No.6914608

>>6914588
Yep. And drop those reaction images of yours, you're not on /a/.

>> No.6914610

>>6914520
http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Gensokyo_Timeline

>> No.6914618

>>6914565

from wiki: "Prior to 1931, New York Times reporter William Buehler Seabrook, allegedly in the interests of "research", obtained from a hospital intern at the Sorbonne a chunk of human meat from the body of a healthy human killed in an accident, then cooked and ate it. He reported, "It was like good, fully-developed veal, not young, but not yet beef. It was very definitely like that, and it was not like any other meat I had ever tasted. It was so nearly like good, fully developed veal that I think no person with a palate of ordinary, normal sensitiveness could distinguish it from veal. It was mild, good meat with no other sharply defined or highly characteristic taste such as for instance, goat, high game, and pork have. The steak was slightly tougher than prime veal, a little stringy, but not too tough or stringy to be agreeably edible. The roast, from which I cut and ate a central slice, was tender, and in color, texture, smell as well as taste, strengthened my certainty that of all the meats we habitually know, veal is the one meat to which this meat is accurately comparable.""

>> No.6914621

>>6914565
This is true. Carnivore meat tastes absolutely rancid. I remember my crazy uncle took me fox chasing up north, and one of dogs ended up killing a fox. He asked if I ever had fox meat, and he cooked it and had it for dinner. Every bit was like eating crusty roadkill, and made me gag like fuck. I finished eating to not make him feel bad, as I felt it was my fault the fox was killed in the first place. (You're not supposed to kill the foxes)

>> No.6914629

>>6914604
If you know that much, you probably also know that a ritualised action isn't necessarily pleasant. Besides, the vast majority of anthropophagic customs don't involve people eating humans as if they were eating chicken. The meat is prepared in a way that it pretty much becomes a powder and is eaten in small quantities.

>> No.6914634

>>6914629

I dunno, man. I could go for some veal right now.

>> No.6914635

>>6914621
>>6914618
Woah! wait what, where did the treath derailed?

>> No.6914640

>>6914635

Right about here, I think: >>6914489

>> No.6914649

>>6914610
In that case both Reimu and Marisa would either midgets or not human, as they would be in their 20s by now. Either those or a mystic outwordly spell that prevents them from going over the mid-teens barrier, hinthint.

>> No.6914657

>>6914649

Or it could be that ZUN sucks at drawing older people and they really are supposed to be in their 20s.

Either that, or he got drunk and forgot about the timeline.

It's ZUN. Deal with it.

>> No.6914666

>>6914649
UFO Reimu and Marisa look clearly older than they do in IN.

>> No.6914678

I want a watchmen-like doujin about middle aged touhous. "Jesus, what were we thinking, going around wearing silly hats and shooting lasers..."

>> No.6914694

>>6914657
Actually, he doesn't want people to know their ages as that would make them go pass the mid-teens barrier. I don't have the afterword/interview link right now so I can't prove myself for now.

>> No.6914699

>>6914678

"...oh, wait, yeah, LASERS."

Let's face it. It's pretty hard to wangst when you can fire LASERS at will and with minimal consequence.

>> No.6914702

>>6914678
>>>/co/ with your "hurr durr grimdark tohoes"

>> No.6914703

>>6914678
i would like to see reimu having a children
i will cry all my weight in tears

>> No.6914705

>>6914678
Fund it?

>> No.6914709

>>6914702

>>>/c/ with your hurr moe moe 2hus.

>> No.6914716

>>6914702
>>6914709

>greentextgreentextgreentext
>>>/a/ gentlemen

>> No.6914725

>>6914703
>a children

>> No.6914731

>>6914716

>>>/b/ for not knowing it's impossible to post without greentext after posting ">" on the same line.

>> No.6914737

>>6914703
What happened to us, anyway? Reimu become the shallowest kind of housewife, drugs are eating away what is left of Marisa's mind, Remilia dissipated her wealth in vain endeavours, Alice refuses to go outside...

>> No.6914742

>>6914731
>I wouldn't say that...

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>>6914742

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>>6914703
Already happened.

>> No.6914754

>>6914742
FUCK OFF OF 4CHAN YOU FUCKING HACKER

>> No.6914762

>>6914753

It's... wrong that such a cute child should come out of such a perverse doujin.

>> No.6914766

>>6914762
6 and 9 were the best

>> No.6914767
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>>6914737
What is wrong in my life
That I must get drunk every night

>> No.6914771

I hate all who call Utsuho Okuu

>> No.6914777

>>6914767
You missed the pic of a non-loli suika yo

>> No.6914784

>>6914771
That means you hate ZUN.
How dare you hate on your own god !?

>> No.6914790

>>6914771
>>6914784
BURN THE WITCH

>> No.6914791
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6914791

Because I tweak things around so that they HAVE to fight Reimu with spellcards. Only during an incident, though.
Of course, I only really started enforcing it after she fought me. I'm just glad she wasn't killed before then.

>> No.6914802

>>6914791

Stop this roleplaying foolishness at once.

>> No.6914803

>>6914598
Humans raised in such an environment would eventually give up.

They'd just sit there and look sad while being slaughtered.

And its not even something that would take long, programmed helplessness would set in probably within 10 generations.

The best part is before that you'd have to control the suicides.

Humans can kill themselves with almost anything. From a deck of cards to a hard wall.

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>>6914802

>> No.6914814
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>>6914810
*sip*

>> No.6914820
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>>6914814
No.

>> No.6914826

>>6914810
>>6914814
>>6914820
Alright, you got a smile out of me.

>> No.6914832

Why has no one posted this yet? 6914264, here you go

The mating ritual of the modern Touhou is complex and deep. During periods of great stress, usually brought on by environmental events such as unusual fog or violent weather patterns a Touhou will become agitated from normal behavior and take to the sky in search of a mate. When a possible suitor is discovered a terse verbal exchange is made in which the two Touhous evaluate the willingness to mate of the other party. If both parties are prepared to reproduced they begin the complex mating dance of the Touhou.
They release haploid gametophytes called "danmaku" in a semi-random pattern over an extended period of time. This danmaku is comparable to the way in which plants release large amounts of pollen over a wide area. However it also serves another purpose. Much like the peacock's plume the way in which a Touhou arranges danmaku beautifully demonstrates the sexual fitness of a potential mate. If a danmaku reaches an egg, sometimes called a "hit box" then that Touhou will typically become submissive and follow the now dominant partner to a new location for tea, a necessary nutrient for the growing child.
Due to the semi-random nature of danmaku based reproduction breeding there are sometimes accidental fertilization, resulting in unusual combinations of mates, also known as "crack pairings."

>> No.6914853

>>6914225
No. Nothing will happen. Gensokyo is domain of Yukari. Reimu can die as much as she wants to. It's just matter of plot-shield from ZUN. inb4 Reimu being perfect japanese waifu

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6914908

>>6914832
pffffffft

>> No.6914921

Congratulations,
>>6914832
You made Yukarin spit out her tea.
>>6914908

>> No.6914923

>>6914853
They don't hurt her because they like her.

>> No.6915196

>>6914832
A+

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