Ar Tonelico and GUST thread

[Anonymous No.]

Previous thread: >>6688707
Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Special_Issue_5

[Anonymous No.]

Cocona hymmnos musical:
http://www.mediafire.com/?letcjqruowol5gw

Link to the album ripper's site too because it's nicely organized with the other AT OSTs: http://skyvatilia.blogspot.com/


In before: Halloween.jpg, Luca is a whore and a slut, that guy with the cocona, and trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

So I hear AT3 got an M rating returned from the ESRB.

[Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎ Ｂangkok No.]

>implying anybody cares abour the ESRB

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

Not related but I bought Atilier Rorona and Trinity Universe.

I'm also looking forward to AT3 and Hyper Dimension.

Any good jRPGs coming out after these? Except well Disgaea 4 and maybe Agarest 2?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839239

Due to the way ESRB submission works, that could mean NISA is actually giving a shit about it this time and not just slapping on a half-assed translation and sending the parts they translated legibly to the ESRB like last time.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Totori have a release date yet?

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>6839249
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/17/ar-tonelico-qoga-is-nis-americas-first-m-rated-game/

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>6839256
I don't think so...

but
>Ar Tonelico Qoga doesn’t have a finalized release date yet, but Gamefly have it listed for a March release. Meanwhile, Europe are getting Ar Tonelico Qoga on March 25th. We’ll keep you posted as we learn more of the game in the weeks to come.

also

important http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/17/siliconeras-hyperdimension-neptunia-fan-powered-qa-part-1/

In recent times, NIS America has taken more of a Working Designs-type of approach to localization, taking liberties with the way certain lines and memes and pop-culture references are expressed. There are fans, however, that would prefer a more strict “translation” as opposed to “localization.” Are you trying to appease both parties?
Really? Well, I suppose I can admit I went a bit crazy and had fun with Trinity Universe, but you can safely use that as the wildest we’ll probably ever get. Atelier Rorona, conversely, was kept mostly literal. I think we’re appeasing both parties, and if you refer to my ZHP Developer’s Blog post, you’ll read about why sometimes I stray from the script. It’s all for the sake of creating unique, flavorful characters with distinct personalities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839247
Rorona, Totorin and Trinity Universe is GUST related. I'm sure everyone's looking forward to AT3 and Neptunia.

Also,
>Agarest
>good
It's pretty long and drawn out it gets boring.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we appreciate 3D as well?

[Anonymous No.]

What does Qoga mean?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm buying Ar Tonelico 3 when it comes out in the US, but has anyone had any luck getting the Japanese version working on a jailbroken console?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839229
Latest Toukousphere translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_107

Flash Cosmosphere 2 is translated:
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/

(Sorry about the shameless self-promotion. And, thanks again. I wouldn't have been able to do the FCS without all the tips I got from this thread back in November.)

>>6842096
The time of judgement/end of the world. Probably in Pastalie, since it only occurs in Pastalie sentences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839267
Agarest 2 actually having a world map is enough to get me interested

[Anonymous No.]

>>6842106
>but has anyone had any luck getting the Japanese version working on a jailbroken console
Why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6842439
Media extraction. I'm not that guy, but for example, I have doubly-looped GSTs (THE WAY GAME SOUNDTRACKS WERE MEANT TO BE) of AT1 and AT2 because for cat's sake it's ADX. But you can't get the data off the AT3 disc without a jailbreak (for now), so this is impossible. Getting at the sound data for AT3 is even more attractive because of RAH.

Also, the world needs more bare Harve shoulders.

[Anonymous No.]

I find it impossible for these two to meet too.

[Anonymous No.]

>Toukousphere
Please explain.

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>6842106
I downloaded AT3 and played it on my JB PS3 if that's what you mean. Unless you mean playing the retail copy of the game on your JB PS3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6843564
The column where AT devs and fans interact? It's a nice read if you're into the setting of AT.

[Anonymous No.]

Huh, refresh /a/ after waking up and see an AT thread, that's a first. Nice to see another AT thread.

>>6843564

Users send in questions and such, Tsuchiya (the guy who pretty much made AT) responds by using any characters shown in the AT series. It's quite a fun, light hearted area that makes me appreciate Tsuchiya even more as he sits down and makes a Toukousphere even when he's extremely busy. Take a few hours out of your day and have a read through the translated Toukousphere's, they're all pretty much a good read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6843665
>refresh /a/
>/a/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6843752

>>>/a/45002643

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839230

>Luca is a whore and a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>6842491

You aren't worthy of seeing her shoulders.

[Anonymous No.]

GUST should sell off a pair of Harve's shoes, they'd probably make a fortune. I, too, want to lick the insides of her shoes. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6847224
Oh god, that picture, it makes me smile every time I see it. She's just SO HAPPY eating that pudding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6847324

I really miss XP and Vista on Twitter. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6847355
Me too. I was pretty down when I found out like six hours later that Vista had made a quick comeback on New Year's eve. Well, what else can we do but take care in maintaining the Kingdom of Moja!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6847456

At least the latest TKS hints at a possible return of it, especially since Tsuchiya enjoyed doing it too.

[Anonymous No.]

>Some power moves cause female characters’ clothes to vanish in layers; the characters are often depicted holding (covering) their breasts, wearing only underwear, or standing behind strips of light that obscure their genitals.

>In one cutscene, male characters encourage a woman to strip (e.g., "Uh . . . do I have to take off even more clothes…?" and "Quit teasing us and do it already!"); another sequence depicts a male character "removing" a magical crystal from a female character—this scene is accompanied by suggestive moans and comments (e.g., "Aoto’s putting his hand inside Soma" and "Fumble around every inch inside of her . . . you will find what you’re looking for . . . !"). One brief cutscene depicts a female character’s exposed buttocks.

Oh ESRB, you so crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839229
First time ps2 emulator user/Ar Tonelico player here, do I need a gamepad with dual sticks to play this? Mine only has a D-pad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6849296
Just use your keyboard. There isn't a need for a gamepad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6849301
I'm used to playing with a pad, I can't play without it.
But if it's playable with a keyboard then it probably works with my pad too, thanks.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>6849315
It's turn based you don't need analog sticks.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

luca is a whore and a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>6849550

What was that? I can't hear you over her being superior to Pastatits.

[Anonymous No.]

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6850063
>superior to Pastatits

Ahahahahaha. No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6851266

I thought you had better taste, good sir.

[Anonymous No.]

Though it's not like it matters since Jakuri and Cocona are superior to both of them.

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

Luca is about the worst Reyvateil in all of Ar Tonelico.

But yes, it doesn't really matter, since we have Mir and Cocona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6854386

Looks wise? Certainly not. Personality wise? Debatable. Cloche is a generic annoying tsundere, Saki is a childish moeblob etc.

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6854937
Everything about Luca seems forced. Her smile, her general look, fuck, even her plot twist seems forced. I much rather have a generic tsundere or a moeblob (though Saki isn't that much higher in my book than Luca at the moment).

But let's get back to the good characters, shall we?

[Anonymous No.]

Sure is prostitutes around here

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6855073
Whoops, accidentially took the transparent background one. Here's the normal one.

[Anonymous No.]

Great thread as always.

[Anonymous No.]

Luca, Cloche, Mule, etc. But we can all agree that the superior heroine is Misha, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855094

I'm glad you could contribute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855073
That's not much of an argument, it's more of a personal opinion. I doubt Mir would approve of you using her name for trolling.

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6855354
So ones honest opinion is now trolling? What the hell have I missed in the few hours I didn't check the internet?
It's not like I ever stated it as a fact or something. Isn't it obvious that such stuff is nothing but someones personal opinion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855294
Shalanoir ;_;

Hama and Akane were so disappointed about the poor showing of pictures in 108 that I might have to try to send in something for 109. I really liked this picture, though. Targana's a pretty okay guy when all's said and done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855354

The same could be said for the statement he was replying to so I don't really see the problem. He's entitled to his opinion and I'm entitled to my own, we're simply just discussing said opinions. I'll always love him for all the hard work he has done.

>>6856113

Pixiv has been pretty quiet with AT/Totori images for a few weeks now, it makes me quite sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855073
>Everything about Luca seems forced
I know how it could not appeal to everyone but... that was kinda the entire point of the character. She's a bitter, horrible girl who forces herself to be all nice and smiles and flashy clothes because she knows that's how the world goes around.
It's an archetype much closer to reality as far as "grittiness" goes than say, tsundere or moeblob, so that's why probably some people have difficulty to digest her.
I like her the least out of the AT2 heroines, but still I thought she was a pretty well-written character for a saga that tries to be about psychologically disturbed people. The only reason I didn't find her that attractive is because she reminds me of myself, and I don't like that in my vidya waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6856308
The defining traits of someone that is "Tsundere" is still pretty broad through.
How can it not go from completely unrealistic, all the way to completely realistic?
It's not as if it archtype in itself requires a major change in a character.
And what's a moeblob is subjective and up for discussion, although the universal truth of the blob factor would be that it's somehow many things at the same time.

Luca is also what has been come to known as Dorodere. .

[Anonymous No.]

>>6855904
It's the only consistent source of unpleasantry in these threads. And >>6855073 doesn't give an "IMO" feel at all, see >>6856308 for comparison.


>>6856206
>The same could be said for the statement he was replying to so I don't really see the problem.
Said statement (>>6850063) was replying to a ridiculous form of trolling that has persisted, to levels indicating some sort of mental illness, since these threads began. I don't see you addressing that. If he (>>6849550) can shit his views all over these threads, what's wrong with expressing an opposing one?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

When I become meido all video game thread will be banned

[Anonymous No.]

>>6857032

Erm, he was responding to >>6854937 which was an entirely opinionated post made my me.

>>6857141

Anyone have any progress with vectoring this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6857184
>When

Maybe around the time the universe ends. It's gonna be a while for that, matey.

[Anonymous No.]

>Check Pixiv and see this

..interesting.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

Yes I just got my Trinity Universe.

Damn the OST is pretty nice.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GRVU4NI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTkJ9tG4k-Q

["iluvOP !ge9bznqAsg No.]

>>6858753
Ah, Im so happy for you!
That game is great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6857464
I was referring to >>6850063 replying to >>6849550.

[Anonymous No.]

Canon end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6859313
You wish.
Actually, we all do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6859313

Canon end is this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6859512

Because imouto route is always the best.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I am fuck
Why was there so little cocona time in AT2
Give me some god damn cocona bath music

[Anonymous No.]

So I was poking through the archive and I happened to see this:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/6213597#p6230332

Might anyone have the translation of this page? I sure as heck would love to know more about the backstory of Salavec Rhaplanca, and the two differing translations of that song don't help at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6861202

I don't think it was ever translated, unfortunately. If someone could post the image in question perhaps transanon could take a look at it if he has time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6861202
Youtube comments for Salavec Rhaplanca. Don't cringe yet.

@variablle Rhaplanca is a goddess in Metafalss's Legends. Its best if you watch vids in this order.

1. EXEC_METAFALICA/.

2. EXEC_HIBANATION/.

3. METHOD_IMPLANTA/.

4. METHOD_METAFALICA/.

5. EXEC_with.METHOD METAFALICA/.

Then youll find out who rhaplanca is, what she did and what maoh did for her.

[Anonymous No.]

Requesting a higher res. of this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6863745
http://danbooru.iqdb.hanyuu.net/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6863745

There isn't, unless you want it upscaled.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6863934
Ok so I went to iqdb and searched it for you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6864344

My mistake, I didn't notice there was a bigger version on Pixiv when I originally saved it months ago, only the 3 smaller resolutions of it.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread needs some Totorin.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6867145
Oh yes, I can't wait to preorder but never play you!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6867248
Namae?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6867248

Why wouldn't you want to play with her? You monster.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

Can't wait to play with Rorona if you know what I mean.
I mean controling her and helping her finish stuff on line

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869071
Remember Pie End is best and canon end.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>6869077

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869093

And this is why Totori is superior. Delicious DFC > Rorona's tumours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6867248
Atelier Totori is hands-down the best Atelier game, why the hell wouldn't you play with her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869772
Because it's 3D and therefore bad.

[Anonymous No.]

Discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869791
Who is number 3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6870012
The main heroine in the latest Tales of

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869772
Because it would end up sitting underneath Atelier Rorona, which is currently on top of a very large stack of games I have yet to play and might never will, ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869791
Other than a certain broken Vocaloid, all is right with the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6869778

Oh you.

>>6869791

>Totori beating the moeblob

I'm fine with this.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of Tales...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=419756

[Anonymous No.]

>>6870457
Sometimes, I wonder why they didn't think that the West wasn't ready for the DS titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6870457
Sometimes, I wonder why they thought that the West wasn't ready for the DS titles.

[Anonymous No.]

I do have a liking to the wonderful and cute totori
Please continue to post more of her

[Anonymous No.]

>>6870457

If it is Tales of Graces then this is good news though I'm curious why they never bothered to bring Vesperia over too. Either way I'm going to need to buy a PS3 pretty damn soon..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6870682

Pixiv is your friend.

[Anonymous No.]

They could have made a Ar Tonelico anime in the style of Ghibli/Fractale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6873352
You want Yamakan getting his hands on Ar tonelico?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6873358
Why not? He might be able to pull a Haruhi-esqe miracle on AT if he hasn't quit the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6873373

>Haruhi

No thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

pic is proof that AT is perfect for yamakan

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874513
>Yamakan
NO just NO

[Anonymous No.]

Croix! It's wonderful. I stayed up last night and thought of this amazing thing I thought we could make together!~

Yeah yeah, nice to see you too. And yes it sounds great, I could need something like that.

But of course, you can always count on me Croix!~
I wouldn't be able to bear to see you ever getting hurt, that's why I take so much effort in providing you with useful gear.

Yeah, that sounds great. But lets get started.

Yes~

Though, mind if she joins in?

"She", who is she?

Just a friend.

A friend you say? (Why have he been getting along with all these girls recently...)
We don't really need a third person, but if you insist I guess I can't deny it. (sob)

Great. Let's get started then!

(Wait a minute, what's she doing?! That isn't how it is supposed to be made)

This is fun croix! You should have introduced me to this place earlier. But who is she really?

Oh her. She runs this place now, she is just an old friend of mine.

Ah, good so she is a friend. But look at this croix!

(Wait! Just.. Just how did she manage to turn my idea of an armor into a pair of panties!)

That was great. Thanks for letting us use your workshop, we had a blast. Bye.

Ah... have a nice trip.
Be sure to come back!...

[Anonymous No.]

>my face when Saki was the most popular AT3 and the other whores weren't even mentioned

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874806

>Sincere friend zoned

Isn't it sad?

[Anonymous No.]

Is the gameplay in Totori better than Rorona? Finally got around to playing Rorona and it put me to sleep half the time. It's about as close as you can get to the Game About Nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874973
What's wrong? Can't enjoy being the little girl the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874935

>mfw Finnel and Tilia were played through more than Saki because she's a childish moeblob.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874935
I wanted Finnel to be the blue side. Blue side heroines in the first 2 games are better than the red counterparts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874973
Atelier is not for you then.

[Anonymous No.]

ATQ site is now up and running.

http://nisamerica.com/games/atq/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876463
>Partial Nudity
>Sexual Themes
I can have sex with the girls in AT games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876472
Of course not. ESRB hate cute girls, panties and stripping so it was given an M.

Why not give a specific date NISA?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876463
They've changed a few names.

[Sudo !Tohsaka8ks No.]

Can't wait for this, the first two AT games were some of my favorite on the PS2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876486
EU gets it March 25, 2011, so NA masterrace can probably expect it two weeks earlier than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876570
Damn, looks nice, now I'm considering preordering this.

As someone who has yet to play the first two AT games, would it be recommended that I play them in order?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876602
It's not a strict requirement. There are returning characters and some jokes that you'll miss but you'll be able to understand the main story without trouble.

Of course, playing the first 2 are highly recommended. Do it for Misha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876602
Definitely. Not only does the story tie in well, the games overall get better as they go on, with the 3rd being the best.

If you were to skip the first two, you'd beat the third and never feel like going back to finishing the first two, and miss out on a LOT of great music/story/characters/did I say music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876611
>>6876614
Much appreciated. How long would you say AT and AT2 are? I have habit of leaving games unfinished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876632
30 hours or so for 1, and 40 hours for 2, I think my gametime was.

Of course, I went extreme autism collect and craft every item and I followed the GameFAQs guide so your time may vary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876648
Also, I didn't go back and finish the other route in either, so add a whole bunch onto that, derp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876632
Roughly the same as >>6876648 , 30 and 40 hours respectively to finish it.

I noticed they removed the peeka from AT3 and I don't like it. Not that I own an PS3 anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874973
Atelier Totori's gameplay cycle flows much, much better than Rorona's. You'll rarely, if ever, find yourself micromanaging your time so efficiently you don't get anything done. (I found that really ironic when I played Rorona.) The interface is just also a lot more streamlined, so it's less of a hassle to do things.

On the story side of things, there is a real plot with some pretty emotional moments, but there are large swaths of the game where events are all comedic and character-driven. That's not bad though, as the characters (even Rorona) are a lot more interesting than the cast of Rorona. I found the humor in Totori to be a couple notches above Rorona.

And did I mention how much better the graphics look? You should play this game if for no other reason than to see Kishida Mel's artwork rendered into intricate 3D.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6876570

>Visual book

Oh god yes. I was expecting the generic soundtrack but this makes it worth it even more. I don't even have a PS3 yet and I'm pre-ordering it.

>>6876757

Peeka?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone remember that really huge special, specail pack the Japanese had at limited numbers?

The one with multiple music albums, art books as well as side material stuff and so on.
I didn't exactly expect us to get it though, and I am not even sure how well it sold over there, it was incredibly expensive after all, considering their prices on other stuff as well of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6878428

It was sadly always going to be Japanese only, I'm just glad we're actually getting the visual book since only the soundtrack was expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6879278
I hope this visual book doesn't end up like Rorona's. While it met my expectations with incredibly pretty Kishida Mel art, the book itself was oh so disappointingly limited.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6879503

Unless they're referring to the art book which is already scanned and available I think the visual book is the one that was slowly getting scanned by that one guy who keeps disappearing. I can't really confirm though since they've changed the cover, I really wish they'd give a preview of their visual book and calendar. Image related.

>>6876491

What have they changed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6879582

I just recalled an Anon who mailed NIS before, perhaps someone could do the same and get them to clarify what their version of the visual book is and to perhaps provide a preview of it and the calendar.

[Anonymous No.]

Obligatory translation request. Thank you as always.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6879582
That I can see, Arkia and Saki's mind guardian have had their names changed. I can understand why Bakudanman was changed, but Arkia is a bit debatable I suppose.

The visual book I got with AT3 is 44 pages total. I'm guessing ATQ is coming with a localized version of this book.

Title: Ar Tonelico III -Sekai Shuuen etcetcetc.- Official Visual Book
1 Title
2-3 Table of Contents
4-6 Setting, time line, map of tower
7-27 Characters
28 Arkia's history
29 General song and hymmnos mechanics
30-31 Vehicles
32-33 Location descriptions
34-37 Purge fanservice
38-39 Animation character designs
40-41 Monster and enemy concept art
42-43 Illust. and Harmonics Tilia lyrics
44 Credits

[Anonymous No.]

>>6881574
1
Sk: "This has been bugging Saki for a while, but I think Finnel-chan and Filament-chan have similar names that are easy to mix up!"
It could lead to misunderstandings!
Fn: Aah-
"Saki-chan's gone and said something strange again!"
Fl: "'Easy to mix up,' ...Only the first two letters are the same though."
2
Sl: "Well then, why not change they way you say the name a bit?"
Sk: "Like how?"
3
Sl: Tehehehe
"For instance, F*lament, or so~?"
Imaginary Fl: It's bitter....
4
Fl: "Don't play with peoples' names."
Sl: "Ahn~"
Sk: "No way! If it was F*lament I'd feel bad for Filament-chan!"
Fn: "Saki-chan! You don't have to say it out loud!"
It's provocative, okay?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6881728
>"No way! If it was F*lament I'd feel bad for Filament-chan!"
Whoops, change that to "No way! If it was F*lament Saki would feel bad for Filament-chan!"

Goddamnit Saki, speak a little less retardedly will you?
Inb4 she does it in ATQ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6881728
>>6881734
Is Saki >implying フェラメント?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6874513
Why are you even playing with such a shitty, blurry filter

[Anonymous No.]

>>6881728

>Imaginary Fl: It's bitter....

See image.

>>6881690

Oh right, I forgot about that visual book. I noticed that Clusternia was named Clustania, I'm not sure if this is the proper name of it but it'll probably bug me like Replekia was named Replakia.

[Anonymous No.]

I got an email from NISA telling me about the AT3 bundle that comes with the calendar, and I just know that nothing like this will get released in the UK, so I just want to ask if anyone knows if they ship outside of the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6882559

The NIS store does ship to the UK for an additional 10-15 dollars I believe since I was contemplating pre-ordering Neptunia. It's rather silly really since ordering a limited edition of a game and adding in the additional shipping fee it still costs about the same price as a standard new game released in the UK. I really should secure a PS3 first before I go ordering these things..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6882575
Thanks, just preordered, the entire thing+shipping came to about £54, which is very nice indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6882052
Probably. While Saki acts pure and childish she actually does know a thing or two about the world and mother nature.

Oh, and in regards to that translation change all Filament-chans to Filament-sans. It's been a while since I played AT3 and I just assumed everyone female is -chan to Saki.

[Anonymous No.]

I pre-ordered the premium box from NISA earlier today, very affordable even with international shipping and all.

Now to wait 2 months before I can finally play it... ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

I pre-ordered... 10 times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6877478
>Peeka
That AT item that removed all the random encounters. AT2 had it under another name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6879582
Besides what anon mentioned, Tokoshie is not Tokoshie anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6882794
Pop up Funboon, my most used item.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6882580

Just be warned that the calendar might not make it through since depictions of girls under 16 wearing revealing clothing is 'illegal' now in the UK even though I've never seen it enforced. I only say this because there's plenty of DFC in AT3 and a normalfag might assume the worst when they see Tilia or Finnel laying half naked for your enjoyment in calendar form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6883582
Fuck, is there any chance of me being arrested?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6884841
Anonymous confirmed for prison.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6884841

I doubt it'd come to that but the goods might not past through customs depending on how thorough they check, how they view such things and whether they actually know about said law since it was only implemented a while ago and as I said I've never personally seen it enforced. Better to have a heads up instead of getting a surprise when you get the package.

[Anonymous No.]

Filament is love.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>It's bitter...

[Anonymous No.]

dumb question, can I play AT-qoga when it releases without playing the first 2 games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6889124
No. If you do the AKHI-dan will come to your house, strip you down to your underwear, and make you parade around outside with a Nyamo mask. Well. Yes, you CAN since the plot stands enough on its own, but it also ties into the other games, so it will be more delicious if you've played them. Aside from things like "Oh, yeah, I remember when this character left to come here", there's the usual series in jokes - e.g. the candies with the Fu Manchu getup will actually have...... some context to them.

Ideally, play them in order... mainly because certain things in AT2 are nicer if you've gotten the true AT1 end, but AT1's battle system is fairly boring compared to AT2's.

Only now just picked up Rorona and accidentally spent all day playing it. Oh god, Cordelia and Astrid. If Totori is EVEN BETTER I can't wait for it to come out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6889124
Really, the main argument for playing the first two first is the fact that the games progressively get better, and once you play AT3 you wouldn't have the reason or drive to go back and finish the first two, therefore you would miss out on a whole ton of hilarious hijinks, great characters, and amazing music.

The first two games are definitely worth playing, so you should definitely play them first.

[Anonymous No.]

I played AT2 first, and I've been in the same place in AT1 for about 6 months because I just can't get into it. It's a shame.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6889124

Each game has different stories and characters but have recurring themes. You'll still be able to play the game without any issue but you wont really know what some people are talking about without knowing some of the back story. I'd highly recommend you do play the first two games though, they're surprisingly enjoyable and you can get about 30 hours of playtime out of them each which is pretty damn good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6889622

>Cordelia

You have good taste, sir.

[Anonymous No.]

So how about that relocalization of 2? I've been waiting on that before replaying the game, but there's not much time left now before 3 comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6889622
Have you got to the scene where Astrid, master troll does this and that to Rorona and Hom (female)? Possibly the best in the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6891579

Just play through 2, the retranslation probably wont be done for quite a while. The NIS translation is pretty bad but at least it's playable.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys got any tips or tricks for someone who just started playing Rorona?

in the middle of the first year currently

[Anonymous No.]

>>6892844
Conserve your time. For the most part, pure quantity of items is what you need, and variety isn't always a good thing (check the actual request for specific requirements)
As an example, making Cannons takes a huge investment in materials and time and is pointless when you can say, make bombs instead.

When you unlock the ability to have the various NPCs sell stuff you make, abuse it like crazy in getting them to sell the stuff you need to fill requests. If you want any of the decent endings, you will be running around like a nutcase filling in general and character requests.

Also, be very very VERY careful of some of the requests. Some of them are traps in that it's nigh impossible to meet the specific requirements, such as 60+ quality honey.

Also, with some of the general requests, if it sounds ludicrously easy and has a stupidly high reward, it probably is too good to be true. Those are Cordelia's requests and are needed for her ending. You will lose fame by doing those.

Control your urge to be a perfectionist. It's not necessary to get a perfect 10 stars for the missions. 8 is more than enough to unlock even the highest requirement ending.

When you get Hom, it's generally best to use him/her as a gather mule until they've skilled up. Even if you can't use the stuff they gather or they're crap in quality, you can still sell 'em for some extra cash.

Oh yes, not sure if it applies for the male Hom, there's an event where Rorona finds out why Astrid has been pestering her to call her 'oneesama'

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

Such a shame there not much Trinity Universe art, the character really look awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get rid of the boxes around the faces and the text?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6892899
Thanks for the response.

By the way on this part
>Control your urge to be a perfectionist. It's not necessary to get a perfect 10 stars for the missions.

I notice there are 3 separate columns for stars, the big yellow stars (overall performance?) is what you're referring to right? Because there's also quality of turn ins and another one I can't think of right now.

Also another question, is 100 the maximum amount of trust/friendship levels? It seems like the stats go up really easily because I'm already at 25 trust for the castle requests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6893463

100 is the max.

the Orange stars for kingdom requests just show roughly where your small gold stars are coming from, you only need the gold ones.

[Anonymous No.]

ゴーストモード

Ar Tonelico + Gust Thread
Reposted links all day erry

[Anonymous No.]

I'm playing AT2 for the first time. I'm at Phase 2 Luca's Path now.

Please guys, tell me the game is going to get better. Phase 1 was mostly enjoyable, but this whole Infelsphere drama shit is just terrible. "BAAWWW WOE IS ME YOU DONT UNDESTAND ANYTHING ABOUT MY LIFE BOO-HOO". For fuck's sake.

Was Cloche's path similar on this part? For now I'll just deal with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6894339
I dont remember Cloche being this whiny, but I fucking hate Luca anyways. Played the game for Jakuri and was satisfied in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6842491
I'm interested in this as well, do you know the method and tools to extract the audio files? Also, if you're planning on doing it, be sure to make a post about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6894495

>I dont remember Cloche being this whiny

I commend you for somehow getting through a large major part of the game without remembering all of the emotional whining that was involved from a certain character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6894339
This is how girls are like. All of them except Jakuri are whinny. Jakuri is a little... special.

[Anonymous No.]

Cloche at least had a good reason to whine, what with the torture through her childhood every time she spoke up. Luca was just a bitchy little cunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6896527
I still wondered if Luca got any better and if I would actually feel sorry for her, but it seems not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6896520

>This is how girls are like.

And this is why I dislike seeing it in my video games, fucking bitches and whores.

[Anonymous No.]

I, for one, loved Luca, Cloche, and Jacqli just the same. I can't hate them at all.

Cocona, on the other hand, MY VERY OWN WAIFU DO NOT STEAL

[Anonymous No.]

Please don't laugh at me for asking this, as I am entirely new to this scene and only recently bought a PS3, but out of all the Gust and NIS games, what probably has the most value for its gameplay? I was looking at AT2's gameplay, and while it looked amazing, it was mentioned that you aren't really given any freedom of advancement (i.e. no dungeon crawling or grinding). I'm aware that a lot of these are basically more like VN's than they are RPG's, but as long as the game itself is fun I don't mind that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900246
I can't talk about 3, but the gameplay and side events from AT2 are enjoyable and bring a challenge until you start getting the right timings for the guard system, after that, it's a breeze, but it doesn't stop being enjoyable due to the setting, story, characters and the music.

If you end up enjoying the setting like most of us did, give a try to the first title. It's a pretty basic and easy RPG, but the other elements make up for it, and if you become another Jakuri fan, you'll learn more about her on the first game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900246
For GUST, Totorin. Mana Khemia is also pretty good if you like a bit more classically styled RPGs.
Ar Tonelico, as they say, is not really about the gameplay. Ar Tonelico II does have the best gameplay in the series though. There is some dungeon crawling (it's fairly linear though), and you can grind (it's only necessary if you don't utilize items/Dualstall/Girl Power). There are some satisfyingly challenging boss battles in the game.
AT3's battle system just wasn't as fun, although it really is as hard as hell on Hard Mode. The other aspects of the game make up for it, however.

I haven't really played any games developed by NIS though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900246
If you're looking to get a lot of hours for your dosh then you should give Disgaea a look. I used to spend hours in that fucking item world, trying to make my equipment better, then my save corrupted and I stopped playing.

Mana Khemia is also a fun game, the battle turn system is a bit like FFX, but better, and it has amusing characters such as Flay and Anna.

[Anonymous No.]

What do we have here...
http://www.justpushstart.com/2011/01/31/first-ten-minutes-ar-tonelico-qoga-knell-of-ciel/

Dem English voices...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900980
The battles get a bit more exciting than the one in that video, right? Do you get skills or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900980

I'm not sure what the original dialogue is like as I've yet to play AT3 but my initial impression is that they've certainly put their effort in to localise the translation..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6901024
I haven't played the jp version, but from what I've seen, the fighters get a few different attacks and an EX attack (or a special attack if you're unfimilar with the term).
And of course there's the song magic stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

wa sey ra

[Anonymous No.]

Infel is love. Nenesha is a dirty whore.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Preordered AT3 with the calender and Neptune RPG like fist of the north star. Can't wait to play 'em.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6901024

It's the first fight of the game so yes, it gets better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6901990
I loved Infel's extra scenario. It was nice to see her getting some attention on a side story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6900980
I'd forgotten that they wasted an Akiko Shikata song on EXEC_CUTYPUMP, now I am sad again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6902830
It's not GUST's fault you can't accept Mute's pure feelings!

While it's unusual that there were only two Shikata songs (and one was the OTHER instance of GUST trolling their fanbase into delicious tears of rage but was actually a really nice song, just not zOMG EPIC), AT3 has its share of great Hymmnos.

Let's see, from side blue...
* EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/.: god fucking damn. Any other Shikata songs like this in the game and my head would have exploded
* EXEC_METEMPSYCHOSIS/.: what can I say, I'm a sucker for chants and digderidoos
* EXEC_EP=NOVA/.: I don't really like Saki all that much, but this is just such a fun song and also CHOU☆RON☆GU that I don't see why people hate it so much. Was ki ra kyakkya kyakkya yor en mea en kyakkya kyakkya!

I really like COSMOFLIPS and REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL, but they just don't have quite the same oomph for some reason, which means I'll probably just grow into them.

From side Red:
* ViBaaCi mJiiRa: has Ar Ciela chants and nice instrumentation going for it. A~fe~ze~ri~a~
* chmod b111000000/n: nice, slow, menacing boss theme. And Her Highness has that nasal miko singing thing going on sometimes.
* METHOD_HYMMELI/.: I have a fever, and that fever can only be cured by more drums and Pastalie.

Z is quite passable if generic J-popish, I rather like Xaaaci on the balance (...dople. @#R) &P*U@<$*P&@#(L& YP@"U*#& YFPZ$#*> UJP>"(& UKJ"#$ P*LUJC*"#)$*(&F# U(J&G*# "). FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE is nice, but I don't usually listen to a lot of downtempo music like that these days so I'm usually distracted by the other songs.

It seems like there's an awful lot of in-game character and insert songs this time around. Also, that theme in Glow/Grow is too similar to the Dear Friends motif from Final Fantasy. Every time I hear it, I'm like "oh, I just beat Zeromu... wait."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6902970
I like EP=NOVA for the quick chanting and CHOU☆RON☆GU. CUTYPUMP sits well with me, hell most, if not all Hymmnos sounds great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6902830

Arphage makes up for it at least but I'm also saddened by having some of her tracks 'wasted'. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6902127

Extra scenario? Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6905089
I meant those flashes that were translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6905532

Oh, you had me worried that I'd need to redownload the game since I thought I had forgotten something. The flash cosmospheres are definately a nice touch and I'm glad to see those 2-3 Anon's found a way to get them translated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6905532
>>6906548
Link to these flashes please, this is news to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6906883
http://ar-ciel.org/uploads/miz/tks/2avs/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6907039

If I were to say that Infel is love would I be promoting genocide?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6908363
You would. The same thing can be said about Mule, and I also love her, so don't worry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6908907

But she redeems herself at the end of the first game at which point you begin to love her and she becomes dere with humans. Infel however doesn't redeem herself until the last moments of the game when you've successfully stopped her sublimating the entire planet.. so you've basically fallen in love with her whilst she's genocidal.

[Anonymous No.]

new stuff

[Anonymous No.]

wall

[Anonymous No.]

anyone know what this is about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6909300
Maybe, maybe not. I'm not >>6908363, but... I didn't have much of an opinion on my first playthrough (except at her puns). Then I started reading the Toukouspheres (more puns). Then I read more about her in the settei book, and read the light novel. Nenesha mentions to some random at some point, "Oh, don't think I'm all nice. That would cause problems for all of us." I haven't done Luca's route yet, though, but is Nenesha perhaps a bitch in later levels? That would be kind of delicious. Then I read Flash Cosmosphere Infel. The latter two really endeared her to me.

So, the impression I have of her now is something like this. She's amazingly intelligent, and while she'd much prefer to be off doing her own thing and doesn't deal with random strangers well at all, she's not *completely* socially inept. She's unfailingly logical, but is hardly a mindless robot. Nenesha is very important to her, but it's not one of those stupid "omg i cant be without you for i miniiittttteee" relationships. She feels very strongly about what's important to her - perhaps too much. After all, the reason she starts planning Sublimation is because she was so shocked by the way the people of Meta Falss turned their backs on her, resulting in the failure of their prized Metafalica plan and Nenesha's death, that she concluded that the people would never be able to open their hearts enough to attain Metafalica and decided to make a world where no-one would hurt each other anymore. But, even after all that, she was willing to let Cloche and Luca try to create Metafalica because she thought Cloche had a chance of doing it. Obviously I can't say her intentions are entirely pure due to the enormous grudge she carries, and unfortunately I can't really articulate exactly why I like her so much, but the supplemental materials really helped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6910415

Tilia has never looked so fappable.

>>6910407

I really wish they'd go back and re-do the character portraits, the new style looks so much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839229
Could I get some tech support on getting the games to work?
I get: (pxInvokeActionEvent) CDVD plugin failed to open. Your computer may have insufficient resources, or incompatible hardware/drivers.(thread:EE Core)
Whenever I to start Ar Tonelico Melody of Elemia

[Anonymous No.]

>>6910715
Nenesha's like a spoiled child. She doesn't like to be disturbed and sleeps in the Cosmosphere. Sometimes she shoots lasers at Croix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6911697

When it's put into simple terms like this she sounds incredibly moe..

>>6911251

2 seconds with Google points to:

http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-CDVD-plugin-failed-to-open--15857

Not sure if it'll help but I guess it's worth a try.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you, year of the rabbit. Thank you for providing Shurelia images. ♥

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having a problem with Ar Tonelico 2. In the beginning it says that Rakshek has been added to the world map...but it hasn't been added. Anyone have an explanation for this "game stopping before it begins" bug?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6913529

I couldn't help you at all, but this hapened to me too, I walked about for about half a hour before deciding It was impossible to progress.

though, I thought it was just me being retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6913529
Scratch that, I'm a freaking idiot. I didn't have the d-pad set on my controller. I guess I got used to Ar Tonelico 1 being able to be played without a d-pad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6913539
Just figured it out, you have to use the d-pad on the world map, not the analog sticks.

[Anonymous No.]

Why these boxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6914721
Goodness that aspect ratio.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6914721

Fix your resolution for your graphics plugin, that resolution is fucking horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

while this bug is minor, anyway to fix it ?

also, sometimes when I go near a chest, I fall down, got teleported back up though, but is it a known bugs?

[Anonymous No.]

[Yｏur ｆavｏrite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎ ßängkok No.]

>>6916437
disable hardware acceleration

[Anonymous No.]

>>6916437

I had the chest bug but only when I moved into it, it didn't break anything and the item was still easy to get so I don't think it's got a high priority if it is a bug.

[Ayashiro !Hime2512LA No.]

>>6916437
I get this for any GUST game. Don't walk into the chest, instead stop once you're in range.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6915038
>>6915475
Hah

>>6916451
When I did that it ran like shit, but using the native resolution check box did the trick for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6917967
For me, the native resolution fixed some but broke others slightly.

[Anonymous No.]

on the third time playing through this game, and dang it, I want an ending for cynthia ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

also, for some reason I can't touch the hardware accleration (it's grayed out) and the native resolution check doesn't fix much (pic related) but it's not much trouble anyway so I guess it's fine

also, is Luca route worth playing ?

[Anonymous No.]

forgot to put pic on

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918857

It pains me to see her friend zoned every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6918870
>Luca route worth playing
Worth playing it for her song magic and final Cosmosphere. The rest of the levels are pretty crazy. Or if you like Nenesha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6919993

>her song magic

To be fair it's not like song magic means much in AT2 when normal stuff gets nuked down by the melee anyway and bosses get nuked down with Replekia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6921624
Replekia really is too powerful, I basically instant nuked every tough fight in the game with a Replekia charged Ar Tonelico spell. At least I didn't have to use that whore Luca in battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6921694

The funny thing is that it just keeps getting more powerful as you cure more IPD's. I only had 40 or so at the end of my run and the song burst rate was utterly ridiculous..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6921624
I didn't mean it that way, her song magic are... interesting so to say. Not particularly strong or spectacular, but quirky and odd. And murderous.

[Anonymous No.]

am i alone being disapointed by the calendar ? ( AT 3 collector )

i mean +10$ for a calendar ... i dunno i'm not happy ( i'd rather stay with the audio cd and the artbook

[Anonymous No.]

>>6922444
Hey, buddy, Calenders are expensive.
Many sponsor foreign aid efforts so if you're buying retail a pin-up of that size will typically cost upwards of $20. I've seen some sell for $30.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6921694
Will something bad happen to you if you miss even a single chance to propagate your trolling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6921694
Lady Momoyo ended up becoming my favourite spell to use because of how silly fun it was.

Friendcircle declaration is a devastating attack, after all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6922444

10 dollars is pretty cheap for a calendar and unless you've seen a preview of it I don't see how you can say it's a waste but if you really don't want it then just get the normal LE with the visual book and the soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6922444
Enjoy watching us post pictures of the limited edition calendar we've all preordered and getting all hot and bothered that you missed out on deliciously naughty art.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it normal for CM3DExtractor to crash during repacking? Everything went well on the second try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6924550

I think you may have the wrong thread.

[Anonymous No.]

So uhh is it just temporary or Jacqli is ridiculously powerful? Holy fuck the 1st level spells are already ripping everything in pieces.

[Anomynous No.]

>>6925595
She's overpowered all the way through.
Cloche has Replekia to break the game.
Luca... actually doesn't have anything that overpowered.

Cloche/Jacqli is just broken as all hell though. Replakia with Phantasmagoria just annihilates everything in your path.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6925916
Luca has that one flag guy song magic that makes you do double normal damage and increased defence iirc.

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6925926
Yeah, but it's either the Atk or the Def boost and it switches each round (iirc).
But yeah, it's not like you need that. By the time your vanguards would die, you've wiped the Tower completely or charged a Replekia'd song so much, you'd annihilate what's left of Ar Ciel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6925595
You do know her backstory, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6839229
Hi /jp/!
I am playing Ar Tonelico 1 and I completed the first phase. I cannot pick who I want to go with. Who is the better girl? Aurica or Misha?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6926972
I went with Aurica and never regretted a single moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6926972

Go with whoever you like more.

Aurica is better story and dungeons wise and the shortcut doors in the Crescent Chronicle remain open, but be prepared to see her put herself down constantly. Misha has Krusche (has a healing skill + DFC) and Jack (second strongest party member) and a change in her later would be less sudden, but she doesn't have any unique dungeons (and you have to go through a long trek in the Tower) and for some reason the shortcut doors in the Crescent Chronicle remain closed.

Each path has their own major boss as well. The other boss will seemingly mysteriously disappear, but it's presumed the other group defeats them.

I would go with Aurica first because I think she has better dungeons and the story during her path seems better/more to do with the main plot. But it really comes down to which girl you like more, especially since once you choose one you won't gain access to the other for a long time and you're locked on the chosen girl's ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6926972

Honestly they're both nice characters and their routes are both great, just go with whoever you enjoy the most. I personally did Misha first.

[Anonymous No.]

There's been so little Totori images on Pixiv lately, I thought it was quite popular in Japan? ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6930205
Don't worry, the next Atelier game is another Totori game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6930257

Really? This pleases me greatly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6926972
I went with Misha because she has a superior PAJA hymmnos. FUCK YES IT'S LIKE I'M REALLY AT THE FINAL BOSS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6930257
Where did you hear this?

[Anonymous No.]

I love just about everything about Ar tonelico - the world, the girls, the songs, diving and cosmospheres, synthesis, easy battles and just the right amount of fanservice. It's... beautiful. But it could have been so much more. I'm sad it's over.
AT reminds me of Xenogears for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing the Ar Tonelico games has given me a new appreciation for Gust. I had only played Aterlier Rorona previously, but now I'm powering through the AT series and after that I plan to play at least 1 Atelier Iris game if there is time before Hyperdimension Neptunia comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6932775

So much more? In what way? The only real thing to improve on would have been the combat system in each of the games but that's hardly the main focus of them.

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6933571
I don't really think he's talking about this, but my interpretation would be that, now that it's supposedly over with AT3, they could've made so much more. Tsuchiya said he'd love to do more AT stuff though, so we might see it again.

That feel when you'll never get a game centered about Mir causing the fall of the Right Wing of Horus. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6933925
Maybe we'll get an OVA of it.
With actual animation by good studio.
I WOULD THROW AWAY ALL OF MY MONEY FOR THIS, JAPAN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6933925
That would be glorious!

[Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. No.]

>>6933969
It's nice to have dreams, isn't it? Just sucks when they get utterly destroyed. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6934034
Don't give up, bro! We have to keep believing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6934066

It's hard to believe in something that you know will never come true.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a term for what happens at the end of every phase in Ar Tonelico 1? Like, you get hyped up that you will be facing a really tough opponent and you finally defeat it only to find out that something terrible is going to happen next.
What other games does this?

The only ones I know of are Okami and Little King's Story

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>>6936722
Even though I knew that Shurelia would get better, the end of Phase 2 hit me pretty hard.

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>>6936722
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheManBehindTheMan
Is this what you're looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

Just found out about this, so I apologize if it's old news.

Atelier Series: Official Chronicle artbook is apparently going to be published in English in April.

[Ruby !!iPJbBu5S79g No.]

>>6937590

>TvTropes

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>>6937590

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotSoFastBucko

I think this might be closer to what he wants.

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>>6937639

Wow, even the west realizes how very, very pretty the Atelier art style is.

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>>6937685
There goes the rest of your day.

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>>6937775
Fortunately it only takes a page or two before the writing style makes me want to slit my own throat and I close it.

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>>6937807
This. Especially on animu-related pages.

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>>6937811
I dunno, I learn to ignore it after a while.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, I just finished the true ending of Trinity Universe. I want to get assasinated by Mizuki. ;_;
>get free dlc rings, kill lantern dragon at level 50
>use point shop bug to buy shit in 2nd playthrough, kill Ashura at level 30
Also, OH GOD. Can't get cosmolagoon out of my head. Why is the OST so good?

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>>6937807
>>6937811
>>6937823

I don't get it, what particular writing style makes you guys mad? There's nothing in particular that I've noticed in anime-related pages.

The only thing that slightly annoys me is when they don't say the name of the source (name of game, show, etc.), only the character's name with the character's name linking to source, as if they expect everyone to know who that character is.

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>>6937843

Mizuki was one of my favorite characters in the game, although she wasn't part of my "Main Team" (Kanata, Tsubaki, Recit, Miyu). It probably helps that she's voiced by Laura Bailey. (Even though the English VA aren't listed, I figured out who it was when she said "Shiny!" in battle.)

As for true end, I can't help but be disappointed. Ashura was so fucking overpowered for a story boss it ain't funny. The normal final bosses are strong, too, but nothing some standard leveling and buying some Meteorites won't fix. Standard JRPG fare there. But Ashura... goddamn. That was ridiculous. Using the Covert Shop exploit was pretty much the only way I could beat her without doing massive amount of grinding (I was 110+ when I first fought her and got destroyed, went back to her at 160~ and still got stomped) and wasting time I could have been using playing other games.

I thought I would feel better after beating her, thinking I'm in for a heartwarming end of some sort. Nope. The ending is shorter than even the normal/good ends, and there's no post-credits scene. I would have really liked to have seen how the gang is doing after that battle. How disappointing. As much as I hated Cross Edge, at least that game's true end was a little more satisfying.

[Anonymous No.]

I was curious about the sales numbers of Rorona so I looked them up. http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/36069/atelier-rorona-alchemist-of-arland/.. If that link is credible, that means Rorona sold more copies in North America than it did in Japan by around 20,000 copies. That's nuts.

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>>6938610
If that's true, that's quite the surprise. Perhaps I'm just overestimating it's popularity in Japan, but I wouldn't expect even the power of weabooism to achieve that.

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>>6938610

I hope VGChartz is accurate just this one time, because that's amazing. Either the Atelier fanbase is bigger in America than I thought or NISA did some good marketing tactics, with the premium edition and all that jazz.

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>>6938696

It's because everyone secretly wants to be the little girl.

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>>6938696
I'd like to think the LE that GS had available helped a bit. Usually those are limited to Rosenqueen's site. It's the first time I actually preferred buying a NISA game at GS.

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>>6937590
>>6937739
Oh my god. Oh my god. I expected the end of Phase 2 to be like Phase 1 but they actually pulled the good old fake credits thing and even took it to the next level by having everyone say goodbye to you. then all of a sudden, you choose the right choice and BAM! you see shurelia without her armor followed by "PHASE 2 CLEARED... PHASE 3 START

Also, level 9 Hama is just so adorable
"And you're all nervous.
You get nervous around me. Are you... a pedophile? ...You're so stupid."

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>>6941148

Hama is always adorable, no exceptions.

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>>6941200
True that. She makes me want to start imagining that everytime I play my ocarina, I'm actually kissing her. It would be obscene to think like that though

[Anonymous No.]

I just finished AT2. Played through the Cloche/Mir route and ended up doing the Mir ending. I didn't want to re-play the final boss again 2 more times and then go back and replay 30 hours for the Luca route so I just watched the other endings on youtube.

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>>6942026

And nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.]

I just started Ar Tonelico 2. Croix sounds younger than I thought he would be. All the screencaps of him showed him serious I thought he would have a deeper voice. Oh well, he sounds fine.

Had my first tutorial battle. This is where I noticed a problem. Weird black lines appearing over Croix (and Cloche in an earlier cutscene). In Ar Tonelico 1 I was able to ignore it because it was just a single black line somewhere on a character's body in battle. But here it was ALL OVER Croix's body. That's something that can't easily be ignored.

It seems if I switch over to DirectX3D Software mode instead of Hardware mode (I'm using the plugins that came with the AT Made Easy download, by the way) it gets rid of the lines. Unfortunately, it slows down the game into a crawl.

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Is Ar tonelico 1 laggy for everyone? Does that get fixed if you play it on an emulator? What about Ar Tonelico 2?

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>>6942026
I thought luca's route was going to be awesome when I first started. Boy was I wrong.

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I keep reading these threads, and feeling bad for all of you unfortunate folks who don't have modded PS2's to play the AT's with.

I can't even imagine playing AT2 with an emulator, I imagine it must be difficult.

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>>6943525
>I can't even imagine playing AT2 with an emulator, I imagine it must be difficult.
It's the same, however AT2 lags on the PS2. I'm looking at you, The Big Wave.

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>>6943254

By the way, the graphics plugin I currently have installed is

GSdx 3693 (MSVC 15.00, SSE2) 0.1.16 [gsdx-sse2-r3878]


Also, bump limit is closing in.

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>>6943525
I had very few issues aside from the world map lagging a little bit. Everyone seems to have different experiences getting it to run though.

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>>6943561
The only experiences I had with lag was Big Wave and Raki's big laser move, it usually froze from the first hit to the last hit, which was a bit annoying, but it did shit damage so I didn't really mind. I had dat Guard++++ to make up for it anyway.

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>>6943254
>>6943575

Anyone?

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>>6944682

Did you try using the other graphics plugin? I'm not sure if it's included in the lazy pack but my emulator ran perfectly with the ZeroGS plugin. And if it's crawling try hit F5 and it should change your interlacing settings (unless I'm thinking of another plugin) which should increase FPS a little. Alternatively you could ask in the next thread if/when it's made since we hit 300 posts.

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>>6945067

Yeah it came with ZeroGS. It DOES solve the lines problem. But it came with other problems. Such as when I load from a save state, it causes the screen to go black and glitchy looking (I save stated at the beginning of the first tutorial battle, by the way); it only returns to normal once Croix or the enemy started attacking, i.e. when it stopped explaining things. But it doesn't show the name of the attack, it's blank.

I don't know whether starting from the title screen instead of the save state would solve this problem, I didn't feel like going through that long intro again.

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>>6945166

Well I never used save states so I can't really comment on that, I just used the standard save/load option present in the game and all worked fine for me.

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>>6945190

Hm, so I guess I'll just avoid loading save states then. Not that I ever really used them much in AT1 (I used the standard in-game saves); I think I only really needed a save state for right at the end of AT1, when you choose between Aurica/Misha and Shurelia.

Almighty then. Until the black lines issue is resolved (or I learn to tolerate them) I guess I'll use ZeroGS for the time being. Thanks.

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>>6945223

Would you mind posting a picture of these black lines? I'm curious to see what it looks like as I had something similar using another plugin but it really wasn't all that bad. Spoiler for last boss fight (not that you can see much..) but the black lines are noticeable on some on of the sprites like Jakuri.

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>>6945268

The game is on another computer which I can't access to for the moment, I'll try to get a shot later today.

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>>6945295

I'm not sure if the thread will still be alive by then so keep an eye out for the next one and post it there if you wouldn't mind since I'm rather curious to see the issue.

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>>6945268
>>6945322

I'm not sure when new thread would be made, so I decided to whip these up right quick just in case. If thread dies, I'll just repost them whenever the new thread is made.

Oh, I'm using 0.9.7 (r3878), the emu that came with the AT Made Easy pack IIRC.

First is when I'm using GSDX (>>6943575). For the most part the game runs pretty fine with this graphic plugin, it's just the black lines thing as shown here.

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>>6945877

Now I switch to ZeroGS. I made a save state at the beginning of the tutorial battle so I could more easily check for a black lines fix if any.

This is how it looks when I first load it up. The text didn't even appear at first until I pressed X to advance the text.

Oh yeah, there's one other thing that ZeroGS does I forgot to mention -- for some reason if I go full screen then try to get out of full screen I'm stuck in a blank screen. The only way to get out is to Ctrl+Alt+Del and then select Task Manager. Not sure what's the deal, possibly an error I'm not seeing. Windows mode seems fine but I'd rather play in full screen.

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>>6945889

Lastly, after I've advanced the text and the attack begins, the picture returns. However, this randomly happens: The attack name is blank. (Random as in sometimes it isn't blank and sometimes it is.)

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I have some annoying issue too. The game has weird flickering now and then, the screen goes black for half a second and then it goes back to normal. While not critical it's getting on my nerves and I'd love to solve it. It doesn't seem to be related to speedhacks as it happens with them off too, must be a GSDx problem because it was gone when I tried ZeroGS (which is a huge piece of shit so that's not a real solution).

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>>6945877

Well if you compare sprites mine is exactly the same in >>6945268 but for the duration of that fight it never really bothered me. I believe there's a fix though as I saw this mentioned before, try asking in the next thread.

>>6945889
>>6945895

Hmm, I never had these issues personally so I can't really say what's going on. Not using save states could prevent the first issue and staying in full screen could prevent the second but that's rather inconvenient since I know I personally liked to browse while playing.

>>6946185

Never had this issue either, perhaps try updating your graphics driver and the graphics plugin and seeing if that helps?

[Anonymous No.]

no scans for mana khemia 1 & 2 artbook yet?
i need it for cosplay ;_;

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>>6946516
Is there delicious Pamela artwork on them?

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>>6946516
the artbook probably didn't have what you are looking like the detail on the back of the clothes

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Thread died. Oh well.

I'll just use GSDX for the time being and just lrn2tolerate the black lines, since ZeroGS causes me more problems than it does fixing them. Thanks for the help (no sarcasm intended).

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Did anyone else preorder AT3 with the calender?

I'm excited; I'll be able to mark down appointments and important dates (like "Mom's b-day in November") under a picture of Tilia's ass or something.

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>>6946582,1

Again I'm sorry I can't help but I do recall it being mentioned in a past thread. As I said you could try asking in the next thread (if another is made) or try looking around the previous threads though that may take some time..

>>6946582,2

I purchased AT3 (Calendar version), Neptunia, Valkyria Chronicles, Tales of Graces f, Eternal Sonata, Star Ocean 4 International, Rorona and a brand new PS3 today.

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>>6946582,3
Say goodbye to the rest of 2011, dudebro.

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>6946582,3
It must be nice to have that kind of cash.

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>>6946582,5

I'm a NEET with everything I could possibly want (Car, top end PC etc.) so the money I leech from the government is just collecting in my bank account doing absolutely nothing so I figured I might as well put it to good use.

>>6946582,4

I'm prepared for this, especially with Graces and Totori soon to come. Oh god do I want my Totorin. ;_;

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Oh brother. Got to the world map for the first time in AT2 and the bottom half of the world map is all wonky. Like the first half displays correctly, but the bottom half is the sky in the background (instead of the floating plates surrounding the tower, or the rest of the land, etc.), things like that.

I read in a few previous threads that a "Gust Fix" is supposed to fix it, but apparently it either didn't or this particular PCSX2 I have didn't come with it (it's the 0.9.7 r3878). If it messes up the world map background, it might mess up Cosmosphere backgrounds too which would be not-good.

Uggggh. This is so frustrating! Especially when Ar Tonelico 1 ran almost perfectly with the same settings.

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>>6946582,7

Why would the 3D world map affect the 2D cosmosphere backgrounds? I agree with your last statement though, AT1 ran perfectly fine for me on GSdx but it had bugged textures and such in AT2 so I had to resort to ZeroGS (which thankfully worked fine for me) though I preferred GSdx for saving screenshots.

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>>6946582,7
i'm also having the same problem.
has anyone solved this problem?

[Anonymous No.]

all you have to do is set gsdx to Software. works perfectly for me

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>>6946582,10

Ah, but then the game goes really slow.

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>6946582,11
You could always just grab a PS2 for cheap, softmod the memory card and viola.

[Anonymous No.]

Question on AT2:

Do main story cutscenes/dialouge change if you "confess" to a heroine in the Cosmosphere? Like, say, in the main story if you haven't confessed to anyone and aren't locked into anyone's ending, everyone speaks more neutral towards you. But if you confess to, say, Cloche, then during the main game she acts more dere to you in the dialouge.

Does that happen?

[Sakura !RAILgUnr8s No.]

>>6946582,13
I'm not sure how AT2 works, but that kinda stuff happens in AT3.

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>>6946582,11
I guess it requires a good CPU to run nicely on software mode.

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>>6946582,13

Main story segments are generally geared towards whichever route you pick (Luca/Cloche) but that doesn't really make much of an effect. If you go past level 5 (I think?) for a girl then you'll get night time events with the other girls making comments and feeling generally distant however the story stays neutral... Or at least this is how I believe it worked since I didn't dive past level 5 until just before the last boss.

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>>6946582,16

I see. Great, now I'm even more tempted to go pass Level 5 early in the game. If I don't go pass Level 5 before the last boss, I can have off play time by getting three endings at once. But if I do pass Level 5 the moment I get a chance, I won't miss out on all those talk Croix-girl topics, the girl-girl topics, I won't have to wait so long to see the rest of a Cosmosphere, and I get more spells.

This is a tough decision. At least with Ar Tonelico 1 I only had to worry about two playthroughs, the second of which I could skip Phase 1 entirely by saving at the right place (well, sorta, actually I saved right before you decide who to insert that certain crystal to which changes the song that plays in the next boss fight and a CG you see).

Also, we so need a new thread. If one isn't started by the time I return later today, I guess I'll try and start one myself.

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>>6946582,17
I don't think night topics expire though, so you can go past level 5 before the last boss and read all the talks after that. Sure, it feels "rushed", but I don't think you'd miss anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Since nobody else bothered to the new thread is at >>6954679.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>6937639
>>Atelier Series: Official Chronicle ART BOOK

Thanks for mentioning this. Just preordered it, the Valkyria Chronicles, and the Taka Tony books at the speed of light.

http://www.amazon.com/Atelier-Official-Chronicle-Gust/dp/1926778200/

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>>6946582,20

Urgh, the book is £21 on Amazon for me. Oh well, it's worth it for the delicious art.