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Miku Doll Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:00:23 2011 No.6810158 [Reply] [Original]

Apparently, it 404'd.

To reply to the gentleman's answer to my question:
So basically... you want an attractive girl, who's not a total moron and shares interests with you, and who is willing to satisfy most of your sexual desires without complaining? So theoretically, if a girl came along who could do all those things you would pick her over the doll?

Can other anon's sympathize with the above sentiment? Is there a general consensus here?

I want to know what it takes to get a nice nerdy guy... That's all I really want. :(

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:04:23 2011 No.6810163 Lose a dimension and you might have a chance. Also, stop shitting up the board, that's a straight turn-off.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:05:23 2011 No.6810165

I just want to live alone in peace and pursue my hobbies. It's the world shoving this belief down my throat that I "need someone". I'm not depressed I'm content with my life, but really The normals make it hard for me.

I am aware that some anons get lonely and need someone to share their experiences with, but my brain wasn't wired to do that.

That's my opinion. Boring to a normal person, great to me though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:11:23 2011 No.6810178 NO JUST NO GET OUT YOU FUCKING WHOREBAG

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:13:23 2011 No.6810185 File: 66 KB, 288x449, 1290329283992.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810165 Miku Doll Anon is alpha as fuck confirmed. He doesn't need people to hold him back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:16:23 2011 No.6810193 >>6810185 I'm not alpha bro, I'm omega.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:18:23 2011 No.6810198

>>6810165
Dat you, Mr. Guy?

I kind of wish I could do that too... social life is very tiring, and I don't care much for it. I do it mainly to keep up appearances and keep my parents off my case.

But unfortunately, they don't make very cute dolls for girls. :\ Yes, I jelly.

Thank you for sharing though, I think a I learned a lot. And at least you're civil unlike some of the other anons.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:24:23 2011 No.6810211
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>I want to know what it takes to get a nice nerdy guy... That's all I really want. :(
Most are desperate enough that it's impossible to have trouble with that. You probably never noticed them. I bet all of /jp/ would have been easy enough if you got them young enough. Try somewhere else, though. None of us want to play the game any more.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:25:23 2011 No.6810213

Why the hell would you search for a cute nerdy guy here? We're all basically tsundere males who would make you go through all kinds of trouble in order to get accepted, and even if you manage to do it, it wouldn't be that rewarding. You're better off just going for a normalfag who likes some nerdy things.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:37:23 2011 No.6810240

>>6810213
Not really searching for one here (I already know you guys are hikkikomori to the point of no return.) but just wondering what's up with that kind of thing, you know?

Yeah, about that whole normal guy thing. That's probably not going to happen.

Is it really a bad thing that I'm curious about stuff?

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:37:23 2011 No.6810242

Relationshits are suffocating as hell. I like to walk around in my apartment, scratch my ass, sing out loud, walk around butt naked. I have to worry about impressions in a relationship, have to worry about investing all my time and energy, then getting cheated on. Have to worry about all this shit.

Fuck that. I hate being lonely but I'll tolerate it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:38:23 2011 No.6810245 >>6810242 My thoughts exactly.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:43:23 2011 No.6810255

>>6810240
Essentially, courting is a game rigged in favour of aggressive, predatory people. I couldn't take it easy like that, agonised over it during my adolescence, and then realised that I don't have to do stupid things to satisfy people's expectations. I'm sure there are a lot more with similar experiences. Path of least resistance. Ignore trolls and women until they leave confused.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:46:23 2011 No.6810264 >>6810255 That's a very logical way of putting it, it does seem true as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:48:23 2011 No.6810271 >>6810240 You're the one bringing up dating a nerdy guy as if we could help you with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:52:23 2011 No.6810284 >>6810271 I can't still be interested in your insights anyways?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:54:23 2011 No.6810296 >>6810198 >>6810158 You missed /a/.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:54:23 2011 No.6810299

>>6810211
>>I want to know what it takes to get a nice nerdy guy... That's all I really want. :(
Ah, I know a girl that's like that. In first semester of college she went straight for the most outwardly nerdy guy.
What she didn't know or realize: Judging from his personality he is a retard, and the whole clique with him is frowned upon by almost everyone.

You might be okay with that, but the bottom line is: Don't overweight the "nerd" in comparison to the "nice".
That said, look for computer scientists. We are somewhat desperate, since there are almost no women around, and the probability of "meeting by chance" tends to zero.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 05:56:23 2011 No.6810301 >>6810240 What exactly are you asking here? Moreover what are you asking in the OP? What criteria a woman would have to meet to outdo a fictional character? I don't even... In my case, none.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:00:23 2011 No.6810317

I don't know what the last thread held but I don't think this is what /jp/ wants at all if they're anything like me. Dolls are better than girls because they're not real girls. I'm not interested in anyone who shares the same interests as me nor any companion whatsoever. I don't want someone who sates my sexual needs. I have no sexual needs. If you're still young and have sexual needs, what about when you get old?

You have to imagine if you'd like someone even if you didn't share the same interests. If you wouldn't like them, the fact that you share the same interests isn't a strong enough point to befriend anyone.

When you're old, what if your sexual vitality fades and your hobbies change? If you should have a 'waifu' then she can change according to your subconscious or your will. If you should have a real wife, well, most marriages end in divorce. No one wants to go through that kind of an experience.

I'm not personally interested in a friend, spouse, waifu, or any of these things whatsoever. I'm not interested in girls looking for nice, nerdy guys making threads on the board where I can have the perfect amount of social interaction necessary for me.

Please at least sage your posts if you post again.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:00:23 2011 No.6810318

You want an otaku as a partner?

No you don't. You're just lonely.

They cannot provide you with anything. Most don't have licenses or even a place of there own. All they can offer you is intellectual discussion(not even that) you're better off having otaku FRIENDS as they're great listeners.

With a real outgoing positive guy he'll take you places, you can go surfing, shopping..all that normal shit. You can introduce him to your nerdy side, well he introduces you to his outgoing side, You'll have fun and learn off each other. He'll bring you out of your shell and you'll make him think a bit more about things. He'll have a place for you to live in and look after you. Otaku don't fucking do any of this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:01:23 2011 No.6810322 http://www.dollalbum.com/dollgallery/index.php?cat=13010 Dollbro, any pics of you with your dick in the Miku? >deified further

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:03:23 2011 No.6810327 >>6810322 You want to see more of that cock I see.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:04:23 2011 No.6810331 File: 173 KB, 1280x720, 1289560629024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810318 Annon speaks words of wisdom. Pic related: Annon and OP

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:05:23 2011 No.6810334

Here's the deal, OP: There are fucking tons of nerdy, shy guys out there who are actually into real, living, 3D human girls. The people who are into dolls or 2D are hardly the majority of "nice, nerdy guys." You're infinitely more likely to get along with one of these "normal" nerds than try and outdo what are essentially idealized, perfect companions in, well, perfection in order to catch the eye of people who simply aren't interested.

The board you're probably looking for is actually /r9k/, which is full of ordinary run-of-the-mill shy loners, who, because they're on 4chan, probably have a handful of nerdy hobbies. Their taglines are "forever alone" and "beta as fuck" or something like that. So go ask them, you'll get nothing from us here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:08:23 2011 No.6810341 OP, the truth is 90% of /jp/ are normal people pretending to be NEET because they're hipster like that. Most would go out with you even if they deny it here.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:08:23 2011 No.6810342

>>6810301
Well, I guess I would be meaning "How did you become hikikkomori?" or "What defines a hikikkomori?"

So that OP statement is a question as to whether people would ever be willing to give up 2D love for 3D (assuming it would fulfill the main demands of your 2D lovers from what I gathered from Miku doll man as: attractiveness, not being a moron, and sexual subservience), is it really just because you don't think you can achieve a 3D love that meets those standards or you would not give up 2D even if that ideal 3D relationship were possible?

Is this a better way to put it? Do you understand it? Do I have to rephrase it again? (I'd rather not since it IS 6AM, and it takes me awhile to think things up to type at this hour.) This is all very interesting to me, so I'd like to hear your responses, if it is possible. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:13:23 2011 No.6810364 It's simply not possible for a real person to live up to a perfected ideal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:13:23 2011 No.6810365 >>6810342 Alot of us have various mental disorders that prevent us from forming relationships. 2D love, to me personally is fucking ridiculous. For me I don't really feel loneliness. I've lived my entire life alone and I love it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:13:23 2011 No.6810366 File: 16 KB, 350x261, 9136123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Basically, if you want to appeal to a doll owner, you have to be kuudere.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:15:23 2011 No.6810368 >>6810364 I blame Pandora's box or the fact that Eve bit the apple

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:16:23 2011 No.6810373 >>6810341 People actually do that for street cred?

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 06:16:23 2011 No.6810379

Someone who says they don't need love is like a poor farmer who only harvests rice. He is too lazy to bother working for other food, so he fulfills his own theory that rice is all the food you need. Please stop reminding them that their existence is pitiful, because they're honestly too stubborn to do anything about it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:24:23 2011 No.6810392 >>6810342 not the guy who asked but i find this a better way. 3D love is nice IMO. play ur cards right and it can lead to pleasure. eventually maybe even happiness if ur lucky enough. i hope i undertood right.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:24:23 2011 No.6810394

>>6810342
>ssuming it would fulfill the main demands of your 2D lovers from what I gathered from Miku doll man as: attractiveness, not being a moron, and sexual subservience

I'd honestly say this probably isn't a good representation of the general interests of /jp/, simply because those a general things that any guy looks for (being pretty, not a retard, and willing to do what the guy wants sexually? Those are basic general good traits.) The problem in /jp/ is that our individuals tend to have far more specific requirements.

To use myself as an example.

I would love to meet a girl who is inexperienced, shy around others besides me, literally so in love that she'd die if I asked her to, clingy but values my happiness above her own enough that she'd go away for a while if I asked her to (and do so happily, returning later).Quick to get Jealous, but rather than acting on the feeling and taking it out on me, confesses the jealousy later, embarassed and thinking I'd dislike her for it. (I wouldn't) A good cook. Doesn't really expect anything from me, but is happy with the smallest things, and is fine with me not doing anything with my life. (Also she must have long hair and be cute and flat-chested and get cold easily.)

Clearly. These aren't realistic expectations for any healthy relationship. /jp/ knows that. Even if there was a girl who could possibly meet those requirements, what are the chances that I'd ever meet that girl? or that she'd fall in love with me, especially considering my lack of redeeming qualities.

2D meets those expectations and more.
3D will never accomplish that, and even if it does, there are a million other factors that could interfere and fuck shit up.

tl;dr 2D will always meet expectations and never betray you. 3D is terrible.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:25:23 2011 No.6810396 >>6810317 This. Maybe you should try /a/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:26:23 2011 No.6810402 You guys can never resist answering into these "LOOK AT ME I'M A GURL, ANSWER MY POINTLESS QUESTIONS" threads?

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:28:23 2011 No.6810406

>>6810364
But yet, in some ways, isn't the ideal also imperfect in that the fact that its illusion just isn't good enough?

Example: Why do people offer the computer screen a cake for its birthday? It can neither appreciate your efforts or even eat the cake you brought it. So how do people get around that fact? How do you make it "real" enough so that you believe it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:29:23 2011 No.6810407 >>6810402 Maybe if we answer she won't make another thread about it in the future.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:29:23 2011 No.6810408 >>6810394 this, we've given up and accepted loneliness

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:29:23 2011 No.6810409
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If you guys look at various chat places, you see lots of aggressive girls who like going out. They will have more than one guy at the same time dating them though, but require the guy to be solo with them.

It may seem strange to you, but I dislike wearing rings or jewelry of any kind, so I don't wear my wedding ring except on a light neckchain. As an unfortunate consequence, I get "hit upon" by girls looking for nice but unformally dressed guys who are well-off employed. Musing over that, some of us at our workplace wonder if nerds as a subclass have the favorable attention of a group of females looking more for longterm security and solid retirement/travel prospects than in short term garrulous cool hip types. If the OP is looking for nerds with that in mind, well, many nerds are available; just remember that that their job and job-related extracurricular interests will compete with you for time. So don't get pouty at that.

Sometimes nerds are just too afraid to look. In one large office bay of our corporation, at least 3 couples met for the first time in that bay and (6 people from that bay) married. At another smaller bay with 33 people, 2 of them met for the first time in that bay and married each other.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:29:23 2011 No.6810411 >>6810394 although it would maybe seem that u make a valid point, what about the fact that 3D can talk to you and even though suprises arent always good, it can lead to more spontanious and exciting things.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:30:23 2011 No.6810416 >>6810407 The exact opposite will happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:31:23 2011 No.6810418 >>6810408 Sure is to bad mods dont ban pussies like you. Then you would be utterly alone and you would kill your selves.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:31:23 2011 No.6810419

>>6810379

>Can't tolerate loneliness
>Think's that because he can't, nobody else can

That's your problem bro, not ours. Keep your generalisations to yourself. I've been in a couple of relationships during my adolescence and I never felt "love", not even towards my parents. I thought that something was wrong with me but that's just the way I was born.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:33:23 2011 No.6810420 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_relationship

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:33:23 2011 No.6810423
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Love is about circumstances and chance. I didn't choose it and I certainly couldn't explain how or why. Things just happened the way they did. I can barely bring myself to acknowledge anyone else.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:33:23 2011 No.6810424 >>6810419 ooooo. arent u dark?? maybe you just never met the right person??

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:34:23 2011 No.6810425

In the first place, it's hopeless if you're trying to compete with 2D, not because 2D is perfect, but because 2D is our lives. Expecting us to stop playing galge is like expecting us to throw away our will to live. There are many people here who would seriously kill themselves if you take away their hobbies. No kind of relationship would be able to make up for the loss of our passions.

So if you want to appeal to a 2D lover (which, as previously mentioned, is a pretty stupid thing to do in the first place), you can't think that you're going to win over his heart from 2D, at best you can make him give some room in his heart for you next to his love for 2D. Which would be done by offering the advantages of 3D to him, without expecting him to sacrifice his love for 2D. As soon as you start complaining about him playing galge instead of paying attention to you, you're tearing away at what makes him a living and breathing man.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:35:23 2011 No.6810427

>>6810411
If 3D doesn't meet said requirements, why the hell would I want to be in a romantic relationship and talk?

As someone mentioned earlier, the kind of people you find on /jp/ (the ones that go outside and occasionally socialize) are great listeners. I know I had a crapload of female friends in High School who came to me with problems or just to talk, but did I ever even think about asking them out? No, because they made decent friends, but they just weren't what I wanted out of a romantic relationship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:35:23 2011 No.6810428 File: 121 KB, 298x411, 1290347666182.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810424 Stop that. He's correct.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 06:35:23 2011 No.6810429 >>6810419 Despite this being the trollsy OP, I agree that his post sounds like a whiny 12 year old's Facebook post.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:37:23 2011 No.6810434

>>6810424
>>6810429

I'm not whining you fucking retard, I like being alone. What the hell can't you comprehend about it? Ahh, you're a troll.

Believe it or not some people can live in solitude my friend, if you can't and won't accept it that's not my problem.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:38:23 2011 No.6810437 >>6810427 fine fine be lonely. Just dont be so depressing about it. What do you get out of that??

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:40:23 2011 No.6810441

OP, I've been to /jp/ long enough to know a very GOOD reason you would not want to be in a relationship with any of them.

Being with you would inevitably detract from their time spent on their hobbies. Otherwise you'd be gone all the time and they'd just assume you were going to cheat on them or cheating on them, which you likely would.

It's not really that hard to understand, but people here are jaded, but at least they're realistic and true to their hobbies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:42:23 2011 No.6810445 >>6810437 He obviously gets to sit on a grimdark throne of delusional superiority. I like being alone most of the time as well but fucking hell.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:42:23 2011 No.6810446 >>6810441 It would be downright cruel to expect the prerequisite loyalty /jp/ wants from a 3D pig.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:42:23 2011 No.6810447 >>6810441 sad but true.. why cant people just try to limit their hobbies. I love watching anime and i am getting into collecting figures and such. however i do kno the limit of wanting to go outside and play some football with friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:43:23 2011 No.6810449 >>6810437 Nobody is really depressed about their own loneliness. They really DO love 2D vs 3D. It's this thread and talking about it that is depressing. Sadly, this thread is going to happen all over again repeatedly, until moot eventually deletes it.

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 06:44:23 2011 No.6810451

>>6810434
>People who are normal are just TROLLS!

Well, yeah, that's why we come into /jp/.
But you still missed my entire point.
You only think you're "fine" with being lonely because you lack the capacity to actually experience unconditional love and friendship.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:45:23 2011 No.6810455 >>6810446 If it isn't that loyal. It isn't real love.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:45:23 2011 No.6810456 inb4 emo, DARKNESS, trolls etc

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:45:23 2011 No.6810457

>>6810394
What about all the things 2D can't accomplish?

How can a computer game, or a comic, or any other inanimate object "feel" the things you want it to? It can't get jealous. It can't be happy. It can't feel cold. These are feelings you imagine the object of your affection feeling. 2D can't meet your expectations at all, you just pretend that it does. How is it any different from your criticism of 3D, then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:45:23 2011 No.6810458 >>6810451 so we're agreed then that sad man of despair needs some friends then right??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:46:23 2011 No.6810463 >>6810451 What would it even matter? If he feel fine, why the fuck should he have to find a new definition of happiness to cater to the general public?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:48:23 2011 No.6810471 >>6810457 this is the point i was trying to get across earlier. it seems people are really just fine or even extremely happy with their illusions.

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 06:49:23 2011 No.6810474

>>6810463

I don't deny that he feels fine with what he's doing, or that he needs to change. I just dislike the idea that this is somehow a "way of life" instead of a justification for limitations set on yourselves out of arrogance and selfishness.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:49:23 2011 No.6810475 >>6810451 Whatever dude, take it easy.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:51:23 2011 No.6810479

>>6810441
>>6810447
Yes, you are a normalfag. Nobody on /jp/ would ever go outside with friends to play football for various reasons that would become obvious if you lurked more. Life is about living, it's not really

>>6810457
You seriously underestimate the powers of "imagination" and "delusions". People can easily be happy like that, it's the same with people who get attached to roleplaying characters on /tg/ or RPG characters. They SEEM almost like real people. So it's not a stretch to treat them as such.

I don't ever come on /jp/, but it's annoying to see people unable to understand that trying to "Save" people on this board is retarded when they obviously enjoy doing what they do. You're not the first person to do this sort of crap so it obviously won't work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:51:23 2011 No.6810481 >>6810429 You've got the wrong guy, partner. That's not OP (me). I appreciate what my parents have done for me all of my life. I may not always agree with them, but they really do have my best interests at heart.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:52:23 2011 No.6810484

>>6810457
It's very different. /jp accepts that the expectations are impossible, so it turns to fantasy (that's 2D). It's understood that 2D is nothing but fantasy used to "fill a hole". The point was simply that while fantasy can cover that hole, 3D is like throwing a handful of sand at a hole in a half-hearted attempt to get a few grains in to make it less wide. It's not like you can just pretend a 3D girl meets those requirements while you date her.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:52:23 2011 No.6810485

>if a girl came along who could do all those things you would pick her over the doll?

I probably would, yeah. But only if she'd have the same loyalty for me as I'd have for her, and for some reason I find it rather hard to believe.
The whole concept of someone liking me more than playing PS2 at midnight and talking about random shit in the shared kitchen is kinda far off, but I'd give it a chance if we got closer.

It's not like I'd ever get the money to blow on a doll like that anyway.

Figurines are fine for me.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:53:23 2011 No.6810487

>>6810474
Go tell that to buddhist monks or Catholic priests or various other people who have imaginary friends that love them. It's the exact same thing. Do you think you could convince a monk that he should give up what he's doing and go bang a whore to meet society's standards?

And yes, I am saying that /jp/ are the celibate monks of 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:54:23 2011 No.6810488 >>6810479 What rationale do you have for not having friends? This is something /jp/ only ever implies is bad, but never ever states why.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:56:23 2011 No.6810494 >>6810488 i would also like to know as well. >>6810487 thats a pretty good comparison

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:57:23 2011 No.6810496

>>6810488
They don't say it's BAD. They say it's normalfaggy. /jp/ won't ever seriously mock you for having friends, you just don't belong here if you do. It's a lifestyle choice.

Even though I don't come on here, I can understand it. Friends are always taking away from MY own personal hobby-time and other things I enjoy. I've gotten rid of most of them, and it's really liberating to have all that free-time to yourself.

Some people have more fun on their own. The fact that you asked that question pretty much assures you can't put yourself in anyone's shoes who are like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:58:23 2011 No.6810498 File: 267 KB, 478x600, Some-men-Just-want-to-watch-the-world-burn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810479 Try to save people? Really? Me?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:59:23 2011 No.6810500 >>6810487 Monks are voluntarily celibate.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 06:59:23 2011 No.6810501

>>6810474
The point remains that what you see as limitations, or your idea that it isn't really a living is absurd to begin with.

It'd be like me commenting on how you aren't really living life because you haven't gone on an African safari and visited a monastery in the Himalayas, or gone whaling, or had be married with a kid living in the suburbs. The point is that it's rather stupid of anyone to be of the opinion that anyone else's life is somehow 'incomplete' just because that person hasn't done what you think they should do.

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:00:23 2011 No.6810503

>>6810494
>>6810488
Seems to be answered by
>>6810496

Which is, of course, a load of shit. I work, go to school, and spend most of my time on terrible computer games. I still have time to hang out with real friends, and argue with imaginary ones on 4chan.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:01:23 2011 No.6810505

>>6810158
Despite not having a waifu of any sort, I can still at least tell you something about relationships I hope most people here would share.
First of all, it's inconceivable that I would form a relationship with a woman who is unfair. It makes no sense for the man in the relationship to bend over backwards and sacrifice money and time to please a woman who doesn't do so in return. That implies that women are helpless and incapable and that's not something I'd deal with. They complain about equality: this is equality.

>who's not a total moron
For me to respect any hypothetical partner they would need to have a fundamental understanding of the laws of nature and have common sense. Not being able to comprehend evolution, or refusing to accept it, for example, would be an absolute dealbreaker. That's just an example of many.
I am consistently surprised at how naive and illogical the vast majority of women appear, despite claims that they are of equal intelligence. I'm not a misogynist, just an objective observer.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:01:23 2011 No.6810506

>>6810488

-conflicting interests
-the latter is usually stupid or uneducated, they have everything to leech but nothing to give in return
-drama
-have to be responsible for their emotional wellbeing
-cannot cut ties whenever, constricted in the relationship

Talking over the internet is much better, here I can say whatever the fuck I want without worrying about the latters feelings, get more information about a broad range of topics, talk with people who are similar to myself

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:01:23 2011 No.6810507

>>6810496
im not >>6810488 but if i could take that statement i would ask why cant people like that belong here?? i enjoy otaku culture. maybe not as much as the next guy or have enough knowledge of what i would assume the criteria would be but that shouldnt mean i belong here.

where is the fun in all that free time looking at all those almost vacant faces not saying a word unless you imagine them too??

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:01:23 2011 No.6810510 >>6810496 I've never had the problem with them taking up my time. Maybe once every month or two, so maybe I can't understand it. But, I'm not interested in your "if(friends) gtfo else welcome" logic.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:02:23 2011 No.6810512 >>6810501 Socialization isn't an absurd limitation. Your life isn't going to be miserable without it, but you'd have to be crazy to think that it's a temporary construct of madmen.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:03:23 2011 No.6810514

>>6810488
Having friends means that you have to go outside.

I have one friend, and we go back some 15 years. We don't really have a lot in common, and we see each other maybe once or twice a month even though we live in the same city now.
He doesn't "get" anime and "all that Japanese stuff", while I'm the guy who can just sit at my computer all day and night doing nothing but just that.

Maybe I could consider some of the girls in the shared kitchen here at the dorm I live in my friends, but in a way they're more like "people I talk to when I meet them".
They know about my Japanese Studies and ask me whether the text parts in Battle Royale actually mean what the subtitles say, but apart from that, they're not really interested in anything Japanese as far as I know.
As long as they talk to me casually, I can relax around them.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:04:23 2011 No.6810518

>>6810484

But there is no actual improvement of the hole. The hole with 2D love stays the same size as it ever was. With 3D love, the hole gets smaller, even if it is only by a tiny bit. Isn't the better option still to try to repair the hole? I mean, if you tried to fix a pothole, would you rather put a piece of paper over it or patch it up, even if you couldn't fill the whole thing? Even with a slight patch job, your commute would still improve, as opposed to just covering it up and having a rough commute as usual.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:05:23 2011 No.6810523

>>6810507
The point is, at it's core /jp/ doesn't care about you having friends. You free to be a normalfriend and lurk and post. Just don't fucking comment about how you're a normalfriend when someone makes a comment about being a Hikikomori.

It's the same concept behind femanons, by puting 'fem' in front you're already completely breaking the point of being anonymous.

It shouldn't matter if you are a normalfriend on /jp/ because /jp/ should never find out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:07:23 2011 No.6810530 >>6810523 This much I can agree with. Nasty discussions only ever come up when we discuss our differences.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:09:23 2011 No.6810532

>>6810523
my bad for trying to put myself on some sort of high tier post just for being able to go outside. i only wanted some understanding of how people can just be ok with i guess doing nothing. aside from internet wouldnt it be almost compareable to being in solitary confinement??

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:10:23 2011 No.6810535

>>6810507
I dare say you may very well stay here, lurking the shadows and never bringing up or commenting on the "OMG HEY GUISE I HAEV GURLFRIEND THAT'S GREET". Or "YOU GUUSE NEED FRIENDS".

It's just silly, and at one point would get you reported for not being /jp/ related.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:10:23 2011 No.6810536 >>6810530 >>6810523 I don't see why you're so averse to bad discussions and arguments. We'll probably never convince anyone of anything, but it beats the shit out of "my waifu is better than your waifu".

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:10:23 2011 No.6810538

>>6810518
You've missed the point of my analogy.

2D is the thing that helps a bit. 3D just makes it worse.

2D is like filling (or pretending to fill) the pothole a bit. Getting a 3D girlfriend that doesn't meet expectations, and therefore disappoints, is like not fixing the pothole at all and instead washing your car. Washing the car doesn't do anything to fix the problem, at least pretending makes driving over it a more pleasurable experience.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:11:23 2011 No.6810539 >>6810487 This comparison having been made, I'd like to see what /jp/ thinks about the idea/concept of God.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:13:23 2011 No.6810545

>>6810512

Wow, how ignorant can you be? You don't speak on behalf of the entire human race. You have to accept there are things you don't know and you cannot know for certain how others feel and think. You seem to make wise comments but really, you're just a retard. Sorry, but you need to be more open minded.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:15:23 2011 No.6810548

>>6810523
A different normalfag here. I wonder if you are really speaking for the majority when you say that?
The fact that I frequent this board but am so dramatically unlike what you call a typical /jp/er leads me to believe I'm not alone. In addition I question whether there are that many hyper-introverted NEETs with no social contact whatsoever here, or whether there are simply an outspoken few because no normalfags feel comfortable showing their [reverse] powerlevel.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:15:23 2011 No.6810549 >>6810535 sadly i feel this going away from /jp/ related things anyway

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:16:23 2011 No.6810550 >89 posts and 8 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:16:23 2011 No.6810551 >>6810514 NOOOOOORMAL FAAAAAAG

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:17:23 2011 No.6810554

>>6810545
>Someone who probably often likes to speak on behalf of all /jp/ is really making that argument.

Yes, I really am making that assumption because socialization is what we base 99% of our emotions from. Removing it really does make you less human.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:17:23 2011 No.6810556

>>6810539
That's it. Get out.

I like this thread better than the shitty hikikomori threads where it feels like you have to only go outside once a week in order to just be in the thread.
Simply because you aren't enough of a shut-in because you aren't a NEET, and you actually enjoy talking to a select two or three people.

Like the more socially retarded you make yourself out to be, the better you fit in.
So people make themselves retarded in the outside world in order to fir in here in /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:18:23 2011 No.6810557 >>6810549 Last time I checked, /jp/ was titled "Otaku culture". He may not be involved in it very well, but we are indeed discussing the culture of Otaku's here. (Or at least I'm trying to.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:18:23 2011 No.6810558 >>6810554 is that why that one king of sad guy was so sad?? cause he didnt socialize thus making him emotionless. just making an assumption here..

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:18:23 2011 No.6810560

>>6810536
I'm not adverse to discussion, it's just rather retarded of people to go into, for example a waifu thread, and say "I don't get the point of a waifu, you guys are stupid for arguing" and then NOT expect the thread posters to respond with "Get the fuck out, normalfag"

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:19:23 2011 No.6810561 >>6810556 >So people make themselves retarded in the outside world in order to fit in here in 4chan. You've solved the riddle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:19:23 2011 No.6810563 A girl friend is a tool for sex, a wife is a tool for sex and breeding. You want a women that can understand you, get a friend and stop bitching.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:20:23 2011 No.6810564

>>6810536
Those threads aren't that common, especially anymore. I think /a/ has adopted them though.

>>6810539
Most of /jp/ are atheists, obviously.

>>6810548
I used to come here, but then I got a girlfriend. I am more or less unhappy and depressed most of the time, and was happier before the relationship. It's terrible and I think it will inevitably lead to terrible feelings for most of /jp/.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:21:23 2011 No.6810565

>>6810556
yeah. i didnt like that thinking either. im just trying to understand how the "criteria" i mentioned earlier makes you a sure thing to be acknowldged in this board instead of just lurking which honestly i do sometimes because i have no real input.

GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:22:23 2011 No.6810566

>>6810560

Threadshitting is a whole different animal. Someone making their own thread about the appeal of 2D waifus should be more open to discussion than "gtfo normalfag". And sometimes we really do get some good discussions going (when it's not posted during the daytime).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:23:23 2011 No.6810571 >>6810563 Females are people with feelings too. In fact (believe it or not) some of them are NEET like yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:24:23 2011 No.6810573 >>6810564 but wouldnt you say the expierence of a girlfriend is at least worth it?? in concern of trying to actually do something before he or she dies especially.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:24:23 2011 No.6810575 >>6810571 Most female NEETS are funjoshi.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:25:23 2011 No.6810577

I think this thread has yet to fully address the most underlying aspect: why it is we love 2D

There's a plethora of reasons, really, and certainly all of them don't apply to everyone here. However, for those who do prefer 2D it's generally because of a combination of the following

1) unwillingness to enter a relationship in which he will constantly fear being betrayed or left.
Your 2D waifu will never leave you (this is the big one)

2) No need to sacrifice your energy, time, or effort
Exactly when was the birthday of your 2D waifu again? Oh right...

3a) no pre-relationship drama
Courting her is not dependent upon you being so "fucking alpha."

3b) No relationship drama
She has no friends, no family, you are her only one. She will never try to manipulate you, and will never be tainted by the shitty minds of her jealous friends who may have yet to find love.
Exception: your folks may give you shit for chasing after 2D booty, rather than fathering a family.

3b) No post-relationship drama
You can leave her whenever you want
Personally I would never leave my beautiful wife, she's perfect, pure, the best, and I would sooner eat her shit and accept her dick up my asshole if she were to spontaneously grow one and need me to fulfill her sexual needs than for a micron of a second imagine life without me loving her.

4) She will always accept your love
In addition to bringing no drama to the relationship, she will always reciprocate your enamoration with her.

5) The potential medical and health problems common in 3D women do not exist in 2D
When was the last time your waifu had her period, found a lump in her chest, or forgot to take those contraceptive pills?
Exception: broken girls who you love for being damaged goods.
Addendum: 3D women may die before you, but your 2D waifu cannot die so long as your voice and mind can reach them, so long as you as well live.

(continued...)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:26:23 2011 No.6810580 >>6810573 I don't think it is. I'm honestly not even interested.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:26:23 2011 No.6810581

>>6810577

6) No mandatory financial burdens on her or the child you won't have
In addition to not needing to burn time, energy, and effort (number 2) you don't need to spend any money.
While it's not mandatory you spend money on her, I personally have spent hundreds on hand drawn illustrations and figurines of her from yahoo auction japan. In other words, I have no problem doting money on her.

7) She is perfect for you, your ideal.
There are thousands upon thousands of women to choose from, all so distinct in aesthetics and most importantly personality. There is a special one out there for you to love.

In summation: she won't leave you, you won't sacrifice your time/effort/energy, there's substantially less drama, she will always accept and love you, she will not leave you against her will (die), she will not necessarily burden you financially, and finally she is perfect for you.

(continued...)

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:27:23 2011 No.6810582

>>6810581

Now let's examine the cons with 2D

1) Your waifu may have difficulty physically expressing her love for you.
Let me analogize this as I would for a doll-lover. Your doll wife, despite her intense, passionate love for you, will not be able to physically interact with you and show her affection or appreciation for your combined existence on the same plane of reality that you and I interact. Truly there is nothing more futile than this.

Finally, let's examine the pros and cons of 3D

Cons) Invert the pros that I mentioned for 2D waifus.

Pro) you will have physical descendants
Enjoy having children growing up in the same dysfunctional world that's out to get them that you had. Do you really want a child of yours to suffer the same outlandish strife you had to endure in school? Fuck that, I'd rather he never exist than grow into the pessimistic person-hating loser I am. However, by producing children you will be altruistically giving back to society, not that we need the population to keep climbing with all the human garbage breeding like the rats they are. I suppose that makes this pro an entirely moot point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:28:23 2011 No.6810585 >>6810575 >funjoshi what does that even mean

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:28:23 2011 No.6810588 >>6810582 >>6810582 >>6810582 >>6810581 >>6810581 >>6810581 >>6810581 >>6810581 >>6810577 >>6810577 >>6810577 >>6810577 This. /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:29:23 2011 No.6810592 >>6810585 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=fujoshi&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:31:23 2011 No.6810595 >>6810592 I refuse to use internet search engines [they are unethical]. Please help me out.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:32:23 2011 No.6810597

>>6810582
ok now roll with me here... lets say a person has their waifu and you have made all your points. in your case the person with the waifu will be completely open to their waifu being jacked off to or "being" with someone else because in a way a waifu is just a representation of the show it was on. almost like a logo. now in 3D, unless that woman is cloned, for however long the two are together she is yours. unless of course she cheats but thats a whole nother issue...

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:32:23 2011 No.6810598 File: 91 KB, 750x503, irony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810564 >Most of /jp/ are atheists, obviously. Oh, the irony.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:33:23 2011 No.6810601

>>6810573
No. I love my girlfriend, but it isn't worth it. I miss my hobbies and she's always dressing up like a man for yaoi cosplaying.

If /jp/ ever became normalfags I would lose all respect for them. They should stick to their 2D waifus, with their unconditional love and the lack of paranoia associated with it. You never have to worry about a 2D waifu being unfaithful or ever leaving you.

Seriously, even while I'm with someone, 2D > 3D.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:34:23 2011 No.6810603 >I don't have waifu's > I'd love a girl who wanted a nice nerdy guy, as that mostly describes me > Then again, I only lurk /jp/

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:34:23 2011 No.6810604

>>6810597
Except that your waifu is an individual instance of the character, who belongs to only you.

A 3D girlfriend is a single instance, will probably still be jacked off to by random guys in her classes/workplace that aren't you, will probably have guy friends some even close enough to hug, and risks the potential of betrayal.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:34:23 2011 No.6810605 >>6810601 That sounds like a fault of your girlfriend and not every single 3D human female.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:37:23 2011 No.6810609
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>>6810565
It's not like you have to be acknowledged, is it?

If you want everyone licking your nuts over a doll you bought, claiming you've "rejected real women for true pleasure in life" and whatnot, go right ahead.

I'm here because I feel I fit in here the most, and that's why I've been coming back ever since the split and all the shittiness we've been through.
I haven't played ten percent of the games people here talk about, I don't read VNs, etc., so I stay out of those threads, but that still doesn't mean I have to justify I fit in.

It'd be a lie to say I wasn't inspired to buy a figurine every now and then because of the people and their rooms here in /jp/, but it's not like I was thinking about all the sweet comments I'd get when I post a picture of my rather generic figurines.

>>6810551
And what are you? Jelly? Mad? Or did you just want to point out the one who sticks out a little bit so you can feel more as a part of the crowd?
Yes, I got my ass kicked to pieces in Crash Team Racing by a girl last night, but that's only because she just put the game in the PS2 we were using to play a DVD for the total of 4 people gathered in the shared kitchen before the other two left.
It was fun, and I'd play with her again if you know what I mean, but if you think my social contact makes me feel like less of a 23 year old virgin, you'd have to reconsider.
Feel free to analyze on why I added that last part, by the way. Did I do it because I want to fit in? To heighten the chance of a reply?

I don't know whether I should feel trolled or not anymore.

At least I don't get as mad as some of the people playing World of Tanks and Supremacy 1914 even though I stay up all night on mumble.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:38:23 2011 No.6810612

>>6810597
>>6810597
Whether or not someone in the world happens to have a waifu that shares the name and aesthetic appearance of yours is absolutely irrelevant.

You do not interact with this 3D man or woman who shares your tastes, nor does their involvement in any way actually effect the love you feel for your waifu or in my case my 2D wife.

These two waifus may seem similar but are actually individual entities, reinterpretations by two different people.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:40:23 2011 No.6810617

>>6810597
>>6810605
I've had like, 5 girlfriends. This one is the best. She's a lonely shut-in so I don't have to be AS paranoid. Seriously, it's not worth it in the end. Every relationship I've had has been me either slowly growing to hate how much time the girl spends on me, or being paranoid that she'd leave me, so I usually broke them off.

Finding a half-decent girlfriend for someone from /jp/ with their high standards would be literally impossible. Even implying that they should break up with their waifus is ridiculous, because waifus kick ass.

>>6810604
>>6810597
Unless your girlfriend is ABSOLUTELY hideous, people are jerking off to her. At least with waifus you don't have to think of other men trying to hit on her or stealing her away from you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:41:23 2011 No.6810620 >>6810609 Hell yes i'm mad because the whole fucking board is living in a fantasy land where they can fap to their waifu's all day and dream about frolicking in gensokyo all night. It just isn't right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:42:23 2011 No.6810622 >>6810609 yeah i was post >>6810565 and i agree with wat you are saying (aside from fitting in here most. sorry.) i find inspiration to buy a figure because i truely like THAT character from that show or wherever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:44:23 2011 No.6810628 File: 276 KB, 590x331, togame-punch.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810620 And so... Get the fuck out, normalfag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:44:23 2011 No.6810630 >>6810617 The girl that I am sort of dating is a lonely shut in to, Its the best, plus I am pretty much just like her as I am a shit in to, so we get along really well. Plus she likes touhous

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:45:23 2011 No.6810632 >>6810617 no but instead you have to realize that people are jacking off to the photos and designs and art of your waifu since the whole entire world has complete access to her image.

>>	GreenTrashcan !6mvmNVD6E6 Sat Jan 15 07:48:23 2011 No.6810637 File: 59 KB, 500x533, FUNjoshi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810585

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:48:23 2011 No.6810638

>>6810630
Yeah, I probably exaggerated a bit, but it's really not a good deal over-all. I genuinely miss being alone with my waifu and going through /jp/ and VNs for 12 hours a day.

>>6810632
Yes, but they can't ever steal her away from you as long as you love your waifu. 3D though? It CAN happen, and you'll never know if it has either way. It's terrifying. Not only that, but later on if she divorces you, you've wasted your life sharing it with some person, time that could have been your own all along.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:50:23 2011 No.6810640

>>6810632
That's the point though. The character itself isn't your waifu. The character itself has its own canon and story and environment. Your waifu is a personal version of that character come to life, one that belongs solely, and wholly to you. Something 3D can't do because the natural eniroment and relationships of a 3D girl are the same as the ones in your relationship.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:51:23 2011 No.6810642

>>6810620
You are claiming to be angry over what other people think and the fantasies they indulge themselves in.

There's a strict line between having a 2D waifu and wanting to go to gensokyo.

The former is a method used to curb our collective loneliness, while all derivatives (for example wanting to go to Gensokyo and other obvious impossible scenarios) are simply us poking fun at ourselves in the free time we spend carousing /jp/

The actual percentage of /jp/ frequenters who are actually NEETS will be forever unknown. Every board has thier own extremist group which the denizens fancy themseleves as.

I hate using other boards as an example but I have no choice in this case.

People from /v/ imagine themselves as these atomic rage boilers, many from /co/ fancy themselves little girls who love my little pony, and many, many years ago /b/ fancied themseleves as a pedophile, furry-hating legion.

Not because anyone actually believes these things of themselves, but because it is a method of vicarious existances unique to the niches supplied by each individual board.

I imagine most of us aren't NEETS but we still claim to be so, and brandish the red flag of "normal-fag" hating. I believe the most vehement of these antagonistic displays on /jp/ come from people who themselves identify as being too normal.

For all you know we could all be in our last years of high school, through college, graduated, with a job, studying abroad in Finland, who the hell knows, does anyone care?

No, it's completely irrelevant. What brings us together is the uniqueness of our interests. If you do not share our interests, hobbies, and fascinations, then why are you here?

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:52:23 2011 No.6810644

>>6810638
interesting point. idk. i cant get over the fact of thinking ok here is my waifu on my screen and on my desk and ok there is however many people with the same figure of her doing god knows wat. i would like to say i have a waifu but im not into her pretty much for that reason. the fact that she is all over the place doesnt really make her seem like she's MINE.

and make her ass sign a prenup!!

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:53:23 2011 No.6810645

>>6810617
>Finding a half-decent girlfriend for someone from /jp/ with their high standards would be literally impossible

You're saying that like we're all the same.
I can't be the only maid-tier who thinks it'd be cool if I got a rich girlfriend who'd be nice to me and go to work, while I just stayed at home cleaning and gardening.
Then on the weekends we could play games all night while eating cake and sipping Port, or we could take a walk in a forest or go to the beach.
And I think she'd have to ask me out before anything serious could happen, since I don't think I'll ever be able to.

Really, I just want a nice home, so if I somehow got hold of a ton of money, chances are I'd just move out into a forest and live with a cat, and some other easy-to-keep animals with some sort of production value.
The little chicken-like birds which lay spotted eggs, bees for honey, etc.

Would I ever say that to anyone I've never met before face to face?
Maybe if someone asked me what my ideal life was like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:54:23 2011 No.6810648 >>6810632 Whether or not men furiously ejaculate to her visage and the image of her body is absolutely irrelevant as well. If you truly love her then something as petty as someone else's auto-satisfaction will be meaningless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:55:23 2011 No.6810653 >>6810645 one can dream my friend..

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:58:23 2011 No.6810658

I had a girlfriend for three years. Now, I barely look at women, am utterly devoted to 2D and my own pursuits.

I have been to the other side, and my brothers: it is not worth it. It was a huge time-sink, a waste of energy and money, and 3D can just never compare to a mixture of 2D and fantasy for me. Perhaps I'm an extremely selfish person, or emotionally damaged in some way. I have friends, people I would count as 'bros' even, who I am close to, but I will never again seek any kind of romantic or sexual relationship with another human being.

And I'm happy. To all the haters and normalfags out there who don't understand this: it is a valid lifestyle choice, there's nothing wrong with it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:58:23 2011 No.6810659 >>6810642 I'm here because the mere fact that people like you exists fascinates me. (also flower-loving youkai threads)

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:58:23 2011 No.6810660

>>6810645
>If I somehow got hold of a ton of money, chances are I'd just move out into a forest and live with a cat, and some other easy-to-keep animals with some sort of production value.
So you more or less want to live in Harvest Moon?

>The little chicken-like birds which lay spotted eggs
Quails? Those make nice pets. Meat tastes good too.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:58:23 2011 No.6810661

>>6810638
Honestly, I don't have time to do anything at all. I have max 5 hours a day to do stuff, other than that, Im sleeping or at work.
So vn's and waifu's are things I can't afford for very long anyways. And honestly, if you are terrified that a girl will be stolen from you ( And I am sometimes, I have terrible paranoia.) then either you need to talk to her about it, or you need to find somebody else whom you don't feel terrified that theyll be taken away from you.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:58:23 2011 No.6810663

>>6810645
>Rich girl falling for a person that spends time on /jp/ ( regardless of if they get out of the house or not) and being willing to complete support that /jp/er whilethey stay at home doing chores and otherwise just lounging around.

I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused to why you responded to
>Finding a half-decent girlfriend for someone from /jp/ with their high standards would be literally impossible
as if your situation was different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 07:59:23 2011 No.6810665 >>6810637 What the shit did you do. You spent entirely too much time (probably about 5 minutes) for a dumb joke.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:00:23 2011 No.6810667

>>6810577
1) If it was never there to begin with, of course it can't leave.

2) Maintaining the careful illusion you have created doesn't take energy, time, or effort? You have to fap to your waifu, does that not take energy? You have spend hours fantasizing about her, does that not take time? You have to create and maintain your illusion, does that not take effort?

3) Courting her is dependent upon choosing the right choices in the game.

4) A 2D wife can't reciprocate enamoration, as it can't feel enamored.

5) Fair enough.

6) Show me a man with a waifu who has not ever spent any money on her, then I'll believe you.

7) Is she really perfect? (see cons)

Cons:
A doll doesn't have intense, burning passionate love for you in the first place, as a doll is incapable of love.
>Truly there is nothing more futile than this.

Glad you understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:02:23 2011 No.6810673 >>6810645 I admit... that is pretty adorable. I think anyone would love a live like that. It'd be nice if more women weren't so vapid nowadays, though most people are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:04:23 2011 No.6810675 >>6810667 It's scientifically proven that women eventually lose their passion for a spouse after a few years. Is that really any different? It's biological.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:05:23 2011 No.6810677 >>6810675 Why not show me the study?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:06:23 2011 No.6810680 >>6810661 Agree. as they say "there are a bunch of fish in the sea"

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:07:23 2011 No.6810681 >>6810677 Who needs studies when you can quote justifications for cheating on men from Vogue?

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:07:23 2011 No.6810682

>>6810667
1) she exists within one's own mind

2) substantially less energy than is required to dote on 3D

3) Though one's waifu may include VN characters, mine is from an anime.

4) She is aware of your love and loves you as well. Not on a physical plane however.

5) I probably wouldn't have written this one had my first love died...dammit.

6) You spend substantially less money on a waifu than taking care of a 3D wife. Even the picture of the guy with a miku super dollfie, Miku figs, Miku real doll, and miku posters in his room spent less on her than you would on 3D in a year after marriage.

7) Of course she's perfect, she's the one you chose, she exists through the ideals put in place by your mind.

I personally am under the impression that they can and do love, however I acknowledge that there are others who find notion abstract or impossible to fathom.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:09:23 2011 No.6810685

>>6810677
http://www.oxytocin.org/oxytoc/love-science.html

Also http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/hottopics/love/ But that's obviously done by pro-love nazis. In either case it shows that passion is not long-term. Your brain makes you addicted to people so you'll be with them and create progeny for future generations.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:09:23 2011 No.6810686 The robotic revolution can't come quickly enough. The advent of dolls that can physically show the reciprocation of their love.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:10:23 2011 No.6810687

>>6810660
Harvest Moon?
From wikipedia, I get that it's a farm simulation, so maybe that isn't too far off.
Sure, an extensive vegetable garden would be nice to have as well.

And yes, quails were the bird name I was looking for. English isn't my first language, so I tend to be unable to remember such words when I have to write them, but I know what they are when I see the word.

But again; I think I'd enjoy it even more if I had a wife who'd come home with groceries she picked up on the way back and complain about work, traffic, holes in our forest road, and such other minor things.
Then we could talk, eat dinner, watch TV, play a game, or just sit and read together. Hell, we could have sex if she wanted to.
And then the next day she'd go to work, I'd fill the wheelbarrow with gravel and go fix the holes in the forest road, rinse and repeat.
Then I could either sit inside or on the rooftop terrace playing games, posting on /jp/, whatever I felt like.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:10:23 2011 No.6810689 >>6810682 >5) I probably wouldn't have written this one had my first love died...dammit. that's unfair to use that against all females, most of them live to old age.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:10:23 2011 No.6810690

>>6810667
>You have to fap to your waifu
>have to
No sir.

>You have spend hours fantasizing about her
>have to
No sir.

>You have to create and maintain your illusion
Creating it takes an instant, and unless you have some rare memory condition, it's automatically maintained.

>Courting her is dependent upon choosing the right choices in the game.
You are confusing having a waifu with playing a VN or Eroge and completing routes.

>A 2D wife can't reciprocate enamoration, as it can't feel enamored.
>A doll doesn't have intense, burning passionate love for you in the first place, as a doll is incapable of love.
You're ignoring the fact that 2D is a fantasy, and so by all means, your waifu is absolutely 100% in love with you.

>Show me a man with a waifu who has not ever spent any money on her, then I'll believe you.
Pic related, it's my Waifu, I adore her but have never spent a dime. Why you ask? Because I don't have to.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:11:23 2011 No.6810692 File: 193 KB, 580x530, 1276198420209.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6810690 My apologies, picture forgotten.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:12:23 2011 No.6810695 >>6810692 i like that pic you used there to try and prove your point

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:13:23 2011 No.6810696

>>6810689
However it's completely relevant.

Though she may not necessarily die before you, the point of 5) is that she will develop health problems and degenerate physically.

Your waifu will never spontaneously contract an illness, look any different (without conforming to your ideals) nor will she become injured or sick.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:15:23 2011 No.6810698 >>6810689 >live to old age >old age >old Point made.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:16:49 2011 No.6810700 >>6810696 what if for some reason someones waifu was Misuzu Kamino from the Air anime. She was pretty much sick and dying

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:17:20 2011 No.6810701 >>6810700 If she'd die she'd spontaneously be back when you needed her. Try getting a 3D wife to do THAT.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:17:20 2011 No.6810704 >>6810701 good and funny point there sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:17:50 2011 No.6810702 >>6810696 Is [curable] sickness and disease not one of the many things that makes life interesting and unexpected?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:17:50 2011 No.6810703 >>6810685 Then why assert that you love your 2D wife? And why bother pursuing the love of the 2D wife if you thoroughly believe that such a thing as love can't exist in 3D anyways?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:19:21 2011 No.6810708 >>6810700 Examine the exception in 5) >Exception: broken girls who you love for being damaged goods She may be eternally broken and bedridden, or completely healthy. It's entirely dependent upon your ideals.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:19:51 2011 No.6810710

>>6810702
Yes, watching a loved one with a degenerating or devastating ailment makes life great. Even if she survives, it just makes her less healthy overall if it happens again. Take for example cancer, she could easily get it again afterward, and is in fact more likely to get it again.

You'd have to be heartless to think that such a thing made life "interesting". I mean, I suppose playing russian roulette once a year makes life interesting too.

"OH HEY YOU SURVIVED CANCER. HOW INTERESTING."

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:20:21 2011 No.6810713 >>6810702 You've never lost someone you love dearly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:21:52 2011 No.6810715 >>6810710 Disease roots out the weak. Just as it should be.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:21:52 2011 No.6810716 >>6810703 Because in fantasy it IS real. Sure, some people might even find NEW waifus, but nobody is ever hurt by it. Not only that, but with obsessions such as these, you only have to worry about ONE of you losing the passion, yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:23:22 2011 No.6810721 >>6810715 Even if it's someone you love who has been with you for 10, 15 or 20 years? Try telling that to your bedridden 3D wife.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:24:52 2011 No.6810723 >>6810716 I would never haphazardly disregard the emotions of my 2D wife in such a terrible way. She is perfect, we will be together forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:26:23 2011 No.6810726 >>6810721 gotta figure with that comment he wouldnt really have a bedridden wife.

Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:26:53 2011 No.6810727

>>6810702
No, but it makes me appreciate life more. If I knew my grandmother would never die, I wouldn't call her every week to ask her how it was and tell her that I love her. I wouldn't be thankful for her if she wouldn't die, because I would take her existence for granted. Although she will have to suffer the pain of death soon, my appreciation of the simple fact that she's alive and my love for her, somehow, makes everything OK in the end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:28:23 2011 No.6810734 >>6810727 My waifu will never die, yet I love her more than any other woman. I won't ever take her for granted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:28:53 2011 No.6810731 >>6810727 Although i agree with this point it is sad that we only care right before we lose something dear to us..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:30:23 2011 No.6810738 >>6810734 Until you replace her with a new one, that is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:31:23 2011 No.6810741 >>6810738 I've known someone with the same waifu for almost 6 years. I'd say that's pretty great.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 15 08:35:54 2011 No.6810750 >>6810741 I've known someone with the same 3D wife for over 50 years until he died of a fatal aneurysm at the age of 82. My grandpa. I'd say that's pretty great!

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