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Your honest opinion of Beatrice the Golden.

>> No.6796066

Terrific villain, terrible character.

>> No.6796074
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>>6796066
>villain
>terrible character

you ignored the heart didn't you?

>> No.6796082

>>6796074

No, with villain i meant ep 1-3 Beatrice

>> No.6796085
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6796085

She's fun, whorish, but still elegant

>> No.6796090

Shannon with a broken penis who decided to explode everyone because she couldn't decide who she wanted to fuck

>> No.6796092

best. character. ever.

>> No.6796095

She was awesome, an elegant appearance but a trollish behaviour with some tsundere moments.

Pity she died in EP4 ;_;

>> No.6796102

Pretty cool in 1-4.

Boring in Chiru.

>> No.6796105

>>6796102

This

>> No.6796151
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6796151

I loved her trolling in ep3 and liked her chick version but beyond that she is simply meh.

>> No.6796152

>>6796095
>Pity she died in EP4 ;_;

wut

>> No.6796158

>>6796152

There is not Beato from that point onwards, a empty shell in EP5 and an aberration of what Beato was in EP6/8

>> No.6796164

I think R07 mistake with Beatrice character was to resurrect her in ep VI immediately at the start, albeit in a "new" version.. the moment she was resurrected you knew Beato was going to surface again.

>> No.6796176

>>6796151
I want cookies beato, NAOO!!!!

:<

>> No.6796178

>>6796064
Best character in the series. Yasu only makes her even better.

>> No.6796189

>>6796158
She was the same in eight as she was in the question arcs, just treated like shit because all the focus was on Ange.

>> No.6796193

My favorite episodes didn't really have Beatrice in them. (Ep1, Ep5.)

But, I noticed with ougon that I had missed the style that went by the wayside in chiru (Bern/lambda are no good, no good at all.)

>> No.6796203

mai waifu

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>>6796085

>> No.6796221

>>6796085
pic related

>> No.6796228

Ryukishi's mary sue. She dies and then automatically comes back, only to die again in EP 7 and then come back.

>> No.6796237

>>6796216
>>6796221

You mad? It's not like being slutty is bad thing all the time.

>> No.6796244
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6796244

Great as a villain, good as a love interest in EP3, but she soon turned into a shitty generic tsundere. She should have died forever in EP5 so that Battler could focus on Shannon once he found out about the truth.

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6796262

Best character in the series until Ryukishi07 decided killrevivekillrevivekill makes for good drama and generally shat all over her

>> No.6796294
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I miss this

>> No.6796310

>>6796294

Autism

>> No.6796326
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6796326

Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad. Battler-San is sad.

He'll come back on that pony.

>> No.6796338

>>6796326

Why is Battler such a dick?

>> No.6796339

>>6796244
>Beatrice
>Tsundere

???

>> No.6796348
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>>6796244
But, Shannon is far too mundane.

I mean, she was basically a side character until episode 7.

Hell, all of the non-meta characters are terrible until seven.

>> No.6796362

Best trolldere ever.

>> No.6796363

>>6796348
>Hell, all of the non-meta characters are terrible until seven.

Haha no

>> No.6796365

>>6796363
Yeah, they were still pretty terrible even after 7

>> No.6796366

>>6796348

>Hell, all of the non-meta characters are terrible until seven.

Take that back.

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>>6796366

>> No.6796377

I loved her in EP 1-5. Then further in the chiru arcs...She became less of an amazing character. To be honest To me the real Beato, the one we all kmow and loved officially died in EP5 and he ones in EP6 and beyond are just are Beato's that gain "memories" that is all.

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>>6796348

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>>6796371

>> No.6796394

>>6796382

Kyrie, you are awesome "Lolgold" or not.

Why the hell there aren't doujinshis about her?

>> No.6796395

>>6796365

The human characters are much more interesting characters than the majority of the meta characters (which half of them are bunch of useless, slutty fanservice material) I'll only agree if it's Bern, Lambda, Will, Lion, Virgilia & Ronove

>> No.6796403

>>6796395

>Bern
>Lion

No.


Captcha: money aiming

>> No.6796404

>>6796394

The same reason there aren't doujinshi about Eva.

Because Japan has shitty taste and would rather focus on Natsuhi the moe~~ MILF (Rosa is good though)

>> No.6796415

>>6796244
>but she soon turned into a shitty generic tsundere
What are you talking about? She was only tsundere once in the whole series, during the window scene in EP5.

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>>6796394
>Why the hell there aren't doujinshis about her?
By Senka of all people

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>>6796403

Implying Bern isn't a good character? she's the reason Chiru is bearable

>> No.6796430

>>6796427
BERN SO CRUEL, SO AWESOME XD

>> No.6796434

>>6796423

Is that suppose to be EP7 tea party SEN_KA style? interesting.

>> No.6796435

>>6796427

>Implying Bern isn't a good character. She's the reason Chiru is unbearable

ou made a couple of typoes, fixed for you.

>> No.6796438

>>6796423

Forgot about that. Man when will someone scan it?

I fucking love SEN_KA drawing.

>> No.6796445

>>6796382
>>6796389

I won't lie, this scared me

>> No.6796447

>>6796427

LOL BERN IS SO AWESUM COZ SHE DO EVIL THING AND TROLL YOU XDDDD I WANT BERN TO BE MAIN CHARACTER!!!!111!

>> No.6796449

>>6796445

How can you?

For some reason it made me want to hug her.

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>>6796348
Shannon had lots of potential, her problem was that she was stuck with the boring fatty in most of her scenes. Also, shrinking violets are superior to tsunderes in general.

>>6796415
The thing she did at the end of EP3 is a typical thing for bad tsunderes: Slowly build up towards becoming deredere, then become a tsuntsun bitch again at the last second just to drag out the story.

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>>6796435

Butthurt Beatofag

Chiru was a trainwreck, but at lest her and Erika made it fun.

Thought, i won't deny that Erika introduction was the moment the series became..this. But what a fun ride it was!

>> No.6796460

EP1-4 Beato is my metafictional waifu. Thank you Yasu (but you still suck)

>> No.6796462
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>>6796435
Lol butthurt. Bern was the best character in the entire Umineko series.

Show on the doll where she violated you, so we can laugh at you even more.

>> No.6796465

>>6796435

You sir, are fucking stupid.

I said Bern, B-e-r-n. I love Erika, Erika is what did Chiru bereable.

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>>6796430
>>6796435
>>6796447

pfft Haters.

>> No.6796469

Beatrice lost its appeal once I learned she is Shannon.
Also, how were we supposed to know shit about Yasu until ep4 when the first time we hear about him/her is in 5?
I still hope R07 is trolling the fanbase.

>> No.6796472

>Show on the doll where she violated you, so we can laugh at you even more.

wat? Learn what coherence means.

Oh well, it's to be expected from someone with such a shit taste.

>> No.6796477

>>6796468

pfft Lovers.

>> No.6796479

>>6796395
>thinks Bern, Ronove and Virgilia are characters with depth
Bern is only good in a single episode (seven) and Ronove and Virgilia are nice characters but have the depth of a puddle. Will and Lion were fine until EP8 and Lambda has a good amount of depth. Beatrice is better than all of them, though.

>> No.6796482

>>6796465

Bern>>>>>>>>Erika

Erika was only good to be humiliated by Bern. Bern on the other hand managed to troll everyone around her and got away in the end of the game withouth a scratch

>> No.6796484

>>6796479

Will and Lion aren't much deeper than Ronove and Virgilia. Their personalities are pretty plain.

>> No.6796485

>>6796469
>Also, how were we supposed to know shit about Yasu until ep4 when the first time we hear about him/her is in 5?


You don't need to know he feel from a cliff and broke his dick, dumpass

That Kinzo had a chain of Beatos going on was obvious from day 1

>> No.6796487

>>6796453
>The thing she did at the end of EP3 is a typical thing for bad tsunderes: Slowly build up towards becoming deredere, then become a tsuntsun bitch again at the last second just to drag out the story.
That's not tsundere

>> No.6796488

>>6796482

And? it doesn't make her interesting. Her trolling is the most boring thing ever, it gets old in a second.

>> No.6796489

>>6796482
>withouth a scratch
Battler made Bern his bitch, to the point where Featherinne had to apologize for her to spare her any more humiliation.

>> No.6796492

>>6796484
They have actual motivations and character arcs, though. Something Bern, Virgilia and Ronove lack.

>> No.6796493

>>6796479

Point still stands The human characters are better than most of the meta characters with the expections of a few characters (Erika, Beato, etc..)

Then again its not that hard to be a deeper character than the stakes in all, the siesta and the Iron maidens (minus Dlanor)

>> No.6796499
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>>6796484

But they are awesome!

Too bad episode 8 shat all over Lion and Clair story

>> No.6796500

>>6796493
The Iron Maidens are fine once you read Cornelia's TIP. The stakes and siestas are pretty fucking useless.

>> No.6796501

>>6796482
Erika has character, Bern is just a bitch with a few irritated faces throughout chiru

>> No.6796503

>>6796487
Would you prefer it if I said "unlikable bitch"? They're pretty much synonyms, after all.

>> No.6796505

>>6796489

Please, that was nothing. Bern in the end still got to laugh and mess around with Lambda

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>>6796501

Bern has an entire game for her

>> No.6796511

>>6796505
So did everyone else. So it's not like Bern did anything important going by those guidelines. She failed at everything she tried to accomplish except for one episode and that ended up being unimportant to everyone by the time EP8 rolled around. I wanted her to be a good villain, but she was pathetic. Even her game was lame.

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6796514

I don't know how i feel about Umineko anymore.

One minute i hate it, one i think it was a fun ride, another i love it and i accept event the ending.

What's wrong with me?

>> No.6796516

>>6796508
and she still has no character other than being the same old bitch

>> No.6796522

awesome character and one of the best in the vn, god awful vessel in shkannon the worst possible one too factoring in the trainwreck chiru was

>> No.6796529

I've always preferred the human characters a lot better than the meta ones with the exception of Virgilia, Ronove and ep 1-4 Beato.

What irks me the most about Bernkastel is that Ryu pulled another Higurashi on us, I'm getting sort of tired of RIKA HIJACK plots.

>> No.6796537

>>6796529

Too bad Rika didn't hikacj Higurasho novels, read them faggot.

>> No.6796538

>>6796529
>What irks me the most about Bernkastel is that Ryu pulled another Higurashi on us, I'm getting sort of tired of RIKA HIJACK plots.

Pretty much this. I hate how she got more of an end than most of the characters when she is not even a Umineko character per se.

The they in "When they cry" series is Rika.

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Lambda is the best witch.

Fuck Bern

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>>6796539

That's not how you say Evatrice.

>> No.6796545

>>6796538
>The they in "When they cry" series is Rika.

Again, "Rika" wasn't the focus of Kai like the anime made it be.

Ep V MC was Shion
Ep VI MC were K1 and Rena
Ep VII MC were Rika AND K1. He got as much story as Rika
Ep VIII mc were Takano and Hanyuu, but everyone got a decent amount of focus at some point.


The only Rika-novel was Rei, but it makes sense since it was about giving closure to Rika character

>> No.6796550

>>6796539


Cake

>> No.6796557

>>6796550

Go read Ep8, spoilerfag.

>> No.6796565
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>>6796539
this. 34 is best, meta-winner. real winner is okonogi.

pic:
i'm haven't gone crazy right??
i've escaped.
you guys are real .......and i'm not talking to furniture.........................right?

>> No.6796635

>>6796395
This. Also Dlanor.

In fact, I preferred the real to the meta overall. dat delicious gray morality

>> No.6796637

>>6796539

I'd frost that cake if you know what I mean

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>>6796539
Mhmmm

>> No.6797472
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I really liked the idea of Beatrice as a cumulative concept, held up by many people, that gains existence and sentience.

If anyone has read the non-fiction book, I Am a Strange Loop, it's also really cool that Beatrice could be seen as a sort of self-perpetuating higher consciousness of Yasu. And this leads her into joining the realm of Bern and Lambda. Then when you get into the Dante's Inferno references and such, she's an awesome character.

>> No.6797528

>>6796469
Battler's sin is mentioned.
The whole pony thing.
Shannon and Beatrice seem to have some special relationship, shown even before her relationship with Maria is shown.
Shannon is shown to have knowledge of the occult.

>> No.6799047

>>6796488

So? You people only loved Beato in ep1-4 because of her TROLLING AHAHA.WAV!!!! yet hate Bern because she does the same?

>> No.6799073

I love Beato as a character but I just can't see her the same way after we got to know about Yasu. I only like the whole character more this way, but I wish Ryu let Beatrice die for good after Yakusoku scene and let us see the real Yasu afterwards.

>> No.6799078

>>6797528
There's also that One-Winged Eagle tattoo that suit-Beato and Shannon share. I'd always thought it was too obvious to be a clue, huh.

>> No.6799119

Guys, I know this is not entirely related to the thread, but is there a sprite pack of EP8 out there already?
Thanks in advance.

>> No.6799133

>>6799119
Or some sort of BGM compilation.

>> No.6799321

>>6799119
>>6799133
Not that I know of. I had to rip the sprites myself when I needed one.

>> No.6799375

>>6796488

Beato displayed a wide range of emotions between "ahaha.wav" plus her trolling was changing according to the ocassion.
Bern is only "I'm cruel I fuck everything" or just bored.

My problem is not she trolls, is that she is boring while doing it.

>> No.6799402

I actually really liked Beatrice as a character, at least how she was in the first 4 Episodes. She actually seemed like a fun kind of woman, what with the trolling, laid back attitude, etc.

Aside from the whole "watching your family die over and over" thing she had going with Battler, she actually has quite a likable personality to me.

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Beato is one of my all-time favourite characters of all fiction. Even including her Yasu part, though her episodes 1-4 self is the best.

>> No.6799442

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>> No.6799453

>>6796064
...Pointless. Meta or not aspects, while she has a glorious presence, it ends up feeling far too shallow.

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