/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

I finished Umineko 8 just now, 4chan.

Not enough tear were shed.

Fuck you for taking my heart and stomping it into a million piece 07.

[Anonymous No.]

episode 8 is like eating 6 servings of grain every day

it may not kill you but it will damage you severely

[Anonymous No.]

I

fuck ;____;

[Anonymous No.]

Translation:
I've waited for you, Battlerrr.

I'm sorry. I was a bit late at coming here.

Why are you sitting on a wheelchair?
Here, I'm giving you a hand, get yourself together.

As she was walking, she presented her hand to Battler who was sitting on the wheelchair.
Battler... slowly... gripped that hand, and... slowly... stood up.

I...

Listen... here, all of us have finally met again.
Tonight, the Golden Land revives here.

Without stopping, the clapping blessed Battler.

Everyone was there.
Everyone. Everyone. Everyone.

And then, Beato hugged Battler.
Stronger and stronger, as if never parting with him again, she hugged him.

You really... came back.

I'm back... late, though.

I... won't let you go again.

Indeed. I won't let you go away either.

We'll be together... forever.

[Anonymous No.]

OP, can you confirm the Bern = cat and Lamda = cake thing?

[Anonymous No.]

"Without stopping, the clapping blessed Battler.
Everyone was there.
Everyone. Everyone. Everyone."

Congratulations Battler!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6730900
>>6730972

[Anonymous No.]

>>6730981

[Anonymous No.]

Soo... what do the coins do? I got like five of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6730969
>>6730981
EVA-ANGE-LION

Fuck this shit, this is now a F/SN thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731021
>EVA-ANGE-LION

Christ. I'm glad I got out in the middle of Ep 4. Looks like everything was downhill from there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731021
I'm OK with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731069

WTC5 is going to be an eroge if he wants his fans back

[Anonymous No.]

Can anyone confirm/deny if it's true that Lambda is really a cake?

[Anonymous No.]

I know Umineko is a fiction but why you have to deny their right to exist in fiction world too, Ryuuuuuu??!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731069
How about Fate on Fate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731133
this and could someone confirm the thing with Berncat? I thought Rika was originally Bern and then changed to a certain degree, because she met K1, Satoko etc. If Bern is actual a cat, wouldn´t that also make Rika one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731148
The idea is that the existence of Higurashi is just like in our world.

It's just a story, Battler even claimed to have read it in EP2, if memory serves me. Keiichi, Rika, and the others are also merely fiction within fiction.

But there's totally love in Umineko. Totally.

[Anonymous No.]

[red]Battler is dead[/red]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731192

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731192
He "dies" because he gets amnesia and forgets that he's Battler, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731192

The personality of Battler is dead, his body is still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731210

Christ, I don't think it could get any worse even if Jun Maeda wrote it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731213
and what if they develop a new medicine against amnesia?

[Anonymous No.]

So I've never read ep. 7. Just installed it yesterday. Is it worth finishing everything or should I just forget it ever existed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731222

Read it. Despite what anyone says, its the last good episode before the clusterfuck that is 8.

[Anonymous No.]

So poor Jessica really died?
FUCK YOU, R07.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731222
Read, then learn moonspeak, then read EP8 and hog off this entire whining-about-spoilers crap, people say it has the best Meta fights but the ending gives some people slight discomfort in their nether regions.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got to the cake part.

Do the different slices actually mean anything?

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731230

Every episode since 4 has been described as a right clusterfuck and god damn awful to some degree for whatever reason.

EP4 had Ange.

Ep5 had Erika.

EP6 had more Erika and fucktons of angst.

EP7 didn't deliver on a trolltastic game and had Kyrie culprit. Also Shkanontrice.

All of these things received complaints at one point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731148

It's just a story. None of it ever happened. Isn't it sad?

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731166

So...Higurashi is fiction to Battler, who is fiction to us? Does that mean R07 isn't real, since he wrote Higurashi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731166

THE SIMPSONS MAKES REFERENCES TO STAR WARS THUS STARS WARS IS A FICTION IN A FICTION MAKING EVERYTHING POINTLESS HERP A DERP DERP

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731238
If it's a roulette type game, one of them has a golden coin, or some similar shit within a piece. That's a common game with old people and Japs.

[Anonymous No.]

So if this trend of the previous installment of WTC being fiction in the current installment keeps up, then Higurashi will be a work of fiction contained in a work of fiction contained in yet another work of fiction.

In other words, the protagonist of the next WTC will read about the story of Battler, a fictional author who wrote about the time he read a book titled Higurashi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731267
Troll harder, a more accurate representation would be if George Lucas ever made anything worthwhile outside of Star Wars, and the characters within that world are reading a Star Wars book, or some other situation where its existence is trivialized by its own creator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731277

Because Higurashi and Umienko are so totally connected together outside of some stupid cat and cake. Totally.

I'm starting to see why R07 is trolling everyone now.

[Anonymous No.]

"Ushiromiya Battler. I will now...kill you. And right now, there is no one other than you on this island. The only one alive on this island is you."

jesus fuckign crist

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty amazing how a simple ending managed to ruin an entire series for me.

It just feels... cheap, really. There's no resolution whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731300
Maybe that's foreshadowing the bomb. I have no clue.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731267

I believe my comment went above your head. With all the mindfuckery that's been going on in this series, I wouldn't be all that surprised if R07 was just a figment of his own imagination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731243
sad for Rika, sad for Battler and sad for me, because i will never hang out with Bronove and Lambda ;__;

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731301

He wrote it all to promote Ougon Musou Kyoku. 4 years in the making for that damn fighting game...I'm telling ya, he had this all planned out.

Oh, and there is going to be a sort of wrap-up at C80. I forget what it's called, it was named in another thread somewhere.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731314

I hang out with Bern all the time, so never say that.

[Anonymous No.]

The more I think about this ending the more I don't mind it. It's shit, I know, but I don't entirely hate the part that's been posted here, with Beatrice and old Battler offing themselves. It's the most depressing thing I'll get without my fucking hobo end, and I did ask for this to be soul-crushingly depressing, so it worked.

[Anonymous No.]

So it is as bad as the spoilers foretold or there is still some grace saving this EP from the trainwreck?

[Anonymous No.]

Anyway, I find it funny that people are disregarding the Meta World characters (which they seem to love) in favor of "real world" Battler, who is really just a fucking new character at the end. I don't know him, I don't give a shit about him and his amnesia.

It goes both ways, I'm disregarding him and embracing the Meta World.

In fact, this ties in with what he was always pushing in the story. Love and fantasy. Embellishments and beauty that don't really exist except in our wishes. By providing a completely mundane ending, this is his last ditch attempt to make his readers realize how beautiful things are even if they're not real.

Because seriously, who gives a shit about the real world by this point? Ryukishi's been trying his damnedest to hide everything and make people care about the characters in a supposed "mystery".

So yeah, I can understand why he did this, and as for me, he succeeded with it.


The answer wasn't really important.

At least, that was the agenda he was pushing near the end. Problem is he stated that this was a mystery, when he was trying to push for fantasy. I'm sure he has some retarded reason for doing it this way, but it backfired on him badly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731342
Yeah, I agree with you on that. The characters we grew attached to were meta Battler and Beatrice, the original trolly Beato we knew in the question arcs, not that Moetrice and Eldertrice shit.

I hate that Ryukishi has pushed the idea that magic is bullshit and love is magic and love is bullshit and we end up with exactly that as our answer. Go through seven games tearing it apart only to hear that you worked for nothing. We should have stopped thinking. I'm bitter as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731317
>Oh, and there is going to be a sort of wrap-up at C80
When i thought this couldnt get any worse...
It will be like Saikoroshi i presume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6730892
Umineko ended with EP4, its so sad Ryu died before he could make anymore and with that the mystery will never be solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731322
your lol fantasies won't improve my situation, Bernguy who's emmitting a creepy feeling since he posted the stuff about Bern being alive in his mind in that other thread a while ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731310

My comment wasn't aimed at you, it was aimed at all the dumb fucknuts going on in this topic about HIGURASHI IS NOT A REAL WORLD BECAUSE THERE WAS A REFERENCE TO IT IN AN KINDA RELATED BUT NOT REALLY WORK BAAAAAW LOVE IS OVER R07 like the retarded faggots they are.

Just how the fuck does Umineko's ending has any bearing on Higurashi if they don't even take place in the same goddamned world? Are people honestly that stupid to believe in something like that?

[Anonymous No.]

If BT didn't die, would things really be any different?

[Anonymous No.]

IT FUCKING AMAZES ME

IT'S LIKE YOU'VE ALL READ EP8 INSTEAD OF READING SPOILERS

IT'S GOING TO BE EP7 ALL OVER AGAIN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731365
At this point, I think they would be. I wish Ryu would have taken a break and thought this out. What the fuck is the shit that we got. You can either think it's good, or be sane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731368
What about the people who have played it and thought it was shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731372
Well, Ryu did "lose the joy of writing".

Maybe he'll quit after the final installment of Umineko, so that he can take time to grieve properly and move on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731365
We would have gotten an awesome ending where Battler fucks Bern's shit up, kicks reason to the curb, and gets his family (or at least him and Ange) a happy ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731368
This, my god.

You think that the fourth time this shit happens people would get a clue and realize that spoilers don't give the overall picture.

[Anonymous No.]

It just bothers me because it feels like Battler gave up on searching for a happy ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731377
You really think people have read the episode? On /jp/?

Come on. This is all a spoiler shitfest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731390
And by read, I mean fully read it and understood it completely without ATLAS.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh wow.
Ryu is the very first writer to string me along and betray my trust.

He said they'd be a good end.

How is this good?

Why would you do that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731385
Ange will be alone again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731396
read >>6730969

While watching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YyVpNKA7vs

Because this is the ending. Bitch tears, man.

[Anonymous No.]

Started reading a little while ago. The first chapter was hilarious, and I demand to see "Nanjo was Kinzo's wife all along" 4-komas now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731396
>He said they'd be a good end.

He didn't. In fact he said the opposite: Umineko wouldn't necessarily have a happy ending.

And it didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731406
>I demand to see "Nanjo was Kinzo's wife all along" 4-komas now.

This. I laughed out loud when Krauss thought that to himself.

[Anonymous No.]

he's gone insane.

any of you guys reading his new manga?
It's about a fucking loli getting molested by her teacher, then being strangled to death by him and chuced into the sewer full of shit and the guy laughs and smiles at how the little loli is all covered in shit.

ryu's lost his marbles.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok guys, just tell me with all the words
What happened? Who was trying to kill everyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731389
Well, there's Will. But he seems focused on doing it by saving Lion, not our Beatrice. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731414
his beloved BT died, what do you expect? even Kinzo became autistic while Beato was gone

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731415

From what I've gathered, it was basically the same scenario as EP7. Yasu intended to kill everyone if they didn't solve the epithet, but Kyrie solved it pretty quickly, so Yasu didn't get the chance to do so. Kyrie and Rudolf then proceeded to kill everyone else so they could have the gold to themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731424
Also, Rosa Musou Mk. II.

Rosa died, but she took down Rudolf and Kyrie by herself. I'm not sure if she had a gun, but it'd be even more badass if she didn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731436
Eva and Ange apparently confirmed for Mother and Daughter team of the year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731415

I've been taking notes across the threads and have gathered (making no claims about truth):

1. Yasu attempted to enact her plan (I imagine that's epitaph-solving + murder) but Kyrie and Rudolph beat her to the chase.
2. Kyrie/Rudolph opted to take the gold for themselves. They killed everyone and planned to put the gold on the submarine and leave. Bomb was armed to destroy the evidence.
3. Battler was sent to kill Shannon to prove his loyalty, but he warned her instead and faked her death.
4. Rosa confronts Kyrie + Rudolph, kills them but dies herself.
5. Shannon commits suicide.
6. Bomb blows up, Battler is safe elsewhere and loses his memory of the event.
7. Battler/Ikuko Yoshiro (the writer behind Tohya/AuAu) fabricates the stories of the witch killings to hide the truth from Ange. They write under the pen name of Hachijo Tohya.
8. Battler/Tohya write the stories together as they try and repair Battler's memory to find the truth of what really happened (above).

I guess the first few novels encountered in the real world (the ones sent by 'Maria Ushiromiya' in bottles) were Yasu's. Tohya (Battler+Ikuko) wrote the ones after that, and the last few episodes were written by Battler himself as he arrived at the truth? Meh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731424
Did they follow the epitaph and do closed room stuff at least? Or was all the closed room mystery stuff in the previous chapters completely pointless to the actual events?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731447

The epitaph was just a puzzle leading to gold. It's never been anything else. Yasu might have wanted to set them up as a series of closed rooms (thinking herself a witch), but I doubt Kyrie/Rudolph wasted their time on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731454
NO MYSTERY
NO CLOSED ROOM
AMNESIA ONLY
FINAL DESTINATION?

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of liked erika as she trolled the fuck out of everyone, stuff like "how do I know they're all dead? because I went and kiled them all myself! ahahahahaha"
But after that it was IT CANT BE SEEN WITHOUT LOVE then HERES A CHARACTER THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO SOLVING THE CRIMES THAT YOUVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE OH WAIT YOU DID BUT THERES NOTHING TO INDICATE THAT [SPOILER]LION IS SHANNON[/SPOILER] AND!! [SPOILER]KANNON[/SPOILER] IN THE FIRST FOUR GAMES

The first four games were interesting because of the interaction between battler and beatrice as well as the community trying to solve the crimes and mysteries, but then R07 decides to turn it into a romance or something while claiming that it isn't a mystery or something like that.

I've read up to and through ep7, but I really haven't felt that interested for a while now.

[Anonymous No.]

At least Battler finds out the truth in the end?

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, man.

This fan art is so fitting now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731439

I wonder if the sucky 1998 situation is canon? I hope not. Even without her brother, Ange should be happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731474
It isn't, Ange is a bestselling author of books about Sakutarou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731464

It was never a mystery.

Which is why so many people will hate this ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731482

At least there's my sweet in the bittersweet.

Real Battler should at least try to reunite with his remaining family though.

Did we find out what made Yasu snap in the intervening years?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731467
F-for some reason, looking at that picture while listening to lastendconductor makes me want to cry. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

HEY GUYS


WHAT THE FUCK IS BATTLER'S SIN, WHO THE FUCK IS BATTLER'S MOM?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731512
Forgetting Yasu and Kyrie

[Anonymous No.]

So does anyone have any info about why Erika saved Ange and teamed up with her latter?

[Anonymous No.]

Did Yasu and Battler really have a romance in the few days they've been together?

Seems that way at least. Old Battler is really hung up on Beatrice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731512
Irrelevant to the story, like over half the other content.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is erika back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731540

Not only that, but she teams up with Ange.

WHY? HOW?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm trying to ctrl through the episode, but I'm stuck here. Who am I supposed to click? I'm trying various combinations but I keep hearing ahaha.wav play after each failed one.

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking hell Ryukishi, I'm upset.

As a small example, you decide to explain away the batshit involving Jessica as LOL AMNESIA, along with the entire plot.

Lazy fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731548
Battler, Kyrie, Rudolf, despite the fact that Battler has killed no one. Ryukishi forgot that red truth, or maybe red never fucking mattered to begin with, who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731548

I think that's where you pick the culprits.
(Kyrie + Rudolf + Battler)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731543
It's magic, I don't gotta explain shit uu~

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731548
Rudolph, Kyire, and Battler

[Anonymous No.]

BATTLER is the culprit?
WASN'T IT SAID MULTIPLE TIMES IN RED THAT HE WASN'T?!
I'm probably taking this out of context, fucking spoilers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731554
>explain away the batshit involving Jessica

Moon-chan fags have no right to complain about anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731572
He didn't kill anyone. He was forced to be an accomplice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731556
>>6731557
>>6731560

So....why Kyrie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731575

What this guy said.

It seems like it isn't so much Battler vs. Ange in the future (though Ange does survive), but Ange is presently fighting Battler to find out what actually happened on Rokkenjima.

Anyways random translations:

>The definition of "Culprit" is one who murdered.
>There is a possibility that the culprit lied.
>There is also a possibility that the culprit lied before committing the murder.
>The characters that are not the culprit will only speak the truth.
>The characters that are not the culprit will not assist the culprit.
>The culprit commits all the acts of murder by their own hands.
>The culprit will not die.
>The culprit is one of the characters who have appeared so far.
>The Purple Words have the same weigh as the Red Truth. However, only the culprit will lie using the Purple.

Assorted bits of translated Purple:
"Maria-chan can't kill anyone."
"George-oniichan also can't kill adults. Although he can kill kids."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731585

What's her motive I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731587
Purple?
There's purple text now?

[Anonymous No.]

What fights are in ep 8? who between who? how many?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731585
Money no really as of right now that's the only fucking explanation for Kyrie and Rudolf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731573
I'm not a Moon-chan fag, the whole plot point about Jessica and Yasu was one that at the very least should have been addressed, and wasn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731534
>>6731512
And what the fuck is with this?
He makes such a big deal out of this then seems to forget about this plot point entirely.

Okay so asumu isn't battler's real mother.
Then who is?!
Except it doesn't have anything to do with a damn thing making this plot point entirely unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731594
Tons between everybody.

Pretty much every single character makes an appearance and fights someone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>amnesia as a plot device at the end of a series
Definitely not reading this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731603

Kyrie obviously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731604

Any details? Does Lam do a bit of fighting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731587
>"George-oniichan also can't kill adults. Although he can kill kids."

This makes me think that inaccurate statements can be said by people who aren't the culprit. It's not "lieing", because the person who said it really believes that is the truth. Maria doesn't know that George studied martial arts cause of his mom. Plus, it's highly unlikely that George couldn't kill Kumasawa, at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731623
She fights Auau and gets defeated by her and dies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731603
Did you read anything at all? Rudolph tells basically tells Kyrie in episode 7 that she is really Battlers Mother. Battlers sin is returning to the island, because it put Shannon between a rock and a hard place which eventually led to the murders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731603
>He makes such a big deal out of this then seems to forget about this plot point entirely.
>Okay so asumu isn't battler's real mother.
>Then who is?!
Stop this. Kyrie is Battler's mom. If you pay attention you knew this by episode 4. If you didn't really you knew this by episode 7. If you are super retarded even you should get it by episode 8.

After that I don't know what to say.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731627

She gets turned into delicious cake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731599
It was never a plot point. Jessica is just dumb. Get over it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731627

Auau? Maria? Featherinne?

Pardon my ignorance, I've only read up to a bit of epiosde 6.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731612
Why must /jp/ faggotrize themselves more everytime a new episode spoilers come out? Read the fucking thing, this is like the 4th time people baawww about the chapter's spoilers and after they read the chapter it turns out awesome, EP8 may have a downer ending (which isn't the final part of Umineko since the aftermath is being written by R07 atm), but the meta fights are incredibly awesome, see it like this:

The meta world could of been an alternate transition that helped Battler's thoughts, sort of like the transition between the Ange-Hachijo and piece!Ange-Featherine, except more Meta. We only read a slight portion of the ''behind the scenes'', and this sort of reveal is not uncommon to Umineko, as everything will be (hopefully) resolved by the time Rei/Aftermath comes out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731660
Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

Did someone upload the soundtrack yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731651
>It was never a plot point. Everyone in Umineko is just dumb. Get over it.

Let's not discriminate here. Shkanontrice, despite being true, involves everyone being a total fucking autist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731689
Too bad all the closed room murders never happened and don't mean shit in the overall scheme of things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731689
Most likely everyone felt sorry for Yasu.
Jessica included.

George, being the kind and alpha as fuck motherfucker, decided to let Yasu choose between him and Battler, sadly, he forgot about the Sumadera scum.

[Anonymous No.]

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ?!

[Anonymous No.]

What's the answer to Gohda's puzzle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731689
Just so you know, there's a scene in EP8 where Shannon and Kanon appear together in front of every family member at once, including Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731713
And Kinzo is alive, bouncing around kissing his grandkids.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of the puzzles, I wonder how they're going to translate them?

From what I've seen, some of them require some knowledge on Japanese (like the mackerel puzzle)

[Anonymous No.]

Well I guess the only satisfying comeuppance will be in the fighting game:

Battler lifting Bern by her scruff and pawnch

[Anonymous No.]

Actually, when you think about it they could be factors in determining Battler's memories about his past, despite there being millions of outcomes, each locked room acts like a ''key'', if you read each chapter you can see that the struggle of solving each closed room is Battler/whoever is being challenged's attempts of twisting the logic into a humanly possible act. The ''witch'' part means that such outcome could only be done by magic which means that it's not real, therefore not the real Truth. The battles act both as a metaphoric memory refresher and a possibility elimination.

[Anonymous No.]

Man, I cant think of Umineko without feeling angry anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731717
>Kinzo is alive
>kissing his grandkids.

I wouldn't put it past Kinzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731719
While this is unlikely, they might give us clues using their green text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731677

http://www.mediafire.com/?dnoso3h8v1ixcf5

When does LastEndConductor play? It's awesome.

[۩Arcueid Brunestud۩ !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

Umineko 8:

POP POP POP

WATCHING MOTHER FUCKAS DROP

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731723

Wait, is Bern a confirmed character?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731749
Dead link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731724

Battler ascending to the Golden Sorcerer is his subconscious finally reaching the truth. Old Battler knows it's there but can't reach it yet, hence the following episodes and Ange wanting to know the truth. Golden Sorcerer Battler is desperately locking it away because it's traumatic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731761
She has a portrait

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731770

http://www.youtube.com/user/Trollkastel

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731771

>Dread of The Grave

Battler is afraid he's going to die before reaching the truth of Rokkenjima.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731761

She's an artifact. She has a portrait and by the looks of it was a character planned for release (you can only see the portrait due to a bug or glitch in the memory), but it looks like they might make room for some of the other characters, which may include those introduced in Chiru.

>>6731723

Don't be mad just because Bern's the best character...although Battler's moveset is kind of cruel. He can grope himself, Kanon, and Ronove, as well as punch his sister in the face. I don't know why that's so funny, but it just is.

Then again, Ange bitch-slapping ANYONE is funny.

[Anonymous No.]

So uh
Has Berncat and Lambdacake been confirmed yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731835
you´re like the 10th person asking that in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

You're asspained over THIS? really?

Everything has been meta as fuck since the ep1 tea party and you mad because there was no literal truth to each episode?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731835
I got your confirmation right here
*grabs dick*

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731835

Yes. Bern gets her ass kicked by Battler and co. Turns into a cat.

Lamda gets her ass kicked by AuAu, turned into a cake.

Everyone lives happily ever after in the Meta World.

Hooray!

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731858

What bothers me is why exactly does Battler believe that this cake and cat are lesbian loli witches sent to make his life a living hell? I can understand that he might not like cats, but what did the cake ever do to him? It's just a god damn cake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731865
Two words

Small Bombs

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731865
Lambda was on Battler's side, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

So, wait, if Bern and Lambda are just figments of Battler's imagination...

Does that mean Higurashi never even happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>will headbutting a goat to death
>what the fuck am i reading.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

Dude, it's been confirmed ages ago when Battler and Bern both said they had read a novel called Higurashi.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731872

For the majority of the story it seemed like she wasn't. So...the cake lied to the cat, or something.

Did R07 get ridiculously drunk and decide to play Portal? Seriously, that's the only reason why I would think he'd make Lambda into a cake. Well, given her style of dress, it kind of makes sense, but it's still ridiculous.

>>6731876

In the world of Umineko, Higurashi is a series of mystery novels (actual books) that Battler had read sometime before returning to the island.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731876

Higurashi has no relation to Umineko other than the story Battler read.

In the Umineko world, Higurashi is a book. But only in the Umineko world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731876

Maybe. Who cares? It's just fiction in the end. Don't get too worked up about it. Doesn't really add anything except a meaningless layer of fictionality.

This is why I don't really care or give a fuck about Old Battler and his memories. The Meta World is still real, and everyone loved happily ever after now that the board is closed.

Anyway, is AuAu Battler's enemy here? Her kicking Lamda's ass effortlessly is scary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731876
Does that really make everything horrible?

Consider every story you've ever read. If at the end of each of those, the final scene was some guy typing it out, satisfied with his work. As in, everything you just read was a story written by the only featured character in the book, this nameless author.

Would that spoil those stories?

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731888

She's a god.

Wait, does she even exist as anything? Lambda's a cake, and Bern's a cat. So what is Auau supposed to be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731892
In a fictional work, who is god? The author of said fictional work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731892

Old Battler's lover/caretaker/nurse

[Anonymous No.]

>MFW fags are trying to twist a trashy amnesia ending into something deep.

[Bern !FAGetWqs1I No.]

>>6731895

And I thought Yasu was crazy. This ending seems more of an asspull the more I hear of it. Wasn't this supposed to be solvable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731889
I think it does ruin them.

The reason it ruins them is the same reason canon sex is far hotter than any amount of fanwork sex.

[Incestfan !pWKInCESTY No.]

Umineko died with BT.
I will now look for Frederika pictures on pixiv.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731892
Ikuko wrote herself into the story.

[Anonymous No.]

Christ, I hate how people keep comparing/trying to tie Higurashi and Umineko together. Even now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731526
Basically, the game Battler designed for Ange wasn't to show her the truth of how everyone died, but to help her remember the kind aspects of her family. Ange throws a tantrum, says fuck this shit, and basically throws her lot in with Erika, Bern, Auau, and summons a horde of goats on Battler, Beatrice, and their friends. Huge battle ensues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731902
Umineko is not a myster

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731928
...wow what a fucking ungrateful bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

My money on Ikuko being Yasu.

[Anonymous No.]

So basically Umineko was the bastard child of Inception and Silent Hill, which was conveniently tossed off a cliff and raised by Chrono Cross.

God, I'm depressed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731928

Now that's the sort of ridiculous grand finale I want in an ending.

How did it go?

>>6731902

That's deliberate. Yasu weaved tales and made herself a witch because she lost Battler, and he's now doing the same to recover her along with his lost memory.

Pretty sure that if I can read moon the ending would make me baaaw.

[Anonymous No.]

Come on Japan,

I'm waiting for my TohyaxBattler fanart.

[Anonymous No.]

Just watched the new motion graphic, and I felt oddly tearful during it. The artist should release some sort of art book when s/he is finished with seacats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731902
The culprits are theoretically possible to figure out (even if you have to brush some red truth under the rug and/or skew the hell out of major plot points). The rest of the ending really has nothing to do with the mystery, and is just ryu finding a way to kill off all of the meta-characters in one fell-swoop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731961
Dlanor, Ronove, and Will in particular being awesome, (Will beating down goats by headbutting them ffffff), Battler vs Erika to the new Dread of the Grave remix, Ange vs Beato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731976
>Dlanor, Ronove, and Will in particular being awesome
Are those three ever not awesome?

[Myshkin !hQkb7UnWrk No.]

>>6731928
Wait, and why were people calling game Battler a douche? He seems to be doing the good thing here while Ange is being a total whore.

[Anonymous No.]

ROSA MUSOU
MOTHERFUKCERS
ROSA MUSOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731990
It's always been fun to insult Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay Beato vs Ange is pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731976

Fuckin Ace. SO after the big battle, we get to choose Magic or Trick, and then find out the truth?

Kinda sucks that the Meta World characters didn't get a proper closure but oh well.

>>6731990

Because she (us, and Old Battler) wanted to know the truth.

And then we got it and it was fucking depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

Ange: I want the truth!
Battler: The truth? You can't handle the truth!

[Anonymous No.]

You know, while she was never a favorite of mine, I always understood Ange and defended her when people would hate on her.

Not after this. Fuck Ange.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732039
I'm actually surprised at how fucked up Ryukishi made Ange in this ep. I feel bad for her, but hoo boy is she fucked up. She admits she wants to know the truth so she can die, so I can't blame Battler for hiding it and trying to show her something positive instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732039
>>6732047
The best part is once Ange learns the truth if you choose trick she kills herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732047
Dude, Ange was always fucking hardcore.

[Myshkin !hQkb7UnWrk No.]

>>6731976
So Dlanor, Will and Battler are on the same side?
That is fucking awesome. R07, how did you fuck this all up. How.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732047
Awww, Battler.

>"I won't let Ange die!! No matter how painful it is, she has to live! That's our single wish...!! If you're alive, you can create any kind of magic, any miracle...!!"

[Anonymous No.]

Goddamn, I was expecting:

-Final climactic magic firefight battle like 40k Apocalypse

-Battler beating the shit out of Bern

-Alternate world where truth is discovered. Family is already dead. Bat and Ange move on.

-Meta Battler and Beato's entourage explore the meta world together. Righting wrongs, fighting crime

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck every single one of you. She might have messed up, but she just wanted the truth.

I will always and forever love you, Ange. Even if you are suicidal.

[Anonymous No.]

>-Battler beating the shit out of Bern

I don't get you people. Shouldn't you want him to beat the shit out of Yasu? Bern just says the truth - cruel, but true. She never has actually harmed someone actively.

Yasu? Killed 15+ people and everyone mourns him/her.

You guys are fucking nuts sometimes. Bern's not the main enemy. Get it into your head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732097

>-Final climactic magic firefight battle like 40k Apocalypse

>-Battler beating the shit out of Bern

>-Alternate world where truth is discovered. Family is already dead. Bat and Ange move on.

You get all of that in some form or other.

>-Meta Battler and Beato's entourage explore the meta world together. Righting wrongs, fighting crime

This one just happens off screen. Believe in magic Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732113
Well, Bern DOES seem to enjoy being a monster more than is entirely healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

so how long is the episode?

[Anonymous No.]

Welp, I guess that's it then. It was a fun ride while it lasted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732153
Well said, for a cotton-for-brains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732147
Fucking long. It took me a good hour and a half to speed text through it. I imagine that if you weren't spoiled on who the culprits are it would be even longer after engaging in all of the optional Battler/Beatrice meta-discussion. I wish I had waited until the English patch came out and stopped myself from reading the spoilers. It looks like this part would have been an absolute blast to work out.

To be honest, most of the book looks really fucking awesome. That ending just really gets to me. It won't stop me from enjoying the hell out of the rest of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732113
>Yasu? Killed 15+ people and everyone mourns him/her.

No, she didn't. She's killed no one.

[Anonymous No.]

So it's longer than Matsuribayashi? Because that was seriously fucking long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732136
She's a cat. Ever seen cats play with mice?

[Anonymous No.]

There's nothing wrong with wanting the truth, because with a good writer, that brings resolution and closure.

Alas, Battler and Ange's only grave sins were being created by an incompetent, scatterbrained writer. In a good mystery writers hands, Battler would have fallen from grace, and Ange would have been right in pursuing the truth, rather than written as some kind of anti-hero.

Remember that, Ryukishi wanted Battler to look like the good guy for hiding the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

So purple text and golden coins confirmed?
Anyone have the solution for the puzzles?

[Anonymous No.]

There's nothing wrong with wanting the truth, because with a good writer, that brings resolution and closure.

Alas, Battler and Ange's only grave sins were being created by an incompetent, scatterbrained writer. In a good mystery writers hands, Battler would not have fallen from grace, and Ange would have been right in pursuing the truth, rather than written as some kind of anti-hero.

Remember that, Ryukishi wanted Battler to look like the good guy for hiding the answer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732200
He was hiding the answer to prevent Ange from killing herself. Had she not been an unstable kid, I'm sure he'd have had no problems in telling her what happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732207
>Remember that, Ryukishi wanted Battler to look like the good guy for hiding the answer.

Because Ange was going to commit suicide once she knew.

[Anonymous No.]

>.6732203
I don't even know what those coins do. I never even got all of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732203
Puzzle solutions:
1A 2A 3B 4D 5C 6D 7E 8A 9B 10C 11B 12E 13A 14C 15E 16C

I stopped Umineko when it devolved into a lesbian I-love-you declaration fest with dramatic battle music. I get that the writer has a fetish for lesbians, but there are only so many "I love you" between those asshole witches before I barf. Go back to the proper couple FFS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732303
...Were there really that many lesbian moments in Umineko?

As a major yurifag I'm not seeing very many.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732303
Thanks for that. But if the only important choice is magic or trick, what is the point of the coins?
Yet undiscovered?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732321
In general not, but in the 8th game yes. The part that made me stop made me lose count after the 15th Ai kanji. It's disgusting. Keep your yuri shit to yuri-only things. It has no room in Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, guys, the sequence with Ange going completely insane and committing suicide by jumping off the building isn't a bad end that happens because you make the wrong choice. It always happens, no choice involved. Story's rolling on, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732339
Sounds like you have a seriously irrational hatred of lesbians if Umineko irritated you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732332
I'm not that far yet, and have not seen a purpose.

The only change I noticed is that getting all coins unlocks scenes that normally don't happen.

Get coin -> get coin -> special scene -> normal scene
Get coin -> not coin -> normal scene

I did not have to use the coins in the Bern confession scene with the purple text and have no idea where to use them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732352
Did you see the scene yet? You'll have my reaction when you get there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732358
Got it, thank you. Also, is there any meaning in the purple culprit choice? Am I fine with choosing whoever or is there a best and worse choice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732382
No, there's only one right answer.

Rudolf, Kyrie, and Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732382
You just will get laughed at by Bernkastel if you chose wrong, then see a short discussion between several characters on why you were wrong. Then you can chose again. There are literally hundreds of possibilities.

I only know of one choice that works. Keep in mind that you can choose several culprits. Chosing none doesn't work, I tried it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732388
Right. I'll see if I can figure it out, thanks for your consideration in using spoilers.
Also, now that Ange says it, I realized just now the irony in Battler jumping off the boat at the end when one of the very first scenes was him being scared of falling out of the boat. I think that's what he was aiming for.

[Anonymous No.]

Haha, oh wow. Near the beginning of ep 8, Shannon and Kanon appear together infront of literally EVERYONE.

Now that's what I can an epic f.uck you to the shkanonfags.

[Anonymous No.]

Rewatching the motion graphics is making my eyes tear a bit.

Damn you Ryukishi for making me care way too much about your characters. Truly this isn't a mystery.

Everyone is fucking dead over fucking money of all things.

Christ.

I'll just still believe in the Meta World.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732518
Except the entire part is in the meta world: Kinzo is there, too.

Sucks to be you that you're still unable to understand the obvious plot. By now only serious Asperger candidates doubt it.

[Anonymous No.]

I began reading episode 8. It's like I'm reading the beginning episode 1 again... wait oh shit. What's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>Truly this isn't a mystery.
If it is no mystery, then magic can happen.

This means the meta world can be real, and it cannot be proven to not exist.

Therefore, using "without love it cannot be seen", the stupid ending can be dismissed as what it is: A retarded pipe dream. Sorry Ryukichi, thats your own argument working against you. My reality > yours.

[None !Irru.HYnts No.]

So, I'm firing up the stream if people are still interested.

I know it's a day after, but yeah, couldn't help it.

http://www.livestream.com/seacatsbgm

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732518
Yeah, Ange and Kinzo being there sure give credibility to the thing, don't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732534

Pretty sure this is what he actually wanted to happen.

It's a last ditch attempt to convert everyone to fantasy.

Sooo meta.

And fuck him, it worked for me. Everyone is fucking happy in the golden land

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732534
>Ryukichi
Stop that. And aren't you the one who was calling it a "mistery" not a "mystery" before?

[Anonymous No.]

>Everyone is fucking happy in the golden land

Except Lambda and Bernkastel. They fucking rot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732534
That was actually the point. Truth is totally subjective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732553
No, that wasn't me. I'm not a regular /jp/ poster. Sorry to get the name of 07 wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732558
Shut your whore mouth. You have no idea how much of a fucking bro Lambda is in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732576
I do, I read it. She still should fucking rot.

[Anonymous No.]

"You're going to choose under what light see the whole thing" as the ending could be seen coming from a mile away, come on.
I even think I'll like the ending.
This, however, doesn't really save R07 or Umineko from being an overconvoluted and badly written mess. He's lucky most of his fans are the people who will get "choose how you want to see it" as "be in denial about the parts you don't like"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732558

They return in Tea Party and start their crazy flirting again, while Erika runs around in joy.

Not like it matters though, the whole Umineko except maybe 5 minutes happened inside Battler's head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732576
Is she really a cake?

[Anonymous No.]

>They return in Tea Party and start their crazy flirting again, while Erika runs around in joy.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
Please be trolling. They should just be gone, NOBODY likes their flirting shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732618
Stop raging about it so much. I don't think many people are bothered by Bern and Lambda's flirting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>This, however, doesn't really save R07 or Umineko from being an overconvoluted and badly written mess.

People are not stories. >_>

[Anonymous No.]

>If we call this very thing as magic, except for Beatrice, certainly not one of us can be called a witch.
>In that sense, we may say that since she put together her own magic system, even if she enters the beginners' class, as a witch, her level already surpasses the witches, ... and she is starting to step even into your level.

Beatrice's world of magic inside her head is something completly different than the powers of voyagers.

Brace for "metaworld is real" in Umineko Rei.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732611
No, Featherine just turns her into one to off her. You know, being a magical god?
People just didn't understand why Lambda turned into cake and thought it meant she always was cake, which wouldn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732631
Lol! :P:P

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732631
Leave, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732648
So Bern isn't real-life AuAu's pet cat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732636

That would be fine with me. At this point the only good thing about the story is the meta world and characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732664
She turned into a cat several times. Once with ange long before they met featherine, in Ep4. In Ep8 she turns into a cat a few times too.

This doesn't mean she is suddenly Auaus cat. The game never states she is. Turning into a cat is something she does and has always done. People are just flipping out over things, what do you expect?

[Anonymous No.]

Even "Bern and Lambda are Rika and Satoko reading Umineko novels" would be a better end that this retarded shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>Pretty sure this is what he actually wanted to happen.
>
>It's a last ditch attempt to convert everyone to fantasy.

Yes, that is true. The entire final battle rests on that. That is why Battler continues to exist despite Bern stating in red that he is dead. Bern is cold, harsh, reality.

Umineko is about rejecting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732631
You're right, I blame the hangover. You know what I meant though.
>>6732673
I haven't reached that part yet, but considering how every meta-character has a real life counterpart ("vessel" or whatever the commonly accepted term is), is it that far-fetched to think those two might be just that? Are you sure it's not just liking the characters that prevent people from -I wouldn't say agreeing to it, but at least accept the possibility that's what they might be?

[Anonymous No.]

This whole crap about AuAu is just like a terrible RPG GM creating an all powerful self insert character who can own everyone with a snap of fingers while pointing out to all players how pathetic, stupid and meaningless existences they are.

It's like reading Nanoha fanfictions from AS...

[Anonymous No.]

>Are you sure it's not just liking the characters

I don't like her at all. I'd prefer her to be gone for good.

But the game just doesn't state what people say. Nor does the game even imply it.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, done with the game. Why does everyone hate Bern?

Fuck, Aurora kills Lambda, and Battler gets mad at Bern? Why?

Shouldn't they all gang up on Aurora and beat the stupid shit to death? Aurora is the problem here, the stupid git should just die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732697
>reading fanfiction
found the problem

[Anonymous No.]

So how long is it? EP4-like, 10 hours or something? More? I'd like to finish it in one setting and be done with it, but if there's no way around multiple sessions I'd like to know

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732702

Bern is one of the most popular characters. Only faggots hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732723
I meant in the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732723
Red truth: Battler and Ange are faggots.

[Anonymous No.]

Why the fuck is old Battler so hung up by Beatrice?
He met her for like 2 days, and his family died partly due to her.
It feels so fucking forced

[Anonymous No.]

Everyone said Ange always dies by suicide right?

But...in my game she never jumps. She later talks with Amakusa and Okonogia and elbows Okonogi in the side.

Explain please. Fake spoilers again? (FYI I got all 17 medals and chose magic, NOT trick)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732738
Ange suicides only if you chose trick. Because the whole point is shoving magic down your throat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732723
And once again, something being popular means you have to like it or be a faggot?
Sorry, needlessly cruel characters like that have always been pathetic to me. They make great villains, but I really can't see why people worship them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732725

Because Ryukishi is a faggot who can't write.

He wanted to make Erika an unlikeable bitch for everybody to hate, and she ended 3rd in popularity poll.

Basically Bern want to show everyone that what happened on Rokkenjima is retarded bullshit and Ushiromiyas are crazy bastards. And she is 100% right.

But Ryukishi somehow think that there is love in his story...

[Anonymous No.]

Battler is an accomplice, right?
Did he even try to save Maria and Jessica?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732759
He only saved Shannon. Maybe Maria and Jessica were already dead.

[Anonymous No.]

So now you can finally move on from Umineko, congratulation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6731166
are you seriously fucking disregarding the whole giant different story becase of some shitty refrerance made 3,5 years ago?

>>6731267

yes. this.

>>6731889

yes. it ruins everything. it just does.

>>6732303
>I stopped Umineko when it devolved into a lesbian I-love-you declaration fest with dramatic battle music. I get that the writer has a fetish for lesbians, but there are only so many "I love you" between those asshole witches before I barf. Go back to the proper couple FFS

OMG! DO WANT!

>>6732534

wow, this is kinda rational

[Anonymous No.]

so before it was friendship, and now it's magic/feelings
does he have a thing for corny endings or what

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732636

this is the only thing that can redeem Ryukishi in my eyes. make at least part of the story difinitely not bullshit

>>6732702
haha, true

>>6732618

are by any chance Jessicaxkanon shipper?

[Anonymous No.]

The yuri is just Ryuukishi giving something to the few male readers who stayed.

[Anonymous No.]

So, he lifted even the ending from Forest?
Epilogue happens when they are old and the main character has been collecting fragments all the time, when it all clicks together magic/fiction surpasses reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732729

Because Battler isn't right in the head. The whole family is just pretty much shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732823
you must be kidding, there was always tons of yuri in this series

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732839
Yes, that's what I wrote.
He is giving some yuri to keep some male readers.

[Anonymous No.]

Retarded shippers will love this ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732855
dont insult retarded shippers

[Anonymous No.]

Is 2ch raging as hard as /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732855

I don't see how they would. Nobody cares about old Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

So old Battler is basically Kinzo 2.0?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732823
All readers. Yuri is very well liked by female readers in japan, Bern/Lambda is appropriate for the female-aimed yuri hime. All of us love it. Except one whiny anon, apparently.

>Basically Bern want to show everyone that what happened on Rokkenjima is retarded bullshit and Ushiromiyas are crazy bastards. And she is 100% right.

I love how 07 tried to paint Bern as mean when she is 100% correct.
Yeah, Battler is nice for hiding the truth MY BUTT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732862
about half of them, same as here.

>一番損したと感じる人
people who thought it was a waste of time
>ＥＰ１から推理を真面目に考察した人
people who have been speculating since the beginning
>得した人
people who are fine with it
>キャラ萌え（一部）・世界観好き・なんでもアリでおｋ
people there for the moe, setting, whatever goes

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732872

Go to AS. They like the ending.

[Anonymous No.]

ワロタ

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>6732887
They probably like it for the Battler/Beatrice shipping.

Shipping which make no fucking sense whatsoever I must say
Why the fuck waste your life for a crazy maid you only saw for 2 days?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fine with it.

I don't give a shit about the real world in Umineko anymore.

Meta Battler and Meta Beato are happy in imaginationland.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732887
oh. my. fucking. gods

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732901

Well, I'm a shipperfag and I could give a shit about that old crazy Battler and Shannon/Beatrice since she's not the Beatrice most people came to love. That shipping makes zero sense. She's just some crazy chick he knew for a few days.

I guess Ryu tried to satisfy people, but it's not like they had a history and story like meta Beato/Battler did. Though the part at the end, I'm not sure what is going on there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732916
maybe but i cant live with the fact that stupid author apparently force on me to believe that everything is just in some fucktards head
im waiting for some clearer translations which will make it possible for other interpreatations

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732916

That's my feeling. Fuck the real world. The fanficiton world is best. If he makes meta real in Rei I might almost forgive him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732932
+1

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still kinda honestly impressed that Ryukishi had the balls to go with this ending of all possible things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732891
Awesome
Also the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>everybody died
>meta characters don't exist
>Battler is a crazy old man with imaginary friends

>bittersweet ending

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732936
I don't know what's more pathetic, that a reply like that got posted on /jp/ or that I recognize what sort of website it comes from.
That's precisely the kind of people I'd have bet would retreat in denial and be happy with their shipping faggotry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6733012

what else is there but denial at this point? /jp/ was thinking there was a super secret good end yesterday morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6733012
fuck you. if you are fine with this end thats awesome. now go and suck Ryukishis cock faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6732891
Someone should translate it, then it should be posted in every Umineko threads ever.
I could try but I would do a crappy job at it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6733033

I was completely and totally in that boat, but now I'm.... kind of accepting that this may be the true ending? I don't know, I want to look through old stuff with this mind set and think about it for a while before the translation comes out.

the main thing that I feel like I still don't understand is exactly which instances of Ange through the game were a delusion of Battler, and which (if any) were real. Or has Ange always been the representation of Battler searching for the truth?

And beyond that, scenes like George/Shannon and Jessica/Kannon stuff... is that also from Battler's mind? Was that him getting back memories of what he knew about them/learned during the trip? I get the idea of each game being Battler running through different scenerios, unearthing memories, coming closer to the truth, blah blah, but what about the stuff that he couldn't have seen?

fffff, this comment turned really long, OBVIOUSLY I HAVE A LOT OF THINKING TO DO

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>>6733012
im sorry. but the kind of ending where everyone was just a dream/delusion/story/everyone was already dead is the worst thing that can be pulled off for any story. I dont see how being in denial after all of those years of growing attached to characters is wrong.
Im also not a shipperfag, the only pair i really ship and care about is Bern/Lambda
that said you can take your eliticism and go fap to lolis with dicks

[Anonymous No.]

Umineko Rei:

- that nurse Yasu meet was Miyo, she became Toya's assistant
- she wrote Higurashi novels
- Umineko happened in the same kakera as Matsuribayashi-hen
- Toya really is a witch
- Bern and Lambda are real
- everything we saw was real, they were kakeras Featherine observed
- they all helped Battler regain his memories
- at the very end they show old Battler and Yasu a kakera with a happy ending
- Battler and Yasu die happy while crying tears of joy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6733072
>that said you can take your eliticism and go fap to lolis with dicks
Pot, kettle, etc...

[Anonymous No.]

so who was Hachijo? Just some random author who nursed amnesiac Battler?

[Anonymous No.]

fuck yeah lambern scene. game redeemed

[Anonymous No.]

Battler will die.

But his soul will chose to go back in time, the the time when he was happiest, and he will be at Episode 1 first chapter.

Beatrice who loves Battler want to be with him too and want to be in a time when Battler'd love her, but since he already loves Ange she'll go back in time before Battler is born, and became his mother.

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>>6733048
There you go

[Anonymous No.]

>>6733146
If you answer yes to all those things, EP 8 is guaranteed to piss you off.

[Anonymous No.]

Bern's letter and Lambda's diary must be real. I will not accept them not being real.

[Anonymous No.]

Edited version because of a few mistakes I did in a hurry

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>>6733173
Haha oh wow. The irony is astounding.
"BUT THE STORY WAS NEVER A MYSTERY IT WAS ABOUT BATTLER'S LOVE FOR A MAID WITH A PENIS HE KNEW FOR TWO DAYS!"

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>>6733173
i got "you are a stupid reader"

;__;

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>>6733189
Can't you even read a flowchart? It means that if you're looking for a mystery story you should get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.]

Basically the whole EP