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Umineko EP8 spoilers

>>6720881

Erika appearin, Evatrice trollin, Battler vs Angein, Inquisitor duo broin

>> No.6721659

DLANOR AND WILL DLANOR AND WILL DLANOR AND WILL DLANOR AND WILL AHHHHHHHH

>> No.6721666

obviously, best episode.

>> No.6721669

Battler wants Ange to understand the heart before she understands the crime. Like a math problem in a school book: you can find the answer in the back of the book or upside down, but it won't give you the solution and you thus wouldn't have learned anything.

>> No.6721671

MY BODY

WAS

NOT

READY

>> No.6721672
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SO WILL WE GET A TIP ABOUT THIS

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Best fucking bros or BEST FUCKING BROS?

>> No.6721675

Meta Battler can eat a dick and die, why wasn't Will the protagonist from the beginning.

>> No.6721679

>>6721649
Dropped.

Enjoy you're shit.

>> No.6721680

>>6721673
I had dreams about this who knew it would actually happen.

>> No.6721681

>>6721673
Using all of your knowledge and imagination, and battling it out with all the clues. That is mystery; that is the greatest mystery can ever be.

>> No.6721684

>>6721675

Will >= Erika >>>>>>>>>> Battler

>> No.6721686

This episode is so <good>.

>> No.6721688

>>6721673

DAT CODPIECE

>> No.6721690

When do we find out that Will and Battler are the same person?

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>> No.6721700

Reposting stream link for people who are interested;

http://www.livestream.com/seacatsbgm

Currently doing the ??? from episode 5 with voices.

>> No.6721702

MEANWHILE AT WITCHHUNT
Translation: 0% Editing: 0%

>> No.6721703

>>6721683
Knox rule not stated in red, but a red sword background?

>> No.6721704

>>6721696
Dine 7: There simply must be a corpse in a detective novel.

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One screencap is left in the old thread

>> No.6721708

>>6721700
Where did the voices come from?

>> No.6721709

>>6721703
Neither of them seem to be using red. It's a mark of brodom, as Will established back in Episode 7.

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>> No.6721712

>>6721708
Drama CD

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>>6721673

FUCK YEAH LIKE A LAWFUL, UNSOCIOPATHIC SAM AND MAX.

YOU CRACK ME UP, LITTLE DLANOR

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>> No.6721719

>>6721684
I'd have to agree with this.

Oh god, Will and Erika teaming up would be be it for me, I'd have to like this episode no matter what.

>> No.6721721

>>6721684
>two detectives are better than a normal guy
Well, no fucking shit, bro. Why are you comparing apples with oranges.

>>6721675
Because then the story would be over in two episodes.

>> No.6721724

What is the possibility of this episode increasing the amount of BattlerxWill shippers?

>> No.6721725

>>6721717
RURRUUS

>> No.6721726

use spoiler tags out of consideration please.
I keep scrolling past this thread as fast as I can every time I see it.

>> No.6721728

>>6721726
Hide it

>> No.6721734

>>6721726
Hide the thread, genius.

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closeup time

>> No.6721736

>>6721726
Hide it, then.

>> No.6721737

>>6721725
I'm happy I'm not the only one that has been reading the word "rules" that way so far,

>> No.6721738

>>6721735
THE RETURN OF CAMERAMAN-KUN?

>> No.6721740
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blood everywhere

>> No.6721741

>>6721735
Pissed off Will is best Will.

>> No.6721742

>>6721736
oh, yeah, actually thanks.

>> No.6721743

Wait, are Will and Dlanor fighting Battler and stomping him on the curb?

>> No.6721744

>>6721708
drama cd

>> No.6721745

Nah man, Battler will always be the best. Simply because he was a normal guy, who took on fucking witches. God, the last scene in episode 5.... that sealed the deal for me. Battler is character of the year, all years. Fuck the haters.

>> No.6721750

>>6721721

It's the same personality wise.

Erika and Will are simply far superior characters.

>> No.6721751

>>6721741
Battler who?

>> No.6721758

I love how this episode started out so SHITTY but now it's awesome.

>> No.6721761

Will has basically completely supplanted that faggot Battler as the badass lead looking for the truth.

Good fucking riddance.

Hiding the truth from your grieving sister while chilling with your wife is a fucking dick move.

>> No.6721763

>>6721744
Who is voicing Erika?

>> No.6721764
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Even after all this time Battler is still incompetent.

>> No.6721765

>>6721745
Yeah, until he told his family to fuck themselves so he can indulge in his pretend witch wife.

>> No.6721769

>>6721743
No, looks more like they're stepping up to fight off the goats who were destroying all the fantasy?

>> No.6721770

Am I the only one who's sort of bored by the episode so far? There haven't been any big reveals.

>> No.6721771

>>6721745
I actually agree.
He's done a lot of stupid shit, but he would do better than any of us would in the same situation. He has a lot more willpower than any of us as well.
Will is better than him, yes, but why the fuck are you even comparing the two.

>> No.6721774

The whole scene with Will and Dlanor is filled with R07 ranting, though.

>> No.6721780

>>6721763
古戸ヱリカ : 七味
Here's the whole cast:
http://hisagi.sakura.ne.jp/ep6/main.html

>> No.6721782

>>6721761
see
>>6721669
He wants her to get to the fucking truth herself instead of getting it handed to her on a silver platter.

>> No.6721783

>>6721774
Yeah, looking forward to the inevitable ragequit whining. Me, I think it's hilarious and awesome.

>> No.6721784
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>> No.6721786

Battler will always be best, go back and play the first 4 arcs to remember.

"Slice your cow tits and make me a sandwich."? That's god right there.

>> No.6721788

>>6721774
Insulting his readers again?

>> No.6721789

>>6721769
So if you don't mind me asking, where's Battler in all of this? I'm seriously lost...

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>> No.6721791

>>6721770
>There haven't been any big reveals.
Because you should get it already. So far it's just the usual fare except saying it clearer for people who don't get it. eg, Kyrie is Battler's mom, shkanon

>> No.6721792

Did the fighting game get released yet?

>> No.6721796

>>6721774
Wouldn't be the first time Ryukishi used his characters to bitch and moan, I've gotten used to his faggotry though, so I don't mind too much.

>> No.6721797

>>6721770
No big reveals? What do you call the Purple Truth then?

>> No.6721799

>>6721792
some nips are streaming it on niconico for a while now

>> No.6721800

Will: New Hotness
Battler: Old and busted

>> No.6721801

>>6721770
Did you miss the cake? Or Kinzo is alive and a lolicon?

>> No.6721803

Seems Battler is back, but seriously, what's he been doing since the whole "won't tell Ange the truth" thing?

>> No.6721804

>>6721801
>Kinzo is alive and a lolicon
Wait what

>> No.6721805

>>6721786
1-4 Battler is god tier, I will readily admit that.

Then he kind of hit his peak at 5, then handed in his man card and genitals at the front office since then. He's merely a shell of what he once was, an all star athlete far past their prime.

>> No.6721807

is it Tea Party yet?

>> No.6721808

>>6721782
So basically Battler is the new Beatrice, and Ange the new Battler.

Battler confirmed for best fucking character.

>> No.6721809

What is 2ch thinking abut this EP so far?

>> No.6721812

>>6721797

But nothing has come from it yet.

>> No.6721814

>>6721791
not so much for Kyrie and Shkannon, maybe 2 lines.
But a lot of HURRR DURRR THE SIESTAS ARE MARIA'S RABBITS. No, seriously?

>> No.6721816

>>6721788
No, but he's basically ranting about what a mystery is.

>> No.6721822

>>6721791

Why does this episode exist, then, if the audience is already expected to know everything?

>> No.6721823

>>6721797
A gimmick for the game, a severe handicap for the slower readers, or a weakned red text. Not really a reveal, its either going to be red text or not.

>> No.6721825

>>6721816
Honestly, he'd be one of the last people I'd rely on for a mystery.

Makes an entertaining story, but the logistics are all fucked.

>> No.6721831

Please tell me who Will and Dlanor were fighting, and what the hell Battler is up to now.

>> No.6721832

The Siesta Sisters are Maria's rabbits and the Winchester rifles from the room with the gold

>> No.6721835

>>6721822
Probably to confirm suspicions, and probably for a couple of real reveals near the end.

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>> No.6721837

This wasn't uploaded yet, right?

>> No.6721838

>>6721805
I blame R07 for forgetting how to write his own fucking characters.
THIS is not Battler. If it was ep 1-4 Battler, you would hear a lot of silly shit but then there would be a strike of sheer brilliance that would turn the fucking tables around.

>> No.6721841

>>6721832
It's like I'm really playing episode 4

>> No.6721842
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>The Purple Words have the same weigh as the Red Truth. However, only the culprit will lie using the Purple.
I don't think it says anywhere that the culprit can ONLY lie with the Purple. Which would make it pretty interesting, the culprit could make a hundred statements and lie in only one of them.

>> No.6721851

>>6721842
That's the idea.

>> No.6721853

CONFUSION!

FILL ME IN ON WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING!!!

>> No.6721854

>>6721805
>Then he kind of hit his peak at 5, then handed in his man card and genitals at the front office since then. He's merely a shell of what he once was, an all star athlete far past their prime.

Like K1 back in the day, right?

>> No.6721855

>>6721816
Which is pretty amusing, given that Umineko isn't a mystery.

>> No.6721856

>>6721822
To tie up loose ends. For example, I think we can all agree that Kinzo is absolutely and most assuredly dead at the start of all games 1-4. But we don't know how Rudolf knew he was going to be killed that night (well ep 7... but still), or the true nature of Yasu (explained in red).

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Back to Erika out of nowhere

>> No.6721860

People wouldn't be ragging on Battler if he wasn't so incompetent and didn't hide the truth during his time as GM.

Seriously, he could have been finished with this shit by now. Instead he's just chilling in the meta fantasy world.

So come on Will, drag the fucking answers out of him.

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>> No.6721863

>>6721857
>Back to (blank) out of nowhere
Yea that's pretty much how R07 writes when things start getting good.

>> No.6721864

>>6721854
K1 was and has always been a badass.

>> No.6721866

What's going on now?

I'm totally lost and I want to know what's going on now and stop being lost.

>> No.6721867

>>6721857
WHY CAN'T WE SEE ERIKA'S FACE
FUCKING RYUKISHI AND HIS GIANT HANDS

>> No.6721871

>>6721809
Many of them are joking about ファンジター.

>> No.6721876

So is THIS what Battler's been up to while Will and Dlanor were fighting god knows what? Fighting Erika still?

>> No.6721878

>>6721860
>So come on Will, drag the fucking answers out of him.

You do know Will also wants to conceal the truth, right?

>> No.6721881

>>6721860
Maybe he wants them to fucking find the answers themselves, like he had to.
Make the detectives fucking WORK for their answers.

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>> No.6721883

>>6721857
>>6721862
This is the same scene from before. The text is the same.

>> No.6721884

>>6721854
K1 floundered in the middle, the picked back up during the last two arcs.

We'll be lucky if Battler manages to make it out of this ep without being a sniveling cunt.

>> No.6721886

Ah, we've left the FAKE phase and are now into the bad information phase.

>> No.6721887

>>6721876

That's a Battler.

BATTLER is probably trolling loli Ange right now.

>> No.6721888

>>6721876
No, this is the same shit as before, just with more context.

>Furude Erika killed herself, died in an accident, died from a disease, died from any reason other than murder!

And then Erika responds with the whole you are the one who killed me bit.

>> No.6721889

WHAT'S HAPPENING?!

>> No.6721890

I hope at least that all the people saying the motive was clear as rain and only retards couldn't see it are eating a can full of dicks now.

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This one is definitely new though

>> No.6721893

>>6721888
Erika better not disappear again ;_;

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Trolling etc.

>> No.6721896

Where are the guys who said episode 8 wouldn't be a clusterfuck with all characters so far included?

>> No.6721897

>>6721881
The next time lives are on the line and I can prevent bloodshed, I'll be sure to make sure everyone understands why it's happening, because that is more important.

>> No.6721899

>>6721882
Poison gas was poured in from the door cracks and you died of poison, water poured in and you drowned, the air was sucked out of the room and you suffocated!
It wasn't poison, drowning, or suffocation!

>> No.6721900

>>6721897
>The next time lives are on the line and I can prevent bloodshed

THEY ARE ALL ALREADY DEAD!
There's nothing to prevent.

>> No.6721901

>>6721896
Where are my beloved Siestas?

I want to hug 00 one last time ;_;

>> No.6721903

I'm still wondering when the cake and puzzles are going to come back since it seems like that hasn't affected anything yet,

>> No.6721904
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>> No.6721905

Battler was the one who hurt Erika in her past.
Erika committed suicide on October 4th, 1986.
This is how Battler "killed" her.
Battler is a theater-loving faggot.

>> No.6721907

>>6721895
Atta girl Beato!

>> No.6721908

I actually like Battler the way he is now.

"I've reached the truth, have become a fucking Sorcerer, and need no longer struggle about. I've weaved a beautiful story for Beato, and will protect her heart forever."

Fuck. To me, that's the most badass thing yet. Hell, even Will sympathizes with Yasu and wants her to be at peace.

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>> No.6721910

>>6721896
I'm amazed. I really did think this episode would be fucking insane, but it's turning out to be pretty cool so far.

>> No.6721913

Q.うみねこはミステリー物なの?
A.いいえ、ファンジター物です。

I laughed.

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>> No.6721920

>>6721897
>>6721881

He seems like a goddamn hypocrite now though. Keeping this cruel game going and making the pieces suffer. I mean hell, he's been raging against Beato about that from the start, and finally convinced her in 5 to protect the honor of piece Natsuhi.

BATTLER is a dick.

>> No.6721921

>>6721905
Holy shit...HOLY SHIT.

IS THIS REAL?

>> No.6721922

>>6721909
>>6721914
>>6721915
Asumu?

>> No.6721926

>ファンジター
Wtf, is it written like this everywhere in the text?

>> No.6721927

So what is Hachijou saying? More definitions of mystery?

>> No.6721928
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>> No.6721929

>>6721922
Toya Hachijo.

>> No.6721931

>>6721922

wat

>> No.6721935

No, that's Toya.

>> No.6721936

>>6721921
I don't think so. That was a theory that was on /jp/ some time ago.
It would be too good to be true.

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Whaaaaaaaaat

>> No.6721938

>>6721922
More like Auau

>> No.6721940

>>6721920
Huh? He's only hosted EP6, and the pieces dying wasn't part of his story. EP8 is a different deal, and that's so Ange finds the truth herself.

>>6721926
Yes, during Will & Dlanor's scene.

>> No.6721941

>>6721897
Dude.
Everyone is already dead. The murders happened, there is nothing to prevent.

>> No.6721942

Hachijo is basically saying "lol you took my fiction written to expose the ugliness in human nature and shit as a proper hypotesis on what happened? ahaha.wav"

>> No.6721945

>>6721937
...this has got to be a joke.

>> No.6721946

>>6721937

Oh cool.

I don't give a shit now. Fantasy, fantasy everywhere.

>> No.6721947

>>6721937
tl pls

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>>6721945
>>6721946
Would you mind sharing with the rest of the class?

>> No.6721959

>>6721940

He should have at least tried to prevent the creation of 7 and 8. There's no point any more. Close the damn board and chill in purgatory/meta world with Beato.

Awfully convenient for us who haven't reached the truth though.

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>> No.6721967

Excuse me, but what the fuck is Bern doing in the real world?

>> No.6721970

Okay, so they're pretty much saying magic exists and does some crazy shit, right. Which is why we get loli Ange with teen Ange's memories, Bern talking to real people, etc.

>> No.6721973

>>6721967
Bern = Ange

>> No.6721976

Toya says something about having a cat with particularly weird tastes, Bern shows up later saying that she shouldn't call her food "feed." Toya says sure it is, tosses it, Bern changes into a cat, eats it.

>>6721963
"The truth is boring."

>> No.6721977

>>6721967
Because she's real.

>> No.6721980

>>6721967
> He thinks Hachijo's study is in the real world
ahaha.wav

>> No.6721984

>>6721973
And dropped

>> No.6721988

>>6721984
>he believes anything that is written here
did you believe Rosa had a rocket launcher in episode 7 as well?

>> No.6721989

>>6721976
>"The truth is boring."

Fuck you R07.

>> No.6721991

>>6721967
She's grown up Rika of course. look at dem breasts.

>> No.6721993

>>6721976
>Toya says something about having a cat with particularly weird tastes, Bern shows up later saying that she shouldn't call her food "feed." Toya says sure it is, tosses it, Bern changes into a cat, eats it.
Goddamn it Ryukishi, goddamn it

>> No.6721997

This episode looks shitty so far.
It's almost like EP6.

>> No.6722000

>>6721988

Cousins vs Lambda was the better spoiler.

So disappointed it didn't happen.

>> No.6722003

>>6721997
Not really, EP8 is far more entertaining.

>> No.6722009

>>6721976
>Toya says something about having a cat with particularly weird tastes, Bern shows up later saying that she shouldn't call her food "feed." Toya says sure it is, tosses it, Bern changes into a cat, eats it.

Oh boy, let's dissect the deep meaning behind this pointless fucking scene.

>> No.6722011

>>6722000
That Cousins vs. Lambdadelta thing sounded corny as hell.

>> No.6722012

>>6722003
Will and Erika exist in this game, I concur with you

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>> No.6722018

So, wait, R07 is just doing fucking around now instead of properly finishing this shit? Fuck this.

>> No.6722019

>>6721993
>>6722009
Did you really expect anything better?

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>> No.6722027

>Toya says something about having a cat with particularly weird tastes, Bern shows up later saying that she shouldn't call her food "feed." Toya says sure it is, tosses it, Bern changes into a cat, eats it.

...

Naaah.

>> No.6722032

SO WHY KYRIE IS THE WAY SHE IS

>> No.6722033

Asumu is Kinzo's daughter, Jessica is Kinzo's daughter, Maria is Rudolph's daughter

>> No.6722034

>>6722018

The only thing we don't have yet is a clear motive.

So yeah, mostly dicking around and colorful debates.

Unless he sets up a super big TWEEEEEST..

>> No.6722042

>>6722033
Natsuhi is Gohda's big sister too.
Don't forget it.

>> No.6722049

PEOPLE WHO SAID THE MOTIVE WAS CLEAR AND ALL SAID = RETARDS
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE

>> No.6722051

>>6722033
and Kinzo is Kinzo daughter

>> No.6722053

So, has anyone finished this game yet? Seriously fuck all the middle man stuff, what about the ending?

>> No.6722054

I'd like to hold Erika in my arms. ;_;

>> No.6722057

>>6722053
Multiple endings. There are puzzles in the game that you can complete to earn golden medals to unlock stuff. Also, Bern has you replay the game with purple text enabled. You have to work out who is lying and present your answer to Bern. She gives you a different ending depending on how well you did.

Or something like that.

>> No.6722058

Umineko became such convoluted shit. Such a piece of trash. I miss Episode 1, when I didn't know how fucked up everything would become.

Enjoy your shitty unbelievable stories.

>> No.6722059

So is the culprit Hideyoshi or not?

>> No.6722060

Is R07 really not going to tell us the truth of what happened? At this point, it seemed like he never planned to have a real "truth." That or it's just something like the bomb accidentally exploding and not worth talking about.

>> No.6722062

>>6722034
You mean Yasu didn't get her pony so she flipped out and killed everyone? Seems about the same motive as Takano not getting research recognized, flipping out and killing everyone. So yeah

>> No.6722064

>>6722058
he mad.jpg

>> No.6722065

>>6722057

... Huh. Am I the only one who doesn't like this at all? It feels kind of cheap.

>> No.6722066

>>6722058
higurashi was so much better.

>> No.6722067

>>6722060
the real truth is saved for a possible 9th ep, just in case that he needs money in the near future..

>> No.6722068

I swear, at this point, I'll take Rokkenjima Syndrome over a "no answer/choose your answer" end.

>> No.6722071

This episode doesn't feel right after Ep7 and it's dramatic revelations. And I don't like that it's all meta meta meta meta. Dammit nips play faster.

>> No.6722072

>>6722058
Yeah, EP1 was fun. All we knew was people were dying in crazy ass ways, and at the end you had to fight an evil witch to save your family.

Why did it become like this.

>> No.6722073

>>6722065
Actually, it's quite smart. It means you have to go through and actually THINK about things in order to get the real ending. If you expect the truth to be handed to you on a platter, it ain't gonna happen. You have to earn it. Use your head.

>> No.6722075

>>6722066
>Higurashi
>Better

>> No.6722076

>>6722057

Huh.

I hope there's a one true end though.

>> No.6722077

a witch did it

>> No.6722081

>>6722073
>If you expect the truth to be handed to you on a platter, it ain't gonna happen.
It will be though. Someone will work it out and point out the correct route.

>> No.6722083

>>6722068
I don't see it as "choose your ending". I see it more as "Here are several endings, but I'm not gonna tell you which one is true. That's for you to study and decide".

What's the matter, too THOUGHT PROVOKING for you?

>> No.6722085

>>6722065
It is cheap.

This isn't like your standard VN where multiple routes make sense. This is supposed to be a mystery, you compile evidence for one killer, you don't spread it out so herpaderp, everyone can get in on the action, what's the fucking point if the reader can shoehorn in anyone they want?

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>>6722077
Witches don't exist.

>> No.6722089

>>6722073
>Actually, it's quite smart. It means you have to go through and actually THINK about things in order to get the real ending.

Dude, we've been thinking for 7 fucking games.

SEVEN
FUCKING
GAMES

I want an answer, not rubbish.

>> No.6722091
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6722091

oho

>> No.6722092

>>6722075
I liked it more than umineko. is that a problem?

>> No.6722093

>>6722087
Apparently we were wrong all along, and they really do exist.

>> No.6722094

>>6722085
There's only one true culprit. You have to work out who it is.

>> No.6722095

>>6722093

They exist in our hearts.

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>>6722089
If you thought through all 7, you'd know the answer.

>> No.6722098

>>6722089
And now that you've been thinking about it for seven games, you should have a pretty good idea of who the culprit is. Present your answer to Bernkastel, if you are confident.

>> No.6722099

>>6722091
What what what what

>> No.6722100

>>6722091
>Is this magic? Or is it a trick?
>[]Magic
>[]Trick
ahaha oh wow

>> No.6722102

>>6722091
you can´t be serious R07

>> No.6722103

Come the fuck on Ryu. Give me something like the Coco route. Change my understanding of everything!

>> No.6722104

>>6722089
And it will not happen. this was clar from the very beginning.

>> No.6722107

>>6722103
He's certainly taken things in a very different direction. I'm liking this a lot.

>> No.6722108

>>6722091

Magic motherfuckers.

>> No.6722110

So who the fuck is "playing" this game anyway?

Obviously not Battler, doesn't seem to be Bern either.

Don't tell me he's really doing an Xzibit meta within meta, so we can meta while they meta and making us the detectives for this game, how cheesy can you fucking be.

>> No.6722112

You're now realising that due to the puzzles and shit you cannot play this game using translation tools.

>> No.6722115

>>6722110

ange, you retard

>> No.6722116

>>6722110
Us as Ange I would assume.

>> No.6722120

>>6722110
It´s like fucking inception

>> No.6722121

>>6722110
Maria's rose

>> No.6722122
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Final choice in the series would be finding out which demon is the trap.

>> No.6722124

>>6722110
The player in this game is Cobb. We need to go deeper.

>> No.6722126

>>6722112
I know moon, feels good man.

>> No.6722129

>>6722112
Realized that right away. Sucks. I'll still be doing it though.

>> No.6722131

So, I just read on 2chan that the true ending consists of Beatrice coming into the world as a "real person" and going back to live with Ange and Battler. In the final world, they stop the culprit (Who is Shannon) from revealing the gold in the first place, it ends up going to charity. The last scene in the game is Bern and Lambda talking about their next adventure, proceeded by some nice words from our very own RK07.

>> No.6722135

Well, this was disappointing.

I was hoping for an actual answer after going through this, not a puzzle game. You don't write a 500 page novel normally for 450 pages, then suddenly turn it into a CYOA & puzzle book at the end. There's beauty in consistency and uniformity.

>> No.6722138

>>6722131
I'm calling complete bullshit.

>> No.6722139

>>6722083
Here's my guess for true end.
(After going through each possible ending as Ange, you see each of your family members as a murderer)
Ange: Why did it have to turn out like this? I only wanted to know the truth? Why is it that everyone can be a culprit?
Battler: Because your missing heart Ange. You wouldn't wan't to burst in on someones honeymoon, why expose so many secrets?
Ange: Because I have to find who killed you, I want you to return oniisan!
Battler: Ange, when you figure out how to see past petty things like the truth, to the heart, I'll come riding to you on a white horse.
Cue End Scroll with _STRIP

>> No.6722140

>>6722131
Nope.

>> No.6722141

>>6722131
Take that Shkanontricefaggots.

>> No.6722142

>>6722131

That's a joke right?

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>>6722131

>> No.6722145

>>6722131

SHANNON CANNOT BE THE CULPRIT

>> No.6722148

>we barely saw few dozens of screenshots
>nobody finished it yet, not even mentioning all endings

>BAWWW it's shit! Ryukishi betrayed us!

Grow up.

>> No.6722150

>>6722135
I thought the point was this wasn't supposed to be a proper mystery novel.

>> No.6722151

>>6722131
>Beatrice coming into the world as a "real person"
>they stop the culprit (Who is Shannon)
SOUNDS LEGIT.

>> No.6722153

>>6722131
>The gold ends up going to charity.

At least make up something believable.

>> No.6722156

>>6722142
You have to ask?
Unless original japanese text is quoted, and even then 2ch has its fair share of retards making shit up too, don't believe what you see here.

>> No.6722157

>>6722141
... you are not believing him, are not you?

>> No.6722162

Is there something about Amakusa? R07 said he was playing a role on this.

>> No.6722163

>>6722139
Never write.

>> No.6722164

>>6722131
At least use somewhere other than 2ch, where anyone who can read the slightest bit of moon can tell how much you're bullshitting.

>> No.6722168

>>6722091
This one doesn't even make sense.

A witch shows you her empty left hand. Closing it, she chants "Over there, hoihoihoi" and opens her right hand. In it is a piece of candy. Now is this magic or a trick?

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>> No.6722170

>>6722162
He kills Ange.
This or he runs away with her a la Thelma and Louise.

>> No.6722171

When can we expect a torrent? It's almost evening in Japan. IIRC, the previous episodes were already up at this time of the day.

>> No.6722176

>>6722168
If you don't select magic you get a bad end.

>> No.6722180

>>6722169
Erika goes back to being forgotten. Delicious Erika fans tears incoming.

>> No.6722181

>>6722171
Hm.

It will appear on Share first, I think.

>> No.6722185

I'm fucking confused!!

>> No.6722188

>>6722169
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

>> No.6722190

>>6722131
>true ending consists of Beatrice coming into the world as a "real person"
The sad, sad part is, I'm sure you are hoping for some horseshit like this.

No. No magical birth of Beatrice, no Yasu getting all of her memories somefuckinghow, no. She's dead Jim. Never existed to begin with, let's deal with the Goosebumps Choose Your Own Adventure story and be done with it.

>> No.6722191

>>6722150
Proper novel or not, you don't lead your readers along for, what, four years now, and then suddenly, when everyone is expecting a dramatic conclusion- THIS REMINDS ME OF A PUZZLE

>> No.6722192

>>6722180
Hm? What does it say?

>> No.6722193

Meta fucking everywhere.

>> No.6722194
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>> No.6722195
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6722195

So does anyone have a good summary of what has transpired so far in Episode 8? Or are we still at the early stages of interpreting screenshots and speculations?

>> No.6722198

>>6722169
WHAT THE FUCK DOES IT SAY

>> No.6722201

>>6722176
Shouldn't be either, really. She only shows you her left hand, the candy could have been in her right the entire time. It's not even a real question, fucking R07.

>> No.6722202

how many choices so far?

>> No.6722203

>>6722150
Since when?

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6722205

>>6722169
best news of the day! Suck that Erikafags!

>> No.6722208

>>6722203
Watch the second opening.
"This is not a mystery. No Dine, no Knox, no Fair".

>> No.6722209

So I'm curious, have we gotten a fucking screenshot that wasn't dripping with meta?

>> No.6722210
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6722210

Sure is forgotten in here

>> No.6722211

>>6722203
Since the end of episode 1, naturally.

>> No.6722215

>>6722208
And a witch was saying the same thing during 4 episodes. Your point?

>> No.6722216

Maybe if you collect 100 coins you'll get an extra life.
Berns a fucking retard.

>> No.6722217

So is this one of those "OMG THIS EP SUCKS" based on screens, then when the trans come out we say "wow, this wasn't that bad"

>> No.6722219

>>6722198
Farewell, Battler! Even if my part ends like this! Even if with this I live out my usefulness and am cast back into the ravine of oblivion! I have no regrets!

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>>6722205

>> No.6722222

>>6722201

Maria would believe it's magic.

It looks more like "Magic exists? yes [] no []"

>> No.6722224

>>6722205

He just killed the best character of Umineko.

Fuck you Battler

>> No.6722225

If she is forgotten, then why does she keep appearing in the screenshots?

>> No.6722227

>>6722201
Maybe he'll take this question as an opportunity to preach more, like an asshole.

Something like, "Only one who possesses love understands the magic of this feat." It's just pretentious enough to work for him.

>> No.6722228

>>6722191
The fucking story had "difficulty levels" for each chapter. FOR FUCKS SAKE, IT'S A GAME DUDE.

>> No.6722230

What's the board on 2chan where they discuss Umineko? I've checked all 二次元 boards and the えろげ board, but I couldn't find anything.

>> No.6722233

>>6722220

What are they saying?

>> No.6722234

>>6722219
Going out like a boss.
At least she didn't die like a bitch, like Rudolf or Kyrie. Or George.

>> No.6722236

>>6722217
Doubt it. Since this is the final episode and R07 seems to be doing some pretty outlandish stuff, butthurt will be longlasting.

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>>6722169
>>6722219

>> No.6722239

>>6722198
Well, the 1st sentence is talking to Battler, and thats all I got.

>> No.6722241

>>6722217
It's bad now that Erika is gone again. My bright, shining light in this bleak abyss of bad storytelling has been snuffed out. Again.

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>> No.6722243

>>6722195
Purple text. Anyone can use it, and it's equal to red text. However, the culprit, and ONLY the culprit can also use it to lie.

Meaning, if you have multiple purple statements from different people, they are all true UNLESS that person turns out to be the culprit.

Also, Erika's back. Eva-Beatrice is back. Will and Lion are back. There's actual gameplay elements, puzzle solving, multiple paths, etc...

It's quite something so far.

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>>6722234
>Kyrie

She didn't die like a bitch

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>> No.6722249

>>6722210
Let's go, partner Ange.
I don't like the whole "partner" thing, just call me Ange.

>>6722220
Well then, you may call me Your Highness Erika.
... Fine, let's go, partner Erika.

>> No.6722250

>>6722236

It depends, maybe if you solve all the puzzles properly you get the true end.

Stop making assumptions out of a few out of context caps.

>> No.6722252

>>6722219

hopefully she stays gone this time

>> No.6722253

You know what? I DON'T GIVE A MOTHERS HYMEN ABOUT ANY OF THIS SHIT.

What is going on with OKONOGI?

>> No.6722254

>>6722169
>>6722219
...I love you. ;_;

>> No.6722257

>>6722242

oh no a new character?

>> No.6722258
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>> No.6722259

>>6722209
As this game is Battler's attempt to hide the truth from Ange, it's basically non-stop fantasy/meta. He doesn't want the truth to be known. He wants to protect Beatrice's heart.

>> No.6722260

>>6722243
what choices so far?

>> No.6722262

in before Ryu doesn't give a conclusion from its mystery side, and readers will be left in utter despair with MAGIC and the HEART.

ahaha.wav

>> No.6722264

>>6722242

BOATMAN is here to save the day!

>> No.6722266

>>6722257
>new

>> No.6722267

>>6722249
>partner
Fuck yes.

>> No.6722269

>>6722249
thank you for translating, anon

>> No.6722274

>>6722249
ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST ERIKA IS BEST

>> No.6722275
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>>6722219
>I have no regrets.

>> No.6722276

>>6722259

>Let me tell you a kind and nice story

>trolls the fuck out of his sister

Best brother ever.

>> No.6722279

>>6722260
Bern asks you, the player, who the culprit is. You have to study the evidence presented so far, and give Bern your answer. Also, you can earn gold medals by doing puzzles. We're not sure what effect they have yet.

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>>6722249

Best episode.

>> No.6722283

>>6722230
>he still doesn't know the difference between 2ch and 2chan

>> No.6722286

>>6722249
THAT'S WHY I LOVE HER

>> No.6722288

>>6722228
You're kidding, right?
That was supposed to be an analogy for what was going on in the episodes. It wasn't supposed to be an actual game.

This isn't edgy or thought provoking, it's just a sign of bad writing. R07 wrote himself into a box with his own convoluted meta story, and this is just a cheap way to get out of it without pissing everyone off.

>> No.6722293

We're on bump limit.

>> No.6722294

>>6722258
>ネットの海
I don't like where this is going.

>> No.6722295

>>6722283
I do know. 2ch is a text board, so I suppose that the images are coming from 2chan.

>> No.6722296

>>6722259
>As this game is Battler's attempt to hide the truth from Ange, it's basically non-stop fantasy/meta. He doesn't want the truth to be known. He wants to protect Beatrice's heart.
This is retarded though. First he says "I'll show you what really happened" and then "except I'm doing everything in my power to ensure you don't ahaha,wav"

>> No.6722297

Really liking the element with Battler being a pseudo-enemy to Ange.

>> No.6722300

>>6722294
And then Beatrice was the Internet.

>> No.6722301

>>6722288
>That was supposed to be an analogy for what was going on in the episodes
Turns out it wasn't an analogy. It was the actuality. It's not my fault you were blind to the words right in front of your eyes.

>> No.6722303

>>6722288
It is a game. An intellectual one.

Stop hating on something when you don't even have a reasonable argument to defend your point.
Your sole opinion based on emotions isn't enough of an argument.

>> No.6722304

>>6722288
>This isn't edgy or thought provoking, it's just a sign of bad writing. R07 wrote himself into a box with his own convoluted meta story, and this is just a cheap way to get out of it without pissing everyone off
What you're basically saying is "I am more intelligent than all of this.

>> No.6722306

>>6722296

that's why it's trolling

>> No.6722307

>>6722296
He's inherited Beatrice's powers. And seemingly, her storytelling style.

>> No.6722308

>>6722249
Oh god yes, the two best characters, teaming up to curb stomp Ange's emasculated older brother.

>> No.6722311

>>6722295
no, plenty of people upload images on the text boards

>> No.6722312

Really liking the element of Battler being a pseudo-enemy to Ange. It's more interesting than Bern trolling everyone or whatever.

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>> No.6722316

>>6722294
they didn't have internet as a public entity back then, did that?

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>> No.6722319

>>6722301
Oh, don't bullshit me with the same shit he's been bullshitting us with for the last 7 episodes, I've become resistant to that.

Face it, nobody saw this coming, nobody expected this to come, nobody particularly wanted this to end this way. Neither you nor I nor the thousands of other readers wanted this originally, and it's a sign of bad writing when he has to pull this "IT WAS ALL A GAME THAT YOU, THE READER, WERE PLAYING, WHAT A TWEEST" out of his ass.

>> No.6722320

I fucking hate what R07 did to Battler.
Bring the good times back, R07, before your story went full retard.

>> No.6722322

>>6722315
>uruchai uruchai uruchai

>> No.6722323

>>6722317
Hell yes.

>> No.6722327

>>6722317
Amakusa, finally!

>> No.6722334

>>6722259

Fucking Battler I actually started liking him again the the ura tea party then he brings this fucking shit!

>> No.6722336

>>6722319
That isn't a twist. We were invited to a thinking game by R07. However, this many choices and this self-contained game is unexpected. Before this, the "game" involves us seeing the episode and trying to figure out the truth with what we know, with R07 trying to mislead us but also hint at the truth. You know, like a usual mystery novel.

>> No.6722337

>>6722323
>>6722327
notice how the font is different from the other guy, and the filename is something out of a chan

>> No.6722338

We need a new thread

>> No.6722339

New thread:
>>6722335

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Fucking Hachijou

>> No.6722347

>>6722319
I don't share the rage of this anon, but I do feel disappointed. He's basically cheapened his story by making it some kind of game we readers are participating in.

>> No.6722351

so how many endings are they in the game?what happen if you choose the wrong culprit?

>> No.6722356

Didn't R07 say from the beginning that he was never going to give a definitive answer like in Higurashi? In a lot of interviews he seemed to imply that there was an answer, but he wasn't going to say it because "it wouldn't be fair to the people who puzzled it out for themselves"

He said instead that the people who figured out the answer would be vindicated by the answer arcs, and people who hadn't figured it out yet could use the later arcs as clues. So... I was kind of completely expecting an ending like this? A chance for people who puzzled out the answers to confirm their suspicions, and provide more substantial hints for people who aren't quite sure.

>> No.6722370

>>6722356

That sounds to me like, "I don't know the real answer myself so my fans are crazy enough to think up something."

>> No.6722378

>>6722316
Yes they did. It was usually only accessible in universities and so forth though. It didn't really go mainstream until the Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP), otherwise known as the World Wide Web part of the Internet came online in the early 90s that the Internet went mainstream. HTTP bought with it graphics and links and stuff. Made it more user friendly.

But nah, shit like message boards, newsgroups and email? That's been going since the 70s. 2ch could've existed in the 80s. Hell, it kinda did. That's what Newsgroups are really.

>> No.6722381

>>6722370
arguably, that's what some authors have done, though. Off the top of my head, fictional authors like lovecraft love to let readers decide what his creatures are like, to a degree.

>> No.6722382

>>6722336
Except for the part where there wasn't an actual, defined ending. Which, you know, a usual mystery novel tends to have.

I will keep my judgement that this is poor writing on his part and I will not be swayed otherwise, not by you nor by R07. Mystery novel or not, visual novel or not, game or not, this is a sign of a bad writer who can't escape the hole he dug himself into.

>> No.6722387

>>6722370
nah, according to him there is one, and I can understand his reasoning. After all, without this "game" thing, umineko is pretty average, or even bad.

>> No.6722402

>>6722378
reminds me about the bluetooth deal. It's comforting to know we're both pushing and pulling what we know and will know.

but lol how did internet come into umineko.

>> No.6722409

>>6722382
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. And you know it. And the fact that you are saying "I will not change my opinion no matter what" is actually really pathetic.

Ryu planned this. Hell, he interacted with the fans and modified stuff throughout the whole thing. The detail about Kinzo being dead all along wasn't originally going to be in Ep4, but because people worked it out before then, he put it in. This has always been an interactive story between the writer and the "players" so to speak. It was the same with Higurashi. There's a reason why the game has a link to the official discussion forums on the main menu.

It's because Ryu actually listens to the fans theories and incorporates them. He's done it right from the start.

So yeah. You're wrong. Deal with it.

>> No.6722460

>>6722409
How am I wrong? You didn't refute my central point, that R07 is a bad writer who got caught in his own little red web of lies and half-truths that he couldn't solve himself. All you said was that he listened to his readers. I never denied that. But apparently, he didn't listen to them enough, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten this.

You know you need to actually make a point before you start parading your imagined victory in an argument, right?

>> No.6722484

>he didn't listen to them enough,

Waaaaaaaaaah he didn't write the story exactly like I wanted, BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

You sound like a die-hard harry potter fangirl who is pissed that Rowling didn't write her favorite pairing.

>> No.6722491

>>6722460
Except he hasn't dug himself into a hole. Or if he has, he's done it on purpose.
>But apparently, he didn't listen to them enough, otherwise we wouldn't have gotten this.
Gotten what? A story that's not what you personally expected? An interactive novel?
>You know you need to actually make a point before you start parading your imagined victory in an argument, right?
Pot, kettle, etc...

>> No.6722563

>>6722460
>>The pot calling the kettle that called him black a nigger.

>> No.6722601

>>6722484
So you think that writers shouldn't cater to their fans? Surprising your readers is a good thing, but denying them a fucking conclusion after you've been stringing them along for the past 7 episodes is a sign of shitty writing. Stop sucking his cock and wake up to the fact that you wasted your time playing a pointless mind game.

>>6722491
If he planned for the end to be this convoluted, that's just another sign that he can't write a fucking ending to save his life. People like consistency. This is not consistent with everything else. That is not good. Is it that hard for you understand this?
Don't waste my time with your brown-nosing. I'm going to bed, hopefully when I wake up, I'll be proven wrong about this shitty end and I might still glean a bit more enjoyment from this.

>> No.6722632

>>6722601
>So you think that writers shouldn't cater to their fans? Surprising your readers is a good thing, but denying them a fucking conclusion after you've been stringing them along for the past 7 episodes is a sign of shitty writing.
You just went full retard. There is a conclusion. There's multiple endings, and the players have to figure out which ending is correct based on the information provided. It's a challenge.

>If he planned for the end to be this convoluted, that's just another sign that he can't write a fucking ending to save his life. People like consistency. This is not consistent with everything else.
>This is not consistent with everything else.
Yes it is. Deal with it.

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