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[Anonymous No.]

Wow, this game was amazing. Fantastic. Nothing short of what I expected ... Actually I originally thought the title was Devil in the G string so I was expecting it t be to about a hot, slutty, psychotic chick, but whatever. My only beef with it is that Kyouske was such a bitch through out the whole thing. You'd think he would have grown some balls after spending all that time with Gonzu and have at least learned some martial arts so he could defend himself. Same with Haru. At least she got a lot of screen time, which is a major plus.

[Anonymous No.]

My problem with G Senjou is that I went in expecting Kyousuke to be like Kenichi with back flipping out windows and shit.

[Anonymous No.]

The game was okay-ish, above average, maybe good but definitely not perfect. It won't change my life (like Sharin did, the whole society theme in it was awesome), but it was enjoyable. The glaring plot-holes are annoying, and it tries too hard to mix drama, comedy, plot, tearjerking, etc and that made the game a bit bland IMO. If you are willing to take this game for what it is, it's worth your time. Prepare for yourself a massive suspension of disbelief though, you will need it.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh man, that Haru H-Scene was so fucking funny I fell off my chair, no kidding. Maou was full of awesome, Fukuyama Jun is my husbando.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711288
>>6711265
>>6711251
>>6711196
Try harder next time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711352
Wow thats anonymous ace detective for you! I didn't even realise that was only one person.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711352
What? Are you implying that OP is samefagging? I can assume responsibility for at least one of these posts and I'm not OP.

[Anonymous No.]

Since I read through this a few days ago O haven't been able to get Haru out of my head.

W-what is this feeling?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711372
I think that you've just found love. If you haven't got a waifu before, this is your gold chance.

[Anonymous No.]

I loved G Senjou, I just wish you didn't need to clear the game to unlock the Music Player like they did with Sharin.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonzu figure fucking where?!

I was rather impressed with this, I went into it without really knowing what to expect.

Devil in the G string
You and me both..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711410
Yeah, I ended up downloading the OST around chapter 2. Which by the way was the only chapter that dragged a bit too much IMO. I saw someone complaining about it in another thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Well at least it didn't drag as much as Touka's chapter.

But Tusbaki isn't as MOE as Touka

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711422
Ordered it myself, so I'll probably just wait until it arrives to listen to most of the tracks again, and just make due with the game's music player.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711251

Exactly. Kyouske was such a disappointment in comparison.

>>6711265

>it tries too hard to mix drama, comedy, plot, tearjerking, etc

I thought it did quite well actually. I wouldn't say it "mixed" them, they showed up during different sections but followed each other well. Sharin had a better underlying plot, but all around I enjoyed this better. The characters were much more fleshy instead of one-dimensional.

In relation to the pic, what was her name?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711358

Because it's not.

>>6711288

It was quite something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711265

>glaring plot-holes

Explain further.

[Anonymous No.]

I agree, OP. It was great. My only gripe with the game is the second chapter. It was a pile of shit. Also, I hated all the girls in the game besides Yuki and Haru, but Yuki has no route.

Also, fuck that epilogue, so filled with ups and downs in the space of about 20 minutes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711613

But Yuki did have an entire chapter devoted to her. I think she got like the second most screen time among all the girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711613
>>6711645
I haven't played Shiratori's route yet, but I was plenty of satisfied with Yuki's role in the game. I definitely love her the most after Haru.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711586
Not the person you're quoting, but I think I know what he's talking about.

Why doesn't Maou carry out his plans in other routes? Why isn't Kyousuke's sleepwalking ever explained? Most other plot holes that were pointed out could be explained by (pretty ridiculous) coincidences, but those can't. Pic related, it's Kyousuke sleepwalking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711196
Kind of agree.
The epilogue was S++. Start of chapter 5 was great as well but 2 3 4 was quite terrible and plotholes everywhere.

They tried too hard to make Kyousuke to look like Maou. How can Haru still suspect him if she seen and talk to him during the bombing considering that his brother is about 10years older? It is possible that akabeisoft started with kyousuke being maou and just use his brother later as a copout.

At the end of the day, this game is just TAG the VN.
Even with the flaws, I play it just for Usami. Probably one of the most unique heroine that we have in a long time.

[Sudo !Tohsaka8ks No.]

>>6711664
The game mentions that he has some sort of amnesia which I forget the technical term for.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

Is there rape in this? What fetishes are included?

I see it already has that wavy mouth~ what is that called?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711613
>>6711664
Also, if you missed earlier discussions about the plot holes, the people who've discussed this earlier came to the conclusion that Maou calls Kanon his sister because he was so immersed in his role pretending to be Kyousuke. Maou lives in Kyousuke's attic and drops down whenever Kyousuke looks away (yeah, I know, apartments don't have attics, but this explains how Maou heard Kanon showering while she was in Kyousuke's apartment). There were other explanations, but these covered the most obvious plot holes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711697
>Is there rape in this?
No.
>What fetishes are included?
Consensual sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711499
I don't believe she was named.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711681
I don't think amnesia can make someone leave their room after they fall asleep, no matter how far they stretch the definition of "amnesia."

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like a stupid person for thinking Kyousuke was Maou right until the grand reveal. Am I stupid, or did everyone not realize this and have their brains imploded at that CG? There were a few hints at it, weren't there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711706
It doesn't have to be Kanon he heard, he just had another woman using his shower coincidentally at the exact same time.

Not like that's any more unbelievable than any of the other bullshit coincidences

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711719
A pretty minor plothole in my eyes regardless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711713
She was not, yes. The game left it unsaid for the player to fill in the (obvious) answer there for themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711718

There were more than a few. It was questionable from the very beginning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711736
Obvious? I couldn't even begin to guess myself.
Some woman related to Kyousuke? His dead imouto? Maybe his mother?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711706
That wasnt the only hard to explain part.

Shiratori and Yuki both saw Kyousuke walking around when we the readers both know that it was Maou. They arent twins and one of them is 10years older so they probably dont look alike. Too much coincidence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711736

What was the obvious ... oh ... duh, it just hit me. I feel stupid for not figuring that one out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711718

Kind of difficult to browse /jp/ this week and not see that spoiler at least somewhere on page 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711664
I'm pretty sure they did explain the sleepwalking.

Kyousuke has a second personality that he gets rid of after falling in love. The second personality doesn't do anything after he leaves the room.

[Anonymous No.]

Can it be this way? In all the paths the reveal didn't happen Kyousuke was Maou

I don't see why all the paths have to be consistent. The plot already changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711748

>when we the readers both know that it was Maou

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was Kyouske. Yuki and already seen Mao's face so there's no way she could mistake the two. Also, for the Kanon bathroom incident, I'm pretty sure it was just switching back between Mao and Kyouske.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711751
I haven't been browsing /jp/ that much, been too busy reading G-Senjou all the time. Lucky me.
>>6711750
Please tell me, I'm confused.
>>6711748
That could be passed off as being due to the dark though or something stupid. I'm pretty sure Shiratori saw Maou when he was in a car or something anyways, so even darker, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711747
Definitely his dead imouto, Kiyomi. They started making a big deal about Kiyomi at the start of chapter 5 as a theme, and they even established a connection between Haru and Kiyomi. She pretended to ACT as Kiyomi at Kyouhei's funeral, and her apologizing for Kiyomi's death at the beginning of chapter 5 is what caused Kyousuke to temporarily forgive her. Anyone with a sense of poetic endings should have found that obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

sage

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711757
I have a similar theory.
In the other paths, Haru manages to catch Maou since Kyousuke didn't get in her way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711764

see >>6711766

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711748
It was Kyousuke's second personality that had dreams of revenge. The second personality just never did anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711772
Don't worry, I read it after I posted. Yeah, can't believe I didn't see that one. That ending was so nice though, I thought that Haru had pretty much been stolen from Kyousuke, and I started to rage like fuck, then I felt so fucking happy when Kyousuke's daughter suddenly appeared. What a lovely ending.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711764
Maou was walking down the street, panicked when Shiratori recognized him as Azai, then told her "You've got the wrong person," and walked away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711785
Oh, my bad, I have no fucking idea where I got the whole car thing from. Regardless though, it can still be wrote off as dark, as shitty an excuse as it may be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711766
>>6711778
I thought the daughter was named after the man who sacrificed his life to save Kyousuke, Gonzou. Now that I've thought about it, though, Kiyomi seems to fit better.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, Yuki never mistook Maou as Kyousuke. She knew it was Maou all along. That was actually one of the more clever scenes, in that at that point in the game, the player has no idea that Maou and Yuki are acquainted and meet on a presumably frequent basis. So when Yuki stops and sees Maou on the street, they have a normal conversation, but the player is obviously going to assume that she's talking to Kyousuke since they would have no idea of their background

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711794
Not that I know SHIT about Japanese names, but seeing as Azai Gonzou is the only Gonzou is the only Gonzou I've ever heard of, I now have the picture of a burly man associated with Gonzou. Not a good little girls name, eh? But I can get where you're coming from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711801
Oh wow, I never thought of that part that way. I was thinking it would be pretty hard to write off her not realizing it wasn't Kyousuke due to the dark when they have a fucking conversation. I mean sure it works in Shiratori's case because he mostly tries to ignore her and just says a single sentence to her, but when it's an entire conversation, it seems hard to understand. Cool explanation, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

is this in english?

[Anonymous No.]

This scene can be easily explained by saying there's a person in the shower near Mao also. Kanon's voice is not in this scene so it's pretty simple.

[Anonymous No.]

So, uhh, does anyone have a better explanation for the sleepwalking?

I don't like the explanation that Kyousuke has a second personality that does nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711826
Of course. Can't you understand it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711839

It's Yuki, quite obvious when you put the pieces together

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711839
Spoiler tags, man, spoiler tags.
It works, okay, but all the theories rely too much on coincidences. It's not something as clever as the plot twists on, say, Sharin, Ever17 or, hell, even Symphonic Rain. In those games, you can replay it and notice all the subtle hints and the way they never contradict the twist. Not so with this one, it throws you on a red herring and paints the herring too much. That kinda ruined it IMO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711851
Eh, why would Yuki be showering at his place unless they were going to be doing the deed? But they obviously have never slept together since Yuki is a virgin so I doubt that

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711801
I actually really like that explanation, but, not to be nitpicky, why does Maou want to dispose of Yuki when he later reveals that he recognized Yuki for her talent and wanted to use her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711860
Also, it would be too suspicious for her to get close to him at such critical times. Just complementing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711860
>Yuki
>A virgin
Hahaha.

[Anonymous No.]

Not a satisfactory explanation, but it seemed to me that Kyousuke started thinking that he was Maou after a certain point. This likely can hand wave away a few areas where the plot doesn't match up due to the fact that during his "amnesic" episodes you could have truly thought himself Maou and behaved in a way that he believed Maou would.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711867
Maybe it's about the hell on earth plan. She noticed that he was making a personal children army and that his father was going to fight him and all that, so it could be dangerous to him. Or maybe he was planning to use her to run away from her father and then kill her to shut her up. There are many possibilities. He just viewed her as a valuable chess piece, a queen of sorts, when he saw her potential. He was going to resign from the terrorist life anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711873
It's canon, retard. Shiratori's bad end.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm just now heading into Chapter 4... How is Mizuha's arc? I found Kanon's to be much more bearable than Tsubaki's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711874
Could be true.
He believed that he was acting as Maou when he didn't remember something, so he might as well help his other personality while conscious. Perfectly believable if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711867
Mmmm, maybe He had already given up on her by that point. He didn't know that Usami and Yuki were acquaintances at first. He didn't find that out until Yuki met up with Haru in Tomanbetsu city so he might have given up on trying to win her over upon discovering that.

>>6711873
I didn't just make that up, it's actually stated and proven within the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711885
IMO it's the best side arc of the game, hands down. At least on par with Kanon's if you are neutral to either characters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711874
>>6711843
Even if Kyousuke started believing he actually was Maou, I don't think he can consciously decide to sleepwalk.

The better explanation is that Kyousuke actually did have a second personality that was Maou the entire time. He tricked Kyouhei into thinking that he was the mastermind behind all the plans, but Kyousuke was the one controlling Kyouhei.

[Anonymous No.]

Haru was the only interesting girl to me so I haven't gone for any other girl's arc yet. Does the plot change in each route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711895
Bueno. I liked Kanon, mainly because she sounds like Arche from Tales of Phantasia.

Wiki has it listed that she was actually Mint from the Famicom version but that just doesnt seem right, she sounds too much like Arche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711860
Yuki mentions once that she spent a night in a hotel room with Maou.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, someone fill me in. What does Kyouske's sleepwalking have to do with anything? If he sleepwalks, he sleepwalks. How is it a plot hole?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711920
It's not a plot hole, it's just contrived.

[Anonymous No.]

>Moshi, moshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711920
It's not a plot hole. It's an amazing coincidence that Kyousuke sleepwalks whenever Maou goes out.
It's also kind of bad how Kyousuke's sleepwalking is never mentioned again after the reveal.

[Anonymous No.]

It doesn't necessarily even have to be sleep walking. The text there is written in an unsure way, like "I think I fell asleep in an instant" and goes on to describe how sudden and fucking strong the lapse in his consciousness was. I mean, obviously the point there is to describe how... peculiar the way he 'fell asleep' was. That could just be him going into a fugue state from his psychogenic amnesia and not actually falling asleep. Note that there are a few instances where he feels tired despite that he thinks he went to bed immediately. It could just be his fugue state kicking in a couple times before he goes to bed and he mistakes that as falling asleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711856

Well, to be fair the twist in this was really like those other games. The other games were trying to hide something while this one was trying to was trying to prove something. Kind of like a reverse-twist. I think it still did a great job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711911
Looking back on it, Yuki was introduced literally minutes after that scene too. Hmmm... I guess you're on to something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711952
Blacking out and going out around town has the same effect as sleepwalking. It's still an amazing coincidence. It's still never mentioned again after the reveal.

I'm sorry. I understand that I'm nitpicking at details. I'm desperate to justify my dislike for this plot. It's not that I don't like the work. I thought it was a fun read and I liked the ending. I just can't come to terms with the plot.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't usually like gangster or crime genres, can i still enjoy this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712020

It's a detective game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712020
It's more of a mind game/battle of wits, like, say, Death Note or Code Geass (Maou actually has the same VA as Lelouch).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712025
>>6712023
Ah, ok, i saw crime & yakuza tags on vndb and thought maybe it was some godfather shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711998

>plot

Are you sure you're using the right word here? I personally thought the plot itself was amazing. The only thing wrong was that they tried to force the fact that Kyouske was Mao a little too much to force a twist. And even then it's only if you're being really picky.

[Anonymous No.]

How much will being spoiled affect my enjoyment of this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712483

Depends on what you've been spoiled by, but probably not very much.

[Anonymous No.]

>Browse the thread.
>See it is mostly spoilers.
>mfw

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712483
I had the major twist ruined for me and I still found the whole thing entertaining as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought the game was well done, the only parts that kind of bothered me was when there were major plot changes during different routes. For example, when going for Mizuha's route when you call the police during the time when Mizuha was kidnapped, it was drastically different from when you waited for Yuki. Yuki's character seemed like it took a huge flip when going from one route to another.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712450
I mean "sequence of events" when I say plot.
I thought character dynamics were great. It was pretty funny at times. But whenever something really "happened," it felt horribly contrived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712564

In terms of the main storyline? Besides the whole kyouske/mao thing I didn't really see anything that could be seriously labeled "contrived". There may have been a few coincidences but nothing major. Care to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712606
You may say "Besides the whole Kyousuke/Maou thing," but that's exactly the thing I can't put aside.
They spend half of every chapter for the first four chapters setting up this reveal, but after the reveal, they explain away everything they set up with coincidences. Kanon in the shower? Coincidence. Walking around at night whenever Maou walks around town? Coincidence. Shiratori calling out to Maou at night? Not even a coincidence. She mistakes a man for the boy she loved for two years, who's a full ten years younger.
Too much focus was spent on too many coincidences.

[Anonymous No.]

It's like in Heavy Rain when Ethan has those black outs and wakes up to find origami in his hands and at the street where the origami killer grew up a child, but then it's like, nope that was just weird shit happening by some strange coicidence, I don't know lolol

But people really praise that game's story too so whatever I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712699

The Kyouske/Mao thing was just for shock value anyway. It didn't really affect the actual storyline which was done beautifully. But if that stops you from enjoying it, all I can really say is that it's your loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712699
The first makes perfect sense with Yuki. The second is contrived, I'll give you. The third is quite possible, given that she likely didn't get a good look at his face - the two of them are obviously similar in build and looks. Honestly, you're grasping for straws over something you just don't seem to like. The Kyousuke/Maou thing is a considerably better twist than the ones that appeared in Sharin no Kuni, especially as it's pretty clear that Kyousuke wasn't Maou. There'd be plot holes everywhere if he was.

[Anonymous No.]

>The Kyousuke/Maou thing is a considerably better twist than the ones that appeared in Sharin no Kuni+

Yeah... twists with no contradictions, makes logical sense, and actually USES the backdrop of the story to make it work is worse than one that's full of plotholes and contradictions and requires huge leaps in suspension of disbelief to accept.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm >>6712699 and >>6711998 , not >>6712810 , but I'd like to clarify that I've made it known that I was taking out unimportant plot holes to justify my dislike of the plot the entire time. You've just repeated what I've said earlier.

Also, it's a coincidence that a woman is in the shower in the same room as Maou at the same time Kyousuke has Kanon in the shower. It doesn't matter who it is in the shower, it's still a coincidence.
The second point isn't just a straw. All those talks with Dr. Akimoto, all those sleepwalking episodes, all those headaches built up to nothing. This is a cliff. I'm not grasping at it; I can't avoid it even if I wanted to.
The third point is debatable. I would think that Shiratori would be able to tell that difference, given that she has been in love with Kyousuke for two years and there's a ten-year difference between Kyousuke's and Kyouhei's ages, but I guess it's possible to think differently.

I wouldn't have defended myself if you praised other parts of the story. But this twist was bad. It was, as >>6712732 put it, done only for shock value. Beautiful things have been done with Tsubaki, Kanon, and Shiratori. But this twist did nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6712718
Now that you mention it, it is very similar how they both conveniently forgot that plot point by the end. Most people probably aren't too bothered by such a thing, but personally I despise it. For all the shit it gets, I do like the fact that Umineko has been doing great at keeping track of all plot points and resolving most of them relatively sensibly, even if I don't necessarily like them (please don't make me eat my words for Episode Eight, Ryukishi).

[Anonymous No.]

I was just looking back at this scene where he meets Yuki. Kyousuke says he falls asleep, but then opens the door to go outside. Afterward, he is clearly outside of his apartment and thinking about Mizuha and what's going on with her family. On his walk he runs into Yuki and they chat. Now, notice that when Kyousuke talks there's no voice actor, but when Mao does there is. In this scene there isn't one leading me to believe this is definitely Kyousuke, not Mao. When he talks about revenge, he's talking about his CD and when he says the last line about "disposing them" I'm he means he'll have to get them off his back after he takes his revenge since he had already challenged Usami. Notice the very next scene is Haru confronting him for what was written on the blackboard. Everything fits together perfectly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6713153
Maou isn't always voiced.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6713191

When he speaks, I'm pretty sure he is. But on top of that, this scene takes place right outside of Kyousuke's apartment as soon as he leaves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6713191

When he speaks, I'm pretty sure he is. But on top of that, this scene takes place right outside of Kyousuke's apartment as soon as he leaves. Also, there's no "coincidences" in this theory. It's just interpretation of what he said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6713216
I believe there's a couple of scenes where he speaks with the guy from the Sannou Corp that he isn't in Chapter 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6713153
It's labeled as Maou in the script, it's definitely Maou.

[Anonymous No.]

And yes, there's quite a few instances of Maou being voiced. I dare say there's actually more instances of an unvoiced Maou than there are of a voiced one.

[Anonymous No.]

And yes, there's quite a few instances of Maou being unvoiced. I dare say there's actually more instances of an unvoiced Maou than there are of a voiced one.

[Anonymous No.]

It was decent but the twist was obvious. They should have added another layer and made it so that Kyosuke really is Maou and he's manipulating his brother too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6714016
I predicted around Chapters 3 and 4 that there were two Maou. Kyousuke's second personality and Kyouhei. They worked together for the most part, but Kyouhei did most of the murder-crime stuff. Haru, Gonzou, and the Maou family start this huge battle royale of wits. Kyousuke turns against Kyouhei and presents him to the police. Haru takes Kyousuke's mom hostage. Gonzou ignores the hostage and Haru kills Kyousuke's mom. Kyousuke then kills Gonzou. Kyouhei is placed in the same cell as his dad. Kyousuke's second personality is then revealed to be the killer of Haru's mom. The second personality is conquered by the power of love. Haru struggles between her love and her desire for revenge. Haru kills Kyousuke if you don't pass the affection point check. Haru and Kyousuke live happily ever after if you do.

I couldn't sleep, but I needed to take a break. I also had an overactive imagination. I stayed awake for about an hour on my bed trying to predict what would happen. I also didn't use any walkthroughs, so I was sure that Haru would have a bad end, so I tried to work my way around possible bad ends. I also knew that revenge had a huge role in Haru's character and I thought she would solve it in her route. I was wrong. Unrealistic expectations of badassery. Of course I'd be disappointed.

[Anonymous No.]

the story was meh and the Haru epilogue seemed too much like a forced after thought

[Anonymous No.]

i did everything today except tsubaki's route (i did that yesterday)
it was 12 fucking am when shit went down in haru's route and I couldnt stop reading
i cried manly man tears at the end too
i had to stop reading for like 5 minutes, no vn has ever done that to me

[Anonymous No.]

Oh god, that epilogue.
I didn't like Kyousuke through most of the VN start due to the fact we were being told how clever he was but his actions never really backed it up (he was definitely made to play the Watson too many times for Haru and Yuki), but that epilogue just sent him straight up to hero status ;_;.

[Anonymous No.]

I think you can semi-justify all the contrived coincidences by accepting that the omniscient narrator had a subtle personality of its own that enjoyed fucking with us.
Even outside of the whole Maou thing, we can see examples of it doing this, like when it had us thinking Maou was still in the skating arena when he was actually headed to Gonzou's.

Hence you could say things like two people didn't have to be showering at the same time, the narrator just conveniently chose to switch from the moment Kanon's showering to another scene with Maou, which didn't necessarily have to be happening at the same moment.

If you want to view this in a positive light, you could say it adds another layer of subterfuge to the game when you even have to be slightly wary of the narrator... but that might be reaching a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6714373
That scene aside from the stairs scene is probably the only scene I really really liked Kyousuke in.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump, I just finished this. I have to say, the epilogue alone makes this one worth reading though I did all the other routes.

IMO, Haru>Tsubaki (a bit too long)>Mizuha>Kanon endings.

Obligatory, FANDISK WHERE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715834

Just the fact that Haru is in it makes it worth reading if you ask me.

>>6715459

I can agree. He didn't really do much else through out the whole game. Although these scenes were pretty damn hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

Mizuha route:
This scene and the whole early parts of the courting were more hilarious than any of Eiichi's antics. It was adorable, as well.

More games need to have moe girls for the comic relief character role.

(The rest of her route after the timeskip was kind of meh)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715903
Yeah, I like how Haru isn't your standard heroine.

I was kind of expecting NTR at the end of the epilogue but thank god it isn't. Else I would've seen the lot of /jp/ raging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715945
I don't mind NTR when the guy doing it is a better character than the one being NTR'ed. They fucking deserve it, even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715945

I didn't think that would happen at all. I was half hoping he would be found not guilty because technically his brother was already dead. But right after the verdict they showed him getting out after just 8 years. You could see it coming from a mile away that they would reunite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715972
Kyousuke getting NTR'd would've been a huge kick in the face after all the shit he had been through in that epilogue, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6715972

Kyousuke risked his life to save her more times than I can count on one hand. If he didn't deserve a happy ending no one does.

pic related

[Anonymous No.]

I think that I'd have preferred it if Kyosuke actually was Maou all along. Did anyone else also think that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716024
I was a bit relieved he wasn't. Couldn't see a happy ending for the two of them any other way and I'm a huge sucker for happy endings. The only thing that bothered me about the big reveal is they didn't take any time to cover the glaring plot holes that opened as a result. I eventually just ignored them and took it as is though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716024

The pieces really didn't seem to fit together from the very beginning. I thought it was an evil twin for a while before they revealed it was his brother.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716024
I must honestly say that before the big reveal I only had the feeling that something was off in Kyouske being Maou. Especially the fact that he was dense compared to Maou.

I must say that I always wanted end where Kyouske would take over Gonzou's position as yakuza boss.

[Anonymous No.]

I found myself completely believing the whole Kyousuke is Maou thing.

A lot of people seem to complain that the fact was forced on us so often that there was no way it could have been true, but in my view, I thought the game pretty much told us straight-up with the Mizuha 'recognising' Maou scene followed by the CG of his face, and every other scene 'forcing' it was just a normal scene using the already-established fact. I really should have been more suspicious of 'dead brother with no corpse', though.

That aside, I was also caught completely off-guard with the other two twists;
Tokita being on Maou's side, and Miki-chan being a guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716154

It wasn't that they were trying to force it, something just didn't add up. My suspicions were pretty much confirmed when it was revealed that Tokita had seen Mao's face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716154
After my first play I watched Kyousuke/Maou CGs once more, and noticed that Kiyohei has his fringe directed to the right, while Kyousuke to the left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716197
Really? I must have missed that explicitly being said.

>>6716209
I noticed that too, dismissed it as just artistic license or an intentional change to show multiple personalities.

That aside, I think it would actually be something interesting for a different story if the villian was an alternate personality of one of the detectives, and everyone knew it - problem is they can't keep them locked up because maybe the detective is a vip needed at certain places, or some other plot reason. It would lead to some interesting character dynamics.

[Anonymous No.]

So, which is /jp/'s favorite heroine in the game besides Haru?
For me, Kanon > Haru > Tsubaki > Mizuha.
Kanon was always my favorite, Haru is of course a unique and entertaining heroine, Tsubaki is sweet but thats all there is to her and she turned into a bitch for some time in Chapter 2, and Mizuha is just a same old
boring moe kuudere that I've seen enough of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716315

Haru > Yuki > Kanon > Tsubaki > Mizuha

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716315
Haru > Kanon >>> Mizuha = Tsubaki
Didn't really care much about Tsubaki and Mizuha. I liked their characters, but not enough to pursue their routes,

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716315
Kanon>Yuki>Haru>Mizuha>>>Tsubaki

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716315
Kanon > Shiratori > Tsubaki > Haru

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716333
I'm in agreement with this view as well. Kanon just because she sounds like Arche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716315

I'd say Haru>Mizuha>Tsubaki>Kanon

Not much needs to be said about Haru, though admittedly I was a bit weirded out by her introductory scene.
Kanon was the one that was pretty same-old to me, except in those moments involving figure-skating where she showed her Azai blood.
Even though she ranked last, I definitely didn't dislike her (Though I did rage when she broke that CD).
Mizuha did have a pretty typical personality, but I guess I'm biased towards types like her, and she gets imouto of the year award.
Tsubaki is an interesting one; at first I didn't care much for her, but I thought her corruption sequence was fascinatingly dark and despite everything I wanted to see more of that - I thought the coming-to-her-senses scene seemed a bit too sudden and idealistic to be believable.

[Anonymous No.]

Kanon > Yuki > Haru > Tsubaki > Mizuha
Speaking of which, why the fuck didn't Yuki get her own route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716399
Her route was Mizuha's route+bad end

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716406
Well, I saw that before I even did Mizuha's good end but it didn't feel like much of a route for her. Kind of a copout if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716413
I was just kidding. It is a shame she didn't get her own route though.

[Anonymous No.]

For me it would be
Haru>Kanon=Yuki>Mizuha (ch. 4)>>>>shit>Mizuha (her own route)>Tsubaki
Haru was awesome and the very definition of LOYALTY.
Kanon had my favourite side route, she was also fun and had a ponytail to boot.
Yuki was really interesting.
The separation beween MIzuhas is that I liked her during teh bwhole game except during her route, chapter 4>her own route, for me at least.
Tsubaki was boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716399
Agree with you man. Yuki route would've been much better over Mizuha route.
Kanon was always my favorite because of her VA, her appearance, personality, and I found her chapter to be enjoyable throughout the whole way, it made me tear up towards the end. She was just an enjoyable character overall. Finished her's today, will get around to doing Haru's sometime, but I'm forcing myself through the Tsubaki chapter. Like I said, I think she's bland and also just a bit too idealistic, and the whole moving out thing isn't too exciting to me.
I'm debating on whether doing Mizuha's route. I can't stand kuuderes, but if there's plenty of Yuki in it, I might do it.
Nvm doing list again.
Kanon >>> Haru > Yuki >>> Tsubaki >> Mizuha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716447
Yeah Kanon's is my favorite of the side stories too.

....Did anyone else picture themselves in Kanon's shoes skating her heart out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716447
I'm finishing Mizuha's route as we speak, and must say that you shouldn't be disappointed because she becomes second Yuki.

Also, I HNNGGG'd when that wedding dress

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716458
Well, I think her chapter really let the reader understand her emotions and what she was going through, and how she felt the whole time. The last skating performance, the incident with her mother, unlike with Tsubaki, I found myself understanding Kanon through and through. That's another thing I really loved about her route. During the skating performance, the emotions she was going through, damn, I couldn't help my eyes getting a bit watery.
With Tsubaki, I understood she was going through a lot of stress, but damn, she really turned out to be a bitch for me, especially to her little brother, who just got back and all.

[Anonymous No.]

hey guys i didnt play the game but i want to ask something.
in Haru good ending Kyouske and Haru living happily ? in other thread someone told that the ending was dark but in a positive note,so in the end they are a happy couple or kind of one of them dying one of them happy after theme?

dont need detail,just ''yes they are happy couple'' or ''x is dying'' enough.Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716458
No, because I'm so bad at skating that the last time I went I ended up fucking my ankles up so bad, the socks I was wearing were ruined from how much blood got on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716501
Happy couple.
Probably.
We don't get to see much of how their relationship unfolds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716501
In the end yes they are happy couple

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716501
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716501
It doesn't work that way.

Although, I had myself questioning why the law came down so hard on Kyousuke. If tings were a touch more convenient for him I doubt things would have gotten so dark. Dammit, I cried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716528
Well, just 8 eyars for an alleged 'revenge murder' is not that bad, death penalty would have been worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716501

Everything goes better than expected. See the pic in >>6711499

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716537
Well I can appreciate that much But considering who it was that he killed, I think circumstances should've been a taken into account. Also, he did have proof that his mind wasn't the healthiest of things, I'm sure that didn't improve after the whole "painting of hell" thing. Ultimately, I just wanted a happier ending.

[Anonymous No.]

So, soundtrack.

Which were your favourite songs?
'Complications' become an instant favourite the moment I heard it.
'The Icy Road Forward', combined with its title, makes me think of the epilogue every time ;_;
'Azai Gonzou' is a beastly theme.
'Remnants of Truth' and 'The Devil' are pretty classy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716516
>>6716521
>>6716528
>>6716537
>>6716554

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716575
Complications, Moment of Truth, Grand Finale, Farewell, The Woman I Love, ANSWER, any of the other songs derived from ANSWER.

[Anonymous No.]

Moment of Truth, Farewell, The Icy Road Forward.
I didn't like Bad Joke at the beginning but after I laughed a few times it became one of my favorites too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716575
'Azai Gonzou', 'Complications', 'Suspicion', 'Unending Hell' and 'True Hell on Earth'

Oh, and 'Have You Heard Good News?'

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716575
Hated the soundtrack to be honest. For a VN which supposedly respects classical music, these arrangements of said pieces pretty much just shits on them. I can't believe they are so lazy at times just to overlay an almost unrelated piece onto the original and call that music.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6716808
Well, I was going to try and defend the OST, but I'm not that much of a music expert.
Though I wouldn't call the tracks arrangements so much as homages.
It's just a matter of tastes and expectations, I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

This VN hs great possibilities of threesomes, and yet there wasn't a single one, for shame. Just imagine: Yuki and Haru or Mizuha. Kanon and Seto. Tsubaki and Hiroaki

[Anonymous No.]

This pisses me off. Why didn't Haru get a wedding scene? I mean, I know they got married afterward but I still wanted to see her in a dress!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6717053
Kanon needed one, not Mizuha.
Fffff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6717053
Because that would've ruined the scene.

[Anonymous No.]

I reported this thread for being so shitty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6711541
What a stupid, ridiculous game. What kind of retarded shit is that? A game that has comedy in the sex scenes.. you can't take a game seriously like this. Is this fan translated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6717172
>>6717201

obvious samefag being butthurt

[Anonymous No.]

How do I get Haru's 2nd H scene? I have everything except that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6718207
If you've got the first one it should just be a matter of carrying on

[Anonymous No.]

>>6718246
Yeah. But I finished all the routes (including bad ends) and I still don't have it.

[Sudo !Tohsaka8ks No.]

>>6718273
That shouldn't be possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6718292
Well I tell you it is. Maybe it's because I picked all bad choices for Haru on my playthrough.

[Anonymous No.]

Haru's 2nd h-scene requires 2 love points or more with her. Meaning you fucked up on choices earlier in the game. I think there's only 3 to increase your Haru points so there's not much opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, what the fuck man. Haru's route yesterday left me with a good feeling. Why the hell did I go back to do this shit? Fuck this is depressing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6718310
DId I miss any other scenes or just the H?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6718310
3 choices*

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

I want a VN where every time a choice comes up, there's a comedy hurr option.

[Anonymous No.]

Best father ever ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

G-Sen was great, but I get the feeling that it wasn't as quotable as Sharin was. Gonzou had a few badass quotes, and Haru had one or two, but other than that, there weren't a lot of snappy phrases. Not that this automatically makes G-Sen worse than Sharin or anything; it's just something I noticed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6719354
Honestly, most of those "catchphrases" in Sharin was Moogy trying to be "creative" with the editing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6719354
Eiichi had the best lines out of anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6719354
I dont know about you but I am pretty sure G-sen > Sharin in the dialogue department.
Haru was hilarious, even the ero scenes are bearable compare to sharin.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope that I wasn't the only person that was expecting a life/extremely long prison sentence during the entire epilogue- I mean, it would have fit in so incredibly perfectly with the huge issues regarding the death penalty itself (at least, in my eyes.)

Also, I sure as fuck hope that I wasn't the only person that noticed that this was almost a direct contrast with the law system of Sharin- Just as how Ririko/any sharin heroine would have been saved by the broadness/lightness of Criminal Law, Kyousuke would have been spared by the individualization of an obligation, as I can't imagine any SHCI seeing Kyousuke's situation worthy of a harsh obligation. I wonder if this writer simply has a fascination on the psychology behind law, and if we can be expecting any other law based VN in the near future from AR2.

To further prove my point, why else would the whole VN focus on the injustices and fear of the law? Kyousuke was only worried that Haru was going to be punished because of how "impersonal" the law was.

Overall though, I was incredibly satisfied. Despite the plot holes (such as Where the FUCK would Kyousuke disappear to in critical times? As well as all the other coincidences listed in the thread ) I think the story was woven quite nicely. While the twists were not executed as flawlessly as Sharin's (disregarding that fucking ending), G-Senjou impacted me emotionally much more, and it had a MUCH more powerful resolution, even with some bittersweetness, unlike Sharin's bullshit happily every after go the fuck home end.

Objectively, I'd say G-Senjou was probably around a 7/10. Above average, but not perfect. With emotions counted in, though, I would give it a 9 or a 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720070
I'm inclined to agree, while the story itself wasn't perfect, I feel it accomplished in pulling at my emotions, and did so rather well. For that reason I look more favorably at G Senjou then I otherwise would.

I'll also admit, I'd love to see these characters presented in a lighter story. Not a slice of life or anything, but something with smaller stakes. Maybe it's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720070
G-sen has the superior end but chapter 2-4 was weak as hell. Without the epilogue, it is probably a 5/10 game at most. I give the epilogue 11/10.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the epilogue was the saving part too but 5/10 without the epilogue is probably a bit harsh. I think I'd give it a 6.5 or so. Boosted up to an overall 8/10 because the ending got me right where it counts. I did like the epilogue more than anything in Sharin but Sharin overall was the more powerful experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720070
>>6720185
>>6720232
I believe you guys are experiencing the beauty of "character development".

The characters made the emotions, made your attachment, and really made this novel stand out above others. No matter how much I wanted to fucking cut Tsubaki's head off with her goddamn diary and beat Mizuha to death with it.

I especially liked that you could agree with Kyousuke whenever he said Haru was batshit insane. I guess that's what made her so lovable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720308
> I guess that's what made her so lovable.
Not really. It was just a weak attempt to moderate her Mary Sue-ness.

[Anonymous No.]

The epilogue is truly what sealed the deal, yes.

That insert song. That fucking insert song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720403
Just finished the epilogue, its 2 a.m here, I need to get up at 6:30, and I'm lying here trying to sleep but that song is playing too loud in my head for me to fall unconscious.

God.Fucking.Dammit.
I wonder how I'm gonna follow this story up though. I need to start a new vn to calm my mind, but I can't think of what I should read next. Maybe Swan Song, or perhaps I'll try to finally trudge through Extra.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720468
Joining the ranks of finishing up the epilogue. I teared up like a little bitch.

This really was great. I'm not sure if I like this or Sharin better. They both share the pattern of being incredibly boring for 30% of it, and extremely awesome at the end.

[Anonymous No.]

Could someone post the haru h scene? alternatively how long does it take to get there in the game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720594
15minutes if you ctrl pass everything.
Just make sure you ignore the other girls when the choice pop up for sexing them up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720628
It is like 10 minutes into chapter 5. The first scene anyway. The second scene follows not long after.

[Anonymous No.]

God, this hostage crap in chapter 4 is dragging so much. I feel bad for the yakuza who are hanging around during all of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720737
Hang in there. You just need to get to chapter 5 and it's smooth sailing.

[Anonymous No.]

>Ichijinsha released a manga anthology titled G Senjō no Maō Comic Anthology on September 25, 2008 under their DNA Media Comics imprint.

Does anyone have information on this? I've tried Googling a few terms but I've come up empty handed. Mangaupdates does have an entry titled G-Senjou no Maou but it's pretty much empty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720809
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2vjbl9z

[Anonymous No.]

I can't listen to the title BGM without singing along nice boat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720831
Well now I feel like an idiot. Forgot to check places that MIGHT ACTUALLY SELL IT.

Alright, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6721722
Might want to try checking Kinokuniya's site as well if you don't want to get raped on shipping.

[Anonymous No.]

when do i get my sex into eiichi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6720831
Sorry, I can't read the moonrunes, but what is this manga actually supposed to be about/how is it related? Side story of some sort?

Also, I'm feeling a fandisk that details Kyouhei's past, it seems like they could do something with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724812
No, I really don't think they need to bother going into Kyousuke's past anymore. We know his situation.

They did however release a drama CD detailing events after the main story. I think it revolves around Haru does while Kyousuke is in the slammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724797
I was wondering that too. I'm not playing this shit without the obligatory shota.

[Anonymous No.]

I hate faceless protagonists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724837
But Kyousuke gets a face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724855
In 1 CG.
And then he loses it again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724871
Yeah I was really hoping they're let him keep his face after that scene..... I was betrayed.

[Anonymous No.]

Been slowly plodding through this, just finishing the Tsubaki "Bad End" - I've actually quite enjoyed that gradual corruption of character, and it was hardly as bad as an end I would've expected.

[Anonymous No.]

A Haru X Yuki lesbian scene would have been gold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6724837
[spoiler\Kyouske is Maou

[Anonymous No.]

In terms of Sharin vs. G-Senjou,

Main character: Kenichi >>>>>>>>>> Kyousuke

Heroines: Haru > *

Character design, development, interactions, depth: G-Senjou >>> Sharin

Twist: Sharin >>> G-Senjou

Comedy: G-Senjou > Sharin

Climax and resolution: G-Senjou > Sharin

Plot: G-Senjou = Sharin

[Anonymous No.]

>>6726578
I found Sharin to be too surreal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6726744
Wanna go out with me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6726744
>>6726765
What kind of retarded stupid shit is this? Is this gaydom thread or something? What the fuck is wrong with the faggots in this thread? If you want to rate this garbage so much over and over again do it somewhere else. Take this faggotry of over 9000 somewhere else will you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6726821
Your on /jp/. Everyone is a faggot here, including you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6726955
For fucks sake. Now you go and insult all of /jp/. Nice job there could you please be any more ridiculous?

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking "Close Your Eyes" won't get out of my head. I just hope that Haru's career wasn't ruined by Kyousuke after he got out

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727609
Now, that's a depressing thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727609
They lived happily ever after in a land of rainbows, butterflies, and unicorns. I won't accept anything else ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727625
>>6727609
It is, but with the whole ordeal that happened with Kanon and the press, I would probably say that it was more than likely for Haru's career to be ruined just because she married Kyousuke as a ex-convict..

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727609
Not this again. This has already been said in the thread in almost the same way. What the fuck is wrong with you? The last time I saged this thread some idiot like you, or was it you? Anyway some IDIOT said something about some FUNNYCHARACTER in some FUNNYGAME.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727609
>>6727625
>>6727670
Why are you guys making me tear up again ;_;. Can't I just believe that they lived happily ever after with adorable Kiyomi?
I can't even think about what I could say to refute this possibility.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727757
I believe that's what happens as well. I mean, I'm sure he still has some connections that might be willing to help him out a hair for avenging Gonzou or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727757

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727609
I don't even see why Kyousuke wanted to take the fall. He made it sound like a premeditated murder, which probably got him years added to his sentence. Even if he would tell them the truth about Haru, what exactly would she be charged with? Holding an unloaded illegal/unlicensed firearm at someone? Even with Japan's strict laws on firearms, I don't think they would try to convict her for that, or that it would have made much of a difference. If Kyousuke was honest about everything, he would probably have gotten a much more reduced sentence (not that the current one was unreasonably large for the crime he commited) and could have spent more time with his gf and family. While I understand why he did it (he wanted 100% insurance that she won't be affected by him), but it's kind of pointless since she was already pregnant by him. In the end, I think he should have thought out the situation more instead of saying those heroic lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727786
I agree. Even in the worst case scenario, their relationship could be shoved under rugs with the help of a hopefully still existent Azai corporation. I mean, look at the influence that Gonzou had in the press- surely Kyousuke could simply find an alias or something to hide Haru's connection to a "murderer".

Also, why is it that the stories that make me the most emotional are the ones that have the characters themselves crying? That scene with Haru made me baww so bad. It's like Angel Beats- It wasn't particularly good, but when Otonashi broke down I couldn't help myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727860
Well, it's not like Kyousuke knew that Haru was pregnant. The detective pulling out that info probably backed him into a corner and really, he did pretty damn good coming up with what he did on the spot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727670
I wouldn't use Kanon as a basis for Haru's career. They try to show that being a figure skater is a really fragile existence, as you hit your peak really early, and especially with things like the olympics, there's always someone right behind you.
I would imagine that fi you're already an established classical musician, it won't hurt as much, especially since anyone who cared probably was able to dig up dirt on the daughter already.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonzou acts kind of inconsistant. In one route he dies so his adopted son can escape, and in another he is ready to kill him over a land dispute. I guess Gonzou really does treasure money over his own life.
Gonzou's priority list
Money > Adopted Son > Life

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727933
>inconsistant

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727933
Really? So what's so special about this game then? Some jerk acting like a jerk?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727860
>>6727888
I hope I wasn't the only person that called Haru's pregnancy right from when Kyousuke said "I released my seed into her." The same goes for Maou as Kyouhei, I suspected it when Kyousuke said "he died in another country" and was certain when he said that his body left no trace a while later. I was literally not surprised at all in either of those two twists, despite not being spoiled. Still loved the VN though.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel Kiyomi should have been in the presses if Haru really was such an overly famous internationally acclaimed musician, and thus Kyousuke should have heard about her in jail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727933
I think it was pretty obvious that he wanted to 'make him human', but he didn't want to make it easy for him like "You went against me, GJ Son." It may be only my feeling, but Gonzou wanted Kyousuke to surpass him, if only momentarily. That's why he wanted to thrash him with the house thing, because he would be able to stop before killing him, or do it if Kyousuke was truly incompetent. But with sniping, Gonzou wasn't in control over what happened. This was the only way to protect his son, while before he only needed to stop his people.

[Anonymous No.]

Haru uses an alias for her career so there shouldn't be much of a problem if they're careful. Also this >>6727982

[Anonymous No.]

>>6727933
Are you trying to give me more reasons to hate this thread and the faggot that made it?:
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/6711196#p6727933

[Anonymous No.]

>>6728020

What you so mad about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6728062
Let's just pretend that guy doesn't exist. It's hard to tell what he's even complaining about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6728015
>>6727891
>>6727865
So it looks like we can assume that it was a "happily ever after" for Haru, Kyousuke, and Kiyomi.

Now I can finally lay this piece to rest in my mind.